Obama’s Economy: Net Jobs Added In August….Zero!

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What a leader:

Employers added no net workers last month and the unemployment rate was unchanged, a sign that many were nervous the U.S. economy is at risk of slipping into another recession.

The Labor Department says total payrolls were unchanged in August, the weakest report in almost a year. It’s the first time since February 1945 that the government has reported a net job change of zero. The unemployment rate stayed at 9.1 percent.

[summary here]

Economists predicted a gain of 75,000 jobs, instead we got 0.

The excuse you are bound to hear from Obamapologists:

A strike by 45,000 Verizon workers lowered the job totals. Those workers are now back on the job.

But the numbers for June and July were revised downward by 55,000 in the same report so the excuse is no excuse at all.

And when you add in the fact that the real unemployment rate is over 16% when you consider those would like to work full-time but can only find part-time work and those those who have given up completely (U6 methodology) then you can come to only one real conclusion.

Obama has been a disaster for this country. In fact he has done everything in his power to ensure we join the third world ranks soon.

UPDATE

Frankly, I expect Obama’s jobs speech to be the worst presidential speech in my lifetime. Their position throughout this recovery has been that the U.S. can have the highest corporate tax on earth, a big regulatory crackdown, and a vast expansion of labor-union power, and still expect a positive jobs story because of cash-for-clunkers and green jobs. This jobs report indicates how much damage that view has done.

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I have been telling everyone who will listen (and some who do not want to) that BHO is intentionally trying to collapse our economy. Oh, its not all his plan, he has Georg Soros there for the heavy intelluctual lifting, as this is old hat to him- he collapsed the economies of Britain, Greece, and, Italy-
The boy knows how its done- and now he is going to try and collapse ours.
The TEA Party should have called themselves the Praetorian Guards, as it has been their concerted involvement that has slowed the progress of this dismantling of America, for now. But we need to realize in a truly visceral way that we cannot let off on the pressure- the consequences are too dire if we do.

Federal regulations added since Obama took office add approximately $10,000 a year to the annual cost of every new employee in America.
Permanently.
(Well, until Obama is gone and some of these regulations are undone, anyway.)

