By Mollie Hemingway
A Big Tech-backed “fact” “checking” outfit claimed to debunk explosive evidence in support of Republicans’ claims of significant election problems at a Thursday Georgia Senate hearing. It didn’t. Not even close.
Newly discovered security footage from Georgia’s State Farm Arena showed dozens of ballot counters, media, and Republican observers leaving en masse at the same time from the ballot-counting area for Fulton County. After they left, a small remnant of about four workers began pulling trunks containing thousands of ballots from underneath a table with a long tablecloth and running them through machines.
The footage supported claims from Republicans that they were told counting had stopped for the night, only to find out hours later that it had kept going on. You can and should watch the 12-minute portion of the testimony from Jacki Pick here.
On Friday morning, a group called Lead Stories published a “hoax alert” falsely claiming to have debunked the security video. The Washington Post, Newsweek, and other outlets followed along, criticizing non-leftist journalists for giving the video traction. In fact, none of the claims made by the Republicans were debunked.
Lead Stories’ “fact” “check” says government officials told them everything was fine with the counting, that the ballots were in “containers — not suitcases,” and that “party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night.”
Leaving aside whether relying solely and uncritically on government officials’ claims constitutes anything close to a “fact” “check,” let’s look at the claim that party observers were never told that counting was over for the night. In Lead Stories’ regurgitation of the government officials’ claims, only the people who cut open the absentee ballot envelopes were sent home, while ballot counters and scanners were retained and kept working — and no one told the press or other observers they were done counting.
Were Republican Poll Watchers and the Media Told Counting Had Stopped For The Night?
Georgia Republican Party Chairman David Shafer has consistently said that’s what happened at State Farm Arena, beginning hours after the election:
That claim, which he has repeated consistently, is backed by sworn affidavits from two Republican observers, who further allege they were kept an unreasonable distance from the ballots even while they were at State Farm Arena, making it completely impossible to meaningfully do their jobs. (The video, which shows the room from four different angles, fully supports the claim that poll watchers were kept away from meaningful observation of ballot handling.)
The observers say that they arrived for their observation jobs around 8 p.m. They say in the first half of the 10 o’clock hour, a woman with blonde braids who appeared to be a supervisor “yelled out” to those present in the room that they would stop working for the night and would resume in the morning. The Republican poll watchers said they asked Fulton County Elections Spokesperson Regina Waller questions about the status of the ballot count multiples times but that she refused to answer.
Lead Stories, however, says, “There was never an announcement made to the media and other observers about the counting being over for the night and them needing to leave, according to [Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia Secretary of State], who was provided information by the media liaison, who was present.” While Lead Stories doesn’t name the media liaison, the media liaison who was present that night, according to the affidavits, was Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections.
OK, so on the one hand you have sworn affidavits from observers saying that supervisors told ballot counters to go home for the evening shortly after 10 p.m. and a video showing everyone leaving en masse at that time. And on the other hand, you have two government officials promising that no one was told that counting was over. Is there any other evidence to consider?
Well, on election night, ABC News reported that ballot counters were sent home at the time that the Republican observers said everyone was told counting had stopped. Their source? Regina Waller:
https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2020/12/03/the-georgia-ballot-underground-railroad/
Goes off of the videos (four cameras were watching the room, apparently unbeknownst to these ballot counters.)
Both narrates and shows what went on INCLUDING one of the four scanning the same ballots multiple times!
Also shown is the timeline.
And the irrelevance of the burst pipe.
Names the players as well.
I posted the article on my Facebook, Parler and MeWe pages and got “fact checked” on Facebook. This article is “partly false”. Know why? Well, none of the affidavits swore that anyone was told to “leave”.
See? They weren’t told to “leave”. They were told to “stop working and return the next morning”. See the difference?
Really… you can’t make this shit up. Cmon, man! What a load of Pelosi!
@Deplorable Me:
In the real world of fact checking and credible arguments, Mollie Hemingway and anything associated with the Federalist is pretty much dinged as fake news or at least conspicuously unreliable from the get go.
