Biden: I’m in great shape except for my brain. The possible nightmare scenario that could follow dumping him


Last night after being introduced on the 4th of July, Joe Biden greeted the crowd with a hearty “Ho ho ho!”

KAMALA: “We give thanks to our commander-in-chief, the vice— the president!”

But even before that his brain wandered off.

Earlier in the day, Biden seemingly lost his train of thought as he stumbled through his very brief speech at a White House barbeque — bizarrely claiming that highway congestion no longer exists and nearly calling nemesis Donald Trump his “colleague.”

“I probably shouldn’t even say that … anyway,” the commander in chief said after the latter bumble to a crowd of military service members and their families.

Biden trailed off several times in his four-minute speech, which was peppered with slurring, despite having a teleprompter at his disposal.

Biden is currently on his tour to convince America that he’s not what we see him to be. In fact, he’s planning a $50 million spending spree to that effort. The arguments he’s making could be coming directly from the RNC.

To bolster his argument that he’s still intact he released a heavily edited video criticizing what he claims are heavily edited videos (none of which were edited).

But it gets worse. A lot worse.

Biden, who already has a at times little to nothing on his schedule and who hits the pillow before the sun goes down said he just needs more sleep and has to stop being President at 8 pm.

President Biden told a gathering of nearly two dozen Democratic governors at the White House Wednesday night that he needs to get more sleep and work fewer hours — and even avoid events held after 8 p.m. — despite previous reports he can only fully handle the job between 10 a.m. and 4 p.m.

The 81-year-old’s acknowledgment was reported by the New York Times, citing two people who took part in the high-stakes meeting and others who were briefed on the comment.

Then he argued to a group of democrat governors that he is in great shape except for his brain.

President Joe Biden told more than 20 Democratic governors that he is in good health with the exception of his brain function while discussing the fate of his presidential campaign on Wednesday, sources told the New York Times.

Biden assured the governors that despite the growing calls for him to drop out of the presidential race, he would be staying in, two people who participated in the meeting and several others briefed on his comments told the NYT. In response to a question about his health from Hawaii Gov. Josh Green, the 81-year-old said that all was fine with him except for his “brain.”

“It’s just my brain,” Biden told Green, which at least one governor took as a serious comment that left them confused, the NYT reported. At least three others in the room apparently said they interpreted the comment as a joke.

>wink, wink<

“He was clearly making a joke,” Jen O’Malley Dillon, Biden’s campaign chair, told the NYT, adding that he said “all kidding aside” after the comment.

He may have thought he was making a joke, but he was not. He was speaking the truth. His brain is not fine. PBS (!) is reporting that on the qt loads of democrats want Biden to step down.

“I can report from having these conversations that we are talking about scores of House Democrats, not a handful, scores who want the president privately, they say, to step aside,”

Dan Goldman, who is always fully stocked with jerkness, was promoting the idea of a Presidency by committee.

“So, let’s not just focus on Joe Biden here. Let’s focus on the people around him, the administration, the policies, and most importantly, the appreciation and protection for the rule of law and our democracy that Donald Trump, every single day, has vowed to take down.”

Former Assistant US Attorney General jeff Clark notes how the media went way too far defending Biden and his deteriorating mental state until there was no denying it:

Here’s how you know we have a controlled media: There’s NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, WaPo, NYT, PBS. I could go on. All of these are *ostensible* competitors. Emphasis on the word ostensible. For, in a truly competitive market, one or more of them between 2020 and now would have put some reporters on the Joe Biden dementia story long before the debate with Trump. And since it’s so obvious that the story that Joe Biden is in cognitive decline is true, long before the debate, market competition for the truth would have worked up Biden dementia into conventional wisdom.

And even if these supposed media competitors were somehow all oblivious before Robert Hur’s report, they surely would have made Biden dementia conventional wisdom in the wake of that report. But they didn’t. They miraculously all lifted their information embargo about Biden’s dementia all at once and only in response to the debate. They ignored all prior evidence of it and gaslit you normal people who pointed to Biden’s deteriorating condition. Now, it is undeniable that Biden’s dementia is a national security threat of epic proportions.

But just as bad of a threat to our national security as a senile President is our monolithic, lockstep mainstream media. It acts as the handmaiden of the Democrat party and the post-Truman national security state. It routinely refuses to point out the obvious until it becomes convenient for elite objectives for them to do so.

Now for the scary news. Buzz Patterson thinks dems will force Biden to step down and a nightmare will replace him:

I’m hearing rumors from several sources that the Democrats are planning to dump Joe Biden after the upcoming debate and replace him. It’s not going to be with Kamala Harris. It’s going to be Hillary Clinton.  As some of you know, I was the Air Force Military Aide for Bill Clinton, lived in the White House, traveled everywhere they traveled, and carried the “nuclear football.” As such, I was always in close proximity to both Bill and Hill. Among the military who served in the White House and the professional White House staff, the Clinton administration was infamously known for its lack of professionalism and courtesy, though few ever spoke about it.

But when it came to rudeness, it was Hillary Clinton who was the most feared person in the administration. She set the tone. From the very first day of my assignment.  When I first arrived to work in the White House, my predecessor warned me. “You can get away with pissing off Bill, but if you make her mad, she’ll rip your heart out.” I heeded those words. I did make him mad a few times, but I never really pissed her off. I knew the ramifications. I learned very quickly that the administration’s day-to-day character, whether inside or outside of DC, depended solely on the presence or absence of Hillary. Her reputation preceded her. We used to say that when Hillary was gone, it was a frat party. When she was home, it was “Schindler’s List.”

