On Bob Costas’ sudden, 30-year-late pronouncement that “redskin” is a “slur”

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JeffG:

– Even after admitting that 1) most Native Americans weren’t bothered by the name of the DC football team in the slightest, and 2) that those who use the name now naturally don’t intend it as a slur –a fact made all the more clear in that it is, when coupled with “Washington”, a referent that attaches itself to the professional football team, not to the Trail of Tears or Wounded Knee.  If you missed his gloriously treacly lecture, you can watch it now:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/R7P_4y2NbnY[/youtube]

So in essence, in a brief, sanctimonious bit of politically correct airtime shoehorned unnecessarily and infuriatingly into a halftime program during Sunday Night Football, Bob Costas — who waited 30+ years into his sportscasting to career to realize how offended he was by such a “slur” (and yet, only several days after the man who sat in Reverend Wright’s church listening to diatribes against both Whitey and the Jews decided to chime in — coincidentally, no doubt!) — made a two-fold argument:  1) that he would be offended for the stupid Natives who were either too stupid or too confused to feel the outrage for themselves, requiring a pasty white champion to speak for them; and 2) that even though we know those who refer to the team, the Washington Redskins, don’t intend it as a slur — having not used it in reference to anything other than the football team, which is comprised of no Native Americans to my knowledge — they nevertheless could, and if they did, then it would be a slur, even though they don’t, so it really isn’t — except always potentially.  And we must guard against future thought crimes by demonizing current usages.  To preserve the dignity of those who have in significant numbers rejected the call for them to express unified ethnic outrage.

All of which is typical of the liberal imperialist mindset — which seems lost on them, so busy are they accusing America itself of being an imperialist or colonialist nation.

But that aside, TheRightScoop highlights and interesting article out of U Penn about the origins of the term “redskin.”  Which, it turns out, was a way Natives used to describe and label themselves:

I think that it is well established that redskin is taken by most people today to be disparaging. What is more interesting is whether it has always been so, as Harjo et al., as well as various others, claim. One interesting piece of evidence is the origin of the name Washington Redskins. In 1933, George Preston Marshall, the owner of the team, which was then located in Boston, renamed it the Boston Redskins in honor of the head coach, William “Lone Star” Dietz, an American Indian.³ When the team moved to Washington in 1937 it was renamed the Washington Redskins. George Marshall clearly did not consider the name disparaging.

– So.  There’s your intent, right there.  But to the politically correct rabble rousing identity politics industry, such things matter little.  Having declared the term derogatory, they then cite how the term is believed to be derogatory as proof that it is.  Which is the kind of thinking that works with leftist language thieves, but that significantly fails with intentionalists.

But what about the intent prior to the naming of the team to which the sign now attaches, and the signifier refers?  Surely there must be so horrific slur about which George Marshall was unaware — and so the post-structuralists and textualists were well within their rights to declare that “reasonable people” could refer back to prior usages, that, to borrow from Derrida, the signifier is haunted by the ghost of all its signifieds, an arcane way of saying that every possible meaning of a word that has had many is legitimately available at all times, despite context, intent, or anything of the sort.  (This is very similar to the argument Think Progress made concerning the late Tony Snow’s use of “tar baby”)?

And while I would argue that, even were that the case, the usage intended by Marshall, coupled with the contemporary referent as a professional DC football team, not a barbarian scalper with his eyes on annihilation of the white man (as seen from the racist perspective often attributed to the white men who don’t follow the President’s — or Costas’s — ostentatious and opportunistic grasp at easy grace), make distant, prior iterations of the term insufficient to trouble contemporary usage, the beauty of all this preposterous posturing is that I don’t have to.  And that’s because it turns out the term is merely the English translation of a term of self identity used by Natives themselves.

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Why doesn’t Bob just go away quietly. Bob is a legend in his own mind. We have tolerated him long enough. Even before the gun speech he lost me.

Bob Costas can’t even imagine the anger of those innocent persons of slave descent that are slandered and shamed by the use of the term “black caucus”. I mean, caucus is bad enough, inferring infighting and blood letting and take no hostage, but then to imply that it is only black people that engage in such derogatory language abuse is just beyond the pale.
But as bad as all that is, just imagine how big a slam it must be for a black family to have to live in a house named for “white people’, the White House. Doesn’t that imply that if you aren’t white, you shouldn’t be in it. And that family has to endure the shame of living there 24 hours a day, no wonder they go on vacation every chance the get. Geezz, to have to live in a house named for white people when you are black would be a nightmare. Now I know it probably isn’t intentional on the part of white people, but the black people have to put up with that shame anyhow.

Now before anyone gets upset, this is written solely to demonstrate how stupid and petty Costas argument is. There is not, and should not be considered to be racist intent in anyway. It’s just a name.