Any social media attempting to buffer propaganda and fiction from political debates, or at least trying to slow the flow of false information to its viewers, would likely have them red flagged, particularly considering their history of consistent inaccuracies and misinformation. I’d label them right up there with The Onion or Babylon Bee only not funny.
@Ronald J. Ward: Those that claimed they debunked it are Factcheck.org Which is a front for dark Democrat money slushing.
Owner:Annenberg Public Policy Center funded primarily by the Annenberg Foundation. …https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/annenberg-foundation/summary?id=D000031561
NOTE: The organization itself did not donate, rather the money came from the organization’s individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate family members. Organizations themselves cannot contribute to candidates and party committees who shall not be named.
Just a few minutes of looking into something and you might find something like deep bias.
I think I will believe my lying eyes, the man in the video has been identified he a a crook too.
Left-wing cognitive dissonance is on full display now.
After a third ballot count in Georgia, Biden remains the winner:
December 7, 2020 – Georgia recount requested by Trump confirms Biden’s win
Governor Kemp has declined Trump’s request to call a special session of the Georgia legislature to overturn the election results:
December 7, 2020 – Kemp doubles down on refusal to call election-focused special session
Such an act would signal the end of American democracy. Those calling for it aren’t worthy of the offices they hold by virtue of the democratic election process. Their oaths of office apparently meant nothing to them.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Oh my… really? I would just LOVE to see some of the valid examples you would provide.
Aside from fraud, what would be the reason to fake a water main break, chase all the observers off, then resume ballot counting from bins that had been hidden? Still waiting for an answer.
@kitt:
I think those like AJ prefer to simply hear someone else say it is a lie without a shred of evidence. This explains the absolute total absence of any substantiation of any of his claims. Hearsay is fact, facts are meaningless. Evidence is to be ignored.
@Greg: the clear evidence of voter fraud in Georgia will handily flip it to Trump, no problem.
Now on to the other states where this highly organized and completely fraudulent coup attempt is being dismantled piece by piece.
Marxism does not work. We will never allow Marxism in this country, greg.
There are now thousands of sworn affidavits attesting to Democrat fraud.
Biden did not win the election. Claiming so is to be a traitor to the United States of America in the Constitution.
Hope you’re ready. We are.
@Deplorable Me: most people wonder how Nazis and Soviets allowed tragedies to happen. I see it now when I listen to left-wing people. You can tell that they know this is all wrong, but continue to huddle in the false safety of what they believe is the conformity of the herd. You can hear the cracks in Ron/AJs non-arguments.
It is proper and morally obligatory to require fair and legal elections in the United States of America. this has nothing to do with Trump and Biden at this point. It has to do with maintaining the Republic.
There’s just too much evidence that fraud occurred to throw the election to Biden. If this happened for Trump I’d be saying the same thing.
As it stands a selection is illegitimate. Biden cannot be the president, legally, and anyone supporting this is committing treason.
@Nathan Blue:
Considering your history of denial of reality, hatred of Biden, and reluctance to find a single fault of your idle, it’s unimaginable that you typed that with a straight face.
You can’t bring yourself to seeing the multiple obstacles Trump faced in his reelection bid, you couldn’t accept any wrongdoing of his impeachment charges with Ukraine or even that he may have obstructed the congressional investigation. You insist his handling of COVID was top notch and we’ve rounded the curve, that he built an incredible economy, that his assault on peaceful protestors for a photo op was justifiable, that he’s united the country rather than divided it, and I suppose, that he would have graciously congratulated Biden had he felt all was fair.
Your statement is not only some fairytale fiction but it’s who today’s so-called conservatives have evolved into-a party unable to accept realities that don’t compliment their agenda.