In my first few days on the job — and remember, I essentially lived there — I realized there were different rules for Hillary. She instructed the senior staff, including me, that she didn’t want to be forced to encounter us. We were instructed that “Whenever Mrs. Clinton is moving through the halls, be as inconspicuous as possible.” She did not want to see “staff” and be forced to “interact” with anyone — no matter their position in the building.  Many a time, I’d see mature, professional adults, working in the most important building in the world, scurrying into office doorways to escape Hillary’s line of sight. I’d hear whispering, “She’s coming, she’s coming!” I could be walking down a West Wing hallway, midday, busier than hell, people doing the administration’s work, whether in the press office, medical unit, wherever. She’d walk in, and they’d scatter. She was the Nazi schoolmarm, and the rest of us were expected to hide as though we were kids in trouble. I wasn’t a kid. I was a professional officer and pilot. I said, “I’m not doing that.”

There was also a period of time when she attempted to ban military uniforms in the White House. It was the reelection year of 1996, and she was trying to craft the narrative that the military was not a priority in the Clinton administration. As a military aide, carrying the football and working closely with the Secret Service, I objected to that. It simply wasn’t a matter of her political agenda; it was national security. If the balloon went up, the Secret Service would need to find me as quickly as possible. Seconds matter. Finding the aide in military uniform made complete sense. Besides, what commander-in-chief wouldn’t want to advertise his leadership and command? She finally relented because the Secret Service weighed in. If the Democrats dump Biden, and I think they’re going to have to, good ole Hill will be on the shortlist. If she runs, I will dedicate this space to raining hell on her campaign. The Clintons are corrupt beyond words. Hillary is evil, vindictive, and profane.

That thought is indeed frightening, but it would involve a great deal of conflict. Kamala Harris is unlikely to go down willingly. Dumping her would open the DNC to all kinds of accusations of racism which would be countered with “Well, Harris is not really an African American.” Then there is issue of delegates being released and ballots needing to be reprinted. I posed this to AI.

While there have been discussions about replacing President Joe Biden, it’s a complex process. Here are some key points:

  1. Vice President Harris: She would be the most likely alternative, but her own popularity is not significantly better than Biden’s1. Skipping over the first female and first Black vice president could be challenging for the party.
  2. No Mechanism to Remove Biden: There’s no direct mechanism for party leaders to remove Biden from the ticket. If the party wants to replace him, it would require an open nominating process at the convention2.
  3. Party Rules and State Laws: Delegates are bound by party rules (which can be suspended) and state laws (not easily dismissed) to cast their votes for Biden3.

In summary, while discussions exist, replacing Biden would be difficult and uncertain. The party faces challenges in finding a suitable alternative.

And then there is Lady MacBiden, who would not easily let slip the crown. Buckle up. Turbulence is forecast.


Biden is going to attempt to counter his dementia-apparent debate performance with a heavily edited, completely scripted and without a doubt teleprompter aided interview held between 10 and 4 pm with Clinton water boy George Stephanopoulos tonight.

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The puppet masters will select joe’s replacement on the ballot.
And, if they need to , they will select his replacement as president before the election.
Rumors are out (Tom Fitton) there that joe resigns the presidency on this Monday.
Whether its Kamala or someone else it will be someone who is a mere front for the puppet master.

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Interview with Clinton water boy George Stephanopoulos tonight.
Cleanup on aisle 666, next to we finally beat Medicare and 15 dollar insulin, call in the canibals.
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Resigning is one way to rid the democrat campaign of kamala

And you figure that how?

The Congress Members mentioned in the article certainly are “profiles in courage.” So long as the MSM continued the charade of a competent Biden, the Dems could accuse anyone who said otherwise of being a right-wing extremist. Now that 51 million viewers saw Biden’s mental collapse for themselves in real time, the fallback position for the Dems and the legacy media is “anger” at being “misled” by Biden’s handlers. Clearly, neither the DNC nor the MSM have covered themselves in glory.

Trump will destroy America if he isn’t stopped at the ballot box.

You mean stopped with election fraud, like in 2020? It is more than apparent that Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden is all we’ve all said he was… and worse. HE has brought disaster upon the nation. HE has brought in thousands of criminal illegal immigrants that prey upon our citizens. HE got two new wars started. HE decimated our economy. HE was a puppet for the far left that seeks to destroy America.

Right, like he did from 2017-19, with no additional wars, economic growth, restoration of the value of wages, peace breaking out in the Middle East….

You’re an idiot. Endlessly repeating this nonsense just because it’s your own fervently held belief arising from idiocy and insanity has nothing to do with reality.

“He was clearly making a joke,” Jen O’Malley Dillon, Biden’s campaign chair, told the NYT, adding that he said “all kidding aside” after the comment.

Nope. Sorry. Democrats don’t believe Presidents or Presidential candidates crack jokes. Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden was speaking from the place where most people’s heart is.

I think I see what the left is trying to do now. Like they’ve tried to make pedophilia normal and mainstream, they are now trying float the idea that it’s normal and acceptable for the President of the United States to be slow, dim-witted, demented, tired, bumbling, stumbling, mumbling mummified walking corpse.

There are only two reasons to go with Kamala if Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden is booted. One, damage control. Two, that’s the only way they can use the campaign money. Note that competence and ability are not among the reasons, but Democrats NEVER give those consideration.

joe’s peeps, whether in media, the WH, the dem party or others, sure cover for him with lies.
CNN is reporting about yet another new lie:
CNN had asked Karine Jean-Pierre in the White House press briefing whether the president had received “any medical exams” since his February physical, and the press secretary had responded: “We were able to talk to his doctor about that and that is a no.”
Joe Biden was examined by his physician in the days following last week’s CNN presidential debate.
KJP is spinner her LIE!!!!!!! by claiming she understood only a physical as a “medical exam.”

The soundbite of Shitshispants’ comment about how he is the first black woman to serve under a black president ought to be good for at least another million votes for PT. The dems put all their eggs in one basket with their failed lawfare strategy. They are also too arrogant to understand that this is not all about rejecting Pervy, it’s also about rejecting their communist agenda. Most Americans desire freedom. It’s what this country was founded upon. Their platform would work well in Europe where they have a rich history of coddling tyrants be it the Communists, Fascists, NAZI’s, or monarchs.

