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No. Not President Obama. He is not our first Muslim PotUS. But would Americans ever elect a president who harbors Islam as his spiritual anchor (as opposed to political)?

Ben Carson has been all the buzz since his Meet the Press appearance Sunday morning:

Responding to a question on “Meet the Press,” the retired neurosurgeon said, “I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation. I absolutely would not agree with that.”

He also said that Islam, as a religion, is incompatible with the Constitution.

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a president’s faith should matter depending on what that faith is. “If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter,” he clarified.

Carson has since double-downed. More:

When asked if a candidate’s faith should matter to voters, Carson said, “I guess it depends on what that faith is. If it’s inconsistent with the values and principles of America, then of course it should matter.” When asked if he thought Islam is consistent with the Constitution, Carson said, “No, I don’t, I do not.”

Watts acknowledged that Carson’s comments had generated controversy but said “this has taken on a little bit of a life of its own.”

“Dr. Carson is a strict adherent to the First Amendment — freedom of religion. That includes people of all faith,” Watts said. “He has great respect for the Muslim community, but there is a huge gulf between the faith and practice of the Muslim faith, and our Constitution and American values.

“That can be disputed,” Watts continued. “That can be debated. But there’s pretty strong evidence to that effect.”

Another doctor- Zuhdi Jasser- gave his perspective on Fox & Friends:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPpKXbipaHw[/youtube]

Whereas our two Democrat Muslim congressmen were outraged, Jasser holds no animosity toward Carson’s statement; and he draws a distinction between Islamist values and Islam. Certainly, not all American-Muslims wish for Sharia to replace the U.S. Constitution; nor in regards to Sharia in general, do all Muslims apply it in the same way. Sharia is not a uniform concept amongst different Muslim groups.

Bobby Jindal:

“If you can find me a Muslim candidate who is a Republican, who will fight hard to protect religious liberty, who will respect the Judeo-Christian heritage of America, who will be committed to destroying ISIS and radical Islam, who will condemn cultures that treat women as second-class citizens and who will place their hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution, then yes, I will be happy to consider voting for him or her,”

It’s simpler than that.

For myself, the issue really is quite simple and boils down to this: Article VI in the U.S. Constitution:

“….no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

In this regard, I seem to be in alignment with Ted Cruz:

“You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am a constitutionalist,” Cruz said on Iowa public television. He also again declined to weigh in on President Barack Obama’s faith, saying it was a matter between him and God. Carson, for the record, did acknowledge on MtP that Obama is a Christian.

Graham goes a bit further and into attack mode:

Earlier Sunday, Graham reacted to Carson’s remarks on Twitter by claiming the doctor “is not ready to be Commander-In-Chief. America is an idea, not owned by a particular religion.”

The presidential hopeful further called on Carson to apologize to American Muslims, arguing that although Carson was a “good doctor,” he was “clearly not prepared to lead a great nation.”

CAIR is calling for Carson to step down as presidential candidate. That’s ridiculous.

American voters are at liberty to support or disqualify choosing who to elect as PotUS for any number and variety of reasons- including a prejudice toward sexual orientation, race, taste in music, political ideology, and yes, religion- whether it be atheism, Mormonism, Roman Catholicism, Scientology, Wiccan, or Islam.

So FA readers, would you ever vote for a Mormon Muslim in the White House?

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In Powerline Blog’s http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/09/cair-helps-prove-ben-carsons-point.php
CAIR’s founder, Omar Ahmad, has said:

Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.

So, perhaps your major premise is wrong, Word.
You preface your post with this:

But would Americans ever elect a president who harbors Islam as his spiritual anchor (as opposed to political)?

Can Islam be divorced from an adherent’s political sphere?
IF he’s a ”good” Muslim, the answer is, No.

But lots of American Muslims are like Jack Mormons, or Catholics-in-name-only.
There are also plenty of cultural Jews who never have worshiped in a Temple or synagogue…..like me.
The biggest problem an American electorate might have in pulling a lever for a Muslim for president is TRUSTING him to merely be a nominal Muslim.
What with Taqiyya (lying to further the goals of Islam) and Kitman (holding back parts of the truth to further the goals of Islam) how could you take him ”at his word?”

Denmark is finding out the hard way they they are going to be a Sharia state soon.
1/3rd of their Parliament is already Muslim.
The plan is to flood Denmark with EU Muslims (including from Turkey when it is admitted to the EU) just to out-vote the ethnic Danes in this next election.

