By Bonchie
As RedState reported, another state has “removed” Donald Trump from the ballot following accusations of violating the 14th Amendment. I put the word “removed” in quotes for a reason, which I’ll get to in a moment, but in the aftermath, the Maine Secretary of State behind the move is getting destroyed.
I’ll start with a more official-sounding condemnation from Sen. Thom Tillis before we get to the less kind responses.
The full post reads:
Maine’s Democrat Secretary of State just removed Trump from the ballot. This is an egregious abuse of power and why I will be introducing the Constitutional Election Integrity Act as soon as Congress returns to session to stop these partisan officials and ensure any constitutional challenge is only decided by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Tillis is correct in saying it’s an egregious abuse of power. It’s so broad and so arbitrary on the legal merits that if allowed to stand, Republican officials would have more than enough cause to remove Joe Biden from the ballot in their states. Again, that’s a clue on what’s really going on here.
Naturally, Shenna Bellows, the secretary of state in question, had previously stumped for “voting rights” and demanded that others be allowed to vote for who they want.
What a hashtag. https://t.co/s6s68brlnb
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) December 29, 2023
This is Shenna Bellows, the Maine Secretary of State who just removed Trump from the ballot.
She said the right of every American to vote freely and fairly is the premise of our democracy.
By her own standards, she is the real threat to our democracy! pic.twitter.com/V66SWbVxUC
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) December 29, 2023
You see, voting is a “fundamental right,” according to Bellows, unless we are talking about the right to vote for a presidential candidate she holds an inherent hatred of. In that case, it’s fine to spit on the democratic process and strip that person from the ballot based on nothing more than feelings and twisted legal reasoning.
Once again, an AWFL has decided to play authoritarian for the “greater good.” They know best, and you don’t dare suggest otherwise, you fascist.
https://twitter.com/assliken/status/1740540338056335414?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1740540338056335414%7Ctwgr%5E0393d00149b60cf48a73d2594be2d99c22e3b2a7%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fredstate.com%2Fbonchie%2F2023%2F12%2F28%2Fmaine-secretary-of-state-gets-destroyed-after-trump-ballot-decision-n2168052
So why did I put “removed” in quotes at the beginning of this piece? I did so because it’s obvious what’s actually going on here. Just as with the Colorado Supreme Court ruling removing Trump from the ballot, Bellows stayed her own decision (meaning it doesn’t go into effect), giving the final say to the U.S. Supreme Court.
What does that tell you? It tells you that none of these cheap stunts are meant to succeed technically. It’s essentially a foregone conclusion that the U.S. Supreme Court will not only keep the stays in place, but they will ultimately rule against the states trying to use the 14th Amendment without any due process to bar Trump from the ballot.
In the end, Bellows doesn’t believe she’ll win. She just wants her name in lights while setting up the U.S. Supreme Court to play the bad guy for half the country.
Quite an ugly leftist.
She violated the due process clause of the 14th Amendment while using section three of the same amendment to remove Trump for insurrection for which he has not been charged or convicted.
Maine Republicans threaten to impeach secretary of state for kicking Trump off the ballot
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/maine-republicans-threaten-impeach-secretary-state-court-battle-trump
This ruling vacates the rule of law. The dingbat cites commentary about J6 insurrection but avoids the fact the President Trump has not been charged or convicted of insurrection.
She bastardized section three of the fourteen amendment while ignoring the due process clause.
The 14th Amendment requires no conviction. Those banned from office after the Civil War were not tried and convicted.
Yes it does. You are not guilty of committing a crime until you are CONVICTED of committing the crime. Up until then, it is a suspicion. Hell, you don’t even have an INSURRECTION, how can you have someone guilty of instigating it?
Exactly.
Shortly after the ratification of the 14th Amendment, Congress passed legislation that would allow prosecution of insurrection.
Excellent. Then there’s a basis not only for banning Trump from office, but for prosecuting him as well.
“I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
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Compare and contrast?
He tried to execute his duties by assuring Democrat election fraud did not overturn an election. When election fraud is deciding elections, all rules, regulations and articles, even those found in the Constitution ARE terminated.
Democrats are fascists. There is no denying the truth.
There was no “massive & widespread fraud & deception” except for Trump’s. For that, there’s “massive & widespread” EVIDENCE.
STATE FARM ARENA
for starters.
You’ve been pushing the State Farm Arena thing for three years now. Nobody gives a shit.
Well, I know those like you and Greg don’t because you approve of election fraud. However, as this was the first major incident of blatant election fraud on the evening of November 3rd, 2020, I see no point in addressing all the examples until this one is explained.
But, there is but one explanation: Democrat election fraud.
The 25th Amendment about Impeachment Clinton and Obama committed Treason which you’ll not see in the New York Times since that leftists rag has covered up for the enemy for years
Then give up. It will never change.
So, any state AG can kick any candidate off of any ballot for any reason. Good to know.
The 14th Amendment requires no conviction.
biden has committed insurrection. How ridiculous a statement.
Except if the country is a lawless banana republic.
Nope. Such a candidate has to have previously broken their oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Trump no only tried to overturn an election with a fraudulent elector plot and a mob—he has publicly stated all laws and regulations—even those found in the Constitution, must sometimes be disregarded.
