Congress’s 1/6 Committee Claims Absolute Power as it Investigates Citizens With No Judicial Limits

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by Glenn Greenwald

In its ongoing attempt to investigate and gather information about private U.S. citizens, the Congressional 1/6 Committee is claiming virtually absolute powers that not even the FBI or other law enforcement agencies enjoy. Indeed, lawyers for the committee have been explicitly arguing that nothing proscribes or limits their authority to obtain data regarding whichever citizens they target and, even more radically, that the checks imposed on the FBI (such as the requirement to obtain judicial authorization for secret subpoenas) do not apply to the committee.

 

As we have previously reported and as civil liberties groups have warned, there are serious constitutional doubts about the existence of the committee itself. Under the Constitution and McCarthy-era Supreme Court cases interpreting it, the power to investigate crimes lies with the executive branch, supervised by the judiciary, and not with Congress. Congress does have the power to conduct investigations, but that power is limited to two narrow categories: 1) when doing so is designed to assist in its law-making duties (e.g., directing executives of oil companies to testify when considering new environmental laws) and 2) in order to exert oversight over the executive branch.

What Congress is barred from doing, as two McCarthy-era Supreme Court cases ruled, is exactly what the 1/6 committee is now doing: conducting a separate, parallel criminal investigation in order to uncover political crimes committed by private citizens. Such powers are dangerous precisely because Congress’s investigative powers are not subject to the same safeguards as the FBI and other law enforcement agencies. And just as was true of the 1950s House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) that prompted those Supreme Court rulings, the 1/6 committee is not confining its invasive investigative activities to executive branch officials or even citizens who engaged in violence or other illegality on January 6, but instead is investigating anyone and everyone who exercised their Constitutional rights to express views about and organize protests over their belief that the 2020 presidential election contained fraud. Indeed, the committee’s initial targets appear to be taken from the list of those who applied for protest permits in Washington: a perfectly legal, indeed constitutionally protected, act.

 

This abuse of power is not merely abstract. The Congressional 1/6 Committee has been secretly obtaining private information about American citizens en masse: telephone records, email logs, internet and browsing history, and banking transactions. And it has done so without any limitations or safeguards: no judicial oversight, no need for warrants, no legal limitations of any kind.

 

Indeed, the committee has been purposely attempting to prevent citizens who are the targets of their investigative orders to have any opportunity to contest the legality of this behavior in court. As we reported in October, the committee sent dozens if not hundreds of subpoenas to telecom companies demanding a wide range of email and other internet records, and — without any legal basis — requested that those companies not only turn over those documents but refrain from notifying their own customers of the request. If the companies were unwilling to comply with this “request,” then the committee requested that they either contact the committee directly or just disregard the request — in other words, the last thing they wanted was to enable one of their targets to learn that they were being investigated because that would enable them to seek a judicial ruling about the legality of the committee’s actions.

 
But now the committee is escalating its aggressive investigative actions. They have begun sending subpoenas to private banks, demanding the banking records of private citizens, and doing so such that either the person never finds out or finds out too late to obtain a judicial order about the legality of the committee’s behavior. In one case, they targeted JP Morgan with these subpoenas while knowing that that bank is being represented by former Obama Attorney General Loretta Lynch; Lynch — unsurprisingly — then directed her client not to accommodate any requests from its own customers to ensure then can seek judicial review.
 
On November 22, the 1/6 Committee served a subpoena on Taylor Budowich — a former spokesman for the Trump campaign who never worked for the U.S. Government — that requested a wide range of documents as well as his deposition testimony. On December 14, Budowich voluntarily complied by handing over a large amount of his personal records, and then, on December 22, he flew to Washington at his own expense and submitted to questioning. There is no suggestion that Budowich was engaged in any violence or other illegal acts at the Capitol on January 6. Their only interest in this private citizen is his connection to the Trump campaign and his stated view that he believed the 2020 election was marred by fraud.
 
After he furnished the committee with those documents and then testified, Budowich learned from others that the committee was issuing subpoenas directly to the banks used by other individuals for their personal accounts. He thus requested that his lawyer notify his own bank, JPMorgan Chase, that he would object to their cooperation with any subpoena without first providing notice to him so that he can have time to seek a legal ruling in court.
 
Typically, citizens learn when law enforcement agencies such as the FBI serve subpoenas to third-party providers such as banks or internet companies. That allows a crucial right: to contest the legality of the action in court before the documents are supplied. But when such a subpoena is concealed from the person, it prevents them from obtaining judicial review. In general, citizens learn of FBI subpoenas, and the FBI (with rare exceptions) has the power to impose a “gag order” or otherwise prevent the person from learning about it only if they first persuade a court that such an extreme measure is warranted (by arguing, for instance, that a terror suspect will flee or destroy evidence if they learn they are being investigated). That safeguard ensures that in most cases, a citizen has the right to seek judicial protection from an illegal act by an investigative body.
 
But the 1/6 Committee recognizes no right of any kind and no limits on its power. On November 23 — the day after it served a subpoena on Budowich himself — it served a subpoena on Budowich’s bank, JPMorgan. The original date for the bank to produce the records was December 7, but JPMorgan — advised by Loretta Lynch as its legal counsel — bizarrely requested that the deadline be extended until December 24: the day before Christmas, knowing that courts would be closed that day and the next. It was only on December 21 — when Budowich was in Washington for his testimony before the committee — did JPMorgan send him notice at his home that it had received a subpoena and intended to produce the requested documents on December 24: just three days later. As JPMorgan and Lynch knew would happen, Budowich did not see the letter until he arrived home on the evening of December 22: less than forty-eight hours before the bank told him they were going to give up all of his financial records to the committee.
 

Upon discovering that the committee had subpoenaed his bank, Budowich’s lawyers immediately advised JPMorgan that they had legal objections to the subpoena, and requested that — given it was about to be Christmas Eve and the courts would be closed — the bank seek an extension from the committee to enable Budowich to seek a judicial ruling. But the bank, advised by Loretta Lynch, refused — and told him they intended to turn the documents over on Christmas regardless of whether that gave him time to request judicial intervention. The bank even refused to provide a copy of the subpoena they received from the committee, which Budowich, to this very day, has not seen.

 
Budowich’s lawyers did everything possible to seek judicial intervention before JPMorgan gave all his financial documents to the committee, but the timing agreed to by the committee, Lynch and the bank — documents produced on Christmas Eve, with notice to him arriving just a couple days before when he was testifying in Washington — made it impossible, by design. As a result, JPMorgan gave all of his banking records to the committee without even seeking an extension.
 
Budowich was therefore left with no alternative but to file an after-the-fact lawsuit against House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and the committee members, seeking an emergency injunction against the committee’s use of his banking records. In response, both the committee and JPMorgan argued that the entire question was “moot” given that they already handed over the documents.
 

In other words, lawyers for the committee and Loretta Lynch created a plot whereby JPMorgan would notify Budowich of its intent to hand over the documents right before Christmas, so as to purposely deny him time to seek a court ruling, and then used the fact that he was “too late” in filing as a ground for arguing that the court should shut its doors to him and refuse to even give him a hearing. The court agreed that Budowich’s request for an emergency injunction was “moot” given that the bank already handed supplied the documents, but agreed to rule on the merits of the arguments about whether the subpoena was legal.

