NATO escalates (again) and achieves nothing (again)

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by Andrei

I think that we ought to begin this overview of what is currently taking place which is that the united West, aka the AngloZionist Hegemony is desperate and in direct to this despair is doing all sorts of very foolish and plainly dangerous things.  We all know about the The Big Three:
 

  • The attack on NS1/NS2
  • The attack on the Crimea Bridge (CB)
  • The attack on the Black Sea Fleet (BSF) base in Sevastopol

Truth be told, these are three completely different events.
 
One is a pure act of international terrorism, both in the choice of target (a major civilian infrastructural object owned by several countries and corporate entities) and in the mode of execution (the use of remotely operated bombs).  Most critically, while under international law collateral damage is not prohibited, the target of an attack has to be military and the collateral damage minimized to the absolute minimum.
 
The second one is a diversionary attack.  That is an attack carried out by unconventional means, but whose target is at least partially a military one, which the Crimean Bridge definitely is.  One could even argue that the actual death toll (4 if I remember correctly) and the very minor inconvenience to the civilians (traffic was at least partially restored in less than 24 hours, not to mention existing alternatives such as ferries) make that target legitimate by itself.  In this case, it is the mode of execution – the use of a truck full of explosives driven either by a suicide bomber or unsuspecting civilian – which raises a lot of international law and law of war issues
 
The third attack was a purely military one.  The intended target was the Russian Black Sea Fleet and the methods used (underwater, surface and airborne drones) are all, in my opinion, legitimate.
 
That being said, this all begs the question of what NATO was trying to achieve here:
 

Target Military rationale Optics
NS1/NS2 none (unless we assume that the Anglos attacked the EU itself!) huge
Crimean Bridge major if the attack had succeeded, in actuality negligible huge
BSF base major if the attack had succeeded, in actuality negligible huge

 
From this table we can quickly infer a few things:
 

  • The only truly successful (in purely military terms) attack was on the NS1/NS2
  • The Crimean Bridge and BSF attack failed due to the lack of adequate standoff weapons for NATO, which NATO specialists must have known, so from this we can also infer that
  • The main objective of this NATO attack was, as usual, optics.

Next, we need to look at the political dimension/implications of these attacks from the Russian point of view.  In this case, if the first attack was an attack on property which was at least in part owned by Russia (and Germany and others), the CB and BSF attack were attacks on Russian sovereign soil.

[Sidebar: I have been saying that Russia and the united West are at war since AT LEAST 2013, but that war was initially mostly informational and economic, now it is becoming much more kinetic than before, so we can call this escalation qualitative]

Now, I would certainly argue that while an attack on Russian state (or near state) owned property could be considered an act of war, the attacks on the CB and the BSF base in Sevastopol were most definitely acts of war.  The fact that these attacks failed to deliver any tangible military results for NATO in no way changes that.
 
So what do we call an act of war which yields no tangible military benefits?
 
I think that this is what should be called a provocation.
 
So what is a “provocation”?  There are plenty of definition out there ranging from, for example, the legal one (“Conduct by which one induces another to do a particular deed; the act of inducing rage, anger, or resentment in another person that may cause that person to engage in an illegal act“) to the more common “the action is in the reaction“.  The point is, what these apparently rather different attacks have in common was the intention to trigger some kind of reaction from Russia which could then be used to demonize Putin, Russia and everything Russian.
 
Which, as it happens, is exactly the mantra repeated by the “dumbshit stupid” western wannabe “friends of Russia” who constantly ask for Russian military escalations and when they don’t get what they want and even when they want it (!), they switch over the the AngloZionist strategic PSYOP taking points about Putin being “weak, indecisive, a sellout, etc. etc. etc.”.
 
Gee whiz, I wonder why Putin remains so obtuse and refuses to listen to his “learned western friends of Russia” 😉
 
More seriously, while looking up definitions of “provocations” I came across this page and this sentence: “No military provocation by irregular forces can justify a full-scale attack and the destruction of a country whose national forces or authorities had no role in that provocation“.  I am not so sure about the main thesis of this sentence, but I do agree that in all three attacks mentioned above, there was a (very thin) attempt by the perpetrators to remain unnamed precisely in order to avoid a direct Russian retaliation against the Hegemony,  say, like singling out one member of NATO for yet another increase in the Russian pain dial.
 
