Andrew McCarthy & Jonathan Turley pour cold water on latest Trump indictments

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via Twitchy:

Washington, DC special counsel Jack Smith has charged former president and current presidential candidate Donald Trump with four counts related to the events of January 6, 2021.

Spencer Brown at Townhall reports:

A federal grand jury empaneled in Washington, D.C. returned a new indictment on Tuesday evening in its ongoing investigation of the events following the 2020 election, including the events of and leading up to January 6, 2021.

But the grand jury’s indictment delivered to a judge on Tuesday remained sealed, the indictment — obtained by Townhall — confirms that Donald J. Trump is the defendant.

The indictment lists four violations of which the 45th president is being accused:

Here are the four counts:

Count 1: Conspiracy to Defraud the United States

Count 2: Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding

Count 3: Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding

Count 4: Conspiracy Against Rights

As far as initial analysis, former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy said Jack Smith is reaching:

George Washington University law professor Jonathan Turley seems skeptical of the latest Trump indictment:

In other words, this is just the latest attempt to interfere in next year’s election on the part of the Left/Democrats.

Stay tuned!

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Democrats want to make sexual abuse of children “normal”. They also want imprisonment of political opponents normal, as long as THEY are calling the shots.

Of course it’s obvious. What Trump did is obvious. That is was criminal is obvious. That he’s a danger to America is obvious.

That’s exactly what he said, and that’s exactly what the criminal justice system is doing. The Constitution, the rule of law, and the Union are being vigorously defended from the most serious domestic threat since the Civil War.

“We have to demonstrate that he WILL NOT take power — if he does run — by making sure he, under the legitimate efforts of the Constitution, DOES NOT become the next president again.”

Ever hear the story of “Chicken Little”? The sky is falling? Well, this is Chicken SHIT Little. The more charges you bring, the less seriously they are taken and the less respect, among people that actually acknowledge the existence of the Constitution and respect it, for the DOJ. Your corrupt Democrats have utterly destroyed government credibility, and that includes trust in honest elections.

Yeah, what Trump did is obvious. He showed the amazing results that can be accomplished by a patriot that only cares about serving the nation, not lining their pockets. In contrast, idiot Biden shows us the typical corrupt, greedy politician, that puts his personal gain before everything, including national security. Trump exposed Democrat failure and how much can be accomplished for the American people by simply doing the job he was elected to do.

Using a constitutional process can not be judge as a conspiracy. There the case is done.

What Trump and accomplices tried to do WAS NOT a Constitutional process. His own undeniably conservative Vice President stopped it.

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What about the Electoral Count Act? Nothing in it justifies Trump’s illegal actions.

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What about the Electoral Count Act? Nothing in it justifies Trump’s illegal actions.

I see you’re proving what a dumass you are again. Keep trying to play attorney, Comrade Greggie. The more you post, the dumber you look.

You’re an idiot.

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Last edited 1 year ago by TrumpWon

I’m asking for specificity. Have you got any?

The Special Counsel does, and a federal grand jury agreed.

Last edited 1 year ago by Greg

Read this, sh!t head; it is not my responsibility to give you a law lesson. You’re the one who pretends to be such a legal eagle. So you, once again, show what an idiot you are with such a response to me.

A federal jury will indict a ham sandwich because the ham sandwich is not allowed to defend itself in a grand jury hearing.

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greg wants to hook someone into a circular pointless comment vs comment.

He knows damn well what the act is and what isn’t purpose is.

Don’t feed trolls.

Last edited 1 year ago by TrumpWon

In fact, you have no specifics. Nothing in the Electoral Count Act of 1887 justifies what Trump did—and his lawyers knew it. They also knew he actually lost the election.

The co-conspirators have not been charged. Can you figure out why that is?

I’ll make a wild guess. Because they’re going to be called on to testify under oath.

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Alternate electors properly designated by state authorities are not the same as phony electors secretly chosen and set up with fraudulent credentials

How do these “charges” get around the Electoral Count Act of 1887, which expressly authorizes alternative slates of electors?

Congress altered the Electoral Count Act to clarify that the VP couldn’t interfere with the count process, as Trump pressured Pence to do. Fortunately in this case intimidation of the VP didn’t work.

 Nothing in the Electoral Count Act of 1887 justifies what Trump did—

OK, rainman, name the offense Trump committed and the federal statute that applies to that offense. Let’s see just how much you really know.

But you’re a coward and you’ve got nothing.

I’m in no mood for social media ping-pong. I already listed the four counts he’s charged with in a different thread. Or read the Indictment. There’s a link I posted to it in this thread.

Trump to Pence, after Pence declined to participate in the scheme: “You’re too honest.”

That appears in quotation marks. Somebody quoted Trump, in sworn testimony. Very few people would have been present to hear. He or she will probably be a witness.

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I’m in no mood for social media ping-pong.

IOW, you ain’t got sh!t.