 
The parties’ briefs on this question were submitted to an Obama-appointed federal judge, James Boasberg, in Washington. The oral argument on Budowich’s request to enjoin the use of his banking records by the committee was held earlier on Thursday, and Judge Boasberg quickly rejected Budowich’s objections to the subpoena. It will now be appealed to the Court of Appeals, but the issues presented by the committee’s arguments are chilling.
 

At the hearing, the committee’s lawyers essentially repeated the same argument they advanced in their legal brief: namely, that none of the legal safeguards imposed on the FBI and other law enforcement agencies to guard against abuse of power apply to this Congressional committee, which therefore enjoys virtually absolute power to do what it wants.

 

That is not an exaggerated summary of the committee’s argument. The primary law on which Budowich is relying is The Right to Financial Privacy Act (“RFPA”), which prohibits any “financial institution, or officers, employees or agent of the financial institution” from “provid[ing] to any Government authority access to or copies of, or the information contained in, the financial records of any customer” unless they have first complied with the requirement of that law. Among the key requirements is that a “financial institution shall not release the financial records of a customer until the Government authority seeking such records certifies in writing to the financial institution that it has complied with the applicable provisions of this chapter.” As Budowich’s lawyers argued, the key to the law is that a person whose financial records are sought must receive notice of that attempt and be given sufficient time to challenge it in court:

Both 12 U.S.C. §§ 3405 (administrative subpoena or summons) and 3408 (formal written request) require that a copy of the subpoena or request “have been served upon the customer or mailed to his last known address on or before the date on which the subpoena or summons was served on the financial institution” together with a formal statutory notice allowing ten (10) days from the date or service or fourteen (14) days from the date of mailing the required notice. See 12 U.S.C. §§ 3405, 3408. Additional provisions of RFPA establish the right of a financial institution customer to challenge a request for their financial records in an appropriate United States District Court, and that proceedings involving such challenges should be completed or decided within seven (7) calendar days of the filing of any Government response. See 12 U.S.C. § 3410(a)-(b).

The committee did not deny that it failed to meet these requirements. Obviously, they could not argue that, given that the plan they created with JPMorgan and its lawyer, Loretta Lynch, was designed to ensure that Budowich have no time to obtain a judicial ruling before his bank records were handed over. Instead, the committee’s response is they do not have to comply with this law. “The Act restricts only agencies and departments of the United States, and the Select Committee is neither,” the committee’s lawyer contended. In fact, they explicitly argued that these safeguards were meant to be imposed only on the FBI and other law enforcement agencies, but were intended to exempt Congress even when, as here, they are clearly engaged in investigating private citizens for potential crimes. “Multiple provisions of the statute underscore that Congress intended ‘Government authority’ to mean an executive branch agency or department,” the committee’s lawyers wrote in an assertion of power breathtaking in its scope and limitlessness.

 
All of the other committee’s arguments are similarly designed to bestow on itself absolute and unlimited power in how it investigates private citizens, and to insist that the judiciary is without power to impose limits on it. The committee insists, for instance, that it can investigate anyone it wants in connection with 1/6 even if its motive is not to enact new laws and even if the documents it seeks (Budowich’s financial records) have no relationship to any proposed new laws. That is because, it says, “Congressional committees are not required to identify a specific piece of legislation in advance of conducting an investigation of the pertinent facts. It is sufficient that a committee’s investigation concerns a subject on which legislation ‘could be had.'”
 

Such a principle, if accepted, would destroy any limits on Congress’s ability to investigate citizens (clearly, it was possible for the McCarthy-era Congressional investigations to lead to new laws even though, as the Supreme Court twice ruled when striking them down, that was clearly not its primary purpose). But Judge Boasberg nonetheless accepted the committee’s argument on the ground that an appellate court had already ruled that the 1/6 Committee had a valid legislative purpose and he was therefore bound by that decision.

 
The committee’s other arguments are even more extreme: namely, that “the Constitution’s Speech or Debate Clause provides absolute immunity to Members and committees when performing legislative acts” and that “sovereign immunity prohibits litigation against Congress to which it has not consented, and no such consent has been.” That would mean that the 1/6 Committee could literally do whatever it wanted to citizens, and no court would have the right even to review the legality or constitutionality of what it is doing let alone put a stop to it.
 
What happened during the first War on Terror — and so many other events that were perceived as traumatic — is instructive here. So many Americans were so horrified by the carnage of that day that, for years, many did not care or want to hear about legal niceties, constitutional limits or civil liberties regarding the government’s actions. Anything the government did in the name of responding to or retaliating for 9/11 became inherently justified, and anyone who objected — no matter the principles cited — was deemed to be on the side of the terrorists.
 
The same dynamic is prevailing here. There are serious constitutional limits on the ability of Congress to investigate private citizens. It is blatantly abusive to scheme with JPMorgan and its counsel Loretta Lynch to ensure that a citizen has no time to seek judicial relief regarding the committee’s attempt to obtain mounds of his personal and financial records. And, in general, the committee has been on a rampage targeting not only Trump officials or people who engaged in criminal behavior at the Capitol on January 6 but a wide group of citizens whose only crime appears to be their political beliefs and associations — exactly what the Supreme Court cited when striking down the excesses of Congress’s McCarthy-era probes of citizens.
 
But with the media overwhelmingly cheering anything done in the name of stopping the Trump movement and those who supported 1/6 in any way, all of these civil liberties concerns and constitutional protections are run roughshod over in the name of safety. The latest arguments from the Congressional 1/6 Committee amount to little more than an assertion of unfettered power for Adam Schiff, Liz Cheney and the rest of the committee members to dig into the lives of anyone they want without limits.

 

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WASHINGTON, D.C.—Multiple sources close to the January 6 Select Committee confirmed this week that the panel of congresspeople really just wants to date Trump. Those close to the committee members, who are spending weeks and weeks obsessing over Trump and airing criticisms of the former president, claim that every member of the committee just has a massive crush on him.

“It’s obvious they want to date him, as they’re constantly criticizing him,” said Lionel Werner, a political analyst and certified relationship counselor. “You know how in grade school the boy who pulls a girl’s pigtails just really has a crush on her? That’s what’s happening here. Adam Schiff and his colleagues are basically, well, pulling Trump’s pigtails.”
“Uh… sorry for the visual there.”
Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, usually an opponent of Trump’s, came to his defense. “It’s inappropriate for these congress people to take their sexual frustrations out on Trump,” she said. “Just like all these Republicans want to date me and my boyfriend’s weird feet, now they’re objectifying Trump. It’s disgusting. I stand in solidarity with my fellow victim of sexual harassment, Donald.”
Trump even chimed in on the debate: “NOT Surprising. I’m incredibly good-looking!!! Everyone says so. All the best people. They all want me. HUMBLING!!” he posted on Parler, Gab, Gettr, and Myspace.

Again, the same message. The left provides us with example after example their dream totalitarian police state. Especially with Schiff, people prove that absolute power corrupts absolutely, and they don’t even have the power to do what they’re doing. In addition to what we’ve seen in this article, the leftists didn’t even bother establishing their kangaroo kommittee per their own directive. It is fraudulent, illegal and illegitimate. It needs to be crushed out of existence, along with it’s wormy members.