By the way. here is how a “properly anti-Russian” website explains the word “provocation:
 

 
Got to love those “democratic and free countries” 🙂
 
Needless to say, Putin and his senior officials are way too smart to react exactly as the Hegemony would have them, we have seen that in too many cases to count.  And here is where we observe an outright weird cycle which goes something like this:
 

  1. The Hegemony provoques Russia
  2. Russia fails to react as intended
  3. Putin is accused of weakness, indecisiveness or even cowardice
  4. Russia does something unexpected
  5. Russia gets stronger and stronger
  6. The Hegemony gets weaker and weaker
  7. To hide its quickly worsening position, the Hegemony provokes Russia again (goto #1)

The intention here is clear: escalate as high as can be but SHORT of an overt (lacking “plausible deniability”) attack on Russia in order to make it look like Russia just escalates (which she eventually does, just much later and in a way very different than what was expected) with no good reason other than “Putin is a New Hitler who cannot appeased“, he wants to “rebuilt the Soviet Union” and “the Russians are simply evil, non-European, barbarians who would occupy and pillage all of Europe if not for the heroic Ukrainian armed forces“.  Cancel Russia and all that…
 
Still, while an “anonymous attack” is not quite a false flag (for the latter requires a “blamed flag” in the first place) it is very close and shares much of the same features.
 
It does not require a lot of imagination or expertise to see that at the very least the Hegemony is playing with fire, if only because each attack which failed to yield any military advantage only serves to further underscore the awful situation NATO finds itself in.  I will summarize this as follows:
 

  • The Ukronazi military, which was the biggest and best military in NATO has been mostly demilitarized and denazified.  Hence the need for
  • The Hegemony to now provide both soldiers and equipment to compensate for the horrendous Ukrainian losses.
  • Providing advanced military kit and trained personnel in small numbers is basically useless (other than for the optics of “the entire world is with Kiev”) and western force planners and commanders understand that.
  • And just to make things worse, former Warsaw Treaty Organization member countries have already donated most of their ex-Soviet hardware which the “losing” Russians promptly destroyed (including about 6’000 (six thousand!) main battle tanks (MBT) and infantry combat vehicles (ICV)).
  • While NATO still does have weapons large stores, they are smaller than what NATO already lost in the Ukraine by at least an order of magnitude.
  • This is all made even worse by the poor performance of most Western-made weapons systems, especially when they are delivered in insufficient numbers to even theoretically make a difference.  When Germany or the US eventually sends its newest MBTs to the Ukraine, the optics of them burning like the Israeli Merkavas did in Lebanon would be absolutely awful for the US MIC.
  • To bring enough forces to even *consider* waging a combined arms offense against Russia would require NATO to somehow safely bring in truly large amounts of equipment and soldiers.  This would take many months and is simply not doable, especially not with the TOTAL absence of modern air defenses in the EU.  Besides, once this hypothetical force is safely (and, therefore, miraculously) brought to some (miraculously safe) location in the EU, how do you move all that to where the action is today?  You can’t “simply” land a battalion or brigade somewhere in, say, France or even Poland and then “simply drive” up to the line of contact.

And that all brings us to the latest idiocy cooked up in the demented and ignorant minds of the Neocons: to bring more nuclear weapons near the Russian border.  Why do I call this an idiocy?
 

  • The Russians know exactly where NATO nukes are and Russia has hypersonic vehicles to deal with them if needed.  Forward deployment is very Cold War, modern warfare make most such deployment not only useless but counter-productive (the closer to Russia, the easier to defeat for Russians)
  • The Russian layered and integrated air defense system (both the one protecting the Russian military forces and the one protecting crucial objectives in Russia) makes any limited attack on Russia useless (as shown by the recent attack on the BSF base)
  • A massive attack on Russia cannot be anonymous or have any “plausible deniability” and will result in an absolutely devastating Russian response even on any NATO country which participated in the attack.

So can you set off a nuke (real or “dirty) just for optics or to feel good?
 
Of course not.
 
But the demonic freaks who run the Hegemony are not demonic freaks for no good reasons.  These are the folks who brought us 9/11, the WMD crap and the GWOT!  These are the folks who destroyed country after country with truly satanic viciousness.
 