Will Obama’s temporary”incentives” to business owners be enough to offset this?
Up until now they had been less than $2,500 per new employee for one year.
Not enough.
~~~~~~~~~
As attrition eats away at hubby’s business’ ability to even do the job of a quick-turn around print business, he is faced with the dilemma: hire an unknown who may not even show up on time or make do with holes in his production line.
A big factor: less demand for ANY production.

If it weren’t for the casinos and a few long-term customers he wouldn’t still be in business at all.
Why is it that worker productivity is falling?
Because there is less demand for product.

He’s making do with less.
Now, multiply that millions of times for small businesses all over the country.

Obama writes:
[I] requested that Administrator Jackson withdraw the draft Ozone National Ambient Air Quality Standards at this time. Work is already underway to update a 2006 review of the science that will result in the reconsideration of the ozone standard in 2013.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/obama-withdraws-environmental-rules-citing-business-burden/

This was a NEW PROPOSED legislation, more new regulations.
Up until now, it has not cost Americans one job or dime.
So, it isn’t like Obama helped create new jobs doing this.
He just won’t be costing more potential jobs in future.

According to the EPA’s own Regulatory Impact Analysis, the new Ozone National Ambient Air Quality standards would impose $90 billion of costs on the U.S. economy annually!
http://www.ncpa.org/sub/dpd/index.php?Article_ID=21050

Putin told us, Obama, and the world, Socialism doesn’t work. The only ones surprised are the blockheads from academia that Obama has surrounded himself with and the empty headed Liberal Lackeys in the propaganda bureau, called the MSM, who keep trying to figure out new ways to spin a dismal failure to look like he is a genius.

The “Unexpected” lead to every disaster and failure only reflects the progressive surprise that Socialism and the policies for wealth redistribution and enrichment of corporate thieves like Goldman Sachs and the unions isn’t propelling America towards prosperity.

Can America withstand another 15 months of incompetence and corruption? Don’t be surprised if we can’t.

Recovery Summer Part 3: FAIL!

Truth is, the numbers are worse than published,(it’s not 9.1%), and there are little items like this which don’t make the picture for the next five years look very positive at all, . . . .

“Among the more disturbing numbers: the amount of people “marginally attached to the labor force” rose to 2.6 million from 2.4 million. These are workers not included in the unemployment count because they had not sought work in the past four weeks but have looked in the past year.”
(August Jobs Report Reveals Zero Net Jobs Created For The First Time Since 1945)

Business Insider borrows Calculated Risk‘s ”Scariest Jobs Chart Ever” updated to include today’s numbers.

Here’s their bottom line.

So as you can see, the depth of the decline was much worse than any other recession, and what’s more, the pace of the recovery is much weaker than in previous ones. Over a year it was looking as though the recovery might be kind of V-Shaped (a really big, wide V), but now it’s clear that the comeback won’t look anything like the decline. And now the comeback is basically flatlining.

Yeah, scary.

Pretty soon we will be plotting this ”recession” while adding into the mix the line described by the Great Depression.
Maybe only then we will get the big picture of what Obama’s policies in response to a downturn have done to us.

Curt,
“I expect Obama’s jobs speech to be the worst presidential speech in my lifetime. “

Please all line up at the wicket to place your bets on that one.

When will these people in the White House understand that Government doesn’t create jobs, but it can kill them? . . . . Particularly when an Administration takes such an ignorant but aggressive stance “against” business.

We’ll have to call him double zero or quad zero.
Number of Olympic games he brought to the U.S.? =0
Job growth in the of August 2011? =0
Number of “wars” he’s won? =0
Number of schemes to stimulate the economy
that worked? =0

I bet he’d also allow the Chinese to buy the Los Angeles Dodgers.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2033067/Are-Chinese-government-secretly-backing-bid-buy-LA-Dodgers.html
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-dodgers-mccourt-sale-20110902,0,3026247.story
I think having a Peking Duck concessions stand would be wonderful.
But I’d never trust the ”Dodger Dogs,” again!

@Nan G:
Lol Nan. The New Dodger dog….made with real dog.
My fear when I eat at a Chinese restaurant? That I’ll open my fortune cookie and my fortune will say,” That wasn’t chicken you ate.”

“Net Jobs Added In August….Zero!”

Yes indeed! We should all extend our heartfelt congratulations and thanks to the republican party for bringing about a successful debt ceiling crisis at the end of the immediately preceding month.

Cause and effect. See how that works?

@Wilson:
What color is the sky in your world? It would be nice if you joined the sane people like us in ours.
Now you can skitter off never to return to the thread like you usually do. Coming back would mean seeing how badly you were proven to be wrong and shown to be an unintelligent parrot of shallow talking points.

BTW, obama and the dems created the standoff but tried to blame the GOP. Not to mention they had a year plus to create a budget when they had the majority, but didn’t. See how reality and truth works? Of course not. If you had any brains you’d be a Conservative.
I would also say your post further proves you are in fact the flaming leftist we knew you to be.

The moral of the story is that it’s everyone’s fault but Obama’s.

I’m depressed by the political situation.