Laws or personal rights mean nothing to the left; they can’t wait to have the power to destroy the Constitution, once and for all. With the “Russian collusion” witch hunts, attacks on Trump’s personal privacy, the two warrantless impeachments and now this “investigation”, the left gives us a limited sampling of what they would do with their craved absolute power and one-party state.

What they’re investigating NEEDS to be investigated. The December 6 committee is actually playing defense, on behalf of the people of The United States of America.

There were actual crimes. There was an actual plot to overturn an entirely LEGITIMATE CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTION, based on a national campaign of fully documented LIES, that culminated in an aroused mob violently entering the Capitol to stop an electoral college count. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED.

The same damn people behind that are still telling the same lies, and are now openly seizing control of the presidential election process at the state level—to such an degree that they’ll be able to determine election outcome themselves, irrespective of the will of a majority of the people.

NEVER WAS A FULL INVESTIGATION MORE NECESSARY.

People should snap the hell out of it. If desperately trying to hide everything that brought us to January 6 isn’t a clear hint that we need to know what happened, I don’t know what would be.

That isn’t a partisan concern. It’s an American concern.

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Prime example of leftist wing thinking provided to us by our resident Communist, Comrade Greggie;

the 2020 election was totally, TOTALLY legitimate but if HB/SB 1 is not passed, there will never be free and fair elections again because the Democrats are the majority and our elections will be now be unfair and unfree (as Comrade Greggie screams “except for November 2020 which was totally free and fair”).

And you wonder why Comrade Greggie’s brain is so jumbled? It’s as convoluted as the DNC talking points.

Do you think TRUTH should be whatever some blowhard politician tells you it is? If so, you’re the problem. If not, you should want to know the facts and the evidence before deciding what’s true.

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No, we don’t think what idiot Biden, Pelosi, Schiff, Schumer, Nadler, Cheney, Swalwell or Kinsinger have any credibility whatsoever.

You would not know the truth if it was tatooed on your forearm, idiot.

All you do is spew your pre-programed b/s lines from the DNC, or is it the CCP? You know, and I know, that if the claim that our election in November 2020 was legitimate, and there was no funny business, that is proof alone that we don’t need the Democrats to destroy Constitutional mandates and take control of elections from the states and give it to scum like Pelosi, Schumer and Fang Fang’s paramour.

You need better responses, Comrade Greggie. Your stupidity is showing.

January 20, 2022 – Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw fake electors plot in 7 states

Trump campaign officials, led by Rudy Giuliani, oversaw efforts in December 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states that Trump lost, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the scheme.

The sources said members of former President Donald Trump’s campaign team were far more involved than previously known in the plan, a core tenet of the broader plot to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory when Congress counted the electoral votes on January 6.

Giuliani and his allies coordinated the nuts-and-bolts of the process on a state-by-state level, the sources told CNN. One source said there were multiple planning calls between Trump campaign officials and GOP state operatives, and that Giuliani participated in at least one call. The source also said the Trump campaign lined up supporters to fill elector slots, secured meeting rooms in statehouses for the fake electors to meet on December 14, 2020, and circulated drafts of fake certificates that were ultimately sent to the National Archives.

Trump and some of his top advisers publicly encouraged the “alternate electors” scheme in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico. But behind the scenes, Giuliani and Trump campaign officials actively choreographed the process, the sources said.

One fake elector from Michigan boasted at a recent event hosted by a local Republican organization that the Trump campaign directed the entire operation.

“We fought to seat the electors. The Trump campaign asked us to do that,” Meshawn Maddock, co-chair of the Michigan Republican Party, said at a public event last week that was organized by the conservative group Stand Up Michigan, according to a recording obtained by CNN.

Here’s the audio recording of Meshawn Maddock.

Maddock was also one of the 16 Trump supporters from Michigan who served as fake electors and signed the illegitimate certificate that was sent to the National Archives.

“It was Rudy and these misfit characters who started calling the shots,” a former Trump campaign staffer said. “The campaign was throwing enough sh*t at the wall to see what would stick.”

Rudy has been subpoenaed by the January 6 committee. How many times do you suppose he’s going to take the Fifth?

On the other hand, Rudy might decide that he shouldn’t be a fall guy, and tell everything. He might not want a cell adjoining that of his associate Lev Parnas, who has been already been convicted of campaign finance charges for illegally funneling Russian money into republican campaign coffers. Parnas is presently awaiting sentencing.

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“Sources”. Never names, just “sources”. Well, the human imagination is not considered a credible source. Why were the lies about Officer Sicknick necessary? Why was the cover-up of the shooting of Ashli Babbitt necessary? Why wasn’t Stewart Rhodes brought in long before now, only after severe criticism? Why has Ray Epps been arrested?

This is nothing but a ploy to try and make Trump responsible for an FBI/Pelosi operation. It take a real moron to overlook that.

This is just propaganda, greg.

You’re a paid troll, saying what all the other paid trolls are saying at the same time on other sites.

You guys understand how clear and evident your disinformation pushes are, right?

Touching Trump will spark an actual civil war.

Let it go, and stop taking money from Trillionaires to install puppets.

Dems rigged the election and their criminal FBI staged January 9th.

We know it. You know it.

@ Greg Another CNN article, the Pedophile Propaganda Losers. Theres a reason they have less than 1/11 the viewing audience than Joe Rogan. You must want to date them.

If you knew anything about the electoral act of 1877 and the 12th amendment you might understand that providing an alternate set of electors is actually required by the constitution.
In the election of 1960, Hawaii did present alternate electors anticipating that Nixon might challenge the states electoral votes.

Nixon conceded and the process was not necessary.

BTW, President Trump won the 2020 election.

FJB

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Do you think TRUTH should be whatever some blowhard politician tells you it is?

You do and that’s the problem. You’re indoctrinated via CNN and others, and the Majority of Americans, us, are ignoring you and setting things right….Constitutionally.

What they’re investigating NEEDS to be investigated. The December 6 committee is actually playing defense, on behalf of the people of The United States of America.

But they aren’t “investigating” anything. They have their preferred conclusion and they are merely trying to prove that conclusion, even though the FBI has already discredited their already prepared conclusion.

What needs to be actually investigated is what role Pelosi, Bowser, the Capital Police and the FBI had in the riot. What also needs desperately to be investigated, which actually led to this protest breaking out in a riot, is why the DOJ, FBI and Democrats continue to ignore the ongoing BLM/ANTIFA violent terrorism and attacks on government, business and individuals. We need to know why a minor riot is so important but a full year and $2 billion in damage leftist riots, looting and insurrection is not. We need an investigation into the police state mentality of Democrats and removal from power those who ascribe to this fascism.

The election was not legitimate. By any measure, by all accounts, based on solid evidence documented, it was severely flawed. There was massive and widespread fraud. This attack on the Constitution went totally unexamined, uninvestigated, unaddressed and ignored, which infuriated many people who wanted some answers. If there were legitimate explanations for embarrassments like State Farm Arena, that would have quelled the outrage, but the time for that is long gone because if such explanations were available, we would have had them long ago.

So, sure, there are lots of legitimate things to be investigated, but not politically exploited as Democrats are doing with Jan6… and that is ALL they are doing.

