Let’s have a look at the democrats’ evidence of that Trump-Russian collusion thing



“Sentence first, verdict afterwards”

Exhibit A: Carter Page

The Clinton News Network screams today:

One week, three more Trump-Russia connections

Among the three is one Carter Page.

And four years ago, a Trump adviser interacted with a Russian spy trying to elicit intelligence.

Also in the article:

Carter Page meets a Russian spy in New York

The WaPo headline:

Former Trump adviser admits to 2015 communication with Russian spy

Carter Page, who served briefly as a foreign policy adviser to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, made an appearance in a federal espionage case several years ago because he communicated with a Russian intelligence agent under surveillance by the FBI.

Sounds awful, right?

NBC News:

Carter Page, the energy industry consultant who was linked last year to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, is the unnamed man identified in a federal complaint as having met with a Russian intelligence agent four years ago, Page himself revealed on Monday.

Sounds terrible.

The Daily Beast

Carter Page Met With, Gave Documents to Russian Spy in 2013


A Former Trump Adviser Met With A Russian Spy

Four years ago, Carter Page had nothing to do with Donald Trump. The liberal media would have you believe Page was a Trump Presidential adviser in 2013. Page was meeting with what he believed to be a Russian businessman. He had no idea the guy was a spy. He was later contacted by the DOJ and assisted the DOJ in prosecuting the Russian agent Evgeny Buryakov. The guy tried to recruit him to be a spy- he refused and then aided the DOJ.

“More than two decades after the end of the Cold War, Russian spies still seek to operate in our midst under the cover of secrecy,” said former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara, whose office handled the case, in 2016. “But in New York, thanks to the work of the FBI and the prosecutors in my office, attempts to conduct unlawful espionage will not be overlooked. They will be investigated and prosecuted.”

Undercover FBI agents lured Buryakov and his SVR associates, Igor Sporyshev and Podobnyy, into a trap by masquerading as well-placed business sources ripe for recruitment while using physical and electronic surveillance to gather enough information to build their case.

And those documents he “handed over”?

Page told the FBI that he gave Podobnyy his business card and shared emails passing along his opinions and general documents about the energy business, according to the complaint.

Monday night, he expanded on that description, saying he “shared basic immaterial information and publicly available research documents” — simply “a few samples from the far more detailed lectures I was preparing at the time for the students” in a world energy class he taught at New York University.

That’s the big crime. That is the big evidence of collusion.

Look at the way it is presented. The guy was an intelligence asset and they make him sound like a goddam traitor. Page has been libeled and slandered for what? Helping prosecute a spy? This exemplifies the quality of liberal and democrat research.

It’s fake news. Character assassination. Innuendo. All of it. It’s disgusting. You liberals? You suck. Suck, suck, suck. Bring on the hearings.

Let me remind you all of something. In 2012 barack obama promised the #1 Russian spy that he would be more flexible for the #1 Russian spy.

Right after Page testifies let’s have obama testify about what kind of flexibility he provided for Putin.

. . . “Let the jury consider their verdict,” the King said, for about the twentieth time that day.
“No, no!” said the Queen. “Sentence first–verdict afterward.”
“Stuff and nonsense!” said Alice loudly. “The idea of having the sentence first!”
“Hold your tongue!” said the Queen, turning purple.
“I won’t!” said Alice.
“Off with her head!” the Queen shouted at the top of her voice. Nobody moved.
“Who cares for you?” said Alice. (She had grown to her full size by this time.) “You’re nothing but a pack of cards!”


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Lets take a real look at the Clinton Foundation and Gores big time supporters as well as the sinister CFR

Carter Page has offered to testify and not been asked to come.
He also has a tough time proving he ever was a paid Trump associate.
He seems more like a fan boy.
He claims he’s been in Trump Tower many times.
He claims he’s eaten at Trump Tower restaurants at the same time as paid Trump advisers did.
He claimed to the WaPo he was a Trump adviser.
Trump & co had to write him a “cease & desist” letter about his claims.
He was never paid by Trump.
He never met Trump.

I say, Dems, bring it, if he’s all they’ve got.