“First day after Turkey becomes EU member country – about one million 20-50 year old Muslims [may] move to Denmark, and after that Denmark [may] be a Muslim country.”

One of the first goals these Muslims have is to free all imprisoned Muslims from Danish jails.

What Carson’s opinion amounted to was… his opinion. His VOTE. Were Carson President and in a position to bar a Muslim from being President, his opinion would be moot because he IS President and, therefore, a Muslim is NOT President. Were Carson not President and an avowed Muslim was running for the Presidency, Carson could execute his opinion by NOT voting for the Muslim, on the basis that he is Muslim. His right and, by the way, the very reason many Democrats oppose Huckabee… because of his religious beliefs. In fact, MANY liberals have expressed concerns over any candidate supported by evangelicals.

So, what’s the big deal? I don’t think a Muslim should be President, either… at least not until the scourge of radical Islamic terror is defeated. I would not want a fanatical Christian in the office, either, nor an atheist. Nor a radical Jew.

Muslims fight over the tenets of their religion so it’s not a shock that we get confused as to what ‘they‘ want or believe. As usual, it’s about who is selling what.

North of the 49th., Canadians have been gifted with further confusion by a Supreme Court decision that Muslim women can wear burqas while pledging Canadian citizenship. Here’s a brief interview with a Muslim woman armed with a little common sense, . . . speaking on Islamophobia and burqas

@Bill: So, what’s the big deal?

confusion and inconsistency so that you look to the leaders of the left to know what to do and think cause it no longer follows a logical progression… ie. you can no longer extrapolate a position by other positions… ie. christianity bad to an athiest communist, but islam is great cause russia funds them and they are terrorists like the left loves (even feminism was once a terrorist org – see rote zora).

if there is no logical way to know what is right to think, then you have to abandon that for safety and just think what they tell you… then in a couple of years, your building ovens and being prosecuted in your 90s for doing what kept you from dying…

[references are to current news articles on such subjects]

to those that are ignorant of the details of history its Gleichschaltung and Sprachregelung…

In Nazi terminology, Gleichschaltung making the same”, “bringing into line”, “synchronization”) was the process by which the Nazi regime successively established a system of totalitarian control and coordination over all aspects of society.

Claudia Koonz uses the term to explain the transformation of ordinary Germans – who had not, before 1933, been more prejudiced than their counterparts elsewhere – from indifferent bystanders into collaborators with persecution

and

Sprachregelung is a German language term meaning “convention of speech”. It refers to a formal or informal agreement, or order, that certain things should be expressed in specific ways in official communications by an organization or by a political entity. Although not the same, it has some overlap with the US-American concept of politically correct speech codes.

they are copying history, which is why it repeats…

Islam is not a religion, it is a philosophy based on the thoughts of men speaking as if they were God.

on another note, its the same progressive no nothing party

The original Know-Nothing Party was a bigoted political movement that sought to use regulations to bar Catholics, Irish, Jews and other immigrant groups from economic and social advancement. The movement died out in the 1850s, but the approach in various forms lived on.

an example of their actions:
The first minimum wage laws were advocated by progressive economists on the assumption that if you forced employers to pay a “white man’s wage,” they’d only hire white men. As the sociologist E.A. Ross put it in the context of Chinese immigrant workers, in the early 1900s, “the Coolie cannot outdo the American, but he can underlive him.”

The Davis-Bacon Act, still cherished by Democrats and their labor union patrons, was passed in 1931 to prevent blacks and immigrants from competing with all-white unions for federal contracts during the Depression. And Jim Crow laws certainly locked millions of blacks out of the middle class.

Explicit racist justifications for regulations have disappeared, but the racial consequences of many regulations tragically endure.

so these games are just that…meaningless games that work on the emptions of people who have been feminized to the point of illogical as a norm… (seems that the feminine can believe 9 impossible things before breakfast, and not miss a beat… which is why they fomented that ahead of things, to remove masculine logic for feminisms illogic… dont believe me? then you must be a master of feminist physics… go ahead, look it up… and you believe that essences of fruit if rubbed on you will make you appear younger.. you hate chemicals and find them horrid, but light scented candles, use chemicals to prevent aging, and spray the room with untested stuff to make it smell unnatural in a way you deem natural. this list is endless and there is no equivalent… )

Doctor Carson, a man who appears to have a far greater intellect than anyone who writes on these cyber pages has a slight deviation in political correctness; a deviation that was derived and programed by the Democrat’s partisan media. We might ask ourselves, the media, and CAIR if America is ready to accept a strict Islamist president who believes in Sharia Law. Since all Muslims are supposed to believe in Sharia, is this Doctor Carson’s interpretation of the question?