Fake news
The mob’s siege of the Capitol was televised, Dilbert. So were the January 6 Committee hearings.
Oh yeah. President Trump was not leading the unarmed insurrection. That would have been the FBI director.
The j6 hearings produced zip, zero, nada
Let me correct myself. I forgot about Cassidy Hutchings compelling testimony about how President Trump was strangling the beast driver trying to get to the Capitol to lead the insurrection.
Oh but then when the book came out she had to revise and extend her testimony because it was nothing more than a fabrication.
Why did benny thompson destroy so much of the evidence accumulated by the unconstitutional j6!select committee?
What B.S. of the illegality showing’s of the Biden administration . Even Hitler’s SS kept documents to obfuscate the tragic reasoning’s of their so called justified murders !! Biden’s minions are falling & burning liken unto the German Zeppelin of 1908 . Cause by their continual lying and cover-ups .
What a guy; he can whip the asses of two USSS agents at the same time, and drive a car!
What a guy!!
How thankful we must be as Americans. Without the unconstitutional select J6 committee we never would have known of President Trump super human skills.
One word ,,,,,CUTE : ] .
Not everyone is crazy.
No, just whiny, crybaby, sore loser leftists.
Your so lame that your don;t even understand when your receiving an insult . From someone else comments . Obama would describe your type of intellect as no more than inept Knuckle-dragger . You should be ashamed of yourself .
There was no “siege”. There was a peaceful protest that the Capital police turned into a riot by firing on a peaceful crowd.
Then maybe they just should have complied. Isn’t that what we’re always hearing from the Right?
Complied with what? Capital Police opened fire on them for no reason. There was no warning, no prior declaration that the area, which the FBI operatives had removed the barricades from, was restricted.
We saw tons of video of police trying to stop insurrectionists from proceeding any further into the Capitol, with the insurrectionists then simply shaking their heads and elbowing the cops out of the way. They could have complied there, for example.
Tons? How much is a “ton” of digital data? Sounds like a lot. What we saw was Capital Police opening doors and letting peaceful protesters in to walk around taking selfies.
…And “peacefully” smearing their feces on the wall, and “peacefully” stealing things from legislators’ offices, and “peacefully” refusing to stay out of areas in the Capitol that the police were telling them to stay out of, and “peacefully” crushing that cop in the doors, and “peacefully” beating cops with flagpoles.
Oi! So much peace!
Don’t forget setting a police department on fire with the police officers still in it.
Oh, wait, that was BLM and Antifa.
Remember, groomer, the videos you saw were the ones the J6 Committee wanted you to see. Everyone knows left wingers are idiots.
And? They wanted us to see the bad stuff that happened, and we did. It happened, regardless of who showed the videos.
They wanted you to see the parts that the operatives manipulated. They didn’t want you to see the peaceful protest or the officers opening locked doors, ushering in protesters or even guiding them around the building. Note that when the suppressed video was released, one of your more famous cases, Jacob Chansley was released, shown NOT to have been violent. The suppressed video showed the Capital Police opening fire with gas and grenades on a peaceful crowd. It also shows officers brutally beating protesters. So, in order to manipulate the weak minds of the stupid and prejudiced, they only released selected video (with a phony, fabricated sound track) for propaganda purposes.
Seems to have worked as they desired.
All peaceful until Capital Police fired on the peaceful crowd. A riot instigated by Democrats and the FBI. It’s documented and confirmed by witnesses.
Oh, and only leftists use their own shit as a weapon. I think they even eat it. How does it taste?
Oh that siege where when the mob taking over the USA leaves politely when asked, that siege?
Greg get help.
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Yes part of the footage they hid from you so you would suck the koolaid.
Rules for Radicals ; Always blame someone of a differences of opinion , for the exact issues and narrative for what you’re doing wrong . Greg; if your a real human ? Your in dire need of a brain transplant . I dust my shoes off from any more of your non-sense and leave with a ta-ta .
12/29/23 – Suddenly, Trump Is Interested in Democracy – As Maine throws him off the ballot, the president who betrayed democracy is now pleading for its protections.
Trump defended and respected the Constitution. Democrats shit on and ignore it.
Greg the Stupid
Crown him with many crowns. :] Stupid is as stupid does,…king-greg . The essence of a madman like King George of London .
This person is a lunatic.
https://x.com/Th_Midwesterner/status/1740775939683029139?s=20
What she says makes sense, totally and completely.
She bellows but says nothing but leftist, whiny propaganda. She doesn’t have the authority to keep Trump off the ballot just because she’s a butt-hurt bitch.
Here is gregs take. From one raving lunatic to another.
Greg on Maine Secretary of State Gets Destroyed After Removing Trump From the Ballot: “What she says makes sense, totally and completely. https://twitter.com/Th_Midwesterner/status/1740775939683029139”
Dec 29, 13:35
What she says makes sense, totally and completely.
Yeah, to people like him, who don’t mind seeing the Constitution trashed in order to destroy someone they hate simply because they hate, this makes sense.
America doesn’t survive from Philosophies & whims . Only by the Constitutional Laws . Which this bellowing wind bag called Bellows , seems NOT to recognize as authority .
