Apparently Concerns About Federal Overreaching Are Now Racist

Well yes. Everything is racist.

Oh, not racist at all as we’ve now come to learn from your land mooching idle that construes freeloading off the government and selectively choosing what laws he doesn’t have to abide by (which happens to be those pesky ones that interferes with his profits)as patriotic, of course as long as you’re wealthy and have plenty of guns (or, something) and from one that doesn’t believe in the federal government (while waving an American flag) is that if you blame him for for his bigoted remarks and suggestions of African Americans being better off in the cotton fields under Jim Crow laws, well, that’s just all Martin Luther King Jr’s fault, or, or, or something along those lines of profound ignorance.

@Ronald J. Ward: @Kraken: I continue to find it interesting that contributors here will attempt to engage in political arguments when they are obviously ignorant of today’s politics.

It’s also interesting that some will attempt to identify English or grammar errors when once again, it’s clear they don’t know what they’re talking about. The length of a sentence has nothing to do with it being a run on sentence. “I yell dog bites.” is a run on sentence.

It is however consistent that contributors here will soporifically try to disqualify an argument with a distraction that is pretty much an admission that the dog ate their homework .

I seriously doubt that anyone would expect for you to know if it’s coherent or not but your admission to that is noted.

@Ditto:

As usual RJW brings out his carpet-bag of strawmen, so he can deflect from considering the opinions of some blacks on Cliven’s words. No one has said that Cliven’s poorly phrased remarks could not be interpreted as sounding racist. Nor does anyone approve of his’ off the cuff’ words. What some in the local black community have said is simply that they didn’t feel that there was racist intent behind his words. They also see this as a media attempt to evade the issue of the BLM’s overhanded thuggery, and instead use it to go after Cliven in typical Alynski tactics. Perhaps RJW thinks these Blacks are also racist.

I’m sure that “some blacks” have a wide range of opinions, even those opinions that you suggest. However, invoking the opinions of “some blacks” certainly doesn’t speak for African Americans in general. I’m sure, as you say that “some in the local black community have said is simply that they didn’t feel that there was racist intent behind his words” yet that seems a bit cherry picking as from your own admission, no one has said that Cliven’s poorly phrased remarks could not be interpreted as sounding racist.

The speciousness and cowardliness really jumps the shark when you say things like “Perhaps RJW thinks these Blacks are also racist”. Your argument could have had as much credence had you said something like “perhaps RJW thinks the sun revolves around the earth” or “perhaps RJW thinks little green men from Mars have infiltrated the U.S. government”.

But as anyone of reasonable intelligence that bothers to read this thread understands, that’s perhaps not what I said and they also know that African Americans by any significant or even minute numbers do not endorse Bundy’s statements.

And then of course in the pathetic attempt of the rubber/glue game you play, I’m the one presenting that carpet-bag of strawmen.

You simply join the ranks of the long list (which in reality is probably a very small list as sock puppets are cheap and you are all so, well, obvious) of those that can’t constructively debate a political argument on it’s merit, resorting to distraction tactics to save face from your childish Obama/Democrat bashing .

Black Bundy Bodyguard: He’s Not A Racist; “I’d Take A Bullet For That Man”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/25/black_bundy_bodyguard_hes_not_a_racist_id_take_a_bullet_for_that_man.html

Let’s all enjoy RJW’s thesaurus mined ramblings as he attempts to respond to this by weaving a new logic involving Jim Crow laws and Uncle Toms and other amusing tales of sick racial obsession.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Ronald, as is typical with Collective detritus such as yourself, you’ve repeatedly illustrated your inability to process new information. You’ve written hilariously adolescent laundry lists of gripes, which constitute nothing more than misunderstandings of various political views. I present cited and linked information that routinely illustrates that you have no idea what you’re talking about on any level, yet you persist in continuing to parrot the same assigned rhetoric as though the information hadn’t been presented to you at all. This indicates the blatant ineducable nature of Collective Drones, which relegates you to nothing more than entertainment for thinking people; a caged freak to poke sticks at and chuckle at the responses. Other than that, you’re clearly a worthless piece of garbage, as is evidenced by your societal function, or lack thereof.

