This is news? I think this is not news.
Here’s a headline on the fair and balanced Yahoo, from the HuffPo:
Trump Finally Admits His Campaign Colluded With Russia At Trump Tower Meeting
Oh? He admitted he “colluded”? Sort of like Hillary Clinton colluded with Russia by paying off KGB (well, FSB) agents for Putin-approved dirt on Trump?
And then there’s the Cap’n, tryin’ to make it happ’n:
In addition to all the other things that one could say about this admission of attempted collusion and attempted coverup, I’m struck by Trump’s claim—insisted on since the story first broke—that “it went nowhere.” I wonder if that’s also not true? https://t.co/NoLMNZMxKo
— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) August 5, 2018
Let’s compare this to, oh, 14 months of Democrats, the media, and NeverTrumpers (BIRM x3) claiming the “walls are closing in on Trump.”
Opposition research is not illegal, no money exchanged hands no information exchanged hands when the democrats set up a Russian operative to go to Trump Tower. Grasping at illegal straws much?
Deplorable me. Say, does anyone else have to enter their name and email every time they post?
Unless I am some mystic seer, I seem to recall that the original reporting was that these people contacted Trump Jr. stating they had campaign dirt on Hillary and when they met, it was revealed they actually wanted to talk about the Magnitski Act and the meeting was ended. NOW it’s some kind of explosive revelation that this is exactly what happened?
Who knows? There was so much real, factual, negative information about Hillary that it would be impossible to tell if anything was actually fed to Trump. After all, whoever had the capability to hack had access to Hillary’s secret, private, unsecured server with all her State Department emails available, so who can tell?
Yet, the FACT we know that Hillary PAID a foreign agent to get information from OTHER foreign (Russian) agents is pretended to have never happened? Not only did Hillary collude with the Russians, but so did the FBI who also used that information (false as it was) to concoct the motive for the ongoing, never ending, pointless “investigation” of Trump.
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Yes I do
so what?
@an ol exJarhead: I was just wondering. It used to retain my name and email.
Deplorable
It stopped for me what seems like a Lon time ago.
But I can still kibitz. My Name changes as I mis type
It does get mad at me when my address works NOT
“Opposition research” secretly provided to a presidential campaign organization without charge by a foreign power is definitely a bit of a problem, whether or not a quid pro quo element was involved.
@Greg:
How is that a problem? Actually, PAYING for it is the problem, as this gives the provider the incentive to make crap up (which is what happened) when there is nothing there.
Who is the “foreign power”? These were two individuals who set up a meeting for one thing, then changed the purpose of the meeting to something else. No “foreign power” and no information received.
Now, Hillary paid a British agent to pay Russian agents to dig up dirt on Trump, which when they were unable to do so, they simply made it up (or took reports on Bill Clinton and changed the name to Trump) but you don’t have any problem with that whatsoever. Is that about it?
@Deplorable me, #7:
Without payment, such “opposition research” becomes a campaign contribution, illegal under 52 U.S. Code § 30121 (a)(2).
That’s not the only problem. Since no monetary payment was involved, a question arises concerning the motive of the foreign party offering the assistance. What was expected in return?
@Deplorable me: Never fails, when Greg is dead wrong he pulls up an old post.
@Greg: It would merely have to be declared as such. Yet, here was no “contribution”, was there? And, if anyone decided to prosecute that, they are going to have to prosecute Twitter, Facebook, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC for THEIR campaign contributions. But, since we have yet to see big, fat, sweaty Rosie O’Donnell for her illegal campaign contributions (as the DOJ was so ready and anxious to pounce on Dinesh D’Souza), there doesn’t seem to be much of an appetite for it.
Twitter, Facebook, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and MSNBC are not foreign entities. They don’t belong to foreign nationals.
@Greg:
But they are ongoing contributors to the Democrat party.
So, now it’s foreign nationals? Before it was “foreign powers”. Again, Hillary PAID a foreign national to go to the Russians and PAY them for false information, so be careful what you want to deem “illegal”.
@Greg: Twitter is Arab owned Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud, owns more shares than Jack.
@kitt: The left is desperately seeking that silver bullet that is going to undo the fact that they ran a terrible candidate.
@Deplorable me: They are horrified someone went to Washington to do what he said he was going to do in his campaign. Now like Godzilla he is stamping out everything the spent so long to ruin.