“We need to organize to make sure we have better leaders in positions of power to fight back against [election sabotage],” Bellows said before admitting that far-left organizations like the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) are working to bar Trump from the ballot.
The tenacles of the fascistic Deep State reaches far and wide to do everything in its power in order to maintain power. The most recent example is the radical dimms using their power and influence to deny the voters to opportunity to vote for their favorite candidate.
Yes, that’s what she said. There’s no contradiction. Trump brazenly tried to steal an election by unconstitutional means.
What do you think the phony elector plot was all about? What don’t you understand about phony elector credentials, fraudulently submitted? They knew damn well it was illegal.
File under F*CK THE GOP: Maine GOP state lawmaker moves to impeach state secretary over Trump ballot removal
Oh, look… Greg complaining about a lawful, constitutional process. I guess it’d be OK if they just “decided” she was no longer AG?
So sure she,like the Colorado loons, put a stay on the order, just another attention seeking C.
Women like her sure put a stink on C.
Just goes to prove about you , Greg ,…you really don’t have any original thoughts . But to your credit though ,…your vocabulary is clock full of vulgarity . What people of a better demeanor ? Would call TRASH TALK . Man, your looking smaller and smaller everyday .
Comrade Greggie, you really need mental health help. You keep up this TDS and you are going to blow your own brains out.
Stop believing the crap put out by those like a Secretary of State that clearly doesn’t understand not only her own state’s laws but the originality of Art. II, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution.
Perhaps laws schools, like the radically leftist Harvard, should make Constitutional law a requirement. Now, law students don’t even take it most of the time. But hey, you’ll buy the stupidity of a ill informed, uneducated Secretary of State who was an election in 2000 and headed an ACLU office for 8 years. Maine is getting dumber and dumber. Maybe that’s why intelligent people are fleeing it as fast as they can.
Retired 05 ; I’m beginning to believe Greg is a non-human , Maybe a Bot or a AI impostor. Like you said any human with this much of an emotional disorder could be suicidal . The drugs wouldn’t help him . Maybe make him worse . He wouldn’t be first .
Mr. Jeffrey, Comrade Greggie has been spreading his b/s on this site for a long time. But he is a chameleon. His color changes with the wind, as it does with all left wingers. For years, he railed against the war in Iran and Afghanistan, the military industrial complex and the out of control spending on the part of the government.
Now he supports giving billions of $$ to the grifter Zelenskyy, never mentions the military industrial complex, seemingly approves of the invasion on our southern border and truly believes Joe Biden is coherent. And like most left wingers, he is a hater; he hates Trump, any other Republican, hates Russia (although totally unaware of the cause of the Ukraine/Russia issue), would personally kill every unborn baby he could get his hands on if he could, hates Christianity.
No, he’s not AI. He’s way too stupid to be AI.
She’s as much a delusional liar as the rest of you. You can look for it until the cows come home, but you’ll never find an insurrection that Trump was involved in nor an insurrection that occurred at the Capital on January 6th. What you have is a totally failed Democrat party that puts absolute power above all else, including due process and the Constitution. Your party is comprised of frightened crybabies that can’t take responsibility for their own action.
Do you understand that phony credentials were fraudulently filed for 81 fake electors from 7 states as part of a White House orchestrated plot?
That the January 6 mob was fired up and sent off to the Capitol to stop a constitutional process, so that the fake electors could come into play?
There’s NO QUESTION about what happened. If Pence hadn’t refused, the lying son-of-a-bitch you worship would have stolen the election he claims his opponent attempted to steal.
Trump’s fake electors: Here’s the full list
I don’t think it’s that you don’t understand. I think it’s that Trump’s followers DON’T CARE. Their professed concern for democracy, for the rule of law, and for the Constitution is complete bullshit.
They want him back, no matter what it takes.
There were no “phony” electors. There was no “insurrection”. Furthermore, the 2020 election was decided by Democrat election fraud.
Democrats and the left hate the Constitution and the United States. Everything they do is an effort to destroy them.
Really? 12/06/23 – Nevada grand jury indicts six Republicans who falsely certified that Trump won the state in 2020 –
They broke both state and federal laws—all but one group, which put Kenneth Chesebro on the spot by asking him point blank if what they were doing was legal. When he acknowledged that it probably wasn’t, they added a declaration that their votes were to be counted only if the courts upheld challenges to their state vote counts.
No court did. Not one. All court challenges failed in every state.
More Democrat abuse of the judicial system. You know what else broke state and federal laws? Democrat’s election fraud, by the bushel load.
Be more descriptive Greg ,..What is your personal thought of what an ” elector plot ” is ? See if you can accumulate enough electrons scattered in your head to formulate your cause of your decipherable ability it’s meanings ? Not,…some else’s narrative . Prove your worth !
12/29/23 – GOP rep warns House has final say over election after states deem Trump ineligible for ballots –
They might imagine that they do. If they try to go there, they may quickly discover they don’t have a final say over anything. The rule of law is all that gives them their power.
What resolution?
117TH Congress 2d Session, H. RES. 1125, condemning rising antisemitism.
Well, what do you know… it DOES promote censorship.
When Democrats declare they can just keep a strong candidate they fear off ballots without any lawful authority, then anyone can do anything. If you want law and order, you might first try respecting the law and Constitution.