It doesn’t matter who is in “power.” Each side not in power does everything in its power to sabotage the side which is in power. Then, each election or two, there’s a switch in for whom the electorate votes. So no one looks further ahead than the next election. Meanwhile, our bridges rust away; our kids won’t study engineering; we hurl all our vitriol at each other; and China laughs all the way to becoming the great economic and military power of the 21st century.

I’m convinced that we need a parliamentary system. Won’t happen, but we need it. Parliamentary systems require one party to control both the executive and legislative or else to form a working coalition with another party to achieve such a majority. This way, if the government fails, it’s unambiguously the fault of one party. The way it is now, no party gets the chance to succeed or fail on its own terms. It’s always being sabotaged by the other party. And the country just gets angrier and angrier.

Under a parliamentary system, also, the party in power is guaranteed 5 years in power, so it can at least have a plan which looks that far ahead, as opposed to effectively what we have today, which is 18 months, even presuming that a party can ever get a House majority and a filibuster-proof Senate super majority.

It’s truly a horribly dysfunctional system. It creates government failure and national divisiveness.

– Larry Weisenthal/Huntington Beach, CA

@openid.aol.com/runnswim:

Meanwhile, our bridges rust away;

I don’t know what bridges you see everyday, but OUR bridges are NOT rusting away here at the Ports of LB and LA.
They are up-kept constantly including painting with a rust-inhibitor.
When one paint job ends, the next one begins.
Our under and overpasses on our freeways have all been upgraded, too.
New uprights (that can withstand a higher than 7. something earthquake) are holding them up.

You probably want a parliamentary system because it is working so well in the socialized European countries….NOT!

#13

“What color is the sky in your world? It would be nice if you joined the sane people like us in ours.”

I’d rather be in a world where there’s more consistency and less hypocrisy. Tell me–when Cantor said no disaster relief should be paid without equal spending cuts somewhere else, was he including the billions Perry is demanding to cover Texas wildfires?

@Wilson: You said:

Yes indeed! We should all extend our heartfelt congratulations and thanks to the republican party for bringing about a successful debt ceiling crisis at the end of the immediately preceding month.

So the GOP is responsible for the debt ceiling crisis? Remind me who spent how many trillion since 2007??

The Dems led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, that’s who.

@Wilson: Just like Greg: the window in your stomach that you look out of is obviously fogged up (I didn’t say fugged up).

The only hypocrite I see is you. You claim you hate when the GOP acts hypocritically just as much as when the dems do. Yet you never comment on threads about them doing it. You only attack the GOP when they do it (in your deranged opinion) . Maybe you aren’t a hypocrite. Maybe you’re just a liar..or both.

As for your question, I disagree with Cantor. Pay out the funds but include offsetting cuts later.
BTW genius, it’s millions, NOT BILLIONS in firefighting costs he is asking for help with.
Also, you do understand that Cantor and Perry aren’t the same people right? That they together or by themselves don’t equal the entire GOP? Of course you do, but you need to cover your dishonesty somehow.

Maybe Obama has a plan for the upcoming 30,000 layoffs from B of A. Perhaps they can all bunk in the empty Solyndra building in Fremont.

It’s a LEED certified building with some great solar panels on it.

@Wilson:

Hmmm. So, what you are saying is that if I eat baked beans with my neighbor, then I’m responsible for excess methane floating around his house?

Employment numbers below from:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/hidden_jobs_killer_nfudBPzZv0PL5qAo82bArM

After Obama took office in 1-2009 the economy started to recover.
Over the next 15 months; private employers began hiring workers at an average rate of 67,600 per month. The economy’s high point came with the April 2010 report, when 229,000 jobs were added.
(Census workers counted)

So, what happened?
ObamaCare passed in March 2010.
Since then til now, the economy added an average of just 6,500 jobs per month — less than a tenth the pre-ObamaCare average.

See, business still can’t hire new workers unless they know what new workers will cost them.
And we don’t know.
The biggest thing Obama could to to help job creation in his speech Thurs is to call for ObamaCare to be scrapped.

Now, I heard that Obama’s aids are spreading the word that Obama has no plan.
His speech will not be anything more than a political stump speech with both Houses of Congress as props.

@openid.aol.com/runnswim: Given how divided this country is, do you think we’ll end up like Italy where we would change who is in charge every 6 months? There would probably be “no confidence” votes every other month. Look at what happened in Wisconsin. As for practicality, we only have two major parties and they have a death lock on our political system. There is no way they will work together. In order for a parliamentary system to work with checks and balances, it’ll require more than two major parties which would force them to work as a coalition or lose power and our two parties are not about to let that happen. Those European countries with parliamentary have a very angry electorate right now as well. They’ve have had more riots and demonstrations than we have had but if we continue our downward spiral, they will become more common here as well. When times are tough, people get angry. I’m probably preaching to the choir here.

@Nan G: Ironically, the best thing that may happen for him is if SCOTUS declares Obamacare to be unconstitutional well enough in advance of the 2012 elections to where it positively affects the economy and job growth in the months before the election.

@Wilson: How about Dems hold up disaster funding for subsidizing for ellectric cars? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904583204576542770484363328.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop

@anticsrocks:

So the GOP is responsible for the debt ceiling crisis? Remind me who spent how many trillion since 2007??

The Dems led by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, that’s who.

Hey man, buy a clue. I don’t know if you’ve been keeping up with current events, but the Republican House signed off on a FURTHER $2.4TRILLION in more deficit spending.

Let’s not get started with the Republican congress of 2003 to 2007 and their profligate spending ways.

Of course, this is lost on you.

@Hard Right:

The only hypocrite I see is you. You claim you hate when the GOP acts hypocritically just as much as when the dems do. Yet you never comment on threads about them doing it. You only attack the GOP when they do it (in your deranged opinion) . Maybe you aren’t a hypocrite. Maybe you’re just a liar..or both.

Wow, if they handed out “Hypocrite awards” on the internet, you’d be first in line HR.

You’re impersonation of “See no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil”, with respect to the Republicans and their endorsement of Obama’s big spending ways is not lost on most of the readers here at FA.

@Larry W: Parliamentary systems require one party to control both the executive and legislative or else to form a working coalition with another party to achieve such a majority. This way, if the government fails, it’s unambiguously the fault of one party. The way it is now, no party gets the chance to succeed or fail on its own terms. It’s always being sabotaged by the other party. And the country just gets angrier and angrier.

Larry, what you are suggesting is not only a long term “supermajority”, so to speak, but advocating abolishment of the separation of powers that, altho distorted over history, was key to the founding principles …. so as to avoid exactly what we do not want. NOT to lay all that authority in “one party”, or any one branch of government.

While it may be convenient for political fingerpointing, it’s certainly not healthy for the nation to be dominated by a single party’s agenda. We’ve had ample demonstration of the dangers of any single party’s dominance in the three branches just over the past couple of decades.

The CRS did a 2005 comparison of the House of Commons vs the House of Representatives. You will not find me desirous of the overwhelming governmental agenda controlled, even in debate, by a single party for 130 days of their sessions. Only “government” (aka majority Parliment) can present the legislation and during the 20 days that the primary and secondary minority parties control the chamber’s debate, they are not allowed to introduce legislation. Candidates are chosen by constituency committees, unlike our candidates who can personally choose to run… or not… and are left to public scrutiny and primaries.

Their redistricting is done by Electoral Commission, not census results, and the commissions recommendations are forwarded on the Parliament and implemented, without change.

And while Parliament may not hold power longer than five years without an election, they also have to petition the Queen to dissolve Parliament prior to holding that election. So if we have a partisan POTUS, who needs more time to push thru the agenda before an election… especially if the sway of the citizens is against his/her agenda’s tide… you want that power to lie in a POTUS, just as it does in the monarchy?

As far as I can see, you seek not only to place a vast amount of power into the hands of a privileged few, allow for even more political manipulation to hold power as long as possible, but to eliminate dissention about legislation and agendas by just giving control to one party and a few commissions. I’d say that’s a relatively safe wish if you’re a lib/prog, since the history of control of Congressional chambers weighs heavily in the party you favor. But of course, what has that wrought over the past 80 years but runaway debt from Dem created and implemented social welfare entitlement programs?

What you suggest is antithesis to everything that this nation was founded on. Seems to be that, if you favor that type of system, it would be much easier to just relocate to the UK than to advocate a “you’ve had your 30 minutes say, now STFU” attitude for political minority opinions in the US…. all so you don’t have to listen to empassioned differences of opinion.

This nation has always been divided and diverse in opinions. What we have different is that, when it comes to Congress, they aren’t so different at all. They all increase the size of government, add agencies, spend taxpayers money unwisely, and refuse to undo the damage they have done. What you are listening to is nothing more than the political mudslinging that happens every election cycle. The quest for power was always a dirty business, and remains so today. You just hear it more because of the Info Age instant information. You don’t have to wait for a pamphlet from the Pony Express, depend upon one of three network news shows on three times a day, and read a local paper. With the info age, you hear everything instantly, and more… and that includes the opinions of many surrounding you who never had a public voice before.

Hard Right to Wilson: As for your question, I disagree with Cantor. Pay out the funds but include offsetting cuts later. BTW genius, it’s millions, NOT BILLIONS in firefighting costs he is asking for help with.

Just to clarify the situation, Perry is requesting a formal declaration of “disaster” for additional funds. That declaration was denied. FEMA approved 25 fire management assistance grants in April to Texas, and between FEMA and the WH, have decided that the needs of the state are not beyond what state and local governments can handle.

Whether that’s true or not, I don’t know. What I do know is that Texas is not being ignored and, if they aren’t getting enough, then Perry is not presenting the fiscal and real facts in a convincing manner.