@Ronald J. Ward:

It’s not so much that I don’t understand it at all. Rather, it’s that I understand it as incoherence. I think I get what you were trying to communicate, it’s just that it wasn’t articulated very well.

But much of what you like to laundry list are complaints about political positions that no one is taking, which is where much of your misunderstanding arises. Frankly it’s bizarre. I don’t know if you’re intentionally lying, if you’ve simply bought into the Collective’s indoctrination wholesale and just don’t know any better, or some combination of the two.

Here’s an example of what I’m talking about.

has an abject disdain for the lower class to be able to acquire health insurance

That’s one of your claims with regards to what this blog and by extension the right wing supports. Yet, if I challenge you to find a quote where a right winger on this blog or anywhere else has stated that they have an abject disdain for the lower class to be able to acquire health insurance, you will fail. Because no one has made this statement. So you’re weirdly arguing against points that no one has ever made. How can one interpret this other than a manifestation of mental illness?

Here’s an item from another one of your laundry lists.

or ending health care reform with no replacement

Now, I can go ahead, and respond by presenting the following link:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/mvespa/2013/09/09/republicans-have-introduced-alternatives-to-obamacare-for-years/

What we find there is a list of ObamaCare alternatives. And not just a list written by some right wing blogger. The list is hyperlinked, sourced, to PDF and other files of the actual alternative Republican plans. You can download them, print them out, hold them in your hand, read them, post them on bulletin boards, etc.

But I can guarantee you, that within 5 seconds of reading this, you will be posting either here or elsewhere the same discredited rhetoric, rather than actually taking a look at the alternatives and formulating a new argument based on the introduction of the new information.

If you are unable to alter the trajectory of emotionally satisfying rhetoric when presented with new information, then you have no value as an intellectual.

You’re really just entertaining.

@Ronald J. Ward:

I must say, that you’re the first person I’ve ever encountered that actually types out their stutter. It certainly ads to your entertainment value.

By the way, weren’t you supposed to be ignoring me or something?

@Ronald J. Ward:#3

and selectively choosing what laws he doesn’t have to abide by (which happens to be those pesky ones that interferes with his profits)as patriotic

Just exactly how is that different than Holder deciding which laws he will enforce, or BHO deciding which laws he will enforce. If the enforcers get to choose which laws they like, can’t the enforcees get to choose which laws they like?

@Ronald J. Ward: #7

they also know that African Americans by any significant or even minute numbers do not endorse Bundy’s statements.

RJW, just to turn it around, this statement could be made: ” they also know that African Americans by any significant or even minute numbers do not endorse refute Bundy’s statements.

Let’s say Clive Bundy is a racist. Let’s say he refused to pay/dodged his taxes. Let’s say that he was sued in court, lost and refuses to pay up. Let’s say that his actions caused another grievous harm and that his actions will cause others to lose their lives. Let’s also say that he has lied about his intentions, and he is really just a fraud.

Does that mean he will now get his own show on MSNBC?

@Redteam:

I agree with you Kraken, especially about RJW, but it also seems to be true of other libs on this site. They all tend to ignore legitimate arguments and pretend it doesn’t exist then go along as if what they’ve said is gospel.

I would argue that it’s true of every drone in the Collective.

It would be one thing for instance, if after presented with that link they would come back and say, “well Republican plan #1 isn’t any good because of X, Y, or Z, Republican plan #2 doesn’t cut it because of A, B, C,” and so on. Or if they would compare the provisions in the various Republican plans with the provisions in ObamaCare and explain why they feel those are superior. But they don’t. They’re simply unable to break free of the intellectual cage that the Collective confines them in, where they are directed to keep repeating clearly discredited rhetoric, even when it isn’t applicable. Hell, not only can’t they be bothered to acknowledge the reality of multiple alternative Republican plans and read them, the people that they sent to Washington couldn’t even be bothered to read the bill that they did support and passed. It’s simply astonishing that any of them would actually think that their opinions are in any way credible, or have any kind of value.

One of the most bizarre aspects of the drone’s psychopathology, is how they like to argue against points that no on is making. It’s as though they have a statement they want to make, but in order to make it, they have to manufacture the inverse argument and assign it their political adversaries so they can make the point they want to make. I’m convinced this is at least partially related to schizophrenia where patients have entire conversations with phantoms. It’s weird.

