AFTERSHOCK: BLM Destroyed Water Tanks, Shot Bundy Bulls, Ran Over Tortoise Dens

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Jim Hoft:

Bureau of Land Management officials destroyed water lines and water tanks belonging to the Cliven Bundy family. The feds also shot two prized bulls and ran over at least one endangered tortoise den.

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FOX News reported:

The federal agency that backed down over the weekend in a tense standoff with a Nevada rancher is being accused of leaving a trail of wreckage behind.

Fox News toured the damage — allegedly caused by the Bureau of Land Management — which included holes in water tanks and destroyed water lines and fences. According to family friends, the bureau’s hired “cowboys” also killed two prize bulls.

“They had total control of this land for one week, and look at the destruction they did in one week,” said Corey Houston, friend of rancher Cliven Bundy and his family. “So why would you trust somebody like that? And how does that show that they’re a better steward?”

The BLM and other law enforcement officials backed down on Saturday in their effort to seize Bundy’s cattle, after hundreds of protesters, some armed, arrived to show support for the Bundy family. In the end, BLM officials left the scene amid concerns about safety, and no shots were fired.

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So let me see if I can get this straight.

The BLM, which is charging grazing fees in part to protect an endangered tortoise, and which also plans to euthanize the very tortoises they are charging ranchers fees to protect, ran over the dens of the tortoises that they are simultaneously protecting and euthanizing?

Is that correct?

@Kraken: OK, let me explain this… please sit down for it.

This administration is rife with lying thieves and nothing they ever say in any way represents the actual circumstances.

So what was the purpose of shooting the bulls?

Shouldn’t PETA or the ASPCA or the ALF or inmates from some other activist asylum be marching and chanting at the BLM’s offices right about now?

@Kraken: One would think running animals to death or separating the calves from the mommas, inducing starvation or death by predator would arouse their ire, but we tend to forget that the left has no principled reasons for their outrage. They only protest what is politically beneficial.

@Bill #4 –

…but we tend to forget that the left has no principled reasons for their outrage. They only protest what is politically beneficial.

Bill ‘we’ don’t forget…

…which is why we need someone with the guts to stick a finger in their faces and point this out to these stupid liberals…every time they start whining about nonsense when we ‘know’ it is for political benefit of which all of it is….in the end…

@Kraken#1 – That is correct. I also read (one or some of these liberal idiots) wanted to ‘relocate’ the tortoise in another (new) habitat…to pave way for Harry Reid et al to invade their habitat for the sake of Money….a failed green initiative like most of them is a no brainer…so it has to be for the money

Now if that is true…and these people can ‘get away’ with doing that…then what was ‘their big stink’ about that Delta Smelt out in California…?? ( “the EPA is wrong in shutting off the water to farmers in the San Joaquin Valley, California in order to save the delta smelt (a minnow).”

Save The Minnow-Sacrifice Humans: What’s Wrong With This Picture?

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And no one sees the hypocrisy and FAKE CONCERN with these Liberals??? Especially when they want the Ball in their court???

When you have range cattle in wild open country, they become more feral than domestic. Bulls are never safe, but when you are trying to gather up range cattle with cowboys of dubious abilities and moral backgrounds, some bulls will be extremely dangerous. It is far easier to shoot them than having them disrupt the proceedings. This was entirely predictable; in fact, while I was working in the area and was told about the gathering by contract using non local cowboys, ( no local cowboys signed up for the very lucrative money, but traitors are always around), I said to my customers and friends, “They will shoot most of the bulls.”

I doubt that they will get better hands in the future, real cowboys don’t participate in this immoral type of work for a few pieces of silver.

You realize that these men went there with the expectation that they might take a bullet from Obama and Reid’s henchmen.

If you want to see a real manly specimen, go to you tube and look at the BLM goon from Portland who threw the middle aged woman to the ground like an NFL linebacker throws down a runner. That is the type of cowardly Obama thugs they will send to your house if you speak out against the regime or get behind in your health care extortion.

Yea, take a good look and think about what you will do when they come for your business and possessions. These people are taking a stand against Obama’s tyranny, you better pay attention, so you will have the backbone to stand up against these thugs when they come for you.

@Skook: The Forest Service is similar to the BLM. They are closing off roads in the forests that could be used to fight the massive fires that will cover Colorado since the Forest Service is not issuing permits fast enough to remove the dead trees on over 30 million acres. Here is another big government vs little guy. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04/08/colorado-couple-fights-unusual-eminent-domain-bid-to-seize-land/

Cliven Bundy is a tax evader. What he doesn’t pay, other law abiding citizens have to. The man is freeloading. He’s been doing so for decades.