I already listed the four counts he’s charged with in a different thread.

So what? The four counts are based on what statutes, moron?

18 U.S. Code § 371 – Conspiracy to commit offense or to defraud United States;
18 U.S. Code § 1512 – Tampering with a witness, victim, or an informant;
18 U.S. Code § 241 – Conspiracy against rights
—————
You need to learn how to look things up for yourself.

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Greg was looking for the paragraph in the law that says, “Orange Man Bad”, since that is their one and only motivation. They have no definition of that, no evidence, no provocation. Just the visceral desire to eliminate an unbeatable (by those who offer nothing but failure) political opponent.

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The Simple Explanation for the Democrat and Media Blackout on the Biden Scandals

If you’ve been following the news, you have undoubtedly noticed that some media outlets, along with a lot of Democrats, are in a total state of denial about what is unfolding around Joe and Hunter Biden.

Some liberal media outlets are ignoring the news outright, while some Democrats pathetically try to spin Joe’s involvement with the things Hunter did.

There’s a simple reason for this.

Admitting any of it would implicate them too. The same goes for much of the intelligence community.

A political consultant named Shane Harris recently wrote at the Association of Mature Citizens:

The National Scandal That Is Too Big To Break

Conservatives looking to expose the full extent of the Biden family’s corruption have a problem: the scandal might be too big to break.

Typically, there are three main entities involved in taking down a politician over a corruption scandal. First, there is the media, which broadcasts the details of the scandal, eroding public support. Second, there is law enforcement, which investigates and, if necessary, presses criminal charges. Third, there is the party establishment, which ultimately abandons the politician as a matter of self-preservation, signaling that it’s “game over.”

But what happens when a scandal is so big that the people responsible for breaking it are implicated in it as well?

That is the situation which now faces the mainstream media, the federal intelligence bureaucracy, and the Democrat Party. For years, they have all parroted Biden’s lies and created an echo chamber of denial about wrongdoing by the president and his family. Now, with it all beginning to crumple around them, they’re seeing that the downfall of the president spells the end of their own reputations and careers as well.

That’s it in a nutshell.

Do you think anyone at CNN, the New York Times or the Washington Post are ever going to admit that they got everything wrong? It’s impossible. They can’t face it.

The country is suffering through this madness because these childish actors can’t face the truth or admit their role in it.

Smith looked surprised because he was told to immediately indict Trump so as to deflect from the Devon archer testimony against the Biden crime family syndicate. Anyone with a brain should be able to see this from a mile away. It’s all theatre. This was all preplanned. It is performative. They played the “indict Trump “ card to get media to report on that 24/7 as a distraction from Devon Archer. The damning testimony from Archer affirms what we have known about joe biden selling America, a treasonous act.

The February 2021 Senate impeachment trial of President Trump ended with a verdict of Not Guilty with respect to inciting an insurrection at the US Capitol.

How can these recent criminal charges, allegedly brought about in an attempt to facilitate an insurrection, be brought against the President if he has been found not guilty of the precipitating act (insurrection)?

Article I, Section 3, Clause 7 of the Constitution states, “Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.”
President Trump was NOT CONVICTED in the 2021 Senate trial; therefore he is not liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment or Punishment. He is indemnified from any further legal action. It is time to end this bipartisan effort to prevent President Trump from returning to office.

Is this latest salvo of charges by Jack Smith (via Lawfare) not an attempt to reverse (with rhetoric) the 2021 Senate verdict, while simultaneously bringing to bear the full force of the “Indictment, Trial, Judgment or Punishment” phase of Article I, Section 3, Clause 7 of the Constitution, which the 2021 Senate verdict made moot?

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Count 1: Conspiracy to Defraud the United States

Count 2: Conspiracy to Obstruct an Official Proceeding

Count 3: Obstruction of and Attempt to Obstruct an Official Proceeding

Count 4: Conspiracy Against Rights

Idiot Biden is guilty of every bit of this. Where does the government find such slimy scum like Jack Smith to carry out the Democrat’s fascist operations? As the charges get weaker and weaker (coinciding with every new revelation of idiot Biden’s corruption), it becomes more and more clear that the idea isn’t to convict Trump on anything, just scoreboard and rack up an impressive list of indictments and charges. Then, they claim, “Trump is evil. Look at all the charges and indictments. Has Hillary been indicted? Has sweet old Joe been indicted? NO. They are pure as the driven snow and Orange Man Bad.”

To the Democrats, the DOJ is a plaything, a weapon. A political tool to wield against political opponents and to use to shield corrupt Democrats (and their kids) from embarrassing prosecution. The sheer joy of destroying innocent people’s lives is just a bonus.

Clinton(Bill)and Obama sold America out Biden follows in their footsteps this whole thing against Trump is going to backfire on the UN Globalists/DNC M.S. Media Bottom Feeders

As the Democrats beat their Brains out over this whole thing