This will come as no surprise to many:
For decades, Democrats have suffered continuous and increasingly severe losses among white voters. But preparations by Democratic operatives for the 2012 election make it clear for the first time that the party will explicitly abandon the white working class.
All pretense of trying to win a majority of the white working class has been effectively jettisoned in favor of cementing a center-left coalition made up, on the one hand, of voters who have gotten ahead on the basis of educational attainment — professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists — and a second, substantial constituency of lower-income voters who are disproportionately African-American and Hispanic.
It is instructive to trace the evolution of a political strategy based on securing this coalition in the writings and comments, over time, of such Democratic analysts as Stanley Greenberg and Ruy Teixeira. Both men were initially determined to win back the white working-class majority, but both currently advocate a revised Democratic alliance in which whites without college degrees are effectively replaced by well-educated socially liberal whites in alliance with the growing ranks of less affluent minority voters, especially Hispanics.
“professors, artists, designers, editors, human resources managers, lawyers, librarians, social workers, teachers and therapists”
Mostly union members. Obama will protect the interests of lawyers.
This is of particular interest:
In the United States, Teixeira noted, “the Republican Party has become the party of the white working class,” while in Europe, many working-class voters who had been the core of Social Democratic parties have moved over to far right parties, especially those with anti-immigration platforms.
Obama has no use for working white people.
Bitter clingers and all that.
See author page
Obama is so cynical that he might just jettison Biden for Hillary …. just to insure a big part of the white FEMALE worker class.
And he thinks this sort of thing will work!
Sure, let’s say I’m thirty years younger and I’ve been watching Obama throw hubby under the bus, one policy at a time for three years.
Now, all of a sudden he asks Hillary to be his running mate.
THAT is NOT going to cause me to swoon and forget everything we (as a couple) have suffered from Obama’s policies.
I would NOT vote that ticket.
Even single women in the workplace (not the welfare ones) are smarter than that.
King Putt has no use for anyone. Not the whites. Not the blacks. Not the Hispanics. Not the Chinese. Not the academics. Not the Unions. Not the employed. Not the unemployed.
He does not need any of us.
He has his personal destruction Chicago squad, and any opponent will be flayed alive.
That is who he is. That is what he does.
The nastiest, vilest, slimiest worm ever to crawl out of a Chicago sewer.
Thank you, George Soros.
By the way: how much has Soros already made from shorting the dollar?
JUST TOO BAD FOR THEM ALL
the buck stop there, they will all BE defeated together, in one shot,
no time to waste, they are all in the destruction plan of OBAMA,
even if only because they did not speak before 2008 election,
they are and have contributed of wasted tax payer moneys all this time,
they have depress whole groups of AMERICANS unable to find jobs,
they have divided this NATION with hate speeches from the beginning of their terms,
there is no excuses for what we see in parks all around AMERICA,
THEY HAVE WELCOME IN THE WHITE HOUSE,
ELEMENTS OF THIS NATION WITH OPEN ARMS, WHICH HATE AMERICA
THE BLACKS AND THE WHITES SAID SO, MANY TIMES
Nan Hillary’s got her own plans for 2016(vs. Sarah?) I’d love it!
Dumbest move was Repubs thinking Sarah V.P. pick in 08 would secure Hillary Dems.Stupid.
How, exactly, will republican policies benefit the average working American, whatever color he or she happens to be?
Anyone who believes that whatever is best for the 1% is best for the 99% has to have a few screws loose. As often as not, the opposite is true.
I think this is an interesting ploy on the part of Obama and his re-election team.
Other Democrat-leaning voters have enough prejudices against whites, men and working people to make it seem like a good tactic, politically…..
1. Highly educated liberals look down on the white working class. (Obama got applause at a pricy SF fundraiser when he called the white working class, ”bitter clingers to their guns and Bibles.”)
2. & 3. Less educated Hispanics and blacks look upon themselves as at war with the men of the white working class.
4. And unionized workers will vote Obama in large numbers even if they happen to be white and male.
So, it is a gamble on Obama’s part.
He appears to throw a constituency under the bus in order to sew up more voters from other constituencies.
IF Obama’s idea were so smart, however, why would any Republican doing anything remotely like it seem so incredibly stupid and counterproductive?
(I mean, can you imagine???)
A true test of any idea is to extrapolate it out to ”if everybody did it.”