@Greg:

Cliven Bundy is a tax evader. What he doesn’t pay, other law abiding citizens have to.

So is Al Sharpton. Why aren’t SWAT teams surrounding his house?

It is not unusual for ranchers to get behind on payments, especially during the Obama economy. The only businesses that thrive are the result of being at the trough for Obama money, like those on Wall Street.

Are you that familiar with the situation?

Do people have an opportunity to air their grievances or do we accept Obama’s edicts as the supreme decision?

If you are in financial trouble, can he come in and confiscate your business, your home, your tools, your bank accounts?

Perhaps this is the template for those of us that can’t afford our Obama Care extortion money. You better be a damn good Democrat if you can’t afford your extortion money.

@Skook:

Not only was the BLM using non-local cowboys, they were using contractors to man their guns, men like former Navy SEALs. And let us not forget that it was just this past February that BLM agents shot a man to death, after tazing him multiple times and using a police baton on him, because he resisted them. What was the man doing? Walking down the side of a road.

Now, I have to ask; if a half dozen BLM agents pulled up along side of you and told you to get in their car, and when you didn’t they started beating you with a police baton and tazing you, would you put up a fight? Would you do what the pedestrian did, try to seek safety in another vehicle? The BLM shot the man SEVEN times. Seems a bit over the top to me. Any trained LEO would know how to neutralize someone without shooting them seven times.

@Greg: They refused his money for years and have litigated against him numerous times. He is the last of the Mohicans and the Reids are getting ready for the fun in the sun boondoggle. Desert tortoises- my sweet behind.

BLM storm troopers in fatigues? These are pogues who chase secretaries and choke their Cheri chicken when no me is looking. Yes , near the field of battle, I heard first hand about the snipers and the non acceptance of payments, these ranchers hav decided they have had enough of Obama’s Communism and they are the first to stand up to the thugs and punks Obama is ready to throw at them. They are ready and fully expect to be shot and maybe killed to say they have had enough of this bastard.

Oh yea that young agent from Portland who is so tough with women is more than welcome to step in the ring or octagon with me. His life is going to be hell after proving what a tough guy he is. I am more than ready.

@retire05: @Greg: All of a sudden, the left worries about someone paying taxes owed. As you mentioned, retire05, Rev Al is not obligated to pay his, Obama seems to seek out tax cheats to nominate to cabinet posts. And, of course, the end all for tax advice and how much should be paid, Warren Buffett, keeps over a billion owed by Berkshire Hathaway.

Perhaps the liberals should stand aside and let us taxpayers decide who is allowed to get by without paying taxes and who owes. I think that would be much more equitable.

@Greg:

Cliven Bundy is a tax evader.

In other words he’s earned a Medal of Freedom.

What he doesn’t pay, other law abiding citizens have to. The man is freeloading.

This of course is incorrect. He’s not at all freeloading, since the fruits of his labor belongs to him alone, not to government, nor to lazy socialists such as yourself who cry for a piece of his pie.

Rather, it’s government and lazy socialist activists who are the freeloaders, who parasitically demand the fruit of other people’s labor without doing anything productive themselves.

@retire05:

So is Al Sharpton. Why aren’t SWAT teams surrounding his house?

Because that would be racist.

@Bill:

Perhaps the liberals should stand aside and let us taxpayers decide who is allowed to get by without paying taxes and who owes. I think that would be much more equitable.

According to the Collective’s arbitrary Social Justice guidelines, anyone who has wealth that they want to use for their bizarre social experimentation ought to pay taxes. But as Social Justice dictates, those who mete out this social justice need not pay taxes.

Remember, hypocrisy is the foundation of all leftist thought.

@Kraken:and Skook I stand with Bundy on this.

Semper Fi

Yes, owing taxes is a way to advance to the upper levels of the Obama Administration. Like turbo Tax Geithner was the only man capable of handling a job so tough, only a tax cheat could possibly understand the Obama economic plan. Clive Bundy is probably expecting a cabinet level position.

If he had the protesters say they were OWS, the BLM and snipers would have been pulled back immediately, but they were just everyday ranchers, “Shoot to kill!”.

In the Obama Republic, the right to protest is reserved for Obama Loyalists, drug addicts, and rapists.

A Medal of Freedom, that’s rich, good grief!