These are the folks who ruined and lade waste to every single country they could take control off, the latest being, of course, the Ukraine itself.
 
We are dealing with psychopaths who will do absolutely *anything* to stay in power, both on the planetary scale (the Hegemony) or in Washington DC (see video at the bottom of this article)
 
Finally, and truth be told, everybody knows.  It does not take Liz Truss’ message to Blinken to know who is behind all these attacks and the “plausible deniability” criterion as been made so thin as to become irrelevant.  Here are just three examples illustrating this: (there are many more!)

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Ukraine has lost the war. Now it’s just the ground that NATO/USA are fighting the Russians on.

Ukraine is about to take back Kherson. They hit the Russian air defense system of the city a few hours ago. If Ukraine takes back Kherson, Putin will REALLY be winning. His popularity at home will undoubtedly soar.

Damn him for all the people he has killed, for all the lives he has crippled and ruined, and all of the peaceful cities and villages he has reduced to rubble. Damn him for making children into orphans, for cursing parents with grief, for making widows and widowers—all for NOTHING.

Last edited 2 years ago by Greg

Ukraine is about to take back Kherson.

No they’re not. The rough coalition of mercenaries, now buttressed by the US, is performing their expected election stunt by “taking back Kherson.”

Just give it up. Damn you for the lies you spew, and damn Biden and his masters for the lives they’ve killed in an avoidable war.

Damn them for the millions dead from released Covid.

And damn them for the dead now killed by poverty and crime.

Just shut the f*ck up, greg. Your propaganda isn’t working.

Last edited 2 years ago by Nathan Blue

As I predicted, the “take back Kherson” hoax is already underway right before the mid-terms.

They’d actually send people to die for some cheap propaganda thinking they can sway our elections.

Anything short of a GOP controlled House and Senate is proof the Democrats cheated. No one, beyond those indoctrinated, would vote for these people unless they were in the grip of hysteria generated by simple misinformation.

Exactly correct

We now know the narratives pushed are formed with the cooperation of the censorship oligarchs of Silicon Valley.

How dare moron biden tell us the expect delays for November election results. In perhaps the most developed country we are unable to complete the simple task of correctly counting votes in a reasonable time frame.

The democrats bake cheats into the cake.

Greg on Seniors Are Getting Crushed by Biden’s Inflation, and Nobody’s Talking About It: “Yeah, that’s a steaming load of totally irresponsible horse manure. People have died because they believed such bullshit. Read the…”
Nov 3, 03:37

It appears ole greg was on a 13 hour shift.

If you had any doubt that you’re being fed pro-Putin propaganda, mention of “the AngloZionist Hegemony” should clarify the situation.

Complications of the Ukraine War
Christopher Caldwell
Claremont Review of Books

The following is adapted from a talk delivered at Hillsdale College on October 4, 2022, during a Center for Constructive Alternatives conference on the topic of Russia.

According to what we hear from the White House and from the television networks, the issues at stake in the Ukraine War are simple. They concern the evil of Vladimir Putin, who woke up one morning and chose, whether out of sadism or insanity, to wreak unspeakable violence on his neighbors. Putin’s actions are described as an “unprovoked invasion” of a noble democracy by a corrupt autocracy. How we ought to respond is assumed to be a no-brainer. The United States has pledged vast quantities of its deadliest weaponry, along with aid that is likely to run into the hundreds of billions of dollars, and has brought large parts of the world economy—particularly in Europe—to a standstill.

Now, whenever people in power tell you something is a no-brainer, there’s a good chance that it’s a brainer. And the Ukraine War is more complicated than we’ve been led to assume.

There are reasons why the U.S. might want to project power into the Black Sea region. But we must not ignore that the politics of the region are extraordinarily complex, that the Ukraine conflict is full of paradoxes and optical illusions, and that the theater we are entering has been, over the past 150 years, the single most violent corner of the planet. And unless we learn to respect the complexity of the situation, we risk turning it into something more dangerous, both for Europeans and for ourselves.

Historic Roots of the Conflict
Putin invaded Ukraine after the U.S. rejected his demand for a guarantee that Ukraine not join NATO. We don’t have to excuse Putin, but we should note that, until quite recently, having Ukraine in NATO was a prospect that struck even many American foreign policy thinkers as a bad idea. These included George Kennan, who was one of the architects of the NATO alliance when the Cold War began in the late 1940s. Kennan was still alert and active, at about 90 years of age, when NATO won the Cold War at the turn of the 1990s. And in 1997, during the Clinton administration, he warned that American plans to push NATO borders “smack up to those of Russia” was the “greatest mistake of the entire post–Cold War era.”