This is interesting A certain Senator says she didn’t know she had a spy in her hire http://articles.latimes.com/1997-03-28/news/mn-430… She has some previous connections
@kitt: Feinstein says her long term spy/driver never learned anything of any value. This is the same Feinstein that once blurted out that there was a secret military base in Pakistan we were using to fight the Taliban and al Qaeda. So, we can all be assured Diane never let anything slip to her “aide”.
But, then again, the Democrats wanted a President that left classified information laying around everywhere just so she could have the ability to evade FOIA requests.
@Deplorable me, #12:
Right. That’s precisely what would make an offer and acceptance of free “opposition research” from Russian sources a violation of 52 U.S. Code § 30121 (a)(2).
Fusion GPS’s research services were paid for. Hence, they were not an illegal campaign contribution—or illegal in any other way, so far as anyone has discovered.
The Steele Dossier allegations. At this point in time some have been confirmed, while none have been disproved.
Hindsight is 20/20; it’s unfortunate that the document wasn’t released before the election. The fact that it wasn’t pretty much blows any assertion that there was a “deep state” conspiracy to keep Trump out of the White House totally out of the water—because releasing the document could easily have done so.
@Greg: The dossier was widely circulated in the press in the fall of 2016, they could’nt verify any of it, to avoid getting sued off the planet none of them released it.
@kitt: They also couldn’t use it widely and extensively because of all we are talking about now… they got it from the Russians. When trying to prove your opponent, then vanquisher, was colluding with the Russians to win, it would not be helpful to the cause to have it revealed that THEY were colluding with the Russians to alter the course of the election.
@Greg:
Yeah, it’s all per the regulations and squeaky clean… that’s why they LIED about who funded it until the evidence was exposed. Hillary used Russians for political dirt that proved to be false (Russian interference?). Trump did not get anything from any Russians. Clearly, Trump was the colluder… right? Isn’t that how liberal-think works?
Try this on. Hillary, through Fusion GPS, set up the meeting to entrap the Trump team into offering help with the Magnitsky problem in exchange for promised dirt. It failed to produce the desired results, but the machine decided to use it anyway in order to support Hillary’s “Russia” attack narrative.
@Deplorable me, #20:
Correct. It was in no way unlawful for the DNC and Clinton campaign to pick up the tab for continuing opposition research. In retrospect, given the tactics being used against them, they were entirely justified in doing so.
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Representative Chris Collins—the first Congressional republican to endorse Trump’s candidacy—has just been indicted with others on a 13-count charge of securities fraud.
Look what happened the last time they kept quiet until after an election. Maybe they’ve reevaluated their policy.
@Greg: Susan Brooks. Republican. IN-5. is the chair of the ethics committee, looks like we are trying to keep our house clean, even if they are Trump supporters.
You keep repeatin it was Republican opposition research which was debunked loooong ago.
Fusion GPS was initially hired to conduct opposition research by The Washington Free Beacon. They discontinued funding when it became clear that Trump would be the republican nominee. The DNC and Clinton campaign then picked up the tab from that point on.
Nothing in the Russia dossier has yet been disproved; some allegations appear to have been confirmed. Steele, who likely has a good sense of the reliability of his sources, estimated the information to be 70-90 percent accurate.
@Greg: Wheres the proof, If I give you a beer and tell you it is 10 to 30% urine will you drink it? Thats what you accept from the dossier. By the way the other 70 to 90% comes from a brewry that draws its water from the sewage plant.
@Greg:
Oh, no, really. I understand. When liberals employ foreign nationals to go buy political dirt from Russians, that’s totally OK and legal because, well, it’s liberals and THEY were the first to think of accusing Trump of doing the same thing (another case of knowing what the Democrats are doing by what they accuse the Republicans of). Yeah, really… I see how that’s different and OK.
See, here is what you Democrats have done to the justice system; this utterly stinks. See that line that is repeated in every headline this story appears? “He was the first Republican to support Trump”. THAT’S what this is about; more vindictive punishment and persecution of anyone that supported Trump. Sending a message… like Obama did with the IRS.
I can only imagine the angst they felt, making this decision. Republicans don’t get “investigations” swept under the rug. That benefit is reserved for liberals.
We’ll see. Smells like Alabama to me.
Carter Page was the Genesis Russian colluder… a “Russian agent”. Why hasn’t he even been CHARGED with anything?