It’s a sign of deeply damaged liberal thinking that I have to explain to the likes of Tommy Christopher and Keith Olbermann why the rapes and other crime associated with the Occupy matter. There’s no doubt that these crimes occurred (despite Olbermann’s initial blanket denials) and so now the lame defense is that somehow they just are random occurrences that have nothing to do with Occupy, really.
This is dangerous balderdash; the assaults of Occupy are directly related to the philosophy and organization of the Occupy movement, as a series of emails between Occupyiers about a rape at Occupy DC makes clear.
Tommy Christopher has a particularly contemptible article up on Mediaite right now, where he says…
Giving Olbermann the benefit of the doubt, based on his later tweets, he meant, respectively, that the sexual assaults reported at Occupy camps did not constitute a “wave,” and that those assaults could not fairly be characterized as “Occupy rape.” He went on to point out that the assailants were often outsiders, while the victims of the crimes were Occupy protesters. The counter-argument is that he was just back-stopping his earlier errors.
First, factually – it’s not true that the assailants were often outsiders. They weren’t and the fact that Christopher repeats this lie is disgusting. For the sake of Keith and Tommy’s ideologically warped perspectives, let’s be super clear about what the issue here is and what it is not.
It’s not just that assaults happened at Occupy encampments across the country. It’s not just that the assailants were member of Occupy. Are the victims of crime at Occupy also members of Occupy? Yes, of course. That’s true by definition – the crimes happened at Occupy, so the victims were at Occupy. One of the reasons that I’ve covered this story and made it public is out of concern for the victims. I’ve stated publicly a number of times – nobody deserves to be assaulted for attending a political protest.
Are people within the Occupy movement concerned about these crimes? Yes, of course – many of them are naturally concerned for their own safety and the safety of others. And we have reported that they are frustrated by Occupy’s response. The consensus process and security processes simply haven’t worked.
The issue is that the leftist ideas and organizing principles behind Occupy ARE the problem. These concepts and structures have CAUSED the problem and they make the situation dangerous for the victims.
Olby, et al, cannot fathom why any Occupy encampment might need one of these.
Maybe this will help him.
And this.
Maybe Olby is part of the problem, after all, as one article about this concludes:
Some of the male protesters were still in denial over the growing number of sex attacks.
There is a code of silence:
Occupy Baltimore: Sexual Harassment, Threats and a Culture of Silence
Once at that link, see these, too:
Occupy Baltimore Revises Sexual Assault Guidelines
OWS Sexual Assault Victim: “We don’t tell anyone”
Atlantic: Tina Dupuy Glosses Over Occupy’s “Woman Problem”
Another Reported Sexual Assault, This Time at Occupy Lawrence
Occupy Events Nationwide Marred by Reports of Sexual Harassment, Assault
Again! Man Arrested for Rape, Sexual Assault at Occupy Wall Street
Yeah, men are the problem:
No wonder the sexual assaults just kept happening.
Got that?
Lee Stranahan is suggesting that they most commonly were not outsiders. Which is the very load of horse manure that Olbermann has specifically taken issue with.
So, what evidence does Stranahan present as he repeats the accusation? None.
The very fact that he’s on Andrew Breitbart’s site should be a tip off that we’re not dealing with reliable sources. Breitbart, should anyone have failed to notice yet, is barking mad.
@Greg:
The Occupiers are ”the 99%.”
By definition the only outsiders of the Occupy movement are members of the 1%, Greg.
Are you suggesting that 1%ers went around sexually assaulting females (oh! and males!) at so many of these tent cities?
LOL!
Actually greg, brietbart is more sane than you, and more honest. I bet you think olberman is sane. that speaks volumes of you.
There were rapes, murders, drug use, assaults, and other crimes largely committed by OWS people. That is a fact. Your efforts to claim otherwise only show that you are a propagandist who will lie in order to push your cause. For those of us who have been here a while, we know this is standard operating procedure for you.
So keith claims they were outsiders…how about he prove it? Or is this another insane rant of his where he claims if his accusation isn’t true, it’s up to the accused to prove otherwise rather than him prove what he says?