U.S. Constitution, Amd XIV, Section 5, you f*cking moron.
Republicans don’t get to pick and choose which parts of the Constitution they do or don’t follow as Trump’s convenience requires.
Democrats don’t get to pick and choose who is on ballots for the opposing party. After all, this isn’t the DNC convention.
I suppose we’ll see whether or not you’re correct.
I am unless you can show me the law that says they can.
Every one of the 50 states has at some point disqualified a potential candidate from appearing on its ballots.
Give me one example where any single person disqualified a candidate for no valid reason but just a personal bias.
09/06/22 – Judge removes Griffin from office for engaging in the January 6 insurrection –
Again, an arbitrary one-man decision to commit an illegal act. There was no insurrection so there could be no insurrectionists. FOOL!
Sure the Democrats tossed Lincoln, he still won. Proud of that one?
greg is in panic mode.
I’m not the one squawking like a chicken and firing off insults and expletives.
After over a decade of your b/s lies on this website, your mere presence here is an insult to any logical thinking person, right or left.
Amd. XIV, Section 5 is unequivocal.
Has it escaped your notice that the House is not the entirety of Congress?
And I said it was where, f*cking moron?
You were unaware of Section 5 until I brought it up.
Just because you are a Constitutional illiterate doesn’t mean everyone is. Now, go back to pleasuring yourself.
What exactly were you trying to say? Did it have anything at all to do with Massie’s “dire warning”?
You do understand that he’s threatening to attempt to overturn yet another election, don’t you? Or did you somehow miss that?
I was quite clear. Your reading comprehension deficit is your problem.
Nope.
Nope. Unlike you I don’t read into something that isn’t there.
Like you missed Section 5?
Massie is stating a GOP majority House could simply disregard electors selected in accordance with the legal election processes of each state, and accept the votes of others that give the GOP the outcome they want.
That’s the threat he’s making with regard to Jan. 6, 2025. It would be nothing less than the end of democracy and the republic, and the installation of an authoritarian leader.
Section 5? I have no clue what you’re rattling on about. Probably you don’t either.
There’s a lot you don’t have a clue about.
No doubt. But I understand what Massie is saying well enough.
No, apparently you don’t. Not a clue.
No, you’re just the one supporting fascism.
Greg, do you hear squawking? yes we toss out insults, when you read the comments you attach a certain emotion or voices to them?
Dude these are opinions, all any of us can do is vote, you really seem to be deeply emotionally vested.
Maybe because its the 6th day of Christmas, but its 6 geese not chickens thats day 3.
Maybe you need to remember none of the people in DC GAF about anyone, they dont care about anything but their next big insider trading financial score.
Now it would help if you kept to the subject, the batshit crazy feminist that thinks she has the power to alter the presidential election of the entire country. SOS Bellows is a good name she sure is blowing alot of air fanning flames getting press, but her career may just be ended. She isnt an elected official, perhaps she should stay in her lane.
In total crybaby mode. Every unconstitutional parlor trick they throw at Trump fails. In fact, the obvious anti-American persecution only makes Trump stronger and more popular and formidable. Of COURSE he is crying.
Nothing has failed, Dilbert. The trials haven’t even begun yet.
They are collapsing around your very crybaby ears.
What would he be panicking about?
Numerous lawfare strategies are failing.
The Audacity of Shenna Bellows
Ten years ago, I wrote a column for the Bangor Daily News (back when it ran actual news) entitled “The Audacity of Shenna Bellows.” At the time, she was the Democratic Party’s sacrificial lamb running for Susan Collins’ seat in the U.S. Senate and had gone to some lengths to misrepresent the centrist Republican senator’s position on abortion rights. In her decision today, by fiat, to declare Donald Trump ineligible to be on Maine’s ballot in the coming year’s presidential election, Bellows has — in essence — said to herself, the state, and the nation: “hold my beer.”
When Bellows held an eight-hour hearing last week on this question, most political observers assumed she was just posturing. But emboldened by the state of Colorado’s recent move to strike Trump from the ballot on the grounds he is ineligible because of the insurrection clause in the 14th Amendment, Bellows has made a kamikaze dive for the national klieg lights like a star-struck moth to the flame. While some on the left will call her move courageous, sensible Mainers are burying their faces in our palms at this moment. She has embarrassed us, to put it mildly.
I’ve never been a big Trump fan. This may surprise some given the fact I had to eat a felony charge in the Russia-gate imbroglio of 2017-19, but it’s a simple fact. Still, having spent a good chunk of my career promoting democracy overseas, I must say it’s stunning to see it so subverted in my own home state.
In order to be an insurrectionist, one must be convicted. Special Counsel Jack Smith may have charged Trump, and it may be true that in our lopsided courts of criminal justice in this country, prosecutors enjoy a ridiculous success ratio. But special counsels have proven to be the exception to this rule. My old pal Robert Mueller famously failed to prove Trump was installed in the White House by Russian subterfuge, despite every possible media advantage. And John Durham failed to convict two Hillary Clinton operatives of lying to the FBI about the matter despite abundant evidence they did. It is beginning to look like the U.S. Department of Justice should call the office of special counsel the house of broken toys.