Everyone knows you simply look in the Yellow Pages Big Russian Spy Directory to find out who’s a spy and who isn’t.

This, like their “dossier” they had such high hopes for, show how desperate and desperately silly these nodding donkey liberals are. Any intelligent, thoughtful liberal would come to the conclusions that they are being fed lies and being made fools.

If there ARE any.

@Nanny G:

The Democrats and Obama were monitoring Trump way before the election, already in the process of creating the Trump-Russia thing…..planning to use their ‘intelligence’ (an oxymoron obviously when placed next to ‘Democrat”) against Trump in the election……….

When the inconceivable happened and they lost the election that they were assured was “in the bag”, obviously the fairy-tale they had concocted had to actually be the truth as there was No Way they could have lost that election without Russian meddling…..

Thus, to save face, they were left with no option but to go ballistic with their claims, and when Flynn went down, there was dancing in the streets on the Left…..One Down!…..thus the masquerade of truth continues…..

It is amusing that with all the Democratic posturing, accusing, screaming, ranting, and the MSM backing them, Trump just keeps that pen going on and on, just like the energizer rabbit……………

Desperation time for the Democrats……

But but he Won! The Russians parachuted into Cowsit Wisconsin and hypnotized the voters, they they they tainted the Milk! Now Vodka is over taking Beer as the favorite drink in the taverns. The most popular baby name is Boris even if its a girl!
Next year the RedBay Packers vill vin da Super bowl. This has been going on a looong time

CNN explains it all

and only th libs understand

Ever notice how the Left accuses the Right of what the Left is doing?

Let’s have a look at the democrats’ evidence of that Trump-Russian collusion thing

Certain information being reviewed in connection with the Trump campaign’s Russian connections remains classified and is not yet part of the public discussion. In fact, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes—who has just recused himself from the investigation he was heading—has possibly made himself a secondary subject of that investigation. He’s been accused of improperly revealing related classified information.

At some point, somebody is going to knock over that first domino, and the whole line is going to go down, one after the other.

@VoteOutIncumbents, #6:

I’ve certainly noticed that about many people on the right, who never seem to be particularly aware of their strong tendency to project. They’ll claim the left is the enemy of personal freedom and a proponent of intrusive, meddlesome government, while simultaneously asserting that it’s the government’s place to deprive women of their privacy, and of their right to make their own most personal decisions regarding their own bodies and reproductive choices. Governmental intrusion doesn’t get much more personal and offensive than that.

@Greg: An unborn child is not part of a womans body, it is a separate entity, its own brain and heartbeat. Another thing they are not is a commodity like a junkyard car to be taken apart and sold piece by piece. Just make sure you wear a condom if you dont want the responsibility for an unwanted child.
Nunes getting a little too close to the Obama connection in the illegal unmasking during police State tactics to smear innocent Americans. Too late the cat is out of the bag Farkas and Rice saw to that.
We just cant wait til the next player opens their yap on MSNBC.

I would be happy with a full investigation and public hearings, conducted by non-partisan investigators, and let the pieces fall where they may. Partisan polarization is being exploited by both sides.

@Greg: That first domino (Little Lyin’ Suzi) has already fallen. We’ll see if she’s willing to fall on the sword for Obama’s greater glory.

Sore loser Democrats are tearing the government to pieces.

@Greg: Greg, there are many liberals in Colorado who would agree with your assessment of Trump-Russian collusion. All of them are smoking dope in Denver or Boulder City parks.

One thing we have not seen is Barry hurry home to explain all this. Hiding in the grass.

@Greg: That’s HORSE-CRAP. Nunes recused himself so THE COMMITTEE COULD LOOK DEEPER into the OBAMA SPY RING.

And how unsurprising you fling that garbage when someone requests we REALLY INVESTIGATE the REAL PAY FOR PLAY WITH RUSSIANS, from Hillary while SOS and her campaign manager, who made TENS OF MILLIONS DOING DEALS WITH THEM.

Those deal were probably BS, and just s a way to funnel money to Hillary’s campaign for FUTURE PROMISES TO PUTIN.

