William A. Jacobson:
A boycott and pressure campaign was launched against Brendan Eich, recently named CEO of Mozilla (which owns the Firefox browser), because in 2008 he contributed to a pro-Proposition 8 group. Eich resigned after a revolt against him at his own company due to his contribution.
Prop. 8 enshrined in the California constitution the definition of marriage as being one man, one woman, after the California Supreme Court held that limiting marriages to one man, one woman violated the California Constitution. The voters passed Prop. 8 to overrule the California Court’s interpretation.
We covered the legal and political issues extensively here. Ultimately, the U.S. Supreme Courtnever ruled on the substance of the issue, as the defenders of the Proposition were held not to have standing to protect the law after the California Attorney General (and now Governor) Jerry Brown refused to do so. That left standing a federal trial court ruling that Proposition 8 violated the U.S. Constitution.
Back in 2008, of course, Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and a clear majority of the nation accepted one man, one woman as the definition of marriage. Prop. 8 passed in large part because of strong support from Black and Latino churches and voters.
The fury of those opposed to Prop. 8 was not directed at those Democratic politicians and Black and Latino groups, but at Mormons, who were influential in the proposition drive.
I wrote about it at the time at American Thinker on December 4, 2008, It’s Time to Speak Out Against The ‘Mormon Boycott’, in which I detailed the widespread campaign:
In the end, the supporters of gay marriage who engage in anti-Mormon hate speech will realize that they have damaged their own cause. Lashing out at others and engaging in religious bigotry does not constitute an argument in favor of gay marriage.
Regardless of one’s position on gay marriage, it is time to speak out against the “Mormon boycott.” There simply is no one else who will, if we don’t.
I also posted, in a separate post at Legal Insurrection, an image of a sign actually carried by one of the protesters:
Whether there is a constitutional right to change the traditional definition of marriage, or whether that issue is merely political subject to electoral vote, is something the courts and the major political parties themselves have not agreed on. To single out Mormons and subject Mormons to an economic boycott is unjustifiable.
Before Brendan Eich, they came for the Mormons http://t.co/8ItfzWyMAM pic.twitter.com/c0CFoaY8ji
— Legal Insurrection (@LegInsurrection) April 5, 2014
The Mormon boycott never went far, though not for lack of trying, because Democrats and gay rights activists had a political problem. So long as major Democratic candidates supported what Prop. 8 enshrined, there was only so far they could go in demonizing supporters of traditional marriage.
But the template was created that support for traditional marriage was a hate crime and pure bigotry, just waiting for the right political time to pounce.
In April 2011, the law firm of King & Spalding came under an boycott threat when it agreed to represent the U.S. House of Representatives in a lawsuit defending the Defense of Marriage Act (signed into law by Bill Clinton).
Not only was King & Spalding threatened with direct boycott and being kicked off law school recruiting calendars, its clients unrelated to the dispute were threatened with picketing and boycotts. Coca Cola, the largest client of King & Spalding, had nothing whatsoever to do with DOMA, yet it was threatened and reportedly pressured the law firm as a result. The specter of a law firm’s clients unrelated to a dispute being threatened with boycott for using the law firm on unrelated matters was unprecedented, as far as I know. King & Spalding dropped the representations, causing its attorney Paul Clement to leave and take the House as a client with him.
The watershed event, however, was Barack Obama’s mid-campaign evolution in support of gay marriage in May 2012. That evolution was not much of an evolution; it’s pretty clear that Obama always supported gay marriage but chose political expediency for the 2008 campaign.
Nonetheless, Obama’s evolution set free the demonization of anyone who supported traditional marriage as not merely incorrect, but beyond worthiness to participate even in private business activities.
@RICH WHEELER:
Thurmound was as much of a Republican as Arlen Specter was.
@Redteam:” animals here for humans to use and treat humanely” Do you know anything about factory farming? Do you Bees? Very little humane about the way these animals are treated during their short and miserable lives. That’s the problem guys.
Go to Mercy For Animals and check out the under cover videos. I ate meat and chicken with the best of them till I witnessed those videos about 9 months ago.Watch them . Then get back to me.
RT You don’t think Thurmond and Helms were racists. You’re kidding. I hope.
If not I’ll say again. We’re so far apart, debate is senseless.
@Kraken: Thurmond–correct spelling became a Republican in 1964 in response to the passage of the CRA. He was a proud racist Dem who became a proud racist Repub.and remained so for 30+ years.
