Democracy? Egypt and the U.S. Face Reality

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This is not looking good.

According to this report in The Wall Street Journal, the secular, pro-democracy movement in Egypt received a beat-down by the Egyptian military and ordinary Egyptian citizens who are increasingly backing the Army and Islamist groups like The Muslim Brotherhood.

CAIRO—Mobs of ordinary Egyptians joined with soldiers to drive pro-democracy protesters from their encampment in Tahrir Square here Monday, showing how far the uprising’s early heroes have fallen in the eyes of the public.

Six months after young, liberal activists helped lead the popular movement that ousted President Hosni Mubarak, the hard core of these protesters was forcibly dispersed by the troops. Some Egyptians lined the street to applaud the army. Others ganged up on the activists as they retreated from the square that has come to symbolize the Arab Spring.

Squeezed between an assertive military and the country’s resurgent Islamist movement, many Internet-savvy, pro-democracy activists are finding it increasingly hard to remain relevant in a post-revolutionary Egypt that is struggling to overcome an economic crisis and restore law and order.

As if this is not bad enough the Muslim Brotherhood used this occasion to demonstrate its muscles, gathering “hundreds of thousands” to Tahrir Square a few days before:

Monday’s turmoil in Tahrir followed a massive Friday demonstration on the same square by hundreds of thousands of Islamists, who called for transforming Egypt into an Islamic state—and railed against the liberal and secular youths who had helped motivate millions to rise up against Mr. Mubarak.

The Islamists’ numbers dwarfed those of the activists who have re-occupied Cairo’s central square since July 8, criticizing the slow pace of reforms, calling for police accountability and pressing for speedier trials of Mr. Mubarak and his associates. The Tahrir sit-in was organized by the April 6 Movement, one of the uprising’s main planners, other youth groups and relatives of protesters killed in the weeks before Mr. Mubarak’s ouster on Feb. 11.

The repercussions of an Islamist Egypt could hardly be worse.  Besides the obvious threat to Israel, there is every chance that Egypt could align itself closely with the increasingly Islamist Turkey and join what appears to be the makings of an Islamist Bloc including not just Turkey, but Syria, Lebanon, Iran and Gaza.

The timing could hardly be worse for U.S. interests.  Under the just-completed debt ceiling legislation, defense spending could be slashed with dire consequences for U.S. force-projection capabilities.  Compounding this is the ongoing refusal of the Obama Administration to take the choke-hold off of oil and gas leasing approvals, resulting in an increasing shortage of domestic production and ever-greater dependence on foreign oil.  Add to this the growing influence of China and Russia in the Middle East and the U.S. is facing the prospect of having very little influence in this critical part of the world at a time when we need it most.

Perhaps worst of all, the WSJ piece ends on a note that reverberates right here in the United States:

Unlike in previous skirmishes, the activists interviewed Monday didn’t allege to be the victims of thugs paid by the government.

“The people were beating us and helping the army,” said protester Mahmoud Abdallah, catching his breath in a side street off Tahrir as an army truck hauled away detainees. “The people don’t know what is good for them. They don’t have any awareness. They just want to make money.”

As he spoke, Tareq Shawky, a 42-year-old toilet equipment vendor, interrupted the conversation. He said he had heard about the army moving against the protesters, and drove to the square so he could help dismantle the encampment.

“The Egyptian citizen wants only two things—security and low prices,” Mr. Shawky shouted. “The millions of Egyptians will do anything that the army tells us to do.”

This is the bottom line, isn’t it?

When Government-provided security and subsidies become the paramount concern of citizens, then democracy no longer exists.  There are no, real limits on Government under this mindset.

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People think that, because the Egyptians have cell phones and computers, that they are modern, mentally.
But they are not.
It was AFTER 9-11-01 that a rumor spread via cell phone that any man in Egypt who either shook hands with OR borrowed a comb from an ”infidel” would suffer the disappearance of his manhood!
The mass hysteria went on for weeks!
Doctors were visited and assured these ”men” that their manhood was still where it had been, but the hysterical men refused to believe even their own doctors, even when shown in a mirror!

So, too, today.
We are dealing with babies in many respects.
But these babies will kill you when they have a tantrum.
One baby is a lawyer who is alleging that Mubarak died in 2004 or 2005 and has been replaced with an imposter as part of a ”Zionist Plot.”

This lawyer has managed to whip up large crowds of other babies.
This resulted in the army and their supporters battling these folks and a few deaths.

It is going to be a long trial.
Will Obama say anything one way or the other?

I have no idea if this is true or not.
But, if it is, it will soon be illegal to be critical of Islam in the United States of America.

International Islamic News Agency, August 1

The U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had announced the intention of the U.S. State Department to organize a coordination meeting during her participation in the meeting which she co-chaired with the OIC Secretary General, Professor Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu in Istanbul on 15 July 2011.
The meeting issued a joint statement emphasizing the dire need for the implementation of U.N. resolution 16/18.

According to informed sources in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation, the two sides will hold a number of specialized meetings of experts in law and religion in order to finalize the legal aspect on how to better implement the UN resolution.

The sources said that the upcoming meetings aim at developing a legal basis for the UN Human Rights Council’s resolution which help in enacting domestic laws for the countries involved in the issue, as well as formulating international laws preventing inciting hatred resulting from the continued defamation of religions.
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If it is true, others in the West have seen through this tactic in the past, blocking the OIC’s quest for a “legally binding institutional instrument” with which to prosecute speech deemed offensive to Islam, and blocking resolutions against “religious defamation” at the UN. The language is vague, but the purpose is specific.

This time, Hillary Clinton and the EU have fallen for the OIC’s game.

Clinton discussed how to build on a UN Human Rights Council resolution passed on March 24 that calls for promoting tolerance and respect for diversity of beliefs, without restricting legitimate free speech.

OIC Secretary-General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu said there was a delicate balance between freedom of expression and incendiary speech….

“In confronting the Danish cartoons and the Dutch film ‘Fitna’, we sent a clear message to the West regarding the red lines that should not be crossed.
As we speak, the official West and its public opinion are all now well-aware of the sensitivities of these issues.
They have also started to look seriously into the question of freedom of expression from the perspective of its inherent responsibility, which should not be overlooked.” — Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, Secretary General of the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference

Pakistan will ask the European Union countries to amend laws regarding freedom of expression in order to prevent offensive incidents such as the printing of blasphemous caricatures of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) and the production of an anti-Islam film by a Dutch legislator…”— Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, Secretary General of the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference

yes the HILARY’S OBAMA’S DEMOCRATS DID IT ALL TO OUST MUBARACK and now to participate with
the UN , TO SUPPRESS THE FREE SPEACH IN AMERICA,
LOOK AT THE RESULT OF THE BROTHERHOOD’S WORK IN EGYPT NOW.
that is the darkness that HOBBITS MUST DEAL WITH NOW,