Hillary and Podesta need to be tried, convicted, and sent away for LIFE.

@Bill- Deplorable Me: I can’t wait to see Rice go to prison. Wasn’t she the one who carried Hillary’s “it was the anti islam video” lie for Benghazi?


They’ll claim the left is the enemy of personal freedom and a proponent of intrusive, meddlesome government, while simultaneously asserting that it’s the government’s place to deprive women of their privacy, and of their right to make their own most personal decisions regarding their own bodies and reproductive choices.

Taking away Constitutional rights and illegally spying on law-abiding citizens to see what kind of dirt they can get on political opponents is sort of an infringement. However, the “right” to destroy a living human being is not a right; it is a convenience. Plus, the primary opposition to that is funding it with taxpayer monies and the cultivation and harvesting on lives for parts and profit.

@LW: You will have a long wait. Two things liberals are good at; disregarding and breaking laws to further their political agenda and then stonewalling the inevitable responsibility. Failure and running from their accountability are their only strong suits.

I know for a fact that theTrump family prefers Russian dressing on their salads. Coincidence?

yup, she made all of the Sunday morning programs with that obvious lie.

@Spurwing Plover:
This whole Trump Russian collusion thing is ginned up on the flimsiest circumstantial evidence that I can conceive.
How about Hillary signing off on the uranium transfer to Russia?
How about Obama saying, “Tell Vlad that I will have more flexibility after the election”?

@LW, #15:

That’s HORSE-CRAP. Nunes recused himself so THE COMMITTEE COULD LOOK DEEPER into the OBAMA SPY RING.

Nunes recused himself because he lost any credibility he might once have had as the impartial head of a Congressional investigative committee. His actions are presently under review by the House Ethics Committee.

@Greg: No, he recused himself because he HAS credibility… unlike his obstructionist accusers. He has asked for the evidence and a speedy hearing. Let’s just see how long the left drags this out. THEN we’ll see who has “credibility”.

@Greg: Concur–Nunez looked the fool and had to go.
I have greater faith in The Senate Committee to sort this out.

When you are making it up as you go along, making sense doesn’t enter in.
The NYTimes has led the charge that Trump was too friendly with Russia.
Now, after the strike in Syria the NYTimes is worried that Trump is putting OUR relationship with Russia at risk!


@Rich Wheeler: Now charges have been made against Schiff. Let’s see how honorable and credible he is.

The government’s application for the surveillance order targeting Page included a lengthy declaration that laid out investigators’ basis for believing that Page was an agent of the Russian government and knowingly engaged in clandestine intelligence activities on behalf of Moscow, officials said.

Among other things, the application cited contacts that he had with a Russian intelligence operative in New York City in 2013, officials said. Those contacts had earlier surfaced in a federal espionage case brought by the Justice Department against another Russian agent. In addition, the application said Page had other contacts with Russian operatives that have not been publicly disclosed, officials said.

[Former Trump adviser admits to 2013 communication with Russian spy]

An application for electronic surveillance under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act need not show evidence of a crime. But the information obtained through the intercepts can be used to open a criminal investigation and may be used in a prosecution.

The application also showed that the FBI and the Justice Department’s national security division have been seeking since July to determine how broad a network of accomplices Russia enlisted in attempting to influence the 2016 presidential election, the officials said.

Since the 90-day warrant was first issued, it has been renewed more than once by the FISA court, the officials said.

FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor former Trump adviser Carter Page

Malpractice John: “See, I was right. Stick that up your arseholes pathetic, loser snowflakey liberal/leftists.
And may an illegal alien rape your daughter.”

@PhilllipMarlowe: Poor guy your Page connection has been debunked we who are following this knew this check Nans post #2
So what has this to do with illegal unmasking Trumps campaign team? If he did sit with the team once …do you remember the couple that got into the White House party uninvited? Even meeting and being photographed with the president

What is this crap? They investigate Trump for a hanger on, but not Clinton for this? https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/state-department-employee-arrested-and-charged-concealing-extensive-contacts-foreign-agents

April 11: FBI obtained FISA warrant to monitor Trump adviser Carter Page

The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

The FBI and the Justice Department obtained the warrant targeting Carter Page’s communications after convincing a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judge that there was probable cause to believe Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power, in this case Russia, according to the officials.