The lies just keep mounting up.
Public records of White House logs show that joe’s personal doctor met with a Parkinson’s specialist AT THE WHITE HOUSE back in JANUARY!
They knew!
And before that they had to suspect.

There’s a scenario that might make sense considering who pulled the long knives out against joe originally (among dems.)
That would be the obamites.
Now, the from US Constitution the 22nd Amendment, passed in 1951, states,

“No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice. …” 

joe runs and gets elected with obama as his running mate!
Yeah, then joe steps aside (or dies) and obama (not ELECTED more than twice) becomes president once again.
Most likely route to a dem victory I can imagine.

And with a full Republican House and Senate, they impeach and remove obarry…

On what grounds?

A twice-before-elected President may become a Vice-President either through appointment or through election and – like any other Vice-President – may thereafter succeed to the Presidency for the full remainder of the pending term.”

It finds the 12th Amendment’s mandate, “… no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States” does not bar this.

Well that is good news

For abuses of power. The IRS scandal, spying on Trump’s campaign and the Russian collusion hoax.

Must focus on Biden instead of Trump’s abortion flip flop…

07/03/24 – Trump campaign backs loyalists over anti-abortion activists for RNC positions

Former President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign backed loyalists for Republican National Committee positions while blocking two hard-line anti-abortion activists.

The move reflects the campaign’s concerns over abortion in November, an issue that tends to favor Democrats in popularity on the national stage. Several members of the RNC revealed the blocking of South Carolina convention delegates LaDonna Ryggs and Chad Connelly for the platform committee to Politico.

Delegates will gather in Milwaukee to decide on the RNC’s platform beginning Sunday. Ryggs and Connelly pledged not to “water down” the party’s positions on abortion, marriage, and Israel, while the delegates favored by the Trump campaign pledged to support his positions.

The Washington Examiner reached out to Trump and the RNC for confirmation and comment.

The fear among anti-abortion hard-liners is that Trump will push through a change in the platform to his publicly favored leave-it-to-the-states position, in contrast to the current nationwide ban after 20 weeks. Ryggs and Connelly believe that a softening on abortion could cost the former president the election.

“I would strongly urge the leadership of the Republican National Committee and the Trump campaign to proceed with great caution on the platform and avoid doing anything that would discourage or in any way deflate the enthusiasm of pro-life and evangelical voters,” Faith & Freedom Coalition Chairman Ralph Reed said. “Right now, sitting here today, they are prepared to crawl across broken glass, to do everything in their power to see President Trump reelected. I don’t want to see anything happen that would change that current dynamic.”

They’re going to have to lie about their intentions—most likely to both opposing factions, since they can’t actually give both what they want but can’t afford to lose either.

Danielle Alvarez, a spokeswoman for the Trump campaign and the RNC, maintained that the specific language regarding abortion is still undecided.

After Democrats fought off a much-anticipated “Red Wave” in 2022, largely using the energy from abortion-rights activists angered over the repeal of Roe v. Wade, Trump has sought to establish a centrist stance on abortion.

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Weird that you’re obsessing over this.
After the overturn of Roe V Wade, the issues of abortion go back to the states.
It is not the option of a president or a Congress to overturn that by returning to a federalist solution to force all the states into a box not of their choosing.
Federalist solutions is a dem ideal. ….always more government.

The evangelical anti-choice zealots won’t see things that way.

It is not the option of a president or a Congress to overturn that by returning to a federalist solution to force all the states into a box not of their choosing.

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The evangelical anti-choice zealots won’t see things that way.

And what are you if not a “kill babies” zealot? Tell us, Comrade Greggie, do you go to your local PP and get the remains of dead babies so you can eat them like a troll under a bridge?

A figment of your propaganda-fueled imagination.

And what are you if not a “kill babies” zealot? 

Abortion is a losing campaign issue for 2024 skipper.

I’m glad that you think so.

It’s about the power of the State to take control of women’s bodies, and the police-state surveillance and enforcement measures they intend to put in place.

They attended the rallies and waved the flags and cheered their Leader, then they woke up and realized they were in NAZI-ruled Germany…

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So, tell me, greg, what proportion of the States’ gov’ts, the Congress (both houses) and Courts are made up of  “evangelical anti-choice zealots?”
A president can’t and Trump certainly wouldn’t go back to the federalism of Roe V Wade even Roe V Wade lite.
If joe could have, he would have already.

The State has no constitutional authority to deprive women of control over their own bodies.

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Women are free.
They can go from one state to another.
But states have this authority.

One of the policy objectives in Project 2025 is to monitor women’s health care activities to put an end to “abortion tourism”. I’m not making this up. It’s in there. See page 455 of Project 2025:

Data Collection. The CDC’s abortion surveillance and maternity mortality reporting systems are woefully inadequate. CDC abortion data are reported by states on a voluntary basis, and California, Maryland, and New Hampshire do not submit abortion data at all. Accurate and reliable statistical data about abortion, abortion survivors, and abortion-related maternal deaths are essential to timely, reliable public health and policy analysis.

Because liberal states have now become sanctuaries for abortion tourism, HHS should use every available tool, including the cutting of funds, to ensure that every state reports exactly how many abortions take place within its borders, at what gestational age of the child, for what reason, the mother’s state of residence, and by what method. It should also ensure that statistics are separated by category: spontaneous miscarriage; treatments that incidentally result in the death of a child (such as chemotherapy); stillbirths; and induced abortion. In addition, CDC should require monitoring and reporting for complications due to abortion and every instance of children being born alive after an abortion. Moreover, abortion should be clearly defined as only those procedures that intentionally end an unborn child’s life. Miscarriage management or standard ectopic pregnancy treatments should never be conflated with abortion.