Under that test, Obama’s tactic is a big failure.
again he use the race card, and division of color and smart against less educated,
and AMERICANS OF ALL COLORS ARE SICK AND TIRED OF IT.
THEY ARE AMERICAN, JUST ONE WORD
He knows they are too beholden to obama to vote against him. He’s thrown so much money their way he knows they will vote for him no matter what.
Loony, racist xenophobia is running rampant here, lol!
Liberalmann
they come from the DEMOCRATS, and you in particular.
they are on the verge to open slaughter house for horse for human consumption,
they say many horses are abused
who want to eat a abused horse steak. not me, even if he’s not abuse, never will
yes she , SISTER TOLJIA, said they keep picking at PERRY and his error so small and there
OBAMA MANY MISTAKE AND HIS MEDIA is covering all under the rug,
MORONS
CURT
WHEN I click on,
active discussion,
it give me server error
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Bees
Horses are consumed in Iceland as cattle are consumed here. Learned that a couple of weeks ago when I was there.
DrJohn
I didn’t know that, and I just read about horses being send to CANADA AND MEXICO
FOR slaughter,
I was aware there was a market for horse meat in CANADA, also. I’s not big, but there
for the demand,
this part I just read in FOX news, is that the GOVERNMENT will allow to open
the okay for slaughter house to slaughter horses, on the excuse that they claim of many are neglected and abused, those who want it say they know there is a market in CHINA, and want to tap on it.
bye
Anyone who believes the 1% is largely Republican has a screw loose.
Living in the land of 1% folks, I can tell you a large, overwhelming majority is democratic. ( like the childish, lower case letter for democrats – Greg?)
The Republic Party represents the middle case worker – whatever color he or she might be.
As usual, Greggie and libtardman prove that they obsess over race.
The question in #5 seems simple and straightforward enough:
How, exactly, will republican policies benefit the average working American, whatever color he or she happens to be?
I’m not sure how asking it suggests a fixation on racial issues.
@Greg:
Like this. I doubt you’ll read it, but you should. It’s a great read.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100119741/memo-to-the-occupy-protesters-here-are-ten-things-we-evil-capitalists-really-think/
@Aqua, #19:
I took the time to read the linked post. I actually agree with a number of things that Daniel Hannan has to say. Other things, not so much. Something he says in #2 bears close examination, I think: “What has happened since 2008 is not capitalism.”
Why would he use 2008 as the reference point?
What happened in 2008 was actually a culmination of many separate things masquerading as free market capitalism that are not actually part of it at all. What 2008 revealed about the national economy is something that many supposed advocates of free market capitalism refuse to acknowledge, and are actively trying to hide: that the game is rigged. It’s rigged to the disadvantage of the average person. It’s rigged to shake down the average person–not to the advantage of the genuinely productive, but to the advantage of those in a position to make the house rules.
It’s very useful to those who benefit from the rigged game to conflate growing populace outrage about it with hostility toward capitalism and honestly acquired wealth. It’s a means of dividing the victims of the scam into two opposing partisan or philosophical camps, neutralizing the power of both in the process.
The most dangerous political question in the nation right now is What do average people on the right and average people on the left have in common? The tragedy is that no potential candidate is asking it.
Surprise, hatemonger libtardman projects his racism onto others.
GREG
did you say, why 2008, because that’s when the dividing hate speechs begun, and the PEOPLE WHERE BOMBARDED BY PROPAGANDA FROM MEDIA to sell their man coming with nothing worthy to find,
then it escalated to more divides between AMERICANS, EXCITING THE ONES TARGETED, THEY STARTED BY BUSH FAULT, TO BLACKS AGAINST WHITE, TO RIGHT AGAINST LEFT, TO TEA PARTY AGAINST TERRORIST,
TO PALIN AGAINST HELL AND DEATH WISH FROM THE YOUNG GENERATION,
NOW THEY ARE ON POOR AGAINST RICH WHICH TRIGGER THESE MOVEMENT ALL OVER BY COPYING ON THE ARAB SPRING WHICH TOOK SO MANY LIVES, DAMNED TO THOSE WE KNOW INCITED IT BY CONTRIBUTING TO IT, THESE EVENTS FROM HELL BEGAN IN 2008,
THAT’S WHAT HE MEANT, IT IS A MUST READ PAGE.
Jay Cost at the Weekly Standard has dissected Obama’s willingness to jettison the white working class male.
Obama loses if he tries this.