But they aren’t “investigating” anything. They have their preferred conclusion and they are merely trying to prove that conclusion, even though the FBI has already discredited their already prepared conclusion.

That’s not what they’re doing at all—though I can certainly understand why the people under investigation would insist that it is. All that’s required to understand that is a passing familiarity with human nature.

That is EXACTLY what they are doing. Otherwise, the committee would be properly organized, Pelosi would not have had to personally pick the TWO (not SIX) Republicans on the committee and those two would not be the most venomous Trump haters in Congress. It wouldn’t have that slimy liar Schiff on it. Instead of making every effort to make it appear fair and beyond reproach and question, Pelosi has taken every effort to make it appear partisan and biased.

Believe me, the human nature aspect has not evaded me.

That is EXACTLY what they are doing.

We will soon discover if the sworn testimony and collected evidence prove otherwise—despite multiple refusals to recognize congressional subpoenas, herculean legal efforts to lock down pertinent records, and repeated appeals to the Fifth Amendment. But the thing is, many involved people already have talked, and huge volumes of records have been obtained. Puzzle pieces are being fit together and a picture is emerging.

I strongly suspect that January 6th is going to turn out to be EXACTLY what it looked like it was. It was part of a dangerous, failed plan to overturn an election with propaganda, fraud, and a mob, that actually was put into action.

I’m also afraid that Trump, the GOP, and their right-wing propaganda-for-profit media will again demonstrate that evidence doesn’t matter; that instead of what you might see with your own eyes, the truth is the pitch that they’re making, and whatever delusions they’re selling.

Unfortunately, they can persuade people, using debunked conspiracy theories, manipulative social media campaigns, raised-Bible and hugged-flag-photo-ops, and unending smear campaigns against any person or any institution that points out what they’re doing out. These guys could convince their target audience that that Frank Capra was a communist or Jesus was a capitalist, and won’t hesitate to do so if it serves their own personal ends.

We will soon discover if the sworn testimony and collected evidence prove otherwise

Um, how do you know? Like the impeachments, has the “evidence” already been fabricated, all hearsay, innuendo and lies? Like Cheney lying about Trump’s response to the riot? Like Twitter shutting down Trump’s account when he was telling the rioters to stop and go home? January 6th is turning out to be exactly what it was; a protest the Democrats incited into violence in order to exploit it.

January 6th is a false-flag.

Any attempt to charge Trump with a made up crime is actual insurrection and will be treated as such.

Go start your own Marxist Hell.

Our Constitutional Republic is spoken for, and Trump is who was voted in…2016, and 2020.

We know their Nature,they have already leaked emails that they altered, a judge would have thrown the case out of court and disbarred the attorneys. Having no new dirty trick this was the same thing done to get a FISA Warrant in order to spy on Trumps campaign.
It compltly ruined any hope that this committee would come to any conclusion other than it was an organized riot. No one seems to want to know about the serious security lapses incompetent or intentional.

So the FBI and the Democrats actually created a false scandal to undermine a sitting President. It’s been debunked and there is NO RUSSIA COLLUSION.

Why would we trust any of these “charges” cooked up for a Soviet style show court?

“Show me the man and I’ll show the crime.”

Don’t touch Trump. You have no authority or clout to do so, being part of a illegitimate and vastly opposed regime.

What they’re investigating NEEDS to be investigated. False premise

The December 6 committee is actually playing defense, on behalf of the people of The United States of America. Wrong, they are hiding the fact that the election was stolen

There were actual crimes. There is no evidence other than trespassing of any crimes committed. And, the trespassing was intentional entrapment by the FBI

There was an actual plot to overturn an entirely LEGITIMATE CONSTITUTIONAL ELECTION, based on a national campaign of fully documented LIES, that culminated in an aroused mob violently entering the Capitol to stop an electoral college count.

Total bullshit, not one weapon was confiscated from any of the protesters

THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. That is what happened in your narrative

He still telling the same lies, and are now openly seizing control of the presidential election process at the state level–

No such truth to that. Under the Constitution, states have plenary power over elections. Perhaps you missed that during civics class

to such an degree that they’ll be able to determine election outcome themselves, irrespective of the will of a majority of the people.

New laws in states where fruad occurred is simply re affirming the power states have under the Constitution to conduct elections. The executive nor the judicial braches of the states have any constitutional authority with regard to elections.

NEVER WAS A FULL INVESTIGATION MORE NECESSARY.

The investigation should center on pelosi, bowser, schumer, wray and all of the FBI informants involeved in both the michigan attampt to kidnap whitmer and the preplanned entrapment on January 6

People should snap the hell out of it. If desperately trying to hide everything that brought us to January 6 isn’t a clear hint that we need to know what happened, I don’t know what would be.

That isn’t a partisan concern. It’s an American concern.

Wrong again, it is not an American concern, it is a democrat, cnn and msnbc concern…

BLM riots led to record murders of blacks… Check the chart…

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According to new CDC data on deaths by homicide, the number of blacks who died in homicides in one month had never reached 1,000 in any month in this century. But black homicide victims reached four-figures for each of the last eight months of 2020 from May 2020 through December 2020.
 
Black Lives Matter advocates have some explaining to do.

Sure dude. Calm down and wipe the spittle from your chin. It looks like you are more concerned than the actual committee. It’s just more Democrat political theatre, But then again you are easily fooled. Maybe Bobby Mueller can help you.
https://thefederalist.com/2022/01/20/only-10-percent-of-j6-committee-subpoenas-relate-to-the-capitol-riot/

January 6th is a fraud and a false flag conducted by an illegitimate regime…

…as all false flags are.

Good luck with that.

The American concern is maintaining our free and fair elections, due process, and Laws…all things the Democrats have steadily eroded and replaces with simple totalitarianism.

Biden is no president and Jan. 6th is a sham.

As more evidence pours out on the massive fraud that has us with a puppet to the left President this dangerous committee sees just how far they can expand its power Are you now or have you ever been associated with Trump? Dragged off and shot?
Oh but the Republicans in the clown car will make sure everything is fair. Just like Robin Vos made sure there were illegal drop boxes in Wisconsin. Oh he was found out and the Representative that outed him was punished by Speaker Vos. Darn the same tactic was used in PA. I would never call them RINOs they are straight up guilty of treason. Clean up the voter rolls, oh yeah States hire professionals for that, a child of Soros NGO. More than 1/2 of our States use ERIC founded by Georgie’s Open Society. More Republicans are finally being made aware how crooked some election officials are.
They will become much worse now that they lost both the filibuster and the voting bill, much much worse.

Over one year after Trump lost the 2020 election by 7 million votes, the first item of credible evidence supporting Trump’s Big Lie has yet to appear.

greg casts out his line but the hook has no bait. Nice try, greg is desperate to get someone to bite so he can continue the big lie that the election was legitimate.

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So where’s the link to the website where all of the credible evidence supporting Trump’s stolen election bullshit is laid out for public inspection?

There isn’t one, because there isn’t any.

Thousands of cases of clear, credible evidence have been given…over and over again.

It’s fact.

Only about 20-30% of duped Americans call Biden a president and not a puppet.

Funny thing: goodreads had a good quote of Malcolm x that is now strangely scrubbed from the internet.

Facts exist outside of “websites”, you idiot. The election was rigged and we saw it with our own eyes.