Comparisons between live births and abortion should be tracked across various demographic indicators to assess whether certain populations are targeted by — 456 — Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise abortion providers and whether better prenatal physical, mental, and social care improves infant outcomes and decreases abortion rates, especially among those who are most vulnerable.

The Ensuring Accurate and Complete Abortion Data Reporting Act of 20239 would amend title XIX of the Social Security Act and Public Health Service Act to improve the CDC’s abortion reporting mechanisms by requiring states, as a condition of federal Medicaid payments for family planning services, to report streamlined variables in a timely manner.

The CDC should immediately end its collection of data on gender identity, which legitimizes the unscientific notion that men can become women (and vice versa) and encourages the phenomenon of ever-multiplying subjective identities…

As you can see, the intention is to weaponize a FEDERAL agency, HHS, turning it into an instrument of surveillance and enforcement of the abortion ban. They’re not content to leave it up to the states when women could cross a state line to escape the local abortion ban.

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Is jill biden the most hated woman in America?

Why is hunter in the WH?

Because he’s a son of the President?

He’s looking for his blow.

Project 2025 makes an interesting observation on page 27, in light of the recent SCOTUS ruling that a president is totally immune from criminal prosecution for all official acts:

…While the White House Counsel does not serve as the President’s personal attorney in nonofficial matters, it is almost impossible to delineate exactly where an issue is strictly personal and has no bearing on the President’s official function. The White House Counsel needs to be deeply committed both to the President’s agenda and to affording the President proactive counsel and zealous representation. That individual directly advises the President as he performs the duties of the office, and this requires a relationship that is built on trust, confidentiality, and candor…

What’s especially disturbing about this isn’t that “conservative” Supreme Court justices didn’t know what they were doing in creating unrestrained executive powers vis à vis Donald Trump’s nature and intentions; it’s that they knew exactly what they were doing.

“Originalist” interpretations of the Constitution can hardly explain why they would bring back a potential for the sort of authoritarian rule that the writers of the Constitution fought the Revolutionary War to throw off—especially with the first likely abuser of that ruling waiting in the wings and chomping at the bit.

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It’s obvious why Trump has declared he knows nothing about Project 2025 and knows none of the people behind it—a number of which previously worked in his previous administration. It reveals the actual contents of the package he’s selling. The people behind Project 2025 would be the members and influencers of a new unfettered Trump Administration.

When will the democrats invoke the 25th amendment? Most diagnoses are biden has Lewy Body Dementia.

The Democrats’ public struggle session over what to do with the problem of Joe Biden must end. They know, we know, and, most terrifyingly, America’s enemies know that our commander-in-chief is mentally incompetent. As such, the answer is clear, and the Constitution provides it: Joe Biden must be removed from office and the vice president sworn in as president.

The only (proper) question for Biden and his party is whether the removal will be voluntary, under Section 3 of the 25th Amendment, or forced, under Section 4. Will Biden transmit “his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office” to Congress? Or will the vice president and a majority of the Cabinet inform Congress of President Biden’s incapacity and remove him from office?

A day or two to decide is reasonable. A week stretches the bounds. But we are now at the point where the inaction by Vice President Kamala Harris and Biden’s Cabinet constitutes a violation of their oath of office. They solemnly swore they would “bear true faith and allegiance” to the Constitution and that they would “faithfully discharge the duties of the office.” That oath mandates they provide Congress “their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office…”

There is no wiggle room. No “wait and see” if the president can convince the public he is fit for office, whether by choreographed appearances or edited prime-time interviews. Neither spin nor conspiracy theories can alter what the world saw during the debate: Biden’s mental incapacity.

Whether caused by age, dementia, or Alzheimer’s matters not. The president of the United States cannot discharge his duties if he lacks lucidity for even a fraction of the day. The commander-in-chief must be able to command the executive branch 24-7.

Any counter is political and constitutionally unsound.

Yes, Biden has a horde of helpers who can — and likely have — made decisions on his behalf. But our Constitution established a “unitary executive,” with the president individually and solely vested with the authority to command the executive branch. And the Constitution dictates what happens when that individual, here Biden, is unable to discharge his duties.

Removing Biden from office is politically fraught, however, because he is also the Democrat’s presidential candidate. In fact, some Democrats seem concerned only about removing Biden from the ballot and not the presidency, oblivious to the paradox they are promoting: that Joe Biden isn’t competent to run for reelection but is competent to run the country.

With only four months until the general election, Democrats have no good option — but they do have one constitutional one. Ironically, the constitutional option is likely also the best choice, politically speaking.

There’s always Seal Team Six, which Trump’s own appointees have provided presidential immunity for…


I guess you didn’t know that the U.S. military has a right to refuse to carry out an order that is unconstitutional, including SEAL team 6.

So much for your bullshit about being in the military. Oh, that’s right, you’ve never said whose military.

Stupid ass lying idiot, no, they didn’t. That’s been made clear. Why do you think your lies work here?

Joe doesn’t remember anyone’s name.
Dr. Sanjay Gupta — It’s time for Biden to undergo detailed neurological testing.

Maybe they’ll do that after Biden orders a drone strike on Trump’s golf cart and asserts that it was an official act in defense of the Constitution.

It’s time for Biden to undergo detailed neurological testing.

Based on what? Raging Madcow’s lies?

You know, it’s still not as bad as the Democrats having Das Kapital as their platform.

F**k Project 2025. It doesn’t matter. It’s not part of Trump’s agenda. You are desperately and pathetically grasping at straws in order to try to convince yourself Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden is not the failed, incompetent, corrupt, treasonous pedophile that has only one chance of winning: election fraud. Just like 2020.

If as special counsel Robert Hur said of biden, that he was not competent enough to stand trial, how is it he can be in charge of the Executive Branch?

Project 2025 is not the GOP platform.
Project 2025 is not Trump’s position.
Project 2025 is a paper from a conservative think tank.

