Did last weeks powerful Solar Flares Change Earth’s Climate more then first thought?

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Last week we had exceptional Heat and Flood reports from all over the world and at the same time the Sun went into overdrive with some very powerful Solar Flares. This Solar episode coincided during the same time frame as the Piers Corbyn “Extended Full Moon” period.

This late and higher then normal burst of activity from the Sun was from the 6th to the 9th July. This period was scheduled to be at an R3 level and end on the 7th – 8th July but it was far more powerful and lasted longer as you can see in the above chart.

The Sun was more active then the original forecast made by Piers, and what has followed thereafter is an unusual situation, in that, there is now a Hurricane “powering up” outside the original “R” period, indicating that there was a much higher level of solar influence then just an “R3” going on.

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Of course it’s possible, as solar radiation output is consistently variable. High solar flare activity means higher solar radiation levels which can result in higher temperatures being radiated to the planetary bodies. However, when the increased flare activity subsides, the slightly higher absorbed energy will eventually dissipate and the planetary temperatures will stabilize. We know that the solar temperatures fluctuate, rising and dropping and usually also cycling through longer periods. (Resulting in warm periods and ice-ages.) It is also possible that after the flare-ups subside, the solar radiation levels are just as likely to drop slightly, which could result in a cooler fall. We have spacecraft in orbit constantly monitoring solar radiation.

But, this occurrence does not negate the existence of global warming (climate change), as ultra-conservatives would have everyone believe.

@Liberal1 (objectivity):
True, but only because there is no proof of man-made climate change. Climate change is better know as seasonal weather. You know, hot in the summer, cold in the winter.
If you don’t believe that big ball of fire that rises every morning in the east and sets every evening in the west has anything to do with the climate, the boys at CERN beg to differ.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100102296/sun-causes-climate-change-shock/
And the left claims they are the ones all into science.

@Liberal1 (objectivity):
Hey, Liberal ones:
Have you ever (you collectively, not you personally, L1) explained what caused the ends of all those previous ice ages before we had hair spray and air conditioners and SUVs?
And also, have you (all) ever explained WHY you think THIS temperature right now, this century, is the best of all possible temperatures for earth throughout all of its history?

Come on LIB1 say what you really want to say, “It’s those damn humans living on the sun that are causing these flare ups.”

@Aqua:Non scientific people do not realize you can not prove a negative! Liberal1 believes that CO2 causes warming when all of the energy to heat the earth comes from the sun. There are very many studies that have been peer reviewed and accepted that the sun is responsible for all warming of the earth. The sky will always be falling for the liberal1s in this world!

Increased atmospheric CO2 levels result in more of the Sun’s radiant energy being retained within the Earth’s biosphere, whatever the level of solar radiant energy might be.

Another significant cause of man-made global warming is the enormous volume of hot air blown off by the political right since Obama was elected.

@Liberal1 (objectivity):

But, this occurrence does not negate the existence of global warming (climate change

You do understand that none of the AGW scientists have proven AGW exists, right? And when their most celebrated scientists have been proven to be liars and shysters, and their most famous spokesperson has been shown to be a blowhard set to make BILLIONS if carbon credits become part of environmental law, that doubt is the first thing to enter an objective person’s mind?

Those who choke down the crap the AGW crowd shovels are hardly objective, thinking, persons. And since you have been parroting and cheering on AGW here, what does that make you?

@johngalt:

The left believes in science that serves the long-term interests of humanity. The right believes in propaganda that serves the short-term interests of profiteers.

@Jason: Prove it! No one else has. Climate models are not proof!

@Jason: So, Colorado forests are burning because the left shut down the roads that allowed thinning of dead trees. The left stopped the foresters from managing the forests for animals and diversity. The left talks big and many jump on their idealistic band wagon. But I believe when 3.5 million acres of Colorado forests are reduced to cinders for over 100 years due to lefty philosophies, tell me please how those lefties served humanity or any other being on Earth. The lefties always fail to think any of their actions through. That is why the always experience unintended consequences. You are a true lefty Jason.
Look at all of the lefty unintended consequences we all must live with: Hope and change = more poverty and fewer jobs. The war on poverty = the highest percentage of families dependent on the government in our history. Restriction of gun rights = highest murder rates in states with restricted gun ownership. I could go on and on, but I have a 14 hour work day tomorrow and I do not suffer fools like you when I am tired!

@Jason: How about all the hot air blown out Barry’s ass as he fly’s all over the place? Or Moochelles for that matter! How about all the hot air from everyone of your Marxist heroes, Pelosi, Boxer, Waters, Franks, Waxman, Reid ……….. Right there is enough to raise the sea level 2 feet, toss in your hot air and the methane from your BS and Washington DC is under water.

