Moonbeam’s Prop 30 Passed, Now For A Lesson In Reality

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Moonbeam’s Prop 30 Passed, Now For A Lesson In Reality

Proposition #30 was a desperate move by the ubiquitous Governor of California to fund teacher’s pensions while droning on endlessly during commercials on why we can’t desert our children. It is always to save the children; at least we are led to believe if teachers are paid more and receive greater pensions, some of the lowest achieving teachers and students in the country will miraculously improve the educational levels of California.

Moonbeam came by his nickname honestly.

The measure passed and now greater taxes will be paid by a few wealthy people who can’t leave California. New York was caught in this dilemma when they raised taxes on the rich and revenue decreased after the inevitable exodus. France just increased income taxes on the wealthy to 75%, but they are finding far fewer wealthy people so enamored of France that they are willing to give up 75% of their income. Although Socialist Liberalism rarely computes on the balance sheet for the Conservative, the Liberals of France are about to have a rude awakening, for not only do the wealthy leave, they take a substantial portion of the money supply and a good portion of the country’s entrepreneurial expertise with them. Thus the stagnant economy that suffered from government profligacy, but intends to bail itself out for its irresponsible behavior with the money of others, finds itself at an insurmountable obstacle: a population clinging to a sense of entitlement, especially when it concerns the money of others, but without the tax base to support itself.

Standby California, the facts don’t lie, but it is obvious Proposition 30 will be a multiplying factor in this denial of reality by the voters of California and their rather simple minded leaders. But Californians should not stress over the trend; other states will thrive from the benefits of those who will contribute so much to their economies.

THE GREAT CALIFORNIA EXODUS:

For decades after World War II, California was a destination for Americans in search of a better life. In many people’s minds, it was the state with more jobs, more space, more sunlight, and more opportunity. They voted with their feet, and California grew spectacularly (its population increased by 137 percent between 1960 and 2010). However, this golden age of migration into the state is over. For the past two decades, California has been sending more people to other American states than it receives from them. Since 1990, the state has lost nearly 3.4 million residents through this migration.

This study describes the great ongoing California exodus, using data from the Census, the Internal Revenue Service, the state’s Department of Finance, the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and other sources. We map in detail where in California the migrants come from, and where they go when they leave the state. We then analyze the data to determine the likely causes of California’s decline and the lessons that its decline holds for other states.

The data show a pattern of movement over the past decade from California mainly to states in the western and southern U.S.: Texas, Nevada, and Arizona, in that order, are the top magnet states. Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Idaho, and Utah follow. Rounding out the top ten are two southern states: Georgia and South Carolina.

A finer-grained regional analysis reveals that the main current of migration out of California in the past decade has flowed eastward across the Colorado River, reversing the storied passages of the Dust Bowl era. Southern California had about 55 percent of the state’s population in 2000 but accounted for about 65 percent of the net out-migration in the decade that followed. More than 70 percent of the state’s net migration to Texas came from California’s south.

What has caused California’s transformation from a “pull in” to a “push out” state? The data have revealed several crucial drivers. One is chronic economic adversity (in most years, California unemployment is above the national average). Another is density: the Los Angeles and Orange County region now has a population density of 6,999.3 per square mile—well ahead of New York or Chicago. Dense coastal areas are a source of internal migration, as people seek more space in California’s interior, as well as migration to other states. A third factor is state and local governments’ constant fiscal instability, which sends at least two discouraging messages to businesses and individuals. One is that they cannot count on state and local governments to provide essential services—much less, tax breaks or other incentives. Second, chronically out-of-balance budgets can be seen as tax hikes waiting to happen.

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Prop. 30 will raise the sales tax by one penny for every $4 spent for four years, while increasing the income tax on the state’s highest earners for seven years. It would supposedly generate about $6 billion per year in new revenue.

The sales tax hike will go into effect Jan. 1, while the personal income tax increase is retroactive to the beginning of this year.

http://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Prop-30-wins-Prop-38-flames-out-4014648.php#ixzz2BZBXaVp9

There are TWO fundamental flaws in Brown’s reasoning about these taxes.
CA already has a thriving underground economy.
It will become more robust.

And, as you post points out, rich people, even middle class people still have legs.
We can leave.
Good Bye, CA.
I just got my winter-weight down coat and snow boots.
Also a twin condo here just sold for the asking price in less than two weeks!
So, things are starting to happen.
Hubby is ready to shut the doors and just keeping them open for those who he gave long notices to.
Feb is our target date for getting out of Dodge.

@Nan G:

It is sad when such a beautiful state is overshadowed by ugly economic policy that is more of a deterrent than the beauty is an attractant.