Have you forgotten what Project for the New American Century did? They brought us war with Iraq before closing shop, shredding their records, and disappearing into the shadows.

Think tanks fill the vacuum when enough thinking isn’t going on where it really should be.

That was while the Uniparty was in power, not under Donald Trump.
Dems and GOPe wanted war and used think tanks as a justification source.
Trump doesn’t even think like that.

Most of the public learned that the Democrat-Media Complex had systematically lied about Biden beginning in 2020.
What about you?
Wake up yet?
When will you start doubting what you see on the news and what you hear from anyone associated with the White House, the DNC, and the leftwing punditry?
When will you begin second-guessing everything you believed from the past and anything you are told today and promised tomorrow?
When will you start listening to Democrats who have been skeptics, e.g., Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, Alan Dershowitz, and Jonathan Turley?

Trump is more unhinged than the Bush administration ever was.

Unfortunately for you and your type, abortion is not a campaign issue for this year’s general.

How are the democrats going to rid Theo of joe and their kamala problem?

It is if you’re a young person. It is if you believe the Constitution was intended to restrain State powers to the benefit of individual human freedoms.

You seem to have lost sight of that in your enthusiasm for a powerful Daddy Leader you believe will lay down and enforce the rules that you like.

Unfortunately for you and your type, abortion is not a campaign issue for this year’s general.

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It is if you’re a young person. It is if you believe the Constitution was intended to restrain State powers to the benefit of individual human freedoms.

I am constantly amazed at how little you actually know about the U.S. Constitution and what it was designed to do.

I would refer you to the 10th Amendment.

I’m amazed at your powers of selective understanding.

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The First Amendment prohibits government from ramming your religious views down someone else’s throat.

It prohibits you from telling Jewish doctors that their religious duty to provide care to their patients must take a back seat to your religious views about when a human life begins–-which aren’t even supported by scripture.

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The First Amendment prohibits government from ramming your religious views down someone else’s throat.

As usual, you are painfully wrong.

The First Amendment prohibits CONGRESS from establishing a “national” religion. It also guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

Damn, you’re really stupid.

The First Amendment prohibits CONGRESS from establishing a “national” religion.

As you’re no doubt well aware, Supreme Court decisions over the years have interpreted the First Amendment to keep the Federal government from exhibiting a preference for one religion over another.

The “establishment of religion” clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the federal government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. [Emphasis mine]


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Except for some, like the Aztecs, murder is not a religious view.

Constitution was intended to restrain State powers to the benefit of individual human freedoms.

You could not be more wrong. God man, why is it you leftists do not understand the intent of the Constitution? In no way was the Constitution intended to restrain state powers! The purpose of the Constitution is to protect the natural rights of man derived from God/Creator.

The States, by ratifying the Constitution created the Federal Government with specific enumerated powers. It is illogical to think that the States would have knowingly created an entity that would restrain the powers of any of the States. How ignorant must one be to think that was the intent.

Barack Obama’s Poor Understanding of the Constitution

A 2001 interview of Sen. Barack Obama saying some pretty remarkable things about what he sees as the inadequacy of our Constitution has recently come to light.

At the root of the American idea are the truths that our founders described as “self-evident” but that many people first take for granted and then fail to defend: that this country is based on faith in the uniqueness and capacity for self-determination of each individual.

That central idea came from a certainty that we were created by “nature’s God” and that God—not government—had endowed each of us with rights, first among which were life, liberty, and property, the combination of which allowed the pursuit—but no guarantee—of happiness. (It is precisely because the power of this argument was understood that those who advocated slavery denied the full humanity of slaves.)

That understanding led them to create for the first time in history a government built out of and respecting these universal rights of man, a government that was “of, by, and for” the people, not the other way around. And it also led them to craft our Bill of Rights.

Obama in his interview disparages the Constitution as merely “a charter of negative liberties. It says what the states can’t do to you. Says what the federal government can’t do to you but doesn’t say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf.” He believes—and he’s right—that changing this is the way to bring about “redistributive change.

But the founders were deeply purposeful and intellectually coherent in their definition of rights. Classically, rights are the lowest, most basic universal claims. Think of them as the ground rules for everyone, weak and strong, to respect each other and get on.

Their important characteristics are these: First, they exist outside of us, coming from God or nature, not government, and so are independent of the whims of government and cannot be either manufactured or, of even greater concern, extinguished when they get in the way of someone powerful. No one has to give us the ability to pursue happiness; it comes from within ourselves.

Second, they are timeless, applying regardless of whether it’s 200 years ago or a thousand years in the future—governments can’t use the excuse “well, that was then, but times have changed.” 

Third, they are universal, applying to everyone, not just some preferred subset.

And fourth, they are noncoercive, or negative: They delineate what others cannot deprive you of without due process of law. And they prevent you from being coerced.

The founders were not coldhearted. The very understanding of rights as the lowest obligation means that there are also higher obligations: You can’t force someone to be a good Samaritan, but you can expect it of anyone decent. Those who give, give of their free will and consensually, not because the government forces it. 

Rights don’t exist in a vacuum; they carry corollary responsibilities that fall on the citizens who enjoy those rights. That understanding is precisely why volunteerism has such a strong tradition in this country; we knew caring for our neighbor was our responsibility as citizens, not the government’s.

But Obama, like many leftists before him, is unhappy with the constraints of our Constitution. He wants to turn voluntary responsibilities and moral obligations that citizens choose to undertake into so-called affirmative rights. That idea is sugarcoated as “what the government must do on your behalf.” But that sort of thinking—that government should do it—is precisely what saps volunteerism and helps explain why both the Obamas’ and the Bidens’ charitable contributions are so pitiful.

It’s also important to remember that if the government is doing something for one person—”redistributive change” as Obama wants, it must do something to someone else—which is exactly what our Constitution specifically precludes. 