John Mearsheimer, a professor at the University of Chicago, is a forceful representative of Kennan’s viewpoint. Mearsheimer is skeptical of “idealist” crusades, like the one in Iraq that George W. Bush drew the country into in 2003. He thinks President Bush dramatically overestimated the degree to which the U.S. could spread its values and its institutions. In light of present events, he especially faults Bush’s push to bring the former Soviet Republics of Georgia and Ukraine into NATO in 2008.

A lot of Americans in government at the time felt the same. One was William Burns, then President Bush’s ambassador in Moscow, now President Biden’s Director of Central Intelligence. In a memo to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Burns wrote the following:

Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all red lines for the Russian elite (not just Putin). In more than two-and-a-half years of conversations with key Russian players, from knuckle-draggers in the dark recesses of the Kremlin to Putin’s sharpest liberal critics, I have yet to find anyone who views Ukraine in NATO as anything other than a direct challenge to Russian interests. [It would be seen] as throwing down the strategic gauntlet. Today’s Russia will respond. Russian-Ukrainian relations will go into a deep freeze. . . . It will create fertile soil for Russian meddling in Crimea and eastern Ukraine.

In thinking about why this would be the “brightest of all red lines,” consider why it was that the Ukraine problem didn’t get resolved at the end of the Cold War.

Russia is a vast country—the largest in the world. It’s not so much a country as an empire. Even today it has dozens of ethnic republics in it. Maybe you’ve heard of Chechnya or Tatarstan. But have you heard of Tuva? Or Mari-El? Or the Republic of Sakha? Sakha is four times the size of Texas, but it disappears inside of Russia. Back in the day, of course, this vast Russian empire was part of another empire, famously referred to by Ronald Reagan as the Evil Empire—that is, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. There were 15 Soviet Republics, including Russia, Ukraine, the Baltic states, Armenia, and Turkestan. And that bigger empire was part of an even bigger empire, which included the Eastern European “captive nations” of Poland and Hungary.

When Communism collapsed in the early 1990s, all these countries found their way to independence, most of them peacefully, some of them bloodily. But Ukraine, while nominally independent, remained bound to Russia in a number of informal ways—sometimes willingly, sometimes reluctantly. Russia kept its Black Sea fleet in Crimea, unmolested by Ukraine. Ukraine got cheap gas and desperately needed financial assistance.

Why wasn’t Ukraine able to make a clean break? Not because it forgot to. Not for lack of can-do spirit. It was just a really hard problem. With the possible exception of Latvia, Ukraine was the most Russian of the non-Russian Soviet Republics. Russian has for a long time been the language of its big cities, of its high culture, and of certain important regions.

If you had to give a one-word answer to what this Ukraine War is about, you would probably say Crimea. Crimea is a peninsula jutting out into the middle of the Black Sea. It’s where the great powers of Europe fought the bloodiest war of the century between Napoleon and World War I. It is a defensive superweapon. The country that controls it dominates the Black Sea and can project its military force into Europe, the Middle East, and even the steppes of Eurasia. And since the 1700s, that country has been Russia. Crimea has been the home of Russia’s warm water fleet for 250 years. It is the key to Russia’s southern defenses.

Crimea found itself within the borders of Ukraine because in 1954, the year after Stalin died, his successor Nikita Khrushchev signed it over to Ukraine. Historians now hotly debate why he did that. But while Crimea was administratively Ukrainian, it was culturally Russian. It showed on several occasions that it was as eager to break with Ukrainian rule as Ukraine was to break with Russian rule. In a referendum in January 1991, 93 percent of the citizens of Crimea voted for autonomy from Ukraine. In 1994, 83 percent voted for the establishment of a dual Crimean/Russian citizenship. We’ll leave aside the referendum held after the Russians arrived in 2014, which resulted in a similar percentage but remains controversial.

Enter the United States
With the end of Communism, Ukraine was beset by two big problems. First, it was corrupt. It was run by post-Communist oligarchs in a way that very much resembled Russia. In many ways Ukraine was worse off. In Russia, Putin—whatever else you may think of him—was at least able to rebuff those oligarchs who sought direct political control.