Retire, #12, that is a very disturbing story. It’s hard to predict your response, especially if you are aware of your rights as a citizen, being second class rights to an illegal alien. Many of us refuse to regard the BLM as a police department with the right to arrest and detain. Some of us have the where withal to resist, but resisting several armed men who have no police powers that I know of is akin to a combat situation.

There has been blood and there will be more blood flowing before the public accepts the idea of BLM agents as Obama storm troopers who have the right to indiscriminately kill Americans who don’t submit.

According to Harry Reid’s Collectivese, we’re all just a bunch of domestic terrorists.

Plus, Reid’s kid wants Bundy’s land for a solar boondoggle.

Did BLM Bury Bundy Cattle In Mass Grave?

http://benswann.com/did-blm-bury-bundy-cattle-in-mass-grave-warning-graphic-images/

So where’s all the animal rights freaks anyway?

@Skook:

It’s hard to predict your response, especially if you are aware of your rights as a citizen, being second class rights to an illegal alien.

Skook, I’m a Texan. No one in this nation understands our rights as citizens of our state, and our nation, more than we do. My state spends millions of $$ each year doing the job the federal government refuses to do on our southern border. We also fully understand the 2nd Amendment and our state laws reflect that understanding. It is legal to walk into our state Capital carrying a long barrel.

And you’re right about the BLM not being a policing agency. They have no police powers, although I do believe the National Forestry Service does.

@retire05: Our president has dressed them like storm troopers and has given them weapons, and soon, I expect to see Obama’s IRS goons in fatigues and carrying weapons. If they stop you on the street and you keep on walking. They will have the power to shoot you down like a mad dog, but perhaps you have refused to pay your affordable health care payments because you had a downturn in business or maybe you lost business or maybe cattle prices were down. According to Obama and his goons, you have no more rights. His goons can surround your house and shoot your raggedy ass because you are behind on your extortion payments.

Welcome to the Obama’s People’s Republic of America. If I were a Texan, I’d be campaigning to secede. America has a good chance of electing Hillary, the one who did a thesis on the Communist Alinsky and worshipped him as a hero. A country that elects another Communist might as well accept and promote itself as a Communist country, it might eliminate a few enemies, and it will make the Progressive Communists who have been living in drag much happier. Our new Obama thugs from the BLM can really throw their weight around and the up and coming bureaucracies can get rid of those neckties and wear their fatigues with a sidearm. Obama Stormtroopers will be the new heroes, do what Obama wants or get your ass kicked.

@Kraken:

Shouldn’t PETA

I’d think PETA would be celebrating, it’s two more bulls they won’t have to kill and get rid of.

Harry Reid took to the Senate floor and called these ranchers (all of them, not just the Bundy’s) ”domestic terrorists.”

O’REILY YOU SAID TO BE TIRED OF THE ONES WHO REPEAT,
THE CONSTITUTION, THE CONSTITUTION,
well my friend, get use to it , it”s the only one who make sense,
in AMERICA, AND FOR AMERICAN OF GOOD WILL,
you can’t get better than that, and , you and those trashing it will disappear, IN TIME
BUT THE CONSTITUTION IS HERE TO STAY AND PROTECT THE PEOPLE,

THE BLM THUGS destroy the land they ran over the tortoises burough, destroying it,
they separate the mother and baby calves, they broke the water lines
they destroy the places where the rancher gathered the cattle,
and kill cattles and two prize bulls,
and they freaken left after,
they would diserve to have their ass full of bullet,
this worth more money than what they want to collect,
THEY ARE THE TERRORIST AND SHOULD BE ARRESTED, FOR INVADING THE GOOD PEOPLE TO
GET MONEY FROM THEM,
THEY DESTROYED OTHER CATTLE RANCH WHO WHERE SO OFTEN HARASS, THEY LEFT THEIR RANCH,
BUT THIS ONE IS THE LAST ONE WHO WAS IN THEIR WAY TO GET THEIR DEAL WITH CHINA
DONE,
AND IT FAIL, THAT REID IS HAVING A FIT WITH HIS SON, YELLING TERRORIST ON GOOD FAMILY
OF AMERICANS,