@RICH WHEELER:
So you’re an expert on factory farming are you RW? How many square feet does each animals apartments have while awaiting execution? Do their kitchens have all stainless appliances? Would you feel better about them being killed for food if they got to live a life of luxury for a month prior to their execution?
Do you think Mercy For Animals may be presenting a slanted point of view? Consider that they raised 2.3 million dollars and spent 1.3 million on the program. Wonder who’s pocket the other million went into? So you only became self righteous 9 months ago? Why would I want to watch a propaganda film that has a purpose of raising money for the pockets of the fund raisers? Probably films are made by Media Matters.
So, even now you are only concerned about chickens and pigs, how about those poor little mosquitos you’ve slapped to death over the years? Did you set them up in a luxury apartment for a week before you slapped them?
@RICH WHEELER:
Very good RW, you can’t prove your baseless assertion so you pretend to be right and self righteous.
And all this from someone that won’t tell us if he slaps mosquitos or not.
Rich Wheeler
yes i saw one fo those and i thought that was repulsive to see human do that job,
so in a hurry to kill, THEY MUST BE PAID BY EACH ONE THEY KILL,
THE MORE THE MORE MONEY THEY MAKE, INSENSITIVE AND LOWER THEN ANIMALS,
IT TAKE A LONG TIME TO RECOVER AFTER SEEING THAT VIDEO,,
IT SHAKE THE SOUL AND EVEN MORE WITH THE VIDEO OF ABORTED BABY THOUSANDS OF THEM,
A SHOKING DISCOVERY,
@RICH WHEELER:
So it’s your opinion, once a racist, always a racist? So you’re saying Obama can never change? hmmmmm…….
@ilovebeeswarzone: bees, that’s the reason I don’t watch films such as that. I know the conditions are bad in many cases, but even if things were improved, the end result is the animals will still be killed.
I wonder if RW has ever watch a snuff film of human babies being killed and burned for fuel? But hasn’t changed his mind a damn bit.
@ilovebeeswarzone: Those videos are being shown nationwide. Many factory farms being heavily fined and the owners censured. Some of those workers have gone to jail–how can anybody do that work? How can they sleep at night.
Thanks for watching them. It’s not easy–even for an old Marine.
RT As you know I am personally opposed to abortion and think women should be counseled towards adoption.
my steak come from a family farm they love and care for their animals
the most tender meat you can find, the cattle raise in the big land, i did watch them, FOR SOME YEARS,
THE WINTER THEY STAY AT THE BARN
AND ITS TIME TO HAVE THEIR BABY, I SUPPOSE THEY TIME IT FOR THAT TIME,
the only thing is when the time come to seLLl them,
it”s heart breaking to hear the mother see their young go or the young stay and see his mother leave in that big truck,
they cry and search for 3 days IN THE LAND, THE FARMER HAVE THEIR BUTCHER SINCE A LONG TIME PACKAGING THE MEAT IN DIFFERENT CUT OF BEEF, AND MY FRIENDS ARE ALSO SAD, BUT IT’S THEIR LIFE INCOME, WHICH THEY NEED, they keep many cattle, they sell only what they need OF MONEY,
THEY ARE NOT GREEDY, THEY TAKE ONLY THEIR RIGHTFULL MONEY, I BUY FROM THEM EACH YEAR,
@ilovebeeswarzone: Sadly, in the U.S the family farms are disappearing–factory farms, raising for slaughter with no concern for these animals is what we have. I believe they are unique to America. It seems most Americans are not aware. The inhumane treatment is of all farmed animals. Ugly.
Richard Wheeler
yes it stick in your mind hard to shake,
but it fall down in the debt of the soul eventualy,
YOU ARE SURPRISINGLY A SOFTIE AFTER WHAT YOU WENT WITH IN WAR,
YOU KEPT THE SOFT SIDE SAFE, THAT MAYBE WHAT SAVE YOUR HEALTH,
ALL THESES YEARS,
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: You may be right. Thanks for reminding me. Do anything you can to keep factory farming from coming to Canada–add it to your “cause” list. Thank you!
The Japanese have stopped the slaughter of whales because People just like you TOOK ACTION. Let’s now work to stop their merciless slaughter of dolphins in The Cove.
@RICH WHEELER: 311
Yes, I’m sure if you watched films of the animal farms in China and Russia they would all have luxury condos with swimming pools. They still get their heads chopped off, but at least they get to live a life of luxury for a month prior to the execution. I’m sure that in Japan, when they filet a fish, they probably use an antiseptic operating room with sterilized instruments. The fish are still dead, but what the hell, they went under with the best anesthesia.