For your reminder, this is what Malcolm said about the people paying you to argue with logic:

 The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man. Let me explain what I mean by the white liberal. In America there is no such thing as Democrat or Republican anymore. In America you have liberals and conservatives. The only people living in the past who think in terms of I’m a Democrat or Republican, is the American Negro. He’s the one that runs around bragging about party affiliation. He’s the one that sticks to the Democrat or sticks to the Republican. But white people are divided into two groups, liberals and conservative. The Democrats who are conservative, vote with the Republicans who are conservative. The Democrats who are liberal vote with the Republicans that are liberal. The white liberal aren’t white people who are for independence, who are moral and ethical in their thinking. They are just a faction of white people that are jockeying for power. The same as the white conservative is a faction of white people that are jockeying for power. They are fighting each other for power and prestige, and the one that is the football in the game is the Negro, 20 million black people. A political football, a political pawn, an economic football, and economic pawn. A social football, a social pawn. The liberal elements of whites are those who have perfected the art of selling themselves to the Negro as a friend of the Negro. Getting sympathy of the Negro, getting the allegiance of the Negro, and getting the mind of the Negro. Then the Negro sides with the white liberal, and the white liberal use the Negro against the white conservative. So that anything that the Negro does is never for his own good, never for his own advancement, never for his own progress, he’s only a pawn in the hands of the white liberal. The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros, and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked, or deceived by the white liberal then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man. The only way that our problem will be solved is when the black man wakes up, clean himself up, stand on his own feet and stop begging the white man, and take immediate steps to do for ourselves the things that we have been waiting on the white man to do for us. Once we do for self then we will be able to solve our own problems’ “The white conservatives aren’t friends of the Negro either, but they at least don’t try to hide it. They are like wolves; they show their teeth in a snarl that keeps the Negro always aware of where he stands with them. But the white liberals are foxes, who also show their teeth to the Negro but pretend that they are smiling. The white liberals are more dangerous than the conservatives; they lure the Negro, and as the Negro runs from the growling wolf, he flees into the open jaws of the “smiling” fox. One is the wolf, the other is a fox. No matter what, they’ll both eat you.

I continue to wonder how any person that holds white people responsible for past acts (long, long ago) of subjugation and racism can join the VERY POLITICAL PARTY that exercised slavery, racism, suppression, bigotry and prejudice and pretend to be offended by racism.

Thousands of cases and evidence were given.

It’s fact.

It’s also on most of our computers, so don’t forget that when you claim it doesn’t exist…knowing damn well that google and the rest of the paying oligarchs are trying to scrub it from existance…as criminals do.

Just to be clear, the resident trolls over every site I read are all copy/pasting the same garbage as this idiot greg.

It’s always part of little disinformation pushes by these people, who definitely don’t live in the United States.

Ron/AJ said he got laid off from Amazon, then said I was lying.

These accounts are used by multiple people. Just an FYI.

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Wisconsin audit:
569,277 voters have 1/1/1918 registration date, amounting to 1 out of every 14 voters in the system
Not a birth date voter registration date

115,252 of them voted in November 2020

Its the Cheese our fountain of youth, they still are on the waiting list for Packer Season tickets too.

01/01/1900 and 01/01/1918 were default dates of birth used when a state-wide Wisconsin database was first created after 2002. Many original municipal records only affirmed that a registered voter was old enough to cast a ballot.

The default dates still remain on many records, when there has been no subsequent event requiring a new registration to be filed.

This has been explained by Wisconsin election officials again and again and again.

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Incomplete applications or registrations should be rejected/corrected with notification.
They can find me for taxation, water and trashbills.
There are zero excuses for junk data GIGO
Default phone numbers default birthdates its bull.
The WEC has failed to show up to any of the meetings, only make up excuses afterwards.
The Clerks are our employees we expect a certain level of compeancy and the laws followed to the letter.

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Unfortunately, you can’t make up the thousands of bullsh*t excuses for the other thousands of other cases of clear and evidently relevant voter fraud.

Biden won nothing.

Trump will never be prosecuted, because there is nothing to prosecute him for.

There is NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of massive voter fraud affecting the outcome of the 2020 election. This is why none has been laid out for public inspection anywhere.

Instead, we’ve got a proliferation of websites pitching loads of conspiracy theory nonsense, all harnessed to pull Trump’s political wagon back toward the Oval Office.

Some of the late-stage, trial-balloon executive orders that were drafted for consideration are interesting. They actually thought about issuing an executive order to the Pentagon to seize voting machines.

If you can’t see or don’t care what was going on there, I really don’t know what to tell you.

Greg If you can’t see or don’t care what was going on there, I really don’t know what to tell you.
There is video of election officials in PA destroying election materials, knowing it was a felony.
Repeated subpoenas for AZ to get access to the machines ignored.
This soviet style committee Pelosi has formed seems to think no one has any rights. They can trample the constitution at will?
Do you ever wonder what its like to be normal?

If there’s any actual, it’ll-stand-up-in-court evidence for any of that, I’d like to know what it is, and why no one has successfully taken it to court.

It isn’t democrats who have shot every such claim down with a barrage of factual information. Republican judges have shot it down. Republican election officials have shot it down, again and again. Sources that promote such claims have been repeatedly demonstrated to be untrustworthy.

There is. It’s been given. You know it.

You’re just being daft and acting like a child.

The narrative has worked on you.

We had NO EVIDENCE of Trump colluding with Russia, but there was still a 2 1/2 year investigation. It was all based on FBI-led insurrection and losing HRC.

The clear video evidence of voter fraud was given right away. The hundreds of affidavits from poll watchers was given. The states were found to have broken their own consitutions.

Yes, the Republicans were in on it too.

You don’t get it yet. It’s us (the Majority) against you (the minority). We voted for Trump, the most legal and uncontested votes in history.

Biden’s so-called “81 million” votes are doubted, especially if it takes a virus and SIX BILLION in campaign funds to magically find the votes you need in the night.

Biden won nothing and we, the People, are tolerating him and the rest of you traitors…for now.

Aaron Rodgers questions whether Biden got 81 million votes…

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“When the president of the United States says, ‘This is a pandemic of the unvaccinated,’ it’s because he and his constituents, which, I don’t know how there are any if you watch any of his attempts at public speaking, but I guess he got 81 million votes.”

 

“But when you say stuff like that, and then you have the CDC, which, how do you even trust them, but then they come out and talk about 75% of the COVID deaths have at least four comorbidities. And you still have this fake White House set saying that this is the pandemic of the unvaccinated, that’s not helping the conversation.”

 

“When in the course of human history has the side that’s doing the censoring and trying to shut people up and make them show papers and marginalize a part of the community ever been the correct side?

 

We’re censoring dissenting opinions on Covid? What are we trying to do? Save people from being able to determine the validity on their own or to listen and to think about things and come to their own conclusion? Freedom is dangerous now if it doesn’t align with the mainstream narrative? That’s, I think first and foremost, what I wanted people to understand, and what people should understand is that there’s scientific censorship in this country going on right now.”

 

“Are they censoring terrorists or pedophiles? Criminals who have Twitter profiles? No, they’re censoring people, and they’re shadow-banning people who have dissenting opinions about vaccines.”