AGW (aka-“man-made climate change”) theory is junk science. True science relies only on proven, substantiated facts, not “consensus” via dishonest political agenda motivated environmental-extremists and faulty models pre-designed to create a “hockey-stick” graph regardless of what numerical data is inserted.

Come on guys, just because Jason believes in Global Climate Warming Change (or whatever they’re calling it these days) doesn’t mean he is an empty-headed, short-sighted, brain-dead liberal…

Wait.

Never mind.

Problem is Ditto, most of the Liberal side wants to treat that Theory as a Law in Science and that is a sign of a disturbed mind that tosses away the notion of constant testing of a theory to prove it’s a Law… but hey, Liberals keep slamming the Conservative side as not, “understanding” science when the Liberals toss away the Scientific Testing Methods and go right to cooking up fake data to make false connections to fit an agenda…

And for you Liberals like Liberal1, H2o (water if you can’t follow along) is a thermal insulating gas in its vapor form while CO2 is an inert non-thermal gas. When you decrease the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere you increase the amount of Oxygen content. Currently standing the current air you breath is broken down to this rougly to:

78.08% Nitrogen
20.95% Oxygen (This is an important insulating gas and can fuel fires…)
0.93% Argon gas
.03% CO2 (non-thermal byproduct exhaled by carbon based life, needed for plant photosynthesis.)
0.002% Neon gas.

From fossil records of various insect species, the oxygen content millions of years ago was much higher, roughly in the 35 to 40 percent range to allow much more aggressive species sizes to evolve and fit to the enviroment. Some species got to about 2 feet long, such as the extinct Meganeura due to how rich the atmosphere was in oxygen content. Also, due to the fern fosils connected to the Meganeura there’s an assumption that the average global temperatures for that extinct Species’ era was about 20 degrees higher than what we’re feeling now.

But hey, keep thinking that .03 percent of the atmosphere will cause those changes in climate when our Planet sits in a radioactive soup of x-rays, gamma rays, infrared rays, microwaves and exposed to magnetic storms and various Solar flares from Sol (our sun if you can’t figure out why it’s called Solar System) and the fact the arm of the Milky Way our system rests in will be soaked by comsic radiation as the arm is itself rotating to boot.

And that’s not even talking about the geo-thermal activity that has happened with the planet before the Industrial age. There’s the Little Ice Age and piror to that a major heat wave when there was no major Industry producing Co2. So hmm…

@Jason:

The right believes in propaganda that serves the short-term interests of profiteers.

Oh, you mean like Al Gore making a propagandized movie in order to line his pockets and pushing for a carbon credit “cap and trade” law whereby carbon credits are traded like stocks and he stands to make billions the moment such a law is passed?

Except Gore is a liberal/progressive, so that blows your statement out of the water.

@Jason:

The left believes in science that serves the long-term interests of humanity. The right believes in propaganda that serves the short-term interests of profiteers.

Science is science, period. There is no such thing as science that serves long-term interests of anything, there can only be science. It is either true, or it isn’t. The search for the truth is what science is all about. The search for something that backs up your political ideology is not science.
The CERN experiments disproved every theory Michael Mann and his cohorts posited. Not only that, the CERN experiments were done using the scientific method so others in the field would be able to duplicate their findings and peer review those findings in toto. That is how science works.

@Randy:
And the CERN experiments went into the solar activity and the affects that activity has on cosmic rays. It is a pretty good read.

Oh, boy!
Tree-rings prove climate was WARMER in Roman and Medieval times than it is now – and world has been cooling for 2,000 years

Measurements stretching back to 138BC prove that the Earth is slowly cooling due to changes in the distance between the Earth and the sun.

The finding may force scientists to rethink current theories of the impact of global warming.

It is the first time that researchers have been able to accurately measure trends in global temperature over the last two millennia.

Over that time, the world has been getting cooler – and previous estimates, used as the basis for current climate science, are wrong.

The whole thing is a good read.

Too bad, Jason, Lib1, and your ilk.
Base your beliefs on blind faith and this sort of thing (reality) often rises up and bites your face off.

Jason’s #9 post proves what I and a few psychiatrists have been saying about the left. What drives them is narcissism and the pathological denial of reality.
You see how he claims that his side, and by extension him, are all that is wonderful and benevolent?
The obvious and ample hatred he displays, is narcissistic rage that we would dare tell him he’s wrong. Cloaking his “religion” in the psuedo-moral high ground allows him to justify his rage, bigotry, and elitism. You see, because we oppose him, the wonderful one, we are evil and therefore it’s ok to treat us any way he sees fit.
As for denial of reality, we see how he not only erases from his mind the contradictory lifestyle of those pushing his religion, but how they have set themselves up to reap massive profits should they get their way. He even projects those qualities onto Republicans.
Liberalism really is a mental illness.