But even more radically undermining of the American idea is Obama’s idea that government can create new “rights.” If Obama believes government can create rights, then that means he thinks governments can also take them away. 

Of course, this is at the heart of the two philosophies between which we are being asked to choose in this election. Do you think as our founders did that rights—including to your own property earned by your own labor—come from the inherent value of individual persons (not government) and must be protected from government? Or do you reject that foundational American idea and instead think rights can be manufactured (and removed) by government for whatever it deems to be the greater good? No less than the American Idea is at stake.

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“State,” when written with a capital, as Greg did in his comment, these days generally refers to “the government” as a whole, or as a theoretical construct; a lower-case “s” usually refers to one of the divisions within the United States, like Florida or California.

The Constitution was explicitly written with one of its goals being to proscribe the power of the State—the power of government in general—in the lives of Americans.

Last edited 14 days ago by Michael

Bullshit, the United States is not referred to as “the state” nor is it’s government. You are making shit up pencildick. How unfortunate any student would be with a “teacher” such as yourself.

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the civil government of a country:

“services provided by the state”

“King Fahd appointed a council to advise him on affairs of state”

“state-owned companies”



I’m truly sorry that you don’t have a large enough vocabulary to be able to discuss these ideas on equal footing with others, but don’t make the mistake of assuming everyone else is in the same boat.

Last edited 14 days ago by Michael

That is a broad definition which I do not dispute with respect to other governments throughout the world. Sadly you seem to think it applies to the United States which it does not. The government of the United States has never been referred to as a government of the “state” or a “state” government. It might be referred to as a government of the many states but it is not a “state” government. It is however, a Federal government. I do not assume everyone else is in the same boat. You have demonstrated what boat you are in and it is not the boat where a majority of Americans place themselves. Sorry, not sorry…

Now Fuck off pencildick

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The government of the United States has never been referred to as a government of the “state” or a “state” government. 

Really? So when you rail against the “Deep State,” which of the fifty states is the Deep one? When MAGAs call for the dismantling of the “administrative State,” which of the states of the Union are you hoping to see taken apart?

So, did that take you 5 hours to come up with that nonsensical response? You democrats are stupid.

I’m truly sorry that you don’t have a large enough vocabulary to be able to discuss these ideas on equal footing with others,

So, being the dishonest person you are, you provide only those definitions of the word state that supports your argument.

Was there a reason you left out the very first definition of the word state from your source which states:

  1. the particular condition that someone or something is in at a specific time:
  2. “the state of the company’s finances” · “we’re worried about her state of mind”
  3. Similar:
  4. condition
  5. shape
  6. situation
  7. circumstances

 So when you rail against the “Deep State,” which of the fifty states is the Deep one?

Again, you apply a definition to the word state that is not proper. Like state of mind, state your name, state of affairs, et al. Deep State could logically be applied to the first definition of the word state that you chose to withhold.

you provide only those definitions of the word state that supports your argument.

Because that’s the definition of the word I’m using in this discussion, and it’s the one TrumpWon says doesn’t exist. Many words in the English language have more than one meaning, but we generally only use one of those definitions at a time.

Deep State could logically be applied to the first definition of the word state that you chose to withhold.

We don’t need to “logically apply” anything, since already we have an official definition of the term “Deep State”:


a body of people, typically influential members of government agencies or the military, believed to be involved in the secret manipulation or control of government policy.

[Emphasis mine]

Why are you still trying to run with that ball? TrumpWon fumbled it; the play is dead.

Last edited 14 days ago by Michael

Dumbass, I did not say it does not exist. Stop lying. I said;

The government of the United States has never been referred to as a government of the “state” or a “state” government. It might be referred to as a government of the many states but it is not a “state” government.

Taking my comment out of context to somehow garner some self credibility makes you look like the fuckhead you are.

Now, Fuck off pencildick.

Last edited 14 days ago by TrumpWon

When one puts your ignorance into context, it’s still ignorance.

When one puts your dishonesty into context, it’s still dishonesty.

Why are you still trying to run with that ball?

Because the bottom line is you are not an honest player.

Mikey an Greggie dont like the subject of the thread, Biden mush brain so incompetent cant stand trial for stealing douments, DOJ wont release the recorded interview to congress.
Not 1 on the bench, Democrats not allowed an alternative during the primaries, their vote doesnt count the “party” wants to crown someone.

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“The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner”
by Randall Jerrell

From my mother’s sleep I fell into the State,
And I hunched in its belly till my wet fur froze.
Six miles from earth, loosed from its dream of life,
I woke to black flak and the nightmare fighters.
When I died they washed me out of the turret with a hose.

[Emphasis mine]

State your point.

A brief civics lesson. States make laws for their respective state that the residents therein are bound to abide by. That is the thing, you know the thing. Democracy

More Bad News for Democrats: Gavin Newsom and Kamala Harris “Poll Worse Against Trump” than Joe Biden Does! (VIDEO)

Looks like you are stuck with dementia joe

Murder is not “control over her own body” nor is it health care.

“Murder” is the word that some of your lunatic base applies to the use of birth control pills, or to medical procedures necessary to save the life of a pregnant woman or terminate a child pregnancy resulting from incestuous rape.

They’re now pulling some of the GOP’s strings. They’re pandered to for the purpose of winning elections.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

Hyperbole doesnt work here, we know the statistics. Its premeditated murder.

Statistics would tell you that late-term abortions are extremely uncommon and never done as a matter of convenience—but you don’t really care about facts.

Got two words for you, Comrade Greggie:”

Kermit Gosnell

It’s so rare that you can point to a single guy and think that that makes your case for you.

Tiller, Karpen. Then NY passes a law that they will not prosecute doctors performing late term abortions on demand, along with numerous other states.

If it’s so rare, ban it. Why not?

So… BAN them except in valid, verified medical emergencies and make harsh penalties for violating the law? Why is that so hard?