Here it is on one page:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/morning-jay-obama-s-reelection-strategy-riddled-problems_610750.html?nopager=1
A phobia is an irrational fear, so the terms “Islamophobic”, “homophobic” and “xenophobia” including “_ _ _ _ phobia” etc… embody a claim that the people so described are mentally ill…. There is no evidence for either claim…. These terms are simply abuse masquerading as diagnoses and suggest that the person using them is engaged in propaganda rather than in any form of rational or objective discourse.
‘scuse me, Rich, but are you now trying to tell us that the Hillary camp voted for Obama? I’d say that a single trip to Hillary’land at No Quarter would cure you of that delusion.
Greg, so sorry… if you haven’t figured out the answers to your questions yet, it’s clearly above your mental paygrade. Even when directed to a repeat of the same school of thought, you still seek to explain it away. Truly an example of a lost cause if I ever saw one.
MATA
I read a few times that he won the election because of the votes from
dead peoples
bye
Mata #25 There is no question that Hillary’s primary supporters in 2008 (WOMEN AND MEN) voted overwhelmingly for BHO over Mac/Palin in general election. I was a precinct captain for Obama and nearly every woman voter for HRC in primary assured me they were voting for Barrack over Mac in the general. See no evidence of No Quarter/Hillaryland disputing this.
Bees #26 Dead Peoples definately cemented BHO’S win.
rich, there are no stats that prove what you say is correct. Women traditionally vote Dem, save your party lost the women vote in 2010 by about 1% or so.
The reason I mentioned No Quarter is that they were, and still are, a huge and extremely pro Hillary site. There is no love there for Obama, and no proof they held their noses and pulled the lever in his favor.
The only thing you can find INRE Hill to BO voting trend is just polls months prior to the election, and pre the clsuterf*#k convention. Those results were about 28-30% of Hill supporters would vote for McCain. There is, however, no way to know what the absolutely truth was post election. No exit polls. No nothing.
It’s simply disingenuous to make the out of the blue statement that there was an “overwhelming” vote for the Zero when there are no statistics upon which you can cite or rely. This is your opinion, not a fact.
MATA You and I agree a majority of women voted for Obama as they did for Kerry,Gore and Clinton. Imho to suggest any sizable # of Hillary’s female supporters would vote for Mac/Palin over BHO lacks credibility ie it don’t make sense.
BTW Do you agree with Curt’s assessment “Republican’s are screwed?”
You miss the point, rich. You don’t *know* who they voted for, and polls prior to the election were running that 30% of the Hillary voters would turn to McCain. We have no clue what actual voters did. So your statement is, as I pointed out, nothing more than an opinion unfounded in fact. And your opinion has no more “credibility” than mine.
It also is a fact that things have changed since 2008, since the women vote went for the GOP in the midterms, with a slim majority. A new day, and evidently many aren’t like the “change” left in their pockets after Obama’s fiscal disasters.
I believe that I’ve already made the comment about Curt’s observation with my first entry on this thread. It’s also no secret that I’ve oft stated I have no dog in this race, and not exactly thrilled with any of them. Genuinely, I’m not sure there is a particular individual whom I could state would be my ideal candidate (who is alive, anyway) at this time either. Those that I find interesting and upcoming still have to put more time under their belts.
There’s two choices in this election. Go with the more of the same with Obama, or take a chance on a lesser than ideal GOP nominee. I’ll have to wait and see who comes out on top before I make any decisions. Generally, the one that I’ve felt was likely to be the most effective was Newt from the start. My problem is, will he be effective in the ways I *want* him to be effective.
But, once committed to any candidate, I then have to watch the performance in office is. After all, so many of you thought Obama was Mr. Moderate and bipartisan. There’s nothing moderate about his fiscal policy, and he’s most certainly not bipartisan. He is the war monger he promised to be when it came to Pakistan. I pointed this out pre election, and didn’t like his rhetoric then. He’s done all I thought he would, and pretty much destroyed Pakistan as an ally. But what he didn’t tell us is that he’d be busy stabbing the other fragile allies we have in the ME in the back.
So there’s lots of talk and lip service during elections by both candidates. It is the nature of sleaze politics, and I consider the vast majority of them sleaze. But the actual performance is the final stamp of approval, or disapproval. Unfortunately, we have to take a chance with what is offered up for the main course.
Mata Wouldn’t you agree that if even close to 30% of Hillary’s primary supporters had voted for Mac/Palin the final tally would not have had BHO up close to 8.5 million, and in an E.C. (365-173) rout?