Paul Krugman had an interesting article on this. I know you won’t accept his opinion but then, as he says, you can’t handle the truth.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Oh, we’ve seen them. A hostile liberal media that promotes propaganda for the Democrats, Democrats committing treason and sedition to remove Trump from office, Democrats weaponizing China’s virus to attack Trump, though they brushed it off while he was acting to face the threat, suppression of news that was damaging to Biden and Democrat voter fraud.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Nathan has a car running but not mechanically engaged?
There really was nothing debunked
The tape clearly shows votes being counted without observers present, that breaks GA election law
What part of this is hard to comprehend?
The tapes do not show the placement of the ballot cases or the MSM would be rolling that 24/7.
830 am the woman rolls the skirted table into the area, they only touch them after witnesses and other workers are told they are done for the night and leave.
The man in the video even tells the media about a water main break that was a complete lie.
Why shouldnt we be very suspicious?
Why shouldnt every ballot scanned illegally be removed from the final count?
@Deplorable Me:
You have this remarkable way of proving me correct without even knowing it.
You not only ignore the realities that Trump was losing in every single poll, that he never expanded his base which he so desperately needed, that GA and AZ were turning from red to purple, that big name donors had turned from him and his cash flow had dried up (actually forcing him to pull ads late in the campaign), and that COVID and the economy was dragging him down, but you even add to the list.
Okay, uh, wait a minute. So, Americans were tricked into voting Biden because Dems used their constitutional authority to impeach, build a media network to discredit, and then capitalized on the virus for a political edge?
That doesn’t sound like ballot stuffing or suitcases or voting machine software switching or dead presidents from other countries. Be it true or false, an orchestrated effort to discredit a president may be dirty politics and far from ethical, is a long shot from denying a dully elected president his seat.
And these additional obstacles you mention further shows that Trump’s reelection was in jeopardy and that by all rights, the count is logically accurate.
We’ve seen this moving of the goal posts his entire term, changing whatever arguments to defend him every time facts goes against his favor.
@kitt:
Can you link to a credible source confirming these accusations? They seem to be floating around the conservative blogs and propaganda sites but otherwise come up blank.
Why are they not being brought up in a courtroom? And why have the few or similar ones that have been brought up been promptly rejected-even by conservative and Trump appointed judges?
@Ronald J. Ward: Its on the security tape.
Damn you are a dense fool.
Read the article above it might help you comment on the subject.
Whip cream on top
https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1336175895837478912/photo/1
@kitt:
Refer back to my 1st comment, #3.
I suppose it’s better that Trump is a political cult leader rather than a religious cult leader.
December 8, 2020 – Arizona GOP asks if followers willing to give their lives to ‘stop the steal’
@Ronald J. Ward: #16 then STFU you have nothing to add to this thread. Please list your preferred propaganda news outlets, as we have abandoned them for lack of information.
BREAKING: Texas files lawsuit directly to Supreme Court challenging election results in four states
This skips the delays of lower courts that the Trump attorneys are slogging through in appeals and must be addressed by the SCOTUS and Ted Cruz is ready willing and able to argue the constitutional points. He has faced the SC 9 times
@kitt:
And the smears against Senator Cruz comes from Comrade Greggie and Ward/AJ in 3…….2……..
Ken Paxton can petition the Tooth Fairy, if he wishes. That would be equally likely to overturn the election. He’s essentially attempting to disenfranchise the voters of other states.
5,259,126 residents of his own state voted for Joe Biden. Nationally, Biden beat Trump by over 7 million popular votes. American voters have rejected Donald Trump by a wide margin. Why some republicans are assisting him in his efforts to blow a hole in their party on the way out the door is beyond me.
@kitt:
The TX lawsuit is another example of grasps to deny voters their voice rather than fraudulent voting. The late Hail Mary pass suit argues mail in voting itself rather than the validity of the count.
In other words, if the recounts didn’t give the numbers they wanted, suitcases ballot stuffing didn’t fly, Republican governors wouldn’t help them overturn it and dead Chicago mayor’s handbook got laughed out of court, well, let’s try this and see if this sticks to the wall.