What about that poor team that surely must be personally humiliated to be called the “Senators.” Now that’s offensive, to be continually compared to a bunch of fat, pampered, blowhards.

Old Guy IMO Costas one of sports greatest announcers—2nd only to Vin Scully.
R.T. Aqua, who is of Indian descent, feels “Redskins” is derogatory and should be removed.
Ditto No American sports team is called the Senators. In hockey there is the Ottawa Senators.

Very quiet night here at F.A.—Wonder why??

@Richard Wheeler:

R.T. Aqua who is of Indian descent feels “Redskins” is derogatory

It’s not my fault he has an inferiority complex. But can you imagine the indignities that the members of the black caucus must feel thinking that the best they can do is the ‘black’ caucus? Why don’t they insist on a name change? What about the poor black people that live in a ‘white’ house. How insufferable that must be. What about all those poor souls that belong to the NAACP. Geez, to have to refer to themselves as ‘colored people’ must be the ultimate indignity. I’m sure you must be very insulted to be referred to as a ‘white’ person. If you think you’re white, look at a sheet of copy paper. All these people walking around with their feelings spread out around them must have to walk lightly to avoid stepping on one of their feelings.
By the way, I take exception to American Indians being referred to as Native Americans as if it is their exclusive club. In my opinion, anyone born in the USA is a Native American. It’s not an exclusive title.

Bob Costas is an out of touch with reality ex sportscaster, now politician.

@Richard Wheeler:

R.T. Aqua, who is of Indian descent, feels “Redskins” is derogatory and should be removed.

Aqua should be removed? why? Just because he feels Redskins is derogatory. Wow, kinda extreme.

Very quiet night here at F.A.—Wonder why?? I’ve posted several that ‘didn’t post.

@Redteam: Just wanted to make sure you’re still monitoring me R.T. Good night
If you get bored google Chris Matthews on Morning Joe Scarborough 5/15/2013 and you’ll see Chris “eat” Obama for breakfast.–scathing

@Richard Wheeler:

Where did I mention the team’s nationality? Nor is it relevant when considering the embarrassment those players must suffer, to be continually bear the moniker of out-of-touch, elitist politicians.

he is following the new trend of the leadership,
change everything old that work for so long,
that’s the OBAMA regime,
HE IS A TRAITOR TO THE SPORT OR HE IS INFLUENCE BY OUTSIDERS, get lost,
NOW THAT HE MADE A LOT OF MONEY ON THE SPORT, HE LEAVE WITH A DESTRUCTIVE OPINION,
GET OUT OF THERE AND GO REDSKINS YOU ARE JUST FINE LIKE IT,

@Richard Wheeler:

Aqua, who is of Indian descent, feels “Redskins” is derogatory and should be removed.

So Aqua, who you consider a “model” conservative, is offended by the term “red skin?” And because he is of “Indian” descent? Really?

Well, tell us, just exactly where is Aqua listed on the Dawes roll? What is his tribal name? Or is he just another Elizabeth Warren?

It is stupid. All of it. Cultural Marxism Political correctness run amuck. The next thing you know Bob Costas will be wanting to charge people for talking about white paper, red-skinned potatoes, yellow markers, brownies and black magic. He’s just a blatant example of how crazy the left really is.

@Redteam: Good morning–you’re a very silly boy.

retire05
wow, I love red skin potatoes, if they change their name,
they will have to deal with me,
i’m ready for a good fight,

Costas, how about removing the SAINT NAME, INSTEAD,
I DON’T ADVISE IT IF YOU WANT TO LIVE,
YOU WOULD GET THEM INTO A HOLY FURY,

@Richard Wheeler:

@Redteam: Good morning–you’re a very silly boy.

What time does your kindergarten class get out today? Are you really limited in your ability to stay at a mature level? Must you always show everyone your childish behavior?

@Redteam: C’mon old man. Your response in #7 shows how foolish and childish you can be. Pick it up a notch. Anything worthwhile to discuss?

@Richard Wheeler

: R.T. Aqua, who is of Indian descent, feels “Redskins” is derogatory and should be removed.

Well, I just can’t figure out why you think Aqua should be removed just because he thinks ‘Redskins’ is derogatory. I think it is telling that you don’t want to discuss Costas’ remark.

@Redteam: ” It is telling that you don’t want to discuss Costas’ remark.”
Why would it be telling anybody that? I’ve said I agree with Costas. Who is this it character?
Bees Think you can sort this out?

Richard Wheeler
costas is a sport commentater he said the
REDSKIN IS A DERAGOTARY NAME AND SHOULD BE REPLACE,
AFTER HE MADE MONEY OUT OF THEM ALL ALONG HIS CAREER,