IT WAS SAID THAT THE MANY GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND ELECTED OWE A BIG AMOUNT OF MONEY ON TAX FOR YEARS FOR SOME,
HOW COME, YOU SEND A GROUP ARMED AND GIVEN THE RIGHT TO KILL, THEY CHASE A RANCHER WHO WORK HARD TO EARN HIS MONEY,
HE ALREADY PAID HIS TAX HE SAID IT AND WE BELIEVE HIM,
let’S see if all the government public employees pay,
they are suppose to show exemplary life to the citizens,
if they don.T pay for years and the IRS NEVER GOT HOLD ON THEM ,
WHAT IS SO CORRUPT IN ALL THE LEVELS OF AGENCY, SUPPOSE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO COLLECT THE CITIZENS,
CLEAN YOUR GOVERNMENT FIRST, AND GET OFF THE GOOD PEOPLE’S BACK,
YOU HAVE DESTROY OTHER RANCHERS YOU HAVE CAUSE THE FATHER AND MOTHER OF EGGET RANCHER TO DIE FROM HARASSMENT, HE IS STILL FIGHTING YOUR CORRUPTION, YOU UP THERE ON THE HILL HAVE SHOWN UNWORTHY OF BEING IN LEADERSHIP, OF THAT SO TOLERANT NATION, SUPERIOR CLASS
OF GOOD PEOPLE,
YOU TOOK THE SHINING HILLS AND YOU HAVE MADE THEM DARK, AS HELL,
WITH YOUR CORRUPTION, ANY SPEECH YOU GIVE IS NO MORE LISTEN TOO, BY THE PEOPLE,
YOU ARE LEFT WITH THE 47 PER CENT WHOM YOU PAY FOR STANDING BEHIND YOU ,
WAITING TILL YOU SHUT UP, TO GO HOME,
ANY HARASSMENT AND WRONG DONE BY YOUR THUGS IS
ORIGINATE FROM THE WHITE HOUSE RESPONSIBILITY,
TO DECISIONS ON WHO GET THE VISIT FROM THEM,
YOU ARE EXPOSE AND THERE IS NO PLACE TO HIDE ANYMORE,

@Greg:

Cliven Bundy is a tax evader. What he doesn’t pay, other law abiding citizens have to. The man is freeloading. He’s been doing so for decades.

Where is your proof that Bundy is a tax evader? Have you seen his Federal income taxes and the quarterly tax filings of his ranching business? Or are you just showing everyone (yet again) what an ignorant ass you are. According to the Federal Government and SCOTUS fees and fines are not taxes.

Reid claimed that Bundy viewed the United States as a “foreign government,” while accusing his supporters of goading violence.

“There were hundreds, hundreds of people from around the country that came there,” Reid said. “They had sniper rifles in the freeway. They had weapons, automatic weapons. They had children lined up. They wanted to make sure they got hurt first … What if others tried the same thing?”

Despite Reid’s characterization of Bundy supporters as “domestic terrorists,” the only violence metered out during the dispute was when BLM agents tasered and assaulted Bundy supporters during an incident on April 9.

No matter where you stand on the Bundy issue, Reid’s characterization of American protesters as “domestic terrorists” is chilling and a massive backlash is almost certain to follow.

It also fits the narrative that the federal government has been pushing for years through literature such as the MIAC report, which framed Ron Paul supporters, libertarians, people who display bumper stickers, people who own gold, or even people who fly a U.S. flag, as potential terrorists. In 2012, a Homeland Security study was leaked which characterized Americans who are “suspicious of centralized federal authority,” and “reverent of individual liberty” as “extreme right-wing” terrorists.

Reid attracted controversy earlier this week when he promised that the BLM’s fight with Bundy was “not over”. The Nevada Senator was hit with accusations of cronyism after his former staffer Neil Kornze was confirmed as the new BLM director earlier this month.

Reid is obviously angry after his complicity in the siege against the Bundy family was exposed and became a viral story. Although many news outlets claimed this issue was “debunked,” Reid’s involvement in a solar farm just 35 miles from Bundy’s ranch is documented. Archived files which were deleted from the BLM’s own website confirm that confiscating Bundy’s cattle was necessary in order to clear the way for lucrative solar deals with transnational corporations.

I haven’t heard a single news report verifying that the protesters were armed with “automatic weapons”. No doubt this is because Harry Reid (like most leftists,) doesn’t know the difference between an automatic weapon and a semiautomatic weapon. From as far as I could see, it was only the SWAT teams who were armed with automatic weapons. Or perhaps in Harry Reid’s rants the “domestic terrorists,” he was referring to was the BLM, their snipers, and their SWAT teams. But I seriously doubt it.

Usually, when someone neglects to pay their taxes, the gov’t simply puts a lien on their property.
Coming out with guns is simply excessive.