NO OUTSIDERS ARE ABLE TO SNEAK IN THERE TO RAPE THE WOMANS, WE HAVE SEEN ON MANY VIDEOS SOME JOURNALIST WHO WANTED TO CHECK IN being discovered and bullied as soon as they got there, no the rapists are among them as much as they want to use the blame game,
where did they learned that blame game, ah yes from OBAMA AND HIS FRIENDS DEMS,
I think Brietbart looked and sounded drunk in the video when he made those charges.
Oops. Keith’s lies get outed.
http://bigjournalism.com/lstranahan/2012/02/15/a-point-by-point-commentary-on-keith-olbermanns-debunking-of-the-occupy-rape/
@Liberal1 (objectivity):
The lady you emulate, Emily Crockett, has walked back her false charge that Andrew sounded drunk…..or even that it was HE who had a wine glass in his hand!
His hands were obviously empty as a video linked by Hard Right #7 shows.
He was not slurring words, either.
Now you see why CPAC asked him to shave before appearing.
Andrew is a free man.
He didn’t shave.
@Hard Right:
What’s your definition of sane?
I haven’t been recently observed standing on a street corner fizzing like a rabid raccoon and shouting insults at people with whom I disagree.
Honestly, I haven’t been.
Did any of our Liberal/Progs here take the time to read the most interesting and insightful ODC email exchange? Perhaps it should be sent to dippy/denier Olbermann…. I mean this is straight from the horses mouth…
A recent email exchange unearthed by citizen journalist Joe Brooks shows this clearly. Please take the time and read the whole thing– it’s all a conversation between radical activists and members of the Occupy movement. One them of recognizes that the far-left process in place for dealing with these problems simply is not working — something that Keith and Tommy are pretending isn’t the problem.
I just love their continued “separation” of minorities/races by this gem; ” the people of color committee and white allies group” Yea, – ‘WTF!’ OR, Is it WTF???
I don’t know, I guess I have always been ‘stuck on’ the keep it simple – stupid… if your’re an American, then we are ALL AMERICANS… NOT we are somehow all “groups” and “committees”
And this is Occupy’s solution to Law and Order…. One Activist is [woman] is apparently fed up with the ODC dragging their feet [for the cause?] in the handling of a RAPE… many meetings,
campaign speeches, and discussions [in peace and love ] must be had…“If you feel the need to address anyone, you should find a place of understanding rather than insult. Several people are frustrated by your intrusion upon this issue, and I am through with this. So unless you have anything to say that would be constructive or unoffensive, you should refrain from further e-mails.” http://pastebin.com/EpLSea5m
The ideology is so dysfunctional on so many levels….
THAT GROUP WILL BE OUT TO NO GOOD, and they are in OBAMA POCKET, THEY WONT BE RESTRAINED,
WATCH THE WALL STREET WEALTH GET OUT AND RELOCATE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY,
THEY WOULD BE WELL RECEIVED IN CANADA, WHICH PREFER THE AMERICANS TO THE REST OF IMMIGRANTS,
THE POLICE WILL HAVE A HARD TIME AGAIN, DON’T LET THOSE GOONS TAKE A HOLD OF YOU,
LET THEM KNOW, YOU WON’T TOLERATE ANYTHING, THEY WANT THIS DONE NEXT OCTOBER,
ON THE PRETENCE TO EXPOSE WALL STREET PEOPLE, BUT THEY DO IT FOR OBAMA TO BE REELECT.
HIS COMMUNIST
I gave my above comment to
SOLIDARITY US ORG. SAYING OF A BIG RALLY ON NEXT OCTOBER WHICH DID NOT APPEAR HERE BUT CAME TO MY SITE, JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO,
THE UNIONS AND OTHER GROUPS OF DANGEROUS DUDE WILL MARCH TO PROTEST THE BANKS AND WEALTHY PEOPLE THEY MENTION WALL STREET, THERE IS A LINK WHICH I VISIT AND IT WILL BE MASSIVE crowd , I see confrontation and danger,
could it be connected with the POST FROM MATA THE EO BILL SIGNED BY OBAMA
AND OUR CONCERNED, STRANGE BUT POSSIBLE, GET ALL READY,
Smorgasbord it’s here my comments are on 11 and 12 check it up,
bye
the name of the commenter is Solidarity US ORG.
THE LINK IS; http://solidarityus.org
got it now
Smorgasbord
it’s here,check my comments on 11 and 12
here I am again, where do you recieve this comment?