It really isn’t about getting cheated out of a win but that he didn’t win and will do whatever it takes to reverse it.
Like most cases of Trump, the scam becomes more clear by the hour yet his cultists refuse to see it.
I get the Trump desperation and refusal to concede because living in an orange suit locked in a jail cell obviously isn’t that appealing to him.
@Greg: I think its brilliant my vote was disenfranchised by those 200,000 not having to give their ID when I did, by not cleaning the voting rolls of those 150,000 that moved, by filling in information on ballots that was missing and not spoiling them as required.
So unless you are from one of the stolen states kiss our ass.
Ward: Kiss my ass
@retire05, #19:
I’d hate to disappoint you.
Ted should get a Fidel cap and fatigue jacket to go with the beard.
@kitt:
@kitt:
Sounds like the agony of defeat.
@Ronald J. Ward: lol, we shall see Banjo boy this is something beyond your mental grasp it deals with laws and the constitution.
@Commrade Greg: Thanks for proving the point
@kitt, #22:
You haven’t been disenfranchised. You’ve been outvoted.
No one is attempting to have any Trump voters disenfranchised by either court or legislative action other than Trump’s own allies. Only Trump loyalists are trying to have anyone’s ballot thrown out.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Hehe. Just try to “arrest” him yourself, tough guy. No. You’ll sit in your basement like the incel you are. Make sure your mom gets your Xanax prescription refilled…and your sex-offender registration updated.
As for the lawsuits, simply blathering on does not suddenly dismiss them. It’s very apparent, given the now THOUSANDS of affidavits, that election fraud occurred.
Plausible deniability, sadly, doesn’t give anyone the legal right to steal an election.
Biden won nothing. The larger issue is indoctrinated Cult members like you are willingly opening the gates to our enemies. It’s nothing new, in history. Scared sheep, running in circles, right into the jaws of the wolf.
Luckily for you, there’s actual men in the this country who won’t let a non-elected Biden pretend he’s President.
Trump won and outperformed in every county in the country, except the urban counties in only swing states, where all of the allegations of election fraud are being brought to court.
Lying. Racially intimidated poll watchers. Counting votes on tape after telling watchers to go home (or that counting was done for the night….it’s the same thing). Dominion voting machines being wiped and also switching votes from Trump to Biden. Changing laws, Unconstitutionally just before the election. The first recount in GA “found” 5500 votes for Trump alone….FIFTY-FIVE HUNDRED VOTES!!! This election was an organized coup attempt, and somewhere in your pea-brain you know it.
God, there’s so much evidence only a desperate loser would pretend it’s not there….though I know your disinformation outlets are telling you what to think.
This election was rigged. There’s too much evidence. Saying “there’s no evidence” or “there’s not enough evidence” is exactly what the cheaters and their cheerleaders would say.
Win the election the old-fashioned way: have more legal votes. Switched “glitch” votes, dead votes, and giving someone a beer so they give you their ballot is not a legal vote.
@Ronald J. Ward: And you prove, time and time again that you are either totally clueless or cannot detach yourself from lies. Probably a combination of both.
Didn’t extend his base? The Hispanic vote won Florida for him. He got a higher percentage of black voters than any Republican since 1960. How did those polls work out? You needed MASSIVE fraud to drag old Gropin’ Stumblin’ Lyin’ Quid Pro Genius Joe across the finish line. Trump got more LEGITIMATE votes than any candidate in history. Biden got FRAUDULENT votes.
You still can’t answer the question of WHY Democrats made up the story of a broken water main to get rid of observers and, instead of stopping, dragged out their stashed votes and began counting… resulting in a mysterious spike in Biden votes. A “pause” in counting that, also mysteriously, happened in numerous key states. Then there are the mail in votes in Pennsylvania… some of which arrived before they were mailed. Nevada, where the dead, non-resident and those who “lived” in PO boxes and RV parks voted in droves. There is simply too much fraud to even list. It is an irrefutable fact that the fraud was massive and widespread. Yet you celebrate the cheating of America. That is scumbaggery.