You have got to be kidding Rich, you know damn well the other countries kill and eat animals just like they do here in the US.
and all this boo-hooing from someone that until only 9 months ago was slapping mosquitos with the best of them.
Am I the only one that has noticed that while RW condemns others for mercilessly killing animals that he fails to admit his own shortcomings in mercilessly killing animals? Why not repent now and ask for salvation RW? Stop the merciless extermination of malaria bearing mosquitos, bring back the DDT.
@RICH WHEELER:
Remind me again, RW. Which one of them was a former Grand Klegal of the KKK?
A new study of 1,320 Austrians published in Nutrition and Health about vegetarians, includes that they’re more likely to have cancer, food allergies, and anxiety or depression. http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0088278#abstract0
Now what about how you get your vitamin B-12?
A vegan diet is very low vitamin B12 because this nutrient is found mostly in animal products.
Vegans try to supplement this vitamin or drink fortified soy milk.
Soy, when drank in quantities to fill nutrient gaps in diets, can become toxic and the phyto-estrogens within the proteins of the soybean can lead to cancer, especially ovarian and breast type in females, as well as low testosterone and high estrogen levels in men.
Soy, in Tofu is hard on the thyroid.
And what about your vitamin D?
You know, so your bones don’t get brittle from lack of calcium.
Dairy or lots of sunshine?
Omega 3’s?
That’s just for your heart, forget it.
Fish or no fish?
@ilovebeeswarzone: Btw If you want to see my beautiful Charles and Diana–as well as the aging Marine pls feel free to go to my facebook page–San Clemente Cal.
@retire05:
Awww Retire, you know that ole Byrd changed his feathers and became a non racist later on. It was those dastardly Helms and Thurmond that never did change. Remember?
Rich Wheeler
VERY NICE THANK YOU,
i don’t belong to facebook,
but I appreciate,
maybe you could swich the picture to FLOPPING ACES,
LIKE FORWARD IT HERE
: NanG I take mega dose of B12 before I go to the gym– D-3, Calcium/Magnesium, E, multi,CoQ10, of course C and others including Saw Palmetto and Lycopene for prostate-I’m a vitamin junkie. Always have been.
I’ll sometimes eat fish when I go out to dinner.Nobody’s perfect.
As far as sunshine–love it.
Is this a correction or is The Bull over?
Gold a buy or sell at 1310?
Bees I only got on Facebook recently–IT’S EASY and Fun Try it
@RICH WHEELER:
You do know they slaughter innocent animals to make that B12, right?
Do you ensure that the tanks they were kept in are sterile and of luxurious accomadations and they are put to sleep with the most gentle anesthesia? So you’re breaking you vow of purity because you think the slaughter of fish is more humane? You’ve never watched them being gutted out in the hot sunshine? They could at least be in a cooler so they wouldn’t be tortured by the excess heat. Those guys gutting them are probably swatting those poor little defenseless mosquitos. Boo hoo hoo…..
Geeze, I don’t know, RW.
We moved out of all tech stocks that are based on air.
But biotech stocks are also betting on one or two new ideas in testing, so, they, too are built on air.
Remember your cycles.
This is the beginning of corporate earnings season……and those reports are not expected to be very good.
One article I read today about Dollar Stores cutting 370 doors and thousands of jobs pointed out that after the recession started top dollar stores like Macys lost huge and clsoed doors.
A year later it was middle-class shopping shops like JCPenny that lost badly and laid off thousands and closed lots of stores.
Still more recently it was Radio Shack.
Now it has moved down to where people on aid shop; the Dollar Stores.
Meanwhile the upper crust’s shops like Coach ae doing fine.
So, be selective.
Gold is always good if you’re able to actually sell it without getting mugged.
Be cautious about telling anyone if you have it at home.
I never talked about our gold until we’d sold it.
Best wishes on your outcomes.
RW, be sure to check this out. I sure don’t want mosquitos being executed non humanely and these guys know how to do it. You might want to bookmark it for future reference.
http://www.wikihow.com/Kill-a-Mosquito
@Nanny G: Market is only responding to high price of gasoline. Bull is not over. Take my word, I’m usually right.
@Nanny G:
Nan, with Rich, the Bull is never over. I had a good laugh over this one.
@Redteam: You certainly excel at self aggrandizement.lol
Nan Thanks for your input. Always appreciated.
Bees Keep those good thoughts
A great weekend to all
@Redteam:
And you know what was in his heart how?