 
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Aaron Rodgers questions whether Biden got 81 million votes… – CITIZEN FREE PRESS

There is NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE of massive voter fraud affecting the outcome of the 2020 election. This is why none has been laid out for public inspection anywhere.

State Farm Arena. Fake water main break. Sending all observers home. Massive spike in idiot Biden votes. You never even ATTEMPT to explain it, the first major example of fraud that arose on election night. Anyone that says idiot Biden doesn’t lie is not going to see the massive and widespread fraud that was perpetrated that night.


There are thousands of clear and credible cases of voter fraud.

It’s fact.

The narrative that “it doesn’t exist” isn’t helping Democrats, at all.

You people think that truth is truth because it’s on an approved website you endorse.

We’re back in the days of the Guttenberg press, you people scrambling to stop the average joe from printing and disseminating truth not convenient to the Church at the time.

The Vatican made it illegal to print anything without their approval and without a “license”.

You are the same. Blue checkmarks are nothing new.

01/01/1900 and 01/01/1918 were default dates of birth used when a state-wide Wisconsin database was first created after 2002.
I am typing slowly cause you cant read these are dates of registration to vote not birth dates, go read my post again. Yes they are default but why?

01/01/1900 and 01/01/1918 were default dates of birth used when a state-wide Wisconsin database was first created after 2002. 

Why don’t you just provide us a little validation of that excuse because, forgive me, that smacks of utter bullshit. Why would a “default date of birth” ever be necessary?

That is a default excuse for fraud.

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It appears greg got his facts from, wait for it, politifact…

PolitiFact | The false claim that 100,000 Wisconsin voters registered more than 100 years ago

Any intelligent reader can always click on the Our Sources link that’s included with every PolitiFact discussion, then follow the links provided to the material supporting their true-or-false assessments.

Like Wikipedia, PolitiFact is not a primary source. They don’t claim to be. They compile topical information and provide links to the sources that it comes from.

Created after 2002 seems we solved the Y2K panic by then but not birth, this was the date they registered to vote. That would make these voters 123 years old minimum.
Zuckerbergs agent in Green Bay had an employee ID Card, so a dude provided full access to everything was carrying a fake ID. Nothing to see there.

They’re really not going to like 2023

Can we just get rid of Mitch, he be hangin’ with Brandon man, Mitch McConnell Says Black People Vote in Same Numbers as ‘Americans’

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Doesnt matter they cant audit their own systems the data entered is garbage, we will be out in force this election watching that every I is dotted and T is crossed no excuses the laws will be followed. From 43 GOP volunteers in 2020 over 400 have already volunteered and are training for 2022 in Dane county alone.

Newt Gingrich: Lawless Democrats “Face Real Risk of Jail” for Laws They Are Breaking When GOP Takes Over (VIDEO)

It would look terribly vindictive, but at some point those who violate rules, laws and the Constitution because of frustration of not having absolute power HAVE to be punished. We can’t be having just one party forced to follow the rules, mainly because the media protects the other party. There are penalties for violating laws and those penalties need to be administered across the board, not just when it benefits Democrats.

I suppose if you posted the link, people would realize that no VIDEO is actually there. Also, that Survival is some sort of right-wing lunatic-fringe website, pushing Free National Prayer Coins, Combat Fighter Courses, Family Bunker Plans, and weight loss products.

We are not the fringe, 75 million votes prove that,wake up democrats are jumping ship 1 year a 14% shift, you are now fringe linking to CNN that lost 90 % of its audience after the ex CIA guys couldnt see pedos they worked with everyday, sheesh.

We are not the fringe…

The unraveled?

I have no faith in the ability of those who would tear things apart to put them back together into something better. No actual plans for a New and Improved America 2.0 are being put out for examination. Have you not noticed this? The only plan is for a GOP takeover, when the GOP itself has already been taken over.

Being against things is easy. Taking things apart is easy. It’s putting them back together into something that works for everyone that’s damnably HARD.

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I have no faith in the ability of those who would tear things apart to put them back together into something better.

Yes you do, since you support Democrats. That’s what they are doing.

America 2.0 (The Authoritarian Edition) is being forced on our public and is NOT open for discussion. That’s why you clowns have to censor you enemies: you can’t beat them at rational debate.

Being AGAINST things is easy. That’s how you get votes for Biden. They voted against Trump, not for anything else.

Using the dumb is always the aim of despots and tyrants since time immemorable.

You either have downs syndrome, or you are being paid to intentionally accuse the Right of LITERALLY what the Left is doing in public.

Um, the “internet” isn’t true, greg.

Maybe in your homeland of China, but not in reality.

Um, the “internet” isn’t true, greg.

And where are you getting your information, since you have rejected all traditional sources of news and opinion, along with all recognized experts in virtually every academic and scientific field?

Are you going to let proven liars tell you who the liars are?

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You’re a lemming in a herd of lemmings. A conformist, a pig, a prey animal that is easily led around by the ring in your nose.

I’m not.

I’m afraid just because it’s on the internet doesn’t make it true. CNN and NBC, these failed “traditional sources” have literally been proved to be the proven liars you speak of.

You’re a Communist. This is how you people speak – toddler-level compliance with zero intellectual analysis of what you are being told.

We fought you clowns back into your holes in the 20th Century, and we’ll do it again in this one.

Professor Drops Nuke on Jan 6 Insurrection Narrative: They Don’t Look Like Trump Supporters

“The violent assault on the U.S. Capitol…is a major act of domestic political violence the like of which is unfamiliar in recent U.S. history.”

Actually, the domestic violence that was far worse and far more regular and excused, but it belonged to the left. They made political violence commonplace and mainstream. They also had great experience at organizing it.

Oddly, it all began on Trump’s watch.

Not oddly. By design.

Like how Covid was mysteriously released in an election year.

The Left is violent. The Right is not.

January 6th was needed by you traitors for a few reasons, one being the sudden false rebranding to make non-Leftists suddenly the strawmen they simply are not.

Fortunately, it didn’t work. No one is buying the FBI-engineered coup that is January 6th.

There’s a 1-in-4 chance that anything that happens will happen in an election year.

Lately the odds are around twice that for a post-Republican disaster that Democrats must somehow try to sort out, while Republicans fight efforts to do so every inch of the way. Look at what Obama had waiting for him. Look at what Biden had waiting for him—multiple crises: COVID, posing a healthcare crisis, a childcare crisis, and a supply chain crisis; soaring deficits and debt in conjunction with rising prices and falling revenue; Russia intent on Ukraine, China intent on expansion, and North Korea intent on who the hell knows what; an Afghanistan withdraw on the roll, with no apparent plan to avoid an endgame disaster; and an abortive attempt to overthrow an election by a damned liar who has every intention of having another go at an authoritarian take-over.

Thing will be different for Republicans this time around, if their Democratic successor fails a serious turn-around. The next republican administration would be starting in the sub-basement, like Obama or Biden had to, with no clue how to take on any of the nation’s current problems. Seriously, has anyone actually heard details of the GOP’s plan for anything?

What would they have to work with, after demonizing every traditional American institution, blowing off law and principle, elevating profits as the highest good, and making firearms readily available to just about everyone in an audience of delusional people they’ve convinced of the falseness of elections and the evil intentions of their own government.

Lots of luck with that.