The second problem for Ukraine was that it was divided between a generally Russophile east and a generally Russophobe west. It was so divided, in fact, that Samuel Huntington devoted a long section in his book The Clash of Civilizations to the border between the two sections. But Huntington did not think that the line dividing them was civilizational. He wrote: “If civilization is what counts . . . the likelihood of violence between Ukrainians and Russians should be low. They are two Slavic, primarily Orthodox peoples who have had close relationships with each other for centuries.”

The U.S. didn’t see things that way. It backed the Russophobe western Ukrainian side against the Russophile eastern Ukrainian side. This orientation took hold in the Bush administration, during the democracy promotion blitz that accompanied the Iraq War. And in 2004, the U.S. intervened in a crooked election, helping to sponsor and coordinate the so-called Orange Revolution. But the pivotal moment—the moment when the region began to tip into violence—came in early 2014 under more dubious circumstances.

The previous year, Ukrainian diplomats had negotiated a free trade deal with the European Union that would have cut out Russia. Russia then outbid the EU with its own deal—which included $15 billion in incentives for Ukraine and continued naval basing rights for Russia—and Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovich signed it. U.S.-backed protests broke out in Kiev’s main square, the Maidan, and in cities across the country. According to a speech made at the time by a State Department official, the U.S. had by that time spent $5 billion to influence Ukraine’s politics. And, considering that Ukraine then had a lower per capita income than Cuba, Jamaica, or Namibia, $5 billion could buy a lot of influence. An armory was raided, shootings near the Maidan left dozens of protesters dead, Yanukovich fled the country, and the U.S. played the central role in setting up a successor government.

That the U.S. would meddle with Russia’s vital interests this way created problems almost immediately. Like every Ukrainian government since the end of the Cold War, Yanukovich’s government was corrupt. Unlike many of them, it was legitimately elected, and the U.S. helped to overthrow it.

That was the point when Russia invaded Crimea. “Took over” might be a better description, because there was no loss of life due to the military operation. You can call this a brutal and unprovoked invasion or a reaction to American crowding. We cannot read Putin’s mind. But it would not be evidence of insincerity or insanity if Putin considered the Ukrainian coup—or uprising—a threat. That is what any military historian of the region would have said.

At the turn of the twentieth century, the strategist H.J. Mackinder called the expanse north of the Black Sea the “Geographical Pivot of History.” Zbigniew Brzezinski, who served as Secretary of State in the Carter administration, used the same “pivot” metaphor to describe Ukraine in his post–Cold War book The Grand Chessboard. “Without Ukraine,” Brzezinski wrote, “Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”

The danger to Russia in 2014 was not just the loss of Russia’s largest naval base. It was that that naval base would be acquired by the world’s most sophisticated military power—a power that had shown itself to be Russia’s enemy and that would now sit, with all its weaponry, at Russia’s gateway to the world. When Russians describe Ukrainian membership in NATO as a mortal threat to their country’s survival, they are being sincere.

American and European leaders, although they deplored the Russian occupation of Crimea, seemed to understand that a Russia-controlled Crimea created a more stable equilibrium—and was more to the natives’ liking—than a Ukraine-controlled Crimea. President Obama mostly let sleeping dogs lie. So did President Trump. But they also made large transfers of advanced weaponry and military know-how to Ukraine. As a result, over time, a failed state defended by a ramshackle collection of oligarch-sponsored militias turned into the third-largest army in Europe—right behind Turkey and Russia—with a quarter million men under arms.

Then, on November 10 last year, Secretary of State Antony Blinken signed a “strategic partnership” with Ukraine. It not only committed the U.S. to Ukraine’s full integration into NATO but also stressed Ukraine’s claim to Crimea. This was hubris. Now the Black Sea region’s problems, in all their complexity, risk being thrown into our lap.

Our Problems in Ukraine
When Russia invaded, the U.S. stood by its potential future ally, but without much sense of proportion and seemingly without much attention to the stakes. Let us conclude by discussing the complex military, economic, and political problems we face in dealing with the Ukraine War.