First of all, rich, only those attempting to twist truth for whatever their agenda is would call this election a “rout”. Get serious… you want to play that game, you’d have to say that Clinton’s two victories left Obama in the dust with the ’96 (379-159) election, and ’92 (370-168). I’d hardly call them windfalls. And Reagan’s 1980 election was a 489-49, followed by the 1984 with 525-13. Perspective… you need a serious dose of this in your life. Otherwise, you’ll simply have to seek out a dumber audience.
This kind of game playing becomes especially odd from the side of the fence that preaches “popular vote” all the time, don’t you think? After all, Clinton’s electoral numbers were better than Obama’s, but he never topped 49% of the popular vote. Obama’s electoral numbers were less, but he got 52.87% of the popular vote. Reagan’s popular vote in ’84 was 58.77%, but his landslide in ’80 was only 50.75%.
So you pick numbers and games to fit your narrative, or what?
47% of the nation did *not* want this POTUS, and I hardly call that some sort of a mandate of one ideology over another. As is usual, whether via popular or electoral votes, this nation is split into part lib/prog and part conservative. But whatever floats your boat…. hey, it’s the Christmas season. If that makes your Obama’lovin’ heart happy, have at it. Doesn’t make it more true.
Now to address your further desperate attempts to spin truth out of air, what you don’t consider in your fake facts are the new young voters that entered the scene, and instead attributing them to those holding their noses. Fact is the 2008 turnout was the highest since 1964.
Now, unless you have access to all those votes, who they were and who they were supporting prior to the final election, you’re still talking out your azz, guy….
@Richard Wheeler:
Yeah, but now they have to vote for someone else to prove they’re not idiots.
Dr. J. Misogynists like you are the reason Dems enjoy such overwhelming support from the distaff side. LOL
Richard Wheeler
no matter what you say,
you cannot beat this one from DrJohn, it’s a diamond, no matter how big the words you bring,
like you’re misoindigenusflectionauraganosalgorithmetricflye
@Richard Wheeler:
Not so, Rich. All Obama voters need to do the same. You just happened to be speaking of women.
The saying is
“You voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you’re not a racist. Now you need to vote for anyone else in 2012 to prove you’re not an idiot.”
And man, is it ever true.
Dr J. #35 When you prove you’re not a racist, I’ll prove I’m not an idiot.Fun yet?
Semper Fi
@Richard Wheeler:
You haven’t yet proved you’re an idiot. Voting for Obama again will cement it, though.
I have not ever proved I am a racist. Hell, I’d still vote for Cain. Love the guy.
Given the apparent infidelities, I am shocked democrats don’t love him too. They love to vote for adulterers.
And idiots.
@Richard Wheeler:
A negative cannot be proven.
Idiot.
@ Greg, #20:
Careful Greg, you’re treading very close to crossing over to the dark side. 2008 showed us that the government was in the game of picking winners and losers. No matter which party you support, this is unacceptable. I would have been wrong for a republican president and congress to prop up GM and make sure the unions suffered. It was wrong that a democrat president and congress propped up GM and made sure everyone but the unions suffered. The banks should have been allowed to fail and break up into smaller entities. There would have been some pain involved, but I believe we would be in a better place now. Now the insider trading story going on in congress on both sides is gaining traction. What the average people on the left and right have in common is the fact that congress and big business are engaged in gaming the system; it’s called crony capitalism. How we react is what will most likely be different. I think the left will look for the federal government to fix things. I want the States to stand up and take their power back. That is the only way to fix this mess. Decentralize the power and give it back to the people. And that power lies with the individual States.
Dr. J. and Aye Thanks for the laughs. You guys are great!
Mata Very testy no? As you know I don’t prefer popular vote but you gotta admit “W’s” loss in 2000 made many happy.Dang that E.C.
8.5 million plurality and over 2-1 in E.C. in 2008 sure wasn’t a squeaker.
BTW I too agree with Curt. “Republicans are screwed” Cain out (hurts Romney) probably means Gingrich in and a loss to BHO.
Truth is “testy”? A bit hypersensitive to facts, are we? LOL
Mata We’re not arguing facts— Obama won. We’re discussing opinions.
Fact Herman Cain is out..Opinion This will help Gingrich and hurt Romney.
AYE
29 th DECEMBER 2011,
A HAPPY NEW TEAR FOR YOU AND LOVED ONES
BYE