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greg, big pharma funded Biden’s campaign and now he’s forcing the vaccine and suppressing treatments that work. They’ve already made Trillions.

That’s not an opinion. It’s fact.

Democrats blew off Law and Principle for over four years because they couldn’t let democratic process stand.

I can’t tell if you’re a bot, a Chinese idiot, or an actual boomer American idiot who seriously needs to be put out to pasture, but the facts remain: nothing you offer is close to reality.

in an audience of delusional people they’ve convinced of the falseness of elections and the evil intentions of their own government.

That is literally what you people and Democrats did over the 2016 election, so entitled that you think you get a one-party police state and can do away with over half of the populace.

Now you’ve broken our Laws, eroded due process, and rigged an election.

Good luck with that. Our nation is something new now, and it’s going to be mainly the poor fools the Left could grift that will pay the highest price.

Trump’s term was a massive success. He succeeded where Obama failed, and Biden quickly dismantled Trump’s successes and the expected ruin came with it.

Covid was released on purpose. It’s rather easy to see. If we had a freely elected President, he or she would be sanctioning third-world China back into the stone age, like Trump would.

We need a leader, not a puppet installed by our enemies.

Biden won nothing. We all lost our country.

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There’s a 1-in-4 chance that anything that happens will happen in an election year.

There’s a 100% chance the left will use violence to intimidate citizens and detract from their complete lack of policies that are good for the United States and taxpayers.

 Look at what Obama had waiting for him. 

Yeah, the disastrous economic results of the Democrat’s Community Reinvestment Act. Also look at the absolute failure of Obama to restore the economy.

Look at what Biden had waiting for him—

  • COVID under control with THREE vaccines to prevent further spread. All the PPE Obama had burned through had been replaced and replenished and the US was supplying the world with ventilators. Numerous cheap and effective treatments were available, but Democrats blocked them, preferring to characterize proven treatments as “injecting Lysol”. Democrats also denounced the vaccines… until THEY needed them.
  • NO childcare crisis when schools were opened. DEMOCRATS created that problem.
  • NO supply chain crisis until idiot Biden’s stupid mandates and paying people not to work.
  • Deficits soared when DEMOCRATS refused to support COVID aid packages unless they were loaded with left wing pork. Have a look at the deficits and debt now, scooter.
  • Inflation is an idiot Biden product, 100%. It didn’t exist until he killed energy production, which produced a chain reaction throughout the economy.
  • China, Russia, Afghanistan and Iran were all held in check by a strong and determined Trump who wasn’t on their payroll, as idiot Biden is. Idiot Biden made a definite choice to do EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of Trump plan for the withdrawal.
  • State Farm Arena

What was idiot Biden handed? A STRONG economy. Note the 33% expansion in the third quarter of 2020 when all was done was just open the economy and get out of the way. No inflation, no supply chain failures (no Transportation Secretaries disappearing, either). LEADERSHIP is missing now.

Thing will be different for Republicans this time around, if their Democratic successor fails a serious turn-around. 

Obama left Trump a lethargic, floundering economy that could provide nothing but part time service industry jobs. Trump LED. Trump ACTED. He reduced taxes (which increased revenues) and removed obstacles. He addressed unfair trade. He made the US energy independent. It was idiot Biden’s business partners, the CCP, that created HIS problems. He could have continued Trump’s successful policies but instead he denounced vaccines (which eventually because his one arrow in his quiver) and made stupid promises like “I’ll shut down the virus!” Idiot Biden, the fraud in office, is a total, unmitigated disaster of his own making.

Republicans will restore energy production, reinforce law enforcement, put down BLM/ANTIFA fascist insurrections, stop rewarding unemployment, end teaching racism in schools and close the Southern Border.

By the end of idiot Biden’s next year, what do you think America will be better at, burying cops or abandoning embassies?

Look at what Biden had waiting for him…

So vaccines are suddenly effective, now that you need to flip-flop for the sake of your argument?

The only consistency I see among Trump supporters is their support for Donald Trump. Their take on reality shifts whenever needed to allow them to maintain that one inexplicable constant.

Oddly, it all began on Trump’s watch.

What’s odd about it?
Can you show me a time in history where fascists began an insurrection against their fellow fascists? OF COURSE it began under Trump; the fascists wanted to remove him and it had the full support and approval of Democrats.

DUH.

Moving right along: January 24, 2022 – Georgia DA allowed to seat grand jury in Trump election probe

A judge signed off on an order to allow Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis to impanel a special grand jury in the investigation of former President Trump’s conduct following the 2020 presidential election, CNN reported.

Willis sent the request to Fulton County Superior Court Chief Judge Christopher Brasher on Thursday.

Willis wrote that her office has tried to interview multiple witnesses and gather evidence, and some witnesses and prospective witnesses have refused to cooperate without a subpoena.

The district attorney references a TV interview with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. He recorded a call with former President Trump. The former president could be heard asking Raffensperger to find him more votes.

Raffensperger said in the interview that he would gladly be interviewed as part of the investigation, but there was “a process for that.”

A special grand jury will have the power to subpoena witnesses…

A nothingburger the da is a Soros plant. Anyone associate with soros can not be trusted.

Looks like a pure racist

A former Speaker of the House is threatening jail time for members of Congress who are investigating the violent January 6 attack on our Capitol and our Constitution.

This is what it looks like when the rule of law unravels.

Liz Cheney, who is not actually the RINO in Donald Trump’s GOP.

It was Gingrich who led the charge to impeach Bill Clinton over the matter of a consensual extramarital affair, as I recall—while he was involved in one himself.

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You recall wrong. That’s not what it was about. Looks like you are having a Biden moment.

Yeah, that’s what it was about. Or was it because Clinton lied about a consensual extramarital affair?

You enthusiastically support a twice-divorced adulterer and inveterate liar.

With you scare mongering leftists it is always about race, or sex. You are incapable of comprehending that sometimes it is just about breaking a law, like committing perjury.

You leftists long ago traded values for value shaming.

Yes, they all hypocrites…we’re older than the age of 16, you idiot.

Now hold Biden to the same standards you held Trump.

NO?

Trump has yet to be held to any standards, but that moment is fast approaching.

It was a matter of perjury and obstruction of justice. The Democrats that failed to convict him showed what they think of the rule of law. But, you know, that’s just facts and stuff. Nothing you’ve shown any interest in.

If Republicans get the majorities they need, idiot Biden will be impeached and removed, but this time it will be for serious, dangerous failures, dereliction and corruption.

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So lying and witness tampering had nothing to do with it?
lying under oath and obstruction of justice.
but nice try there buddy boi.

democrats are in panic mode. They are going to lose the House and the Senate in the midterms. And, President Trump will win for a third time in 2024. The democrats can not stop the freight train that will take control in 2022 and 2024

The democrats can not stop the freight train that will take control in 2022 and 2024

There might be a bridge coming up with dynamite under it.

So sorry Brandon alreay blew himself up.
At least 3 Blackrock executives are on Bidens cabinet. Blackrock owns big pharma, mainstream media, and weapons manufacturers. They are also the most powerful Wall street fund in the world. One of their partners is the World Economic Forum.
Peek a boo we see you.

There might be a bridge coming up with dynamite under it.

That was Covid. We’ve gotten over it and now there is hell to pay.