Yes, America lives with a distrust of Islam; especially, since nearly all the terror of the world is committed in the name of Islam. Most Americans lack the abilities to judge the moderate from the radical and since the ringleaders are often religious leaders in the church, are we supposed to believe the moderate Muslim will hold our hands in desperate times, especially when the radical is cutting our throat.

Radical Islam is a serious problem, in spite of our president’s efforts to pretend the problem doesn’t exist. One of the strength’s of our country has been the freedom of worship. If a religion is used a basis to overwhelm and destroy a country from within, will we still be able to maintain this strength if it is being used against us?

The HAMAS backed group, CAIR, is willing to use one of our basic freedoms to destroy us and they are effective. They are the first ones calling for Carson to step down and if someone else has a political incorrect idea about Islam or Radical Islam, CAIR will be in the forefront calling for their resignation.

Carson expressed an opinion and because it isn’t in alignment with Leftist political think, he may be forced to withdraw. Are we willing to give Leftist media and the Muslim religion this much control over our elections and our everyday discourse?

Does having an opinion that deviates from Leftist philosophy disqualify you from holding the office of president?

Will the next step be to arrest someone who ideas are not in perfect alignment like the Left is demanding for Climate Change Deniers?

@Skookum:

Does having an opinion that deviates from Leftist philosophy disqualify you from holding the office of president?

I don’t guess it does since when Obama stated he believed marriage was between one man and one woman, the left elected him. Of course, their assumption was that he was simply lying to get elected.

@Nanny G: you would take a christian politician at his word? how’s that working out for you?

@john: We don’t really consider Obama a Christian. As a liberal, we expect him to lie.

Let me try this again…see if it gets posted.

Islam teaches its adherents to lie to non-believers to gain advantage over them. No other religion does that.

Knowing that, it is suicidal to trust an adherent to that ideology. It’s the same concept Aesop portrays in his turtle and the scorpion crossing the river fable.

The day voters in this country choose a muslim as president is the day I emigrate and renounce my US citizenship.

Until the constitutional limitations between the three branches of government are restored, with each branch only exercising the powers granted to it, I think that most potential ideological extremism could indeed be dangerous. (Excepting of course the freedom loving constitutional conservatism of the founders.)

Were an Islamist to rule the US as President in the same manner that Obama has; with utter disdain for the other two branches, using the bureaucracy as his regulatory establishment and enforcement ‘thugocracy,’ and holding the same contempt for the Constitution and it’s limitation of powers, that Obama has been allowed. Then there is little doubt that such a President would enact Shariah law via executive orders.

Until the balances of powers and checks and balances are restored. No, I could not vote for an Islamist President. The risk is too great, for a religion who’s fanatics too oft consider all other religions and all secular non-religious as infidels to be converted or destroyed, and actively practice Jihad to do so. And who’s supposedly peaceful moderates refuse to speak out against those radicals.

@Pete: @Pete: I sincerely, and ‘passionately’ , implore of you…please rethink any notion of “emigration” as a response to political suicide by the USA electorate! We will need all able hands and willing hearts to re-take–by force if necessary!!–the ‘government’ to ensure it upholds the Constitution! Like you, I do NOT believe it is possible for a person to openly claim to espouse the tenets of Islam and also swear an oath to uphold the Constitution of the United States….
One of those is a lie……

this county has a Muslim terrorist as a pres. now. Where is Carson’s head and mouth.

Bobby said:

“If you can find me a Muslim candidate who is a Republican, who will fight hard to protect religious liberty, who will respect the Judeo-Christian heritage of America, who will be committed to destroying ISIS and radical Islam, who will condemn cultures that treat women as second-class citizens and who will place their hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution, then yes, I will be happy to consider voting for him or her,”

Beat ya Bobby — I found a hens tooth out in the yard yesterday — haven’t seen a chicken around here in ages!

@mos 8541 #14:

“this county has a Muslim terrorist as a pres. now.”

Obama supports gay rights, women’s rights, is pro-abortion, eats pork and drinks beer.
Yeah, he’s a Muslim.