That isn’t the ban the GOP sought and has widely imposed state by state, is it? Nor is it the limited ban you’re seeking to impose nationwide. Your anti-choice zealots—your lunatic preachers, clinic bombers and assassins—recently tried to ban abortion pills and have even gone after contraceptives. Their intention to use HHS as a police state surveillance and enforcement tool is clearly spelled out in Project 2025—which, of course, your lying cult leader denies any knowledge of.

The success you’ve had thus far at fucking up other people’s lives has largely been based on lies, disinformation, and the demonization of those who don’t share your backward, misogynistic views.

So… BAN them except in valid, verified medical emergencies and make harsh penalties for violating the law? Why is that so hard?

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But it was your drive to make abortion legal and acceptable up to the 9th month that brought it all to a head. Then it went to the Supreme Court and the truth that there IS no Constitutional “right to an abortion”. Now, you can take Trump’s common sense, practical, conciliatory position or you can stick to your barbaric death cult murder worship position and lose it all.

Kind of up to you crybabies.

Your Texas-Taliban Bible-thumping Donald Trumpers have even banned abortion in the case of children who are pregnant as a result of incestuous rape—so don’t try to lecture me about pro-choice “extremism”.

They’ve even put bounties on people who attempt to help such victims, providing monetary rewards to those who rat on them.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

WHOA! Top White House Aide Says Biden’s Cognitive Decline is So Bad – And MUCH WORSE in Private – That He Should Drop Out of 2024 Race

Your cult leader will be sentenced in September after conviction on 34 felony counts, each carrying a maximum jail term of 4 years. He has no immunity in the New York state court system.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

Not likely. USSC on Presidential immunity has destroyed fat ass alvins case. Sorry, not sorry.

REPORT: “Sh*t is Going to Hit the Fan” When Congress Returns Monday – All Eyes on Nancy Pelosi as Dems Want Biden Gone By the End of the Week

Abortion is a nonissue for the general in November. What is wrong with joe?

Your lying cult leader thinks it is. It’s why he just flipped on a national abortion ban and claims he knows nothing about Project 2025.

He has no internalized moral principles. He shifts positions to whichever the wind is blowing. He’s a social media chameleon.

Abortion is a nonissue for the general in November.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

Yeah, not so much. Next

There you go again with the project tripe.

Is that all ya’ got?

Last edited 14 days ago by TrumpWon

ANYBODY BUT TRUMP. If a president becomes incapacitated, we have a Vice President to step in.

Why hasn’t Trump announced his???

Read the news. At the Republican convention.


That’s what someone that absolutely does not care what happens to this country says. That’s what someone that would prefer to see the nation fall rather than admit their ideology and beliefs are all proven garbage. That’s what a total piece of shit would say.

Hakeem Jeffries and Mark Warner plan to double-team Biden until he quits race.

Democrat civil war has officially begun.

You’d better keep an eye on Hakeem Jeffties. Democrats will instantly unify behind whoever takes on Trump, while the GOP has been at war with itself since 2020.

Did you know that Joe Rogan supports same-sex marriagegay rightsrecreational drug useuniversal health care, and universal basic income? Just curious.

Good for him. Matters not to me.

Last edited 14 days ago by TrumpWon

We’re not like you, Greg. We don’t hate people over one opinion. The only thing that fascinates us is when a leftist actually shows they can think for themselves.

Contrary to the cultist left, we are open to differing opinions when they align more closely with conservative viewpoints. The leftists on the other hand are bound by their plantation groupthink narratives. Any stepping off the plantation earns admonishment.

So what do you think about the Supreme Court giving Joe Biden total immunity from criminal prosecution for any official act between now and January 20, 2025? Seem like a good idea?

He has always had it, thats what I think.

I think anyone that believes that is an utter moron and useful idiot. The MEDIA gives Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden the ability to commit crimes without punishment.

Isn’t Jeffries one of them there “election deniers”?


There are those who take the position that life begins at conception and any abortion is murder. That’s their position and it has some validity. I don’t renounce it. It’s not my position, though.

Then there are those who think there should be no limits, no restrictions. They want abortion right up to the moment of birth and, as the EX-governor of Virginia put it, if the BABY survived the abortion, it would be nicely laid out on a steel table and allowed to die. That is a disgusting, unholy, immoral, inhumane, uncivilized, barbaric position. You can deny it all you want, but that is the left’s position. That, buddy, is YOUR position.

You pretend it doesn’t happen. You pretend it’s rare. Yet, you won’t support banning it. You WANT it to be an option, a choice to make if someone fucked around and waited too long to decide that having a baby would be a real crimp on an active party life. Or something.

I don’t like abortion as a means of birth control. It’s inhumane. But, not being a woman, I won’t make the call. But I WILL take a position that there are limitations to that murderous tightrope act. Anyone that thinks differently, frankly, simply condones murder.

Misogynistic views. Who says its freedom to work for a corporation, get back from your 15 minute break and slavery to work for your family, sure have lunch with your friends do a bit of shopping?

Murder is the unauthorized death of a human being. It’s never allowed or proper just because someone wants to or is inconvenienced by someone else’s life.

The entire issue is not opposition to abortion, it is the left’s total opposition to any reasonable restrictions.

Somehow I can’t equate termination of a pregnancy when the fetus is still too undeveloped to be conscious with the murder of a person.

Mainly because thinking that way is crazy.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

You know that’s not what we are talking about. But, that’s how you goddamn death cult barbaric death worshiping leftists validate your love of murder of innocents, isn’t it? You always distort the argument and lie about the facts.

Now, what about Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden’s worn out brain?

Last edited 14 days ago by Just Plain Bill

I wonder how many of Trump’s supporters are elderly Americans who realize his flying propaganda monkeys are stigmatizing the physical mannerisms of old age and equating them with mental incompetence?

Trump has mocked the physically handicapped with equal enthusiasm.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

Did joe beat Medicare?