Thankfully in this country, one remains presumed innocent until twelve jurors conclude otherwise. And what that simply means is that Bellows has jumped the shark — if not for the first time, than in the most glaring instance of her vaunted career.
Where is that written in the Constitution or the law?
There are no laws in the Constitution. That is basic civics 101. Leftists abhor the Constitution.
And where does it say that one leftist non-attorney AG bitch can decide to kick the front-running candidate off of a ballot?
It’s called “due process”. See, there actually WAS a Civil War, but there never was an “insurrection” on January 6th, unless you want to count the coup attempted by Pelosi, Bowser, the FBI and the Capital Police. Without an actual insurrection, you’ll need to convict Trump of an insurrection that actually happened.
That is, of course, if you happen to have any respect whatsoever for the Constitution and due process. But, you don’t, do you? All that stands in the way of your fascist desires, doesn’t it?
From Hassan v. Colorado, 09/04/2012 :
The above opinion was written and entered by Judge Neil M. Gorsuch
No insurrection, no insurrectionist. Case closed.
There’s a reason Trump asked the SCOTUS to delay a ruling on whether he can be prosecuted. He’ll want a delayed ruling on whether a state can bump him off the ballot, too.
When he goes to trial, he’ll be found guilty. If the court rules on the states’ right to disqualify him, they’ll support the states’ right.
Meanwhile, your side of the aisle protests against Israel and supports the terrorist organization, Hamas.
I guess those left wing morons don’t realize that it is illegal to give support to a terrorist organization. But don’t worry, Jake Sullivan isn’t going to do anything to them nor is Merrick Garland. That’s their voting base. So they will ignore our laws enacted after 9/11 and pretend that everything is great.
Meanwhile, Joey Brain Dead is off again on another vacation at another wealthy friends multi million $$ house. But hey, let’s rail on Clarence Thomas because he has wealthy friends. My, my, how the yapping about Justice Thomas ended quickly when a left wing justice has issues.
So every time you rag on Trump, I am going to point out the corruption of your lying party. Wanna talk about Hunter, James and Joseph Biden, Comrade?
Biden has provided aid to Israel despite the worse than useless MAGA morons in the House gridlocking assistance. He’s done the same for Ukraine.
Biden administration again bypasses Congress for weapons sale to Israel
Biden hasn’t done shite, moron. Biden doesn’t even know what day it is. He’s pumped full of drugs like Aracept when Sullivan needs Biden to appear in public and then hopes Biden doesn’t wander off. He’s president because your side cheats and Dr. Jill wants to be First Lady when she should be in jail for elder abuse.
So Sullivan, and Blinken, decide to “sell”, NOT GIVE, arms to Israel when they claim Biden has given Ukraine billions of $$ while Zelenskyy is the biggest grifter on Earth.
Meanwhile, your side continues to protest Israel and support Hamas. And don’t give me any crap about Palestine. There is no such place. It’s Gaza, and the Gazans support Hamas. Just like you support the radicals in this country.
You are a stupid, stupid person.
I should care what you think?
No, you should f**k off as far off as you can possibly go and take your fascism and anti-Semitism with you.
All Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden has to do to secure the aid is secure our border. Note that, since election fraud put him in office, the situation on the southern border has gotten WORSE every year. Every month, a new (bad) record of incompetence is established. The equivalence of two military divisions cross the border every day and that is getting worse, too.
California, New Mexico, Arizona, Texas and Florida should all kick Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden or any other Democrat candidate that does not denounce the current dereliction of duty on the border and pledge to reenact all of Trump’s measures, including the border wall, off their ballots. Because AG’s and courts of those states can make that call.
The illegal alien invasion will be a top 2024 election issue right behind the economy that biden has intentionally destroyed.
Bless his little heart, greg must be so proud of this biden accomplishment.
Flooding the nation with illegal immigrants is their goal.
Next month will be even worse.
He asked for the ruling, not for it to be delayed. Maybe, if this case is so important and vital, it should have been brought sooner instead of only when Trump appeared so strong in the campaign that it would take MASSIVE voter fraud to overcome, so lawfare needed to be employed.
If and when he is found guilty, it will be appealed until it gets to a non-DNC court and overturned. There is no shred nor sign of merit in the case.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/bombshells-belie-big-lie-21-confirmed-illegalities-irregularities-2020
Of course. All it takes to confirm the Democrat election fraud is to finally get a judge that is not a leftist ideologue or coward (or both) to allow a case to be heard.
Every state should have a Gableman, GA needs one desperately, Fulton County what a nightmare. Our so called elections committee needs to be disbanded, for years they have been telling clerks to break laws. Fulton County doesnt seem to know that there are rules and laws to be followed.
TRUMP IS TOXIC.
You need President Trump as your President if you want this country to return to normal.
Trump’s reelection would be the end of all normalcy—even the things you like and take for granted. He’s a wrecking ball.
Consider the chaos he’s already creating. I don’t want a “May they rot in hell! Merry Christmas!” a-hole leading the nation. I don’t care whether he’s evil or crazy. Same difference.
No, Comrade Greggie, you would prefer to have a puppet who, along with his entire family, brings disgrace to our nation.
You’re an useful idiot.
You have nothing useful to say to me. I have nothing further to say to you.