This is the clearest evidence so far that the FBI had reason to believe during the 2016 presidential campaign that a Trump campaign adviser was in touch with Russian agents. Such contacts are now at the center of an investigation into whether the campaign coordinated with the Russian government to swing the election in Trump’s favor.

Probable cause, from Legal Dictionary, Law.com dictionary.law.com: “n. sufficient reason based upon known facts to believe a crime has been committed or that certain property is connected with a crime.”

“This confirms all of my suspicions about unjustified, politically motivated government surveillance,” Page said in an interview Tuesday. “I have nothing to hide.” He compared surveillance of him to the eavesdropping that the FBI and Justice Department conducted against civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr.

The White House, FBI and Justice Department declined to comment.

Also April 11: Review of Intelligence Rep. Nunes Highlighted Shows No Evidence of Wrongdoing by Obama Administration

After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal, multiple sources in both parties tell CNN.

Their private assessment contradicts President Donald Trump’s allegations that former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice broke the law by requesting the “unmasking” of US individuals’ identities. Trump had claimed the matter was a “massive story.”

However, over the last week, several members and staff of the House and Senate intelligence committees have reviewed intelligence reports related to those requests at NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland.

One congressional intelligence source described the requests made by Rice as “normal and appropriate” for officials who serve in that role to the president.

And another source said there’s “absolutely” no smoking gun in the reports, urging the White House to declassify them to make clear there was nothing alarming in the documents.

@Jim Thorpe: I prefer Thousand Island, but then I was in the Navy and got to see a lot of Islands. And I don’t think they’ll ever attack us or try to influence our elections like the French do, er, uh, Russians, or whatever.

Hey presto! “Nato is no longer obsolete.”

What reversal? I’m totally consistent. It’s reality that constantly reverses itself. It’s not my fault if you’re having trouble keeping up.

@Greg: Do you think being in office might give a person a different perspective? He wasn’t shy about telling Merkel to chip in more for defense of her country. I know the check is in the mail. He flipped on Syria too. Did you hear about the Supreme court hazing all new Judges? Well with Gingsburg nearing her dirt nap Gorsuch wont have to answer the door, phone and take notes for as long as Elena Kagan had to. Its a cute tradiion and brings humility to the new kids on the court.

@Greg: Know what else all those investigations revealed? Any idea? Wanna guess?


Hey presto! “Nato is no longer obsolete.”

What reversal? I’m totally consistent. It’s reality that constantly reverses itself. It’s not my fault if you’re having trouble keeping up.

Trump was complaining that other NATO members were not fulfilling their obligations; they were not committing their fair share to their military. The other members thought Trump might just pull out, so they all committed to fulfilling their full obligation.

Trump made big noises about severe trade restrictions on China. Then, he went to Xi and said we need some real help with North Korea, or else he would take care of it… by the way, want to talk trade deals? What happened? China went and told Dough Boy he had best take Trump seriously.

Now, compare that to Obama pulling our entire missile defense system out of eastern Europe, then asking Russia if they would like to concede anything, to which Russia just laughed and laughed and laughed.

Kinda get it? Kinda? A little?

@Bill… Deplorable Me, #34:

What I get is that this character could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and his true believers wouldn’t have any problem with it. He made that observation himself.

So Democrats cheer further leaks, now who was this source on the FISA warrant, The FISA court is secret you know its workings are…Classified, yet some criminal in the government takes this classified information to the Media, and they get information not only that there was a warrant, but information about it. The Media greedy for anything that can be twisted into a negative Trump story get on the Propaganda ferris wheel and churn out a huge nothing burger but to the Dems that hate Trump they write it in such a way that they think they got the golden ring. Without a thought to hey this stuff is classified why is my media hanging out with criminals and complicit with crimes?
When will these criminals be caught? How many had clearance to see a FISA Warrant, and read it, one of our nations most highly guarded type of secrets, it cant be that hard to track down this leaker and bring charges. These media outlets should stop abetting in espionage crimes, its treasonous.