Military Problems
I’m not competent to predict who is going to win this war. But given that Russia is much more powerful than Ukraine—both economically and militarily—the need for U.S. assistance will be immense and indefinite, no matter the war’s outcome. Keeping Ukraine in this war has already come at a high cost in weapons for the U.S. and a high cost in lives for Ukraine.

The U.S. is not just supporting Ukraine. It is fighting a war in Ukraine’s name. From early in the war, we have provided targeting information for drone strikes on Russian generals and missile attacks on Russian ships. Since this summer, the U.S. has been providing Ukraine with M142 HIMARS computer-targeted rocket artillery systems. Ukrainians may still be doing most of the dying, but the U.S. is responsible for most of the damage wrought on Russia’s troops.

This is a war with no natural stopping point. One can easily imagine scenarios in which winning might be more costly than losing. Should the U.S. pursue the war to ultimate victory, taking Crimea and admitting an ambivalent Ukraine into NATO, it will require a Korea-level military buildup to hold the ground taken. It will also change the West. The U.S.—for the first time—will have expanded NATO by conquest, occupying territories (Crimea and parts of eastern Ukraine) that don’t want it there.

Economic Problems
American policymakers have launched an unprecedented type of economic warfare against Russia. They expect it to be just as effective as battlefield warfare, but to generate none of the hard feelings. At American urging, Russia has been cut off from the private-but-universal Brussels-based SWIFT system, which is used for international financial transfers. And the U.S. has frozen the hard currency reserves of the Russian central bank—roughly $284 billion.

Long-term, these actions carry risks for the U.S. Our economic power—particularly the dollar’s status as a reserve currency, which permits us to sustain deficits that would bankrupt others—depends on our carrying out our fiduciary responsibilities to international institutions, remembering that the money we are managing is not ours. If you are a banker who pockets his depositors’ money, those depositors will look for another bank. The danger to the United States is that not only Russia, but also China and India, will set up alternative systems through which to move their money.

Political Problems
Finally, we should have learned from the latter stages of George W. Bush’s administration that it is hard to build a forceful foreign policy on top of a wobbly domestic mandate. This is especially true of the Biden administration, which seems unable to distinguish between domestic policy and foreign policy. At the one-month mark after the Russian invasion, for instance, the White House sent a message in which President Biden proclaimed his commitment to those affected by the Russian invasion—“especially vulnerable populations such as women, children, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and intersex (LGBTQI+) persons, and persons with disabilities.”

President Biden seems to view Russia’s conflict with Ukraine as one of autocracy versus democracy—the same framework he used to describe “MAGA Republicans” in his militaristically choreographed Philadelphia speech in early September.

We should not overestimate how much Americans know or care about Russia and Ukraine. In August, the Pew Center published a study listing the top 15 issues motivating voters in the 2022 elections. Here are those issues in order: the economy, guns, crime, health care, voting rules, education, the Supreme Court, abortion, energy policy, immigration, foreign policy, big government, climate change, race and ethnicity, and the coronavirus. Ukraine doesn’t appear on the list, and generic foreign policy didn’t make the top ten. That doesn’t look like a level of voter buy-in sufficient for running such big economic and military risks.

A dispassionate and honest discussion of Vladimir Putin’s conduct through the years would find much to criticize. Unfortunately, Putin’s name has been dragged into American politics primarily for the purpose of discrediting the presidency of Donald Trump. And the main thing Americans were told about Putin—that he and Trump colluded to steal the 2016 U.S. election—turned out to have no basis in fact. Since then, Congress has become as much an investigative body as a legislative chamber. Should Republicans end up with a majority in one or both houses of Congress next January, it would not be surprising if they investigated the allegation that President Biden’s family enriched itself by trading on his name with corrupt foreign elites—most prominently those in Ukraine.

The largest problem America faces is distrust, both at home and abroad. Thus far the war’s most important world-historical surprise has been the failure of the U.S. to rally a critical mass of what it used to call “the world community” to punish Russia’s contestation of the American-led world order. In the past few decades the U.S. has developed a method of intervention against those it considers ideological adversaries. The U.S. first expresses moral misgivings about a country and then tries to rally other countries to pressure it economically and to isolate it until it relents. This time, India and China did not join us in isolating Russia. It seems they fear that this same machinery can easily be cranked up against them if they’re not careful. And in fact it is being cranked up against China.