Comrade Greggie, cowardice on full display.
Fuck off, troll. You’re a waste of my time.
your next post:
You can’t even stick to your own statements so obviously, I’m not a waste of your time.
Maybe I should bookmark this so when you whine about being insulted I can remind you what a coward you are, and have been for at least a decade.
OK, now you can go back to pleasuring yourself.
Or do you get some fan of Dylan Mulvany to do that for you? Is Michael your buttbuddy?
Bless gregs little heart. Compliments to you for really getting under his skin.
They really fear Trump using the same tactics as they did against them, and the trump voters voters, turned on themselves.
I say if we want our country back, we actually run it the way it should be, not a revenge fest.
Obama and Hillary need to pay back the treasury the money spent on the Russian Hoax.
Fauchi and the Scarf wench need to answer for the murderous rampage. Stripped of all unearned benefits.
Our “intelligence Agencies curbed , the Patriot act purged, etc.
Nah, you prefer the “If you don’t support me, you ain’t black, if you don’t support me and my ruinous policies, you are semi-fascist” asshole that forced his young daughter to shower with him.
Normalcy? geeze I thought normal was having a President that could form a basic sentence.
Biden isn’t the issue. Trump is the issue. The GOP should put forward a rational alternative to Biden.
What grade do you give biden?
Why is Biden not the issue?
Because Biden isn’t a vengeful lunatic who has openly stated he can ignore all rules, laws, regulations—even those in the Constitution. Because Biden wouldn’t become the unwitting tool of armed far-right extremists eager to slip the leash.
The GOP could win with a rational candidate. Trump isn’t about the GOP winning. Trump is only about Trump. The GOP is just the horse he stole.
So you are 100% behind biden?
I’m 100% behind anyone who can keep Trump out of the White House, and who understands that compromise on both sides is essential to deal with our problems.
RFK jr?
RFK is unelectable. It isn’t clear whether he’d take more votes away from Biden or Trump.
Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden is a corrupt, vengeful, cowardly piece of shit.
Fantasy land you are in an alternate universe created by fear mongering morons.
I think Biden is doing a good job under extraordinarily difficult national and world circumstances. The presidency has become a high-wire act without a net. One slip and we’re all f**ked, but the GOP is shaking the wire. They did the same with Clinton and with Obama, but the danger now is MUCH greater. All they care about is hanging on to power when their presumptive candidate isn’t competent to wield it.
If Putin prevails, there will be hell to pay. If the war in Gaza spreads, there will be hell to pay. If budget compromises aren’t made including both tax increases and spending cuts, there will be hell to pay. If corporations aren’t rationally regulated to rein in greed, there will be hell to pay.
Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden CREATED the disasters and he is doing an absolutely terrible job of mitigating the disasters HE created. A person would have to be a completely blind idiot not to see the reality.
You can’t be serious.
I AM serious. One slip and catastrophe ensues—with the Middle East, with Russia, with China, with North Korea, with Iran. That’s Biden’s tightrope walk. He made none of these problems, but he’s had to deal with them.
bidens tightrope walk?
He can’t even walk up a flight of stairs to an airplane, or walk off of a stage or ride a bike. You are a moron.
Now this;
Because biden is weak and compromised.
Had to be something he heard on a cable opinion show.
They swung Trump on a rope for his entire Presidency yet he made historic peace deals, no new wars broke out, it almost looked like the end of the Korean war. Illegal crossings were at historic lows, he didnt beg Mexico, he told them this is what we want and this is what will happen if you do not assist.
What historic peace deals are you referring to? The surrender to the Taliban? The historic peace deal between Israel and the Islamic world? The reining in of Iran or North Korea? The containment of Putin? I’m not seeing it.
Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden IS the issue. He is a total and absolute disastrous failure and, knowing he hasn’t a snowball’s chance in hell of ever winning a fair election, he is abusing every power he can get his withered fingers on to bring lawfare to bear on Trump. Trump is an honest and capable leader compared to the incompetent, racist, failed, corrupt, treasonous pedophile, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden.
Oh yes Biden is a huge issue everything he has touched as been destroyed.
That’s just something you say. In fact, he’s pushed back Putin without triggering war with Russia, and backed Israel without triggering open war with Iran. His administration has brought inflation under control and dodged a recession that many said was inevitable. He’s avoided government shutdowns that would have done enormous unnecessary damage to the economy. He’s resisted rollbacks of environmental protections. All of this against ENORMOUS resistance and incessant attacks.
He has not pushed Putin back.
Inflation is out of control
The face value of the national debt is above 34 trillion.
Where have you been, under a rock?
Inflation is down from 7.11% last year to 3.14%. I filled up my gas tank for $2.66/gal earlier this week.
Trump has no 2024 platform but retribution, a government purge of all who oppose him, a claim he can end the war in 24 hours with a phone call, hints that he’ll deploy troops within the US, “Drill Baby Drill” when US gas and oil production are already at record levels, and a claim that he’s going to somehow round up and deport all undocumented aliens and end birthright citizenship. Oh yeah—and he’s once again going to end the Affordable Care Act and replace it with something wonderful—details to come later.
Unlike Biden, Trump can walk on water and fly by flapping his arms.
You’d think that after eight years of saying that same thing he—or anybody in his camp—would have come up with something by now.