No… they ABUSED the Constitutional authority to impeach, doing it for purely political reasons. There was no evidence of any crime… well, not by Trump, anyway. We saw that Biden was corrupt as hell. And a corrupt, lying media reporting 95% negative stories, mostly untrue about Trump and reporting NONE of the great, positive achievements of his, in addition to burying all the corruption, lies and incompetence of Biden has a bit of an effect. Well, I mean… just look at how ignorant YOU are!
@kitt:
Yes. Indeed he is.
@Greg:
Well, that would have to be verified. Also, a “resident” is not necessarily a legal voter. Democrats were caught trying to cheat numerous times. No doubt they succeeded at other times. Democrats have no credibility or trust.
No, numerous examples show that number is greatly inflated by fraud and ANTI-Americans rejected Trump. Anyone that voted for a proven incompetent, failed, corrupt liar like Biden and condones the massive fraud it took for him to “win” HATES this country.
@Greg:
Prove it.
Hey greg, how do “elections” work in China?
And I want to remind you, Marxism is a failed, dead ideology that only ends in suffering and economic ruin for everyone.
Marxism will never take hold in the United States, and when Xi fails to feed those billion plus mouths as the world trades less, they are going to tear him and the CCP apart.
@Greg: We have election laws they broke them toss out every single illegal vote is all we ask. If Biden still wins then Trump can place the mint on the pillow make sure the Peoples house is 5 star clean and return to private life.
I wont like it but will accept it like Barrys term.
Another Peace treaty with Sudan what a mess he is leaving the war mongers.
@Nathan Blue, #30:
That Trump’s supporters have been outvoted will be conclusively demonstrated on January 20th, whether they accept Biden’s inauguration and assumption of presidential power and authority as evidence or not. I don’t know what the problem is. I’ve backed as many presidential losers as winners over the course of my adult life.
@kitt: Democrats fear any investigations. That tells you all you need to know.
@Greg: All that would demonstrate is that fraud works and the Constitution is on its way out.
@Deplorable Me:
They fear more we insist that our election laws be followed to the letter.
From my perspective, the most amoral, corrupt, and dangerous administration in modern U.S. history is on its way out. Over the past four years, many people have forgotten what normalcy is.
Many of the people who have consistently asserted that this election was properly conducted, with no indications of any serious irregularities, are republicans or republican appointees. Dozens of judges have dismissed lawsuits, noting a complete lack of credible evidence supporting claims of irregularities.
Trump’s followers will believe only Donald Trump and Trump loyalists. That belief seems to be unquestioning. Should any of the foregoing change their tune, they immediately become enemies.
@Nathan Blue:
That’s not my department or even my concern. I’ll just be glad to have the racist murdering egomaniac vagina grabbing serial ling son of a bitch out of the WH.
Even after his questionably illegal self-pardoning, it doesn’t fly in New York and they may be less generous than me.
One thing for sure, he’s out of power come Jan 20.
The buzzards are waiting.
“Evidence” is material introduced during a trial. If there is no trial, there is no evidence. If a judge decides not to allow a trial, that means there is no evidence. There is no recourse under these circumstances. A bench decision not to try is final.
So get over it. The election was fraudulent. Dead people voted, printing machines voted, some people voted many times, totals were adjusted to make it fair, Republicans were not allowed to witness counting, and so on.
The World’s most advanced industrial nation and we can’t count ballots. How sad. We can machine score tests. We can keep track of trillions of dollars of transactions. But we have to outsource our ballot counting to some guys from Venezuela, who helped Chavez stay in office. And ballot totals have nothing to do with the number of ballots. The totals are fractional, having been adjusted for the sake of fairness.
It is depressing to see the United States buried by the Deep State.
God help us all!
@Banjo boy Ronald J. Ward: Poor baby did trump grab your pussy? Or just grab you cause you are one?