Take a look at RJWs rant after I had gone off to bed. He goes off about some birther/truther-esque conspiracy, the likes of which I haven’t seen since Languatron was babbling about Universal Executives and stealth marketing on the old Battlestar Galactica discussion boards. For some reason he seems to feel that the more flowery his insults are, the more credibility he has, when in fact the opposite is true. RJW is not a man that is dealing with a full deck.

@Ronald J. Ward:

Kraken disappears only to sign in as a different number of trolls

Actually, if you knew anything about the integrity of the owner of this blog, and its moderation, you would know that no one is allowed to post using multiple monikers. So your claim that people who post here are using multiple monikers is just plain false and only an idle thought running through your own brain.

@Ronald J. Ward:

@Redteam: We now have sockpuppet #2

I was sockpuppet(sic) no. 1. Can’t you keep your sockpuppets (sic)straight?

Did you get your required OFA names all included in this one comment? Do they give you a bonus for that?

@Ronald J. Ward:

That’s simply another ridiculous argument to compliment another ridiculous argument.

I gave the links to the videos and to one of their web page articles. We all agree that Cliven Bundy is somewhat of an ignoramus, and such people are prone to say stupid poorly worded things. Those blacks that have stood besides him for weeks and given their affidavit have said ‘that he is not a racist, just a poor orator’ are more convincing to me than edited-out-of-context MSM clips and OFA trolls like you who have never met the man. I refuse to accept the frothing at the mouth lynch mob mentality that brands a man a racist when their is witness evidence to the contrary. Your Alynski mind tricks don’t work on us. All you have provided is smoke out of your ass in support of your witch trial.

@Kraken:

RJW is not a man that is dealing with a full deck.

I concur. RJW definitely seems to have a screw loose.

@retire05: I seldom read your gubberish for obvious reasons but considering how I’ve pretty much called out your fraudulent argumentative skills, I made an exception.

Actually, if you knew anything about the integrity of the owner of this blog, and its moderation, you would know that no one is allowed to post using multiple monikers. So your claim that people who post here are using multiple monikers is just plain false and only an idle thought running through your own brain.

Just when you thought things couldn’t get more stupid, my claim is proven false because Retire05 says that this is a blog of good integrity. While it’s true I don’t know the owner(s), we’re to take the word of Retire05? That’s just too funny.

@Redteam:” I was sockpuppet(sic) no. 1. Can’t you keep your sockpuppets (sic)straight?”
Well to be honest, that is a tall order as well as something undeserving of much effort. But aside from that, in all seriousness, what possible difference does it make?

PC is NOT law.
Political correctness is a fad started on college campuses to redefine debates so liberals could appear to win.
In case any of you wonder whether a philosophy is good, the test is, ”what if everybody did it.”
So, we have a recent example of how PC has destroyed debate on colleges.

Two Towson University students, Ameena Ruffin and Korey Johnson, became the first African-American women to win a national college debate tournament, for which the resolution asked whether the U.S. president’s war powers should be restricted. Rather than address the resolution straight on, Ruffin and Johnson, along with other teams of African-Americans, attacked its premise. The more pressing issue, they argued, is how the U.S. government is at war with poor black communities.

In the final round, Ruffin and Johnson squared off against Rashid Campbell and George Lee from the University of Oklahoma, two highly accomplished African-American debaters with distinctive dreadlocks and dashikis. Over four hours, the two teams engaged in a heated discussion of concepts like “nigga authenticity” and performed hip-hop and spoken-word poetry in the traditional timed format. At one point during Lee’s rebuttal, the clock ran out but he refused to yield the floor. “F**k the time!” he yelled.

In the ”old days,” before PC the ”debaters” would have been disqualified for the rule break of being ”non-topical.”
Not here.
In the ”old days,” debate was logical, supported by facts and statistics. Anecdotal evidence was worthless, and personal anecdotes were never used.
Not here.

See, being called ”racist,” is so scary we are (the PC crowd of cowards) throwing away the baby to get rid of the dirty bathwater.
And now PC is supposed to be obeyed outside of college campuses.
No way!
In the USA we have Freedom of Speech.
That means we are free to use un-PC terms.

BLACK LEADER SAYS BUNDY REMARKS NOT RACIST