Apparently, you are unfamiliar with how Congress works. Odd, for a “teacher”.
Trump himself has said many, many times that he was going to present a healthcare plan and set Congress to work on getting it passed. He started saying that while he was running for his only term in office. The details were always “two weeks” in the future.
Presidents often present the big vision for a new initiative in either a speech or a press conference. But you know that. You just want to look stupid, for some reason.
And, he did. It was voted on and lost, by one vote. McCain’s vote.
Wow! Drive inflation up to over 7%, then celebrate when if falls to half that! Jack gas prices up $3, then cheer when it come down $1.50! Yet, they have learned no lessons, admit no mistakes and, once the election is over, will again drive the economy into the shitter.
All Trump has to do is kick Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden’s wrinkled ass out of the White House, shitcan all his policies and put the policies that worked, which Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden reversed, back in operation. It ain’t rocket science, scooter.
There. Fixed it.
A world of pure delusion.
The same leftist threat from 2016.
It’s the same MAGA candidate.
And the same terroristic threats of chaos, disruption and violence from the left.
What grade would you give came-la as border czar?
About the same grade I’d give republicans for putting forward any actual workable solutions.
The solution is to put all of Trump’s policies back in place and replace Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden with Trump.
What has she done?
Why did mayorkas lie to the American people when he said the border was closed?
He lied to congress we should see his house surrounded by several swat teams and a CNN crew any minute now.
Toxic to anti-American, anti-Constitution leftist fascists. That’s who oppose him.
She hasn’t not been destroyed, though the predictable death threats from Trump trolls have been coming in.
Oh, you mean like the death threats against the Colorado justices… that aren’t? Bullshit, as usual.
Oh, but she got “swatted”. Do you think it’s as funny when it happens to her as when it happens the MTG?
If former presidents were immune from prosecution, sitting presidents could commit any criminal act to retain office without fear of consequence.
Biden could simply order that Trump be shot, and then pardon the trigger man.
Anyone who thinks the Supreme Court is going grant presidents such license is crazy. Trump will be granted no such blanket immunity.
Trump knows this. That’s why he’s trying to delay the case. It’s also why the Appeals Court will quickly bump it up to the Supreme Court.
No doubt, that is already on the table. Everything else is failing. But, this would only affect Democrats, as they are who is corrupt and it would take all these lawfare weapons out of their hands.
Trump is trying to have the totally and obviously bogus cases THROWN OUT, not delayed.
This is sick thinking. Curt, IMHO this needs to be addressed on this forum. We here are better than this and allowing this type of virulent commenting is a disservice to those of us who may from time to time get amped up but have never suggested killing anyone.
I attribute this to the TDS that has infected the brain of greg. I am thoroughly disgusted by his suggestion and call on you to take some sort of action.
The left is deranged and this type of incivility has been suggested by non other than the husband of victoria nuland, a guy by the name of kagan.
I didn’t take Greg’s comment as a direct threat, though it has to be acknowledged that the threat exists and the left would be pleased. They view murder as a viable means of communication and there is no doubt that there are those on the left thinking along these lines.
You need to address the fact that finding former presidents immune from prosecution would grant license to do ANYTHING to retain office. THAT WOULD BE THE LOGICAL OUTCOME. It would grant such license the current president, and to every future president. We would have tyrants, not presidents.
When the Democrats control the DoJ and use it as their own little GESTAPO, then for all practical purposes, the Democrats can and have commit any crime they want with immunity. Just look at how Hunter skated on numerous serious crimes, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden’s theft of classified documents, influence peddling, money laundering and extortion, Pelosi’s insider trading, Obama’s illegal spying, Hillary’s mishandling of classified information and perjury, Comey’s perjury, Brennan’s perjury, Clapper’s perjury, Mayorkas’ perjury, Wray’s perjury… the list simply goes on and on.
You’re ignoring the fact that immunity from prosecution would allow presidents to do ANYTHING to retain office.
But, when Democrats break laws and violate the Constitution with impunity, what does it matter? THAT is my first concern.
Currently, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden IS doing ANYTHING to retain office, and it’s mostly illegal and unconstitutional, yet you cheer it on.
So you’d be OK with the SCOTUS decreeing that former presidents are totally immune to criminal prosecution when Biden is in office, or when any other Democratic president is in office?
Seems they already are it was Obama that began the phoney Cross fire hurricane, he sold guns to mexican cartels, droned American citizens abroad, funded Irans nuclear program, armed terrorists, Bengahzi, libya, coup in Ukraine, ect, ect
Trump was president for four years. Why didn’t he do anything?
Trump tried to get the Crossfire Hurricane documents released. He declassified them and took them with him, which is why he is being prosecuted. Whenever he went against the AG or FBI director, YOU ALL called him a “dictator”. The DoJ and FBI protects themselves relentlessly and will attack and destroy anyone that tries to clean it up.
But it appears no one but Trump is interested in doing the cleaning. YOU certainly aren’t.
As I’ve said every time, I am NOT. But the bigger problem is Democrats abusing the system to effectively make themselves immune from all accountability. Why don’t you oppose what is actually happening first, then worry about hypotheticals?
You are ignoring the fact that they can be impeached.