02/07/22 – White House record boxes recovered at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago: report

The National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) retrieved multiple White House record boxes last month that were improperly kept at former President Trump‘s Mar-a-Lago property, The Washington Post reported.

The boxes reportedly contained important records of communication, gifts and letters from world leaders, which, according to the Post, is a violation of the Presidential Records Act.

The newspaper added that the boxes retrieved from the Florida estate included correspondence with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as well as a letter from former President Obama to Trump.

The Post noted that recent administrations have all had some Presidential Records Act violations, including the use of unofficial email and telephone accounts as well as the destruction of emails.

But a source told the newspaper that the transfer to Mar-a-Lago was “out of the ordinary … NARA has never had that kind of volume transfer after the fact like this.”

The Hill has reached out to the National Archives and Trump’s office for comment. 

The Presidential Records Act, which was put in place following the Watergate scandal, requires administrations to document and maintain records of the White House decisionmaking process.

The new development comes just a week after NARA handed over some Trump White House documents to the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection that were reportedly torn up and taped back together.

The National Archives said last week that the documents “included paper records that had been torn up by former President Trump.”

The former president had sued to stop the committee from being given certain documents, with his attorney claiming it was illegal and that Trump wanted to preserve privileges over certain documents.

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National Archives Raids Mar-a-Lago to Retrieve Trump White House Record Boxes – All They Found Were Mementos, Gifts and Letters From World Leaders

t’s hardly a raid. Sounds like it was all discussed and planned out between both sides:

Discussions between the Archives and the former president’s lawyers that began last year resulted in the transfer of the records in January, according to one person familiar with the conversations. Another person familiar with the materials said Trump advisers discussed what had to be returned in December.

a real nothing burger

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Anybody remember Sandy Berger the Clinton’s NSA stealing classified documents from the National Archives to protect Bill & Hill by stuffing them in his pants and later destroying the documents? Berger plead guilty but got zero jail time. Federal law enforcement agents are atheist leftist biased creeps who do whatever they are told by their bosses the big money anti-christian gangster donors to the Democrat party

Hillary and Bill ever return the White House silverware?
But the news to me is National Archives has the authority to raid anyone. They work for the DOJ?

I wonder how many boxes of records vanished from the Obozo admin of crimes and treason? I’d like to see the transcripts from his monthly meetings with his Muslim Brotherhood terrorist besties.

Unlike, say, somebody’s emails illegally on a private server, then erased to avoid scrutiny by law enforcement…

all the while they had been requested via congressional subpoena. I thought complying with subpoenas was mandatory

Trump has nothing to hide … he isn’t a criminal or a traitor.

The lesson here might be that you should burn any love letters you receive from Kim Jong Un rather than simply tearing them up.

Or not have explicit records of your payments from foreign governments for influence peddling on your porn-choked laptops when you take them in for repairs?

Why do you suppose Rudy has never made his copy of the hard drive available for public inspection? Did you ever wonder about that?

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biden is a complete embarrassment on the world stage.

FJB

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You will not under any circumstances ask Biden a question…

FJB

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Try to arrest Trump, and you’re admitting Treason.

Well, it’s not like he obliterated 33,000 State Department emails detailing corruption and treachery. But, if he had, it would have been OK, right? I mean, if it’s good enough for Hillary, or for Bubba to send Sandy Berger in to the National Archives to steal documents and destroy them, it would be OK for Trump to do it. Or, do you have more than one standard you follow?

Feb. 10, 2022 – Records obtained by Jan. 6 panel don’t list Trump’s calls
Very odd. The nation’s Capitol under siege, and Trump had official phone conversations with nobody…

The gaps in the records of Trump’s calls on Jan. 6, first reported by The New York Times and CNN, come as a separate House committee said Thursday that it is investigating whether former Trump violated the Presidential Records Act after boxes of presidential records were discovered at his Florida estate.

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Maybe he had them erased, Bleachbit, and that would be totally OK. Because, they were all about yogo, weddings and funerals.

Clinton wasn’t president when a mob she incited violently invaded the Capitol, chanted for the VP to be hanged, destroyed property, and injured 150 Capitol police officers.

I think she was pulling a train at the BLM headquarters.

From The Washington Examiner, Feb. 11, 2022 – Top-secret and other classified documents found at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago

Officials reportedly found classified documents at former President Donald Trump‘s Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida following his White House exit.

Some of the documents were “clearly marked as classified” and included “top secret” material that potentially could rev up legal scrutiny of his handling of White House records, the Washington Post reported.

“I have been told I was under no obligation to give this material based on various legal rulings that have been made over the years,” Trump said in a statement. “Crooked Hillary Clinton, as an example, deleted and acid-washed 32,000 emails and never gave that to the government. Then, they took large amounts of furniture out of the White House. And Bill Clinton kept numerous audio recordings that the archives wanted, but were unsuccessful at getting after going to court.”

It is unclear how many classified documents were kept at Mar-a-Lago or how they got there. The National Archives and Records Administration recovered 15 boxes of material from his resort in mid-January. The National Archives reportedly asked the Justice Department to review Trump’s handling of White House documents.

The National Archives told the Washington Examiner that it does not comment on possible investigations, and the Justice Department did not respond to requests for comment.

The classified documents are being held in a sensitive compartmented information facility as the Justice Department deliberates on how to proceed, sources told the Washington Post. Top-secret information could cause “grave damage” to national security if it is not handled properly, according to the National Archives.

Trump has faced scrutiny for his handling of White House documents during and after his presidency. The Presidential Records Act of 1978 requires key White House documents to be preserved for the historical record. During his time in the White House, Trump reportedly ripped up documents that staff had to tape back together to comply with the law.

Trump is also suspected of flushing documents down a White House toilet, according to a forthcoming book by New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman. Trump called it a “fake story.”

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Comrade Greggie, get back to us when Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. and Eric Holder release all the documents pertaining to Fast and Furious.

If he did, he had a precedent, one that was completely un-punished. Obviously, he “never intended to violate the law.”

Move on. Nothing to see here.

Because no former president has executive privilege for life. The power belongs to the office, not to any individual.
Feb. 16, 2022 – Joe Biden OKs release of Donald Trump’s White House visitor logs to Jan. 6 committee

3/2/22 – Trump and right-wing lawyer were part of ‘criminal conspiracy’ to overturn 2020 election, January 6 committee alleges

Former President Donald Trump and a right-wing lawyer were part of a “criminal conspiracy” to overturn the 2020 presidential election, the House select committee investigating the January 6 Capitol riot alleges in a court filing Wednesday.

The filing is part of an attempt to convince a judge to allow the panel access to emails from lawyer John Eastman, who is claiming attorney-client privilege. The committee says he helped orchestrate the plot.

Still at work while the media is focused elsewhere, apparently…

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CNN reports that the 9 Democrats on the phony “Trump Incited a Riot, Fill In The Blanks” commission states their predetermined conclusion. Wow… CNN. What a shock.

Democrats grow more desperate as they face extinction.

a right-wing lawyer were part of a “criminal conspiracy” 

If there is any justice in this world, Marc Elias will wind up at some facility making small rocks out of big rocks. So ditch the hypocrisy at to “right-wing” lawyers when the left hires Elias.

Still waiting on you to answer the questions I asked you. Or do you intend to just show what a coward you are?