Another factor is surely that, after the Iraq War, other countries have less trust in the judgment of the U.S. as to which territories are likely to be suitable candidates for “spreading democracy.”

Finally, the big transformation that has been predicted for a generation now—that power would shift from the U.S. and Europe to Asia and other places—is now measurably underway. In the 1990s, between the Gulf War and the Iraq War, the U.S. and its Western European allies controlled 70 percent of world GDP; that number is now 43 percent. The West still does relatively well, but not so well that it can count on the rest of the world to rally behind it automatically. Whether in victory or defeat, Americans may be about to discover that you cannot run a twentieth century foreign policy with a twenty-first century society.

It’s actually very simple: Putin is a sociopathic despot who invaded a neighboring country and began murdering, bombing, and burning everything in sight. His objective was to expand a new Russian empire and achieve a stranglehold on Europe by dominating energy and grain supplies. He doesn’t doesn’t give a damn how many innocents are slaughtered in the process—including his own people—and will keep trying until he’s either dead, deposed, or beaten into submission.

Let such a predator have its way, and there will be nothing but darkness in our collective futures.

Last edited 2 years ago by Greg

What Putin is doing is what you’re endorsing, and what a GOP-controlled House will allow to continue until he gets all he wants. Kevin McCarthy will pander to Putin and Trump in return for personal power. That’s how the GOP now works.You have helped to make it that way.

Last edited 2 years ago by Greg

No greg. This war happened because you people suddenly ripped your masks off and are trying in vain to take control of the globe.

It’s not going to well for you, is it?

Trump kept Putin in check…and Putin knew our own deep state would do his dirty work by installing a shit-stained puppet dictator.

Now we have a war that didn’t need to happen.

Enjoy it, friend. It’s your fault people are dead in Ukraine.

Last edited 2 years ago by Nathan Blue

It’s actually very simple: Putin is a sociopathic despot who invaded a neighboring country and began murdering, bombing, and burning everything in sight.

Wrong. That narrative is long dead.

This is war is your doing and yours alone.

Own it.

Last edited 2 years ago by Nathan Blue

Yes, Greg. You personally are responsible for the Russia-Ukraine war. You’re a man of endless power. You have so much personal power that I’m actually surprised that Nathan dares mouth off to you.

The demonic force trying to destroy the world is indeed one entity.

Just as it uses greg, and you, as a mouthpiece, we likewise can rebuke it back through those it’s possessed.

Trump surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban; now his GOP minions will surrender Ukraine to Putin.

Why? Because Zelensky wouldn’t cooperate with his political smear campaign. He holds Zelensky personally responsible for his 2020 election loss. He wants revenge, he wants the White House back, and he wants to get back in Putin’s good graces.

Last edited 2 years ago by Greg

Bullshit fuckwad

Bonnhoeffer was correct. Idiots like you, Comrade Greggie, are dangerous. And you come here, day after day, pushing the lies you have been instructed to believe.

Odd, nowhere do you mention your beloved “suburban” women anymore. Remember how you always pointed to how they denounced the Republicans in 2020? How’s that working out for you this year?

Americans are, by and large, good people. But when they have had enough of being lied to and being tromped on, they will fight back. I suggest you buy a VERY large bottle of Jamison for next Tuesday night. You’re gonna need it.

Bonnhoeffer explains the Leftist movement.

Joy Behar is a good example. You people are just too stupid to vote, and easily exploited.

I enjoy watching you meltdown with this naked admission of what you’re doing, the only option left is to say it’s Trump and the Right doing it…

Funny.

The US installed a regime in 2014, that Zelenskyy is a part of. Biden withheld aid and got caught, mostly because he admitted it on camera.

Our illegal deep state then “impeached” Trump as an effort to cover it up, simply accusing him of doing what Biden did in public.

Biden surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban. That is now historical FACT.

No one wants “revenge.” We just want democracy. You’ve stolen that.

Putins action is rational given the intentions of NATO and the US. It is logical to stop the impending movement by NATO and the US as they intend to conduct regime change in Russia.

Propagandists like the fake news and greg would have us think otherwise. History is the best teacher when it comes to geopolitical involvements. I am ashamed that our tax dollars have been used in an immoral way.

This never would have happened under President Trump.

Indeed. This IS, however, part of a plan by the WEF to take over the world.