Has Trump never misspoken? Has he ever shut up? He befuddles his audience with a nonstop stream of bullshit.

I generally understand and agree with what Biden says. I trust his judgement and his honorable intentions. I understand that he’s 80 years old and carries the weight of the world and the fate of our nation on his shoulders, all while trying to deal with the stresses of Trump’s unrelenting gutter politics attacks. I detest Trump’s dishonest efforts to destroy America’s elder statesmen. I’ve hated the evil bastard ever since he pissed on John McCain.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

McCain was a dirtbag. biden is right up there with McCain. Both are treasonous pieces of shit.

So says your adulterous porn-star humping Chinese bible peddler.

McCain was a dirtbag. biden is right up there with McCain. Both are treasonous pieces of shit.

Last edited 14 days ago by Greg

Democrats are corrupt fascists and Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden is their leader.

Everyone misspeaks. However, Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden does it on a constant basis, 24/7 and when he isn’t “misspeaking”, he’s lying his stupid ass off.

Has Trump never misspoken?

Have you?
Have you ever shut up? You befuddle with a nonstop stream of bullshit.

I generally understand and agree with what Biden says.

Of course. You would agree with Satan himself if he announce he was a Democrat.

I trust his judgement and his honorable intentions.

Joe Biden’s judgement has always been on the wrong side of the nation. As to “honorable” intentions, Joe Biden is the least honorable politician to disgrace the federal government since Benedict Arnold. Biden has never, NEVER cared about the nation. His concern has always been his bank account. Watch the Robert Bork/Clarence Thomas hearings. If you can hold any respect for Biden (and Teddy Kennedy) after viewing those hearings, you are more sick in the head than I thought.

 I’ve hated the evil bastard ever since he pissed on John McCain.

According to McCain’s fellow residents of the Hanoi Hilton, he was a traitor. His nickname was “Songbird” for a reason. Sam Johnson, one of the finest men I have ever met (they didn’t come any better), hated McCain, refused to endorse him as well as refusing to even speak to McCain.

Face it Comrade Greggie. Your party is in shambles. You have a candidate that doesn’t know what day it is and you think by trashing Trump, you can hide that. The VP has a Constitutional duty to pull the 25th Amendment rip cord, and she won’t do it. The press, that has been the buttboy for the DNC, has been exposed for the lying assholes they are.

The curtain was pulled back on the Democrats, and their media excusers, the night of the debate. And your shell game trying to discredit Donald J. Trump is not working anymore.

[You] generally understand and agree with what Biden says.[You] trust his judgement and his honorable intentions.

Even joe doesn’t believe what he says!
Look at his mantra: Trump is a threat to democracy.
He doesn’t mean it.
It’s just words.

If he believed it he’d step aside so someone with a better chance of beating Trump and “protecting” democracy could be in office.
But he said he would be satisfied losing to former President Donald Trump “as long as I gave it my all”
It’s rhetoric, greg, not honorable.
Not true.

Adam Schiff got it.
Why not you?
Rep. Adam Schiff said on Meet The Press: “That is the answer that most concerned me as well. This is not just about whether he gave it the best college try.”

too undeveloped to be conscious with the murder of a person.
You are babbling in Biden, try to do the goodest you can to put that in english.
They feel pain
The baby develops the structural forms of the ears fairly early on, specifically during the first 20 weeks in the womb. The neurosensory development of the ears and the auditory system begins after this. On an average, most fetuses develop a functional auditory system by week 25 of gestation they like music!
A 2009 study found that babies pick up language cues and intonations while in the womb. In this study, very interestingly, French babies cried with a rising melody, while German babies cried with a falling melody, somewhat similar to how the two languages are spoken

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This is why leftists NEVER want to get into a discussion of when a embryo or fetus becomes a “life”. They just evade the question because once they engage, their little human sacrifice death cult worship is done.

They have had feminists chasing their tail over abortion for many years, rather than real progress for women. Real control over their bodies would mean responsible sex with birth control. Now the type that insist on STD sex should be worried about the price of Cat food, face piercings, tatoos and protest sign materials.

greg and the satanic left prefer murder. For them abortion is a human sacrifice to their cult leader, Satan.

The left enjoys finding the most barbaric, despicable, hateful, amoral behavior and declare it a “right”.

Still these “ evangelical anti-choice zealots,” are a minor slice of the American electorate.

Yes, focus on Robin Ware/Robert L. Peters/JRB Ware/Pedo Peter/idiot Biden because he is mentally incapacitated. That’s kind of important, stupid.

Trump intends to fire 50,000 federal workers and replace them with Trump loyalists. He plans to eliminate federal pensions, since that’s one of the few remaining defined benefit worker retirement plans corporate America hasn’t been able to kill off. They’re also going after Social Security, but they’re being very cagey about that until they seize full control because they’ll lose the election if people know. Realize, however, that they can’t cut taxes again while diverting the FICA revenue stream into a privatization scheme without affecting current retirees. This is why there’s not a single word about their plans for Social Security in Project 2025.

Bullshit. You are lying skipper.

Nope. Look it up.

How do you pay current retirees if you cut federal taxes and simultaneously divert FICA taxes into a privatized retirement scheme, when the deficit and debt are already skyrocketing? Anyone can see that something doesn’t add up.

Good. We don’t need anyone working in the government that is loyal to an ideology instead of the country. In fact, fire 100,000 federal employees and DON’T replace them.

100K would be a nice start. Use those wages to update their computers and systems above DOS.

Once again you show yourself to be gullible to whatever the left spews.

It’s as if Trump has never been President and has no record we can look at compared to Biden.

BTW if Trump gets in and fires 50k Obama/Biden people I’d be ok with that.

Last edited 13 days ago by Mully

He should be tested for signs of brain activity. biden is not well.

Perfect puppet, though. Unless, of course, someone is stupid enough to let him on a stage by himself to debate an actual LEADER.