The constitution has this covered relax.
McConnell announced Trump would be found not guilty before the Senate trial. How effective was that?
Impeachment is political. The only penalty is removal from office. Suppose a President ordered all of his political enemies rounded up and shot. The worse penalty would be to remove him from office—assuming there were enough political enemies left to do so.
If a former president can’t be criminally prosecuted, that scenario becomes a real possibility. Basically, the only remedy people would be left with is assassination.
You live in a paranoid fantasy, stop listening to the talking heads they are not your friends.
That’s logic, not paranoid fantasy or talking head gibberish. That would be the logical consequence of total immunity from prosecution. A president could do ANYTHING to retain office without fear of consequences.
Would you want the SCOTUS to give that license to Biden? They’ll be deciding before January 2025, you know.
It does not sound like logic ,rounding up people like Biden is. Im sure when they get a trial it will be lethal injection.
It is perfectly logical—a very simple if/then conditional proposition: IF former presidents are immune from prosecution for anything they do while in office, THEN they can do anything they want to retain office without fear of prosecution.
They could lie, cheat, steal, or even murder. They could disregard “all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” to remain in office.
However, IF we elect the President, as opposed to simply installing them through election fraud as Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden was installed, THEN you don’t get the corrupt, treasonous pedophiles that have been stealing from the public for 50 years.
Seems thats exactly what Obama did.
That’s what I keep saying; Greg is whining about a hypothetical while his party has been doing it for years.
It isn’t hypothetical. It’s precisely what Trump asserts the Supreme Court should rule. If reelected, he would then be free to to ANYTHING he wished, untouchable for any past or future crimes.
It would be like giving absolute power to an angry toddler.
This should be mandatory reading: 11/30/23 – A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending.
Clicked, saw “Washington Post” and clicked off. NOTHING the WaPo prints should even be read, much less mandatory. The only dictatorship is the Democrat totalitarian police state we are living under now, and it is getting worse day by day.
How many times does it take for you to be lied to before you finally start to get some hint of a clue?
Of course you stopped at that point. You’ve been conditioned to reject all media sources that don’t echo Trumpian doctrine. That’s where the comparison with a cult comes in. Objectivity is dead. Nothing contradicting doctrinal points will even be considered. Evidence has ceased to matter. Logic or any lack thereof is irrelevant.
You should understand that the things said aren’t intended for those who will never change their minds. They’re for the consideration of people who think and draw their own conclusions.
No, it’s just that when a source had been CONFIRMED to be lying propaganda, as WaPo definitely has, a source lightning quick to print an anti-right or anti-American story without verification while it suppresses ANY news damaging to the left, a source that serves the left, a source that hates America, then I won’t waste time on them and CERTAINLY would not consider them “must read”.
What “evidence” do they have that Trump will suddenly, after relentlessly respecting and protecting the Constitution, become a “dictator”, particularly as they totally ignore all the dictatorial and totalitarian behavior of Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden and the DNC?
It IS hypothetical. What Trump is asking a ruling on is that he can’t be charged with a crime for carrying out the official duties of the Presidency, not that he has carte blanc to commit crimes, as the Democrats currently do.
He already has it, given to him by Garland. He doesn’t need immunity, if the DoJ will not even INVESTIGATE, he is immune already.
Democrats are a criminal operation.
“He already has it, given to him by Garland.”
Okay, Professor. But do you *like* it? Is it a practice which you’d like to continue? If there’s ever another MAGA president, would you still like Biden to be immune from prosecution for any crime he committed as president?
“He doesn’t need immunity, if the DoJ will not even INVESTIGATE, he is immune already.”
Okay. But Biden won’t be president forever. Do you want him to be immune from prosecution if, say, Trump were to be elected again?
No, peckerhead, I DON’T like it. Perhaps you are the only dumbass around that it hasn’t been made clear to. Bitching about this imaginary “dictatorship” of Trump and some farcical crime spree is stupid when we have a “President” and his entire family using the government as it’s personal ATM.
You need a personal assistant to guide you and point out when you are being stupid so you embarrass yourself here less frequently.
biden has been the closest thing to a dicier have ever had. President Trump respects the office and would not violate his oath.
And if/when Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden is impeached for the crimes the House already has evidence on, can you predict the Senate will find him not guilty? I can. He isn’t even being held accountable for crimes committed BEFORE being President… like stealing classified documents, for instance. That is pretty cut and dried, yet… nothing.
You are pretend-worried about hypotheticals and penalties for made-up crimes that never happened while REAL crimes are going unpunished because the Democrats control the process.
Hey what about all those people Trump shot on 5th avenue and we still support him.
The vaxx damage is real with Greg he is a paranoid, he gets it fed through his “experts” on TV and the loon sites he gets his info from.
Mike is just an ignoramus with a degree polluting the minds of children, with a phobia of people with faith also fed by “liberal” garbage.
I’ve interacted with “people of faith” for my whole life. I’ve gone to school with them; I’ve worked with them; I’ve been evangelized by them; I’ve been warned by them; I’ve even spent time going to church as an adult. I’ve studied religion for years for my job.
I’ve come by my contempt fair and square.
How so? Contempt for who, groomer?
If you’re not going to keep up, don’t try to take part in the discussion .