Well no midnight deliveries of “hot dogs” to the WhiteHouse. in the last 4. No night Stalker second wives sneaking into the private living areas, no ants, mice, broken toilet seats, filth, ancient energy sucking AC systems, leaking windows dog poo on antique carpets, no funding terrorists all the stuff you freaks hate will be gone.
The gardens restored the Tennis court updated no need for other world leaders to think what a pigsty.
Count those chickens from store bought eggs.
@Greg:
And 5,890,347 Texans voted for Trump. Including the two most Hispanic counties in Texas. So what is your point, exactly?
I’m sure you have your Che’ t-shirt handy. It is you, not Ted Cruz, who is a fan of any Communist. Of course, you moronic lefties don’t care that Che personally murdered the Cubans in the name of “Socialism.”
So keep screaming at the sky “THERE WAS NO ELECTION FRAUD.” You have never been right on any of the claims you make here.
You’re just a useful idiot for the Socialist left.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Aren’t you a little behind times? Bubba Clinton left office in January 2001.
In Georgia, Ware County Elections Director, Carlos Nelson, confirmed that the recently completed hand count audit totals showed the total electronic vote count shorted Donald Trump 37 votes and added those 37 votes to totals for Joe Biden.
Other counties electronic ballot counts were off by the same proportion.
In Antrim County, Michigan the same system swapped 6,000 votes from Trump to Biden.
@Greg:
Yeah, well, your “perspective” approves of voter fraud, threatening children with death, murdering infants, political terrorism, convicting loyal US Generals without evidence, impeaching a lawfully elected President to serve a political purpose and paying Iran to accept their terms to create a nuclear weapon to destroy Israel, so your “perspective” is flushable.
Unlike you, we believe evidence and we don’t believe crimes have been committed when there is NO evidence.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Hell, you just VOTED for that guy and support fraud to put him in office!
@mathman:
Oh, we can count ballots. We’ve done it for over 230 years. The problem is, a free government is easily subverted when dishonest people take it over, and dishonest people have been putting dishonest people into the courts for decades. Now, the corrupt left can break laws and, in the rare incidence when someone is actually held accountable, they will face a judge that will inject ideology into the decisions that should be based on law. They work the other way, too, persecuting innocent people for ideological purposes; see General Flynn.
@retire05, #41:
Only that 5.2 million Texans have rejected Donald Trump’s presidency. They’re part of the 81,271,249 American voters who did so. What was the point of your question?
https://welovetrump.com/2020/12/08/breaking-dominion-remotely-accessed-voting-terminals-during-2020-election-in-georgia/?utm_source=newsletter_vm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=vm
Nothing to see here. Move along. Nothing to see here.
@Deplorable Me: https://time.com/5366171/11-year-old-hacked-into-us-voting-system-10-minutes/
@Greg:
81,271,249?
Hehe. No.
The election is decided by legal votes, not bullshit ones. Maybe in your home of country of China, it’s like that.
Sorry.
@Nathan Blue: If Greg tells any truth his state had a 500K Trump win, I bet his wood burning neighbor voted Trump 😉
@kitt: greg works for China. That’s too apparent, now. He’s likely a college professor, in my opinion.
But the substance….it’s so laughable, how often he backtracks, lies, or just changes the subject.
His aim isn’t to “win” an argument. It’s to just keep squawking until everyone else stops talking.
Any real American would understand you can’t cheat in elections, and if so much of the population believes it was a sham election, the results will never be respected.
Trump outperformed the polls EVERYWHERE except for the fraud centers in swing state urban areas. Trump obviously won, but after the false impeachment, the false Russiagate, and now false election, the Dems simply have their idiot followers on a string. They have no understanding of how to be critical or objective, but rather just swallow what they are told while accusing non-Leftists of doing the same.
Non-Leftists are now the Kulaks of our day, and people like greg and Ron/AJ want an extermination. They know it. They wants arrests, exiles, and death.
That’s were fraud elections based on racist class warfare end up.
Not on my watch.