NanG Nice to see the Real Estate market bumping up in your Long Beach neighborhood and throughout So.Cal Breaking out your down coat? Good luck with that. Left mine in N.Y.over 40 years ago.
J.G. Yes John, California is a beautiful state. Look forward to attending Larry’s F.A. party about 40 miles north of San Clemente. Maybe you can fly out.

California is gaining at least one new high income resident.

Goes by the name of Mitt Romney.

@Richard Wheeler:

Maybe you can fly out.

Not a chance. You guys may be likable in other aspects, but I won’t step foot in that state on general principle.

@Nan G:
You’re leaving Cali Nan? Where are you moving to?

J.G Indiana— Home of The Colts. The Pacers (loved Reggie) and The Fighting Irish. Gotta love it.

Boehner is putting his hand out this morning.To Obama “WE WANT YOU TO SUCCEED” Obama should grasp it. They both love golf,

@Aqua:
Utah, Aqua.
We did a lot of soul-searching before deciding.
Utah is one beautiful place.
It has some of the nicest people you’ll ever meet, too.

Hopefully as the Tea Party conservatives become more obsolete after the re-election of Barack Obama, so will their use of these absurd nicknames. I guess they’re cute—in a childish sort of way.

@Richard Wheeler:

Home of The Colts. The Pacers (loved Reggie) and The Fighting Irish. Gotta love it.

I don’t like any of those teams, Rich, although the Colts, with Manning gone now, are beginning to grow a little on me. I’m originally from Illinois, so I like the Cubs, Bears, and Bulls. Michigan is my college team because of their interest in me for wrestling when I was in school. Barring a dislocated elbow, I might’ve ended up there too.

We’ll see if Obama grasps the olive branch, or turns it away with a sword of words. My guess is the latter, as he hasn’t shown any willingness to work “across the aisle” in true, compromising fashion.

@Liberal1 (Objectivity):

Hopefully as the Tea Party conservatives become more obsolete after the re-election of Barack Obama, so will their use of these absurd nicknames.

Your rhetoric was old before you first posted it on here. In the other topics. Maybe you could tell us what you believe the TEA party is all about. Then we might have a real discussion on politics, instead of you continuing a narration on them based nowhere close to the truth.

U-Haul bases their rates on two things: distance and if they will have to return the rental back to the original place it was rented. It costs more to move to more popular locations and less to move to less popular locations. Their prices are based on moving demographics.

Cost to rent a 20′ truck that holds 3 bedrooms of furniture:

Austin to L.A – $678.00

L.A. to Austin – $1,464.00

The natives are fleeing the jungle.

Nan G
good luck in you’re new move,
be careful not to hurt yourself on packing and unpacking,
best to both of you.

@Nan G:
Good for you. I hope you guys the best. Utah is a very pretty place. Too cold and dry for me, but definitely pretty.

@Liberal1 (Objectivity): They are also smart and work for a living. That’s why they are called Tea Party Patriots and that’s why they helped Republicans take back the House in historic fashion in 2010.

@NanG..Best of luck to you! I’m Sorry circumstances – such as terrible state Govt policies are making you move…but, yes Utah IS a beautiful state…I am quite sure you will find a different kind of peace and tranquility there.

We are considering moving out of what is becoming a Blue hell hole ourselves…LOL!!

@Nan G: Oh, yeah, you’ll love it there. I came so close to moving there myself, but then I stayed over one winter. Nah, I’ve had enough of that fluffy white stuff!

This could be a boon to the unemployed in the Las Vegas valley as more companies relocate there from California.

What is Liberals ( objectivity) talking about? I can’t find any references to childish nicknames.

If he’s referring to the TEA Party, he may not know that the word”TEA” stands for taxed enough already.

Helene
I LOVE THE EXPLANATION OF THE WORD ,
I’m sure not many like me figured it,
and it fit perfectly,
thank you

@Liberal1 (Subjectivity):
Well, you are the local expert on being childish.

In Prop 30’s defense, CA’s public schools are terrible.
Voters had the wool pulled over their eyes in a lot of areas, like Obama as well as in Prop 30.
I mean, apparently not many read the fine print.

This Prop’s cash goes MOSTLY to propping up and plumping up the teachers’ union pension fund.
It won’t be helping improve classroom quality that much.

Looking at the passage of Prop 30 from a homeowners’ and taxpayers’ viewpoint this marks a watershed moment for CA.
The days of Prop 13 being respected are almost at an end.

My beachfront condo (sure it is only 630 square feet) cost me only $250/year in property taxes.
At the height of the housing bubble a twin condo was appraised so high its’ buyer paid over $2,500/year in property tax.
When Prop 13 goes down EVERYBODY is assessed at the going rate rather then based on what they personally paid.

So, it is time to go.
I love the snow, but have long had to drive up to be in it.
Hehe.

PS, to all who commented about my up-coming relocation: thank you for all your positive thoughts.