@retire05: Retire, I was, of course, letting RW know that he has a double standard, that Dims can become non-racist but the Repubs, once a racist, always one. Referring to Helms and Thurmond, he said they remained racists til the end. Byrd likely mellowed as most people do later in life.
@Nanny G: Cherry picking your post.
“vegetarian diet associated with lower incidence of hypertension, cholesterol problems, coronary artery disease, and certain cancers and better health behavior.”
“intake of red meat associated with increased health risk.”
“lifestyle factors like physical exercise may be more critical to lowering disease rates than individual dietary factors.” Thanks again–keep moving.
@RICH WHEELER:RW, you sure attempted to cherry pick your sentences to reflect only your general feelings or beliefs about vegetarian lifestyles. I did a little perusing and seems as if they really don’t think much of the vegetarian lifestyle and ‘claimed’ health benefits. 330 From the article Nanny G referred to in 317
must be all that ‘fish’ allowed.
whoa, red meat equals lower coronary heart disease, hmmmm…
And their summary:
Seems as if they might be recommending a lot of running, away from a vegetarian diet. Your selective cherry picking might look good in a discussion, but it seems as if your diet might put you into the ground sooner. Get back to a healthy lifestyle and quit taking all those pills.
@Redteam: Ain’t cherry picking great. You and Nan picked what you want to believe and I Quoted what I believe–another day at F.A.
My advice Vitamins and exercise are important pluses—STAY CLEAR OF DOCTORS and All Pharmaceuticals.
Keep moving—Beats the alternative.
@RICH WHEELER:
, actually the correct word for you would be ‘misquoted’.
Still can’t see a vegetarian taking handfuls of vitamin B , made from cruelly slaughtered animals, and what’s this about eating fish? You eating them alive? Surely killing them is not humane, so you must be swallowing them whole. so about 99% of your life has consisted of eating meat and maybe 1% only eating some fish and worms in water and vegetables and you credit the fish, worms and vegetables with the condition of your body? interesting. keep slapping those mosquitos and PETA will come and get you.
@RICH WHEELER:
you don’t think vitamins are pharmaceuticals?
@Redteam: Make it AVOID ALL prescribed meds- Drs only when absolutely necessary.
Show me where I misquoted anything.
If you think meat and pork and chicken from dead “farmed animals” is healthy you got your head in the sand.Good luck with that. You’re putting anti-biotics and hormones into your body. Same crap they feed these animals to abnormally speed their growth is then consumed by you. Ugly.
I’m pushing 70 and feel great. No meds-no meat- vitamin supplements- exercise every day. Feel great.
Be glad that whatever you’re doing works for you.
@RICH WHEELER:
Really? What would be the point? You know it, I know it, others that have read it, know it. You don’t need to be publicly humiliated. (assuming your humiliation means anything one way or the other)
If you are not taking all prescribed meds, that is a foolish act. Why go to a doctor if you’re not gonna follow his advice?
You read that study, those that were eating the meat were healthier than the vegetarians. You’re the one that said you’re taking oodles of B12, that’s made from those farmed animals. Is that B12 bad for you?
No I’m not. No doctor has prescribed any of those for me lately.
According to your own words, you were also pushing 70 and eating all those meats and exercising and feeling great. Be thankful you ate healthy enough to get to the stage where you can start to trim back a little without having to do more than take tons of supplements (made from animals) to replace what you’re not eating. Your input is apparently the same, just in different forms. Pills made from animals instead of just eating the animal. (and still getting tons of protein from all that bacteria in your water, it’s animals(consumed while still alive) Rich)
@Redteam: Misquote in #330? Don’t feel bad about embarrassing me or yourself—point it out.
btw Comparing mosquitos to cows is kinda like comparing the gleam in your father’s eyes to you as a teenager.
You actually think anyone other than Bees and occasionally O5 read our inane back and forth? Get over yourself.lol
@RICH WHEELER:
Are you saying that you write what you do for others consumption? I write what I write because it is what I want to say for me. I don’t care who reads any of it. I strongly suspect we would all be surprised how many people skip what all of us write.
I know it, you know it, that’s all that it makes a difference to. If in your opinion your quote was correct, then so be it. You’re only fooling yourself.
What? with all your boo hooing when you thought a little bee got a wing tore off and now it doesn’t bother you to slap and murder a poor little defenseless mosquito? I thought you were concerned about the humane treatment of ALL animals, not just the ones YOU think is important. Well, what the hell, humans don’t matter, so I don’t know why mosquitoes should either. You better make an extra donation to PETA for all those mosquitoes you’re slapping and all those bacteria you’re drinking.