Evidently the thinking is that a bigger boom is a bigger distraction.

U.S. Drops One of Its Largest Non-Nuclear Bombs on ISIS Target in Afghanistan

The MOAB is non-penetrating ordnance designed to be used against widely dispersed, unfortified surface targets. (That’s the connotation of “air blast” in Massive Ordnance Air Blast.) As the article indicates, its actual effectiveness against dispersed tunnel complexes in rocky terrain is uncertain. It would certainly do great damage to cave systems opening off of canyons directly below the blast, since the pressure wave would be contained and directed to the interiors. Tunnel complexes could be another matter entirely.

@Greg: As opposed to Obama’s supporters who will stand by him when he blatantly lies about healthcare, uses the IRS as a liberal weapon against conservatives or sells guns to Mexican drug dealers to try and bolster his anti-2nd Amendment agenda? Or stand by Hillary though she sold US influence for her own personal profit, sacrificed national security for her own personal secrecy and got Americans killed in Benghazi and lied about it.

At least Trump’s statement was rhetorical.

Evidently the thinking is that a bigger boom is a bigger distraction.

So, the military experts are stupid?

No, Donald Trump is militarily stupid, but the military follows his orders. This has something to do with that “Commander in Chief” title you awarded him, based on his performance as a casino promoter, reality television host, and all-round artful dodger.


So Democrats cheer further leaks,

Of course they do; that was their strategy. They leak bits of information without any context, then provide their own “details” as it fits whatever narrative they are pushing at the moment. No one can respond without leaking information themselves so the Democrats get to control the story. It is all they have due to their repeated and ongoing failures.


No, Donald Trump is militarily stupid, but the military follows his orders.

Unlike Obama, Trump does not regard himself as the ultimate authority in every field. He has given the military a mission and turned them loose on the task. Obama micromanaged the military, putting his own political fortunes before any other consideration. Trump simply wants to wipe out terrorists.

By the way, the MOAB not only makes a big flash, but is consumes all the oxygen in the area, so most likely the occupants of that tunnel network are dead now. Unless Obama is telling you different.

Trump was ELECTED President because he was a far, far better choice than THE most corrupt, dishonest, untrustworthy, criminal candidate either party has ever tried to foist upon the American public.

@Greg: The productivity of the MOAB dropped is now up to 90 ISIS scum killed. Boy, that Trump… what an idiot.

Pentagon officials told CBS News the strike had been in the works for months and that the bomb itself was moved into Afghanistan during the Obama administration. Authority to use it had been delegated to Nicholson, but he did notify Washington in advance.


@kitt: It is so confusing kitt.
Candidate Trump promoted leaks of material obtained by Russian military intelligence.


It is so confusing kitt.
Candidate Trump promoted leaks of material obtained by Russian military intelligence.

Phulup, you are obviously leaking something from the cavity where most people have a brain. No one can determine what it is.

That’s Phulup, with one l


What reversal? I’m totally consistent.

Are you advocating that a president should not be able to change his mind? You mean like Obozo. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. No wait, that’s not what he meant……..


No, Donald Trump is militarily stupid, but the military follows his orders. This has something to do with that “Commander in Chief” title you awarded him, based on his performance as

Let me correct that gregie,,

No, Obozo is militarily stupid, but the military follows his orders. This has something to do with that “Commander in Chief” title you awarded him, based on his performance as a failed community organizer”

Yep, that works.


As the article indicates, its actual effectiveness

It was also stated that the air burst sucks up all of the oxygen from below it, causing suffocation of those in the tunnels.

@PhillipMarlow: No doubt Obama was still weighing the advantages and disadvantages to him, his “legacy” and if Hollywood would like it or not. Before Obama decided to use it, the entire mountain range would have eroded away.

Let’s have a look at the democrats’ evidence of that Trump-Russian collusion thing

Or let’s not have a look.

White House blocks Flynn document request

From Military Times, today: Former Trump aide Flynn may have broken law, lawmakers say