As for political perceptions, since Perry does campaign on the fact that the state is in superior fiscal shape to others (due to his policies), it appears a real negative to state they are incapable of taking care of their own, and need more than what FEMA has already been been doling out. So count me mixed on the Perry posturing here. But then, I’m still quite mixed on most of Perry’s posturing.

@MataHarley: #29,

You’re quite right to point to the positives which rest in “Separation of Power.” That pillar in America’s foundation, does not exist in Parliamentary systems when a party forms a government with a Majority of the seats in the House.

In England, 5 years, and in Canada 4 years – Majorities rule as Dictatorships. While “decisions” get made, which can be positive, the reality is that corruption gets institutionalized, if a particular party holds power for extended periods of time. Liberal ideology has taken control of practically all Parliamentary democracies.

The unfortunate result, as we have witnessed in Canada, Great Britain and elsewhere in Europe, is an entrenchment of Entitlement Mentality. This is ruining those countries.

The only reason Canada is semi-safe economically, is because the U.S. needs its electricity, mostly from Hudson’s Bay, and its oil/gas from Alberta. It has also let immigration run out of control, which has created a bubbled demand for housing. Its economy will implode inevitably, since about 56% of the immigrants of the past decade are on some form of government assistance, and ALL of them are getting Free healthcare – its free after they’re in Canada 3 months. Universal healthcare is incredibly easy to abuse. In Canada its out of control. There are 3 times as many CanadaCare cards issued and used in British Columbia, for example, as there are PEOPLE in the Province.

On and off through the years, Canada has won the trophy for Most Lost Manhours Due To Strikes. Canada appears to be striving hard to redefine the definition of Entitlement Mentality. All delivered by a Parliamentary system, where Political Parties pretzelize themselves into pandering sloths, grasping for the Majority ring, appealing to the lowest common denominators in society, who will vote for whoever will deliver the biggest handouts.

There are No Effective checks and balances. …… And a loudmouth shouting from the minority Opposition across the aisle in Parliament, is neither a check, nor a balance.

@Ivan: LOL Ivanski. Why are you ignoring the FIVE TRILLION that Pelosi and Reid piled on to the national debt?

Me thinks you are just cherry picking again.

Go drink your haterade somewhere else, dude.

@Blake, #1:

I have been telling everyone who will listen (and some who do not want to) that BHO is intentionally trying to collapse our economy.

That’s patently absurd. It’s worse than totally absurd. It turns the truth on it’s head. Consider:

To whose political advantage would it be in 2012 if the U.S. economy has been clearly improving?

To whose political advantage would it be in 2012 if it hasn’t been?

Immediately after the 2008 elections, republicans correctly calculated that the only way they would be able to retake control in the next election would be for economic recovery to fail under Barack Obama. Assuring that failure has been their highest priority.

Consider Mitch McConnell’s unequivocal statement in October, 2010:

“The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

On July 10, 2011, he asked about that statement by Bret Baier on Fox News Sunday. His reply:

“Well, that is true. That’s my single most important political goal, along with every active Republican in the country.”

He couldn’t have been clearer. The implications couldn’t be more obvious.

Greg: Immediately after the 2008 elections, republicans correctly calculated that the only way they would be able to retake control in the next election would be for economic recovery to fail under Barack Obama. Assuring that failure has been their highest priority.

Consider Mitch McConnell’s unequivocal statement in October, 2010…

McConnell.. of whom I am no fan.. made a statement in October, 2010, and that’s “immediately after the 2008 elections”???

Math still ain’t your strong suit, Greg.

So, with a Senate supermajority, and hefty House majority… an era in which the Dems, in total control, didn’t even need the GOP to show up at Congress every day… what is it you suggest that the GOP could have done to “.. assure that failure has been their highest priority”? You and your party may take full blame/credit (depending on your political aspect) for everything from Jan 2009 until Jan 2011. The GOP could not “assure” any failure that the Dems did not heap upon themselves voluntarily. In fact, they were powerless to stop O’healthcare, the ARRA and Dodd-Frank.

Spin spin spin. At least you could make a mini attempt at doing it effectively, Greg.

@Greggie: Why, theoretically would Obie want the economy to collapse?

His former chief of staff has the answer to that one.

“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.” – Rahm Emanuel

Sec. of State Hillary Clinton said the same thing in 2009 to the European Parliament when they were discussing Climate Change.

Take yourself back to 5 days before the last Presidential election, Greggie.

When Obie said:

“We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America!”

Now I know you were probably drooling like a rabid dog after hearing him say this, but is there any slim chance that you might have bothered to stop and ask yourself any questions about this?

* What fundamentals of America does he want to change?

* What does he want to change America into, fundamentally?

* How exactly does he want to transform America?

* Doesn’t he just want to improve America, instead of change it?
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McConnell.. of whom I am no fan.. made a statement in October, 2010, and that’s “immediately after the 2008 elections”???

Generally there’s a reason for separating two short statements into single-sentence paragraphs.

So, with a Senate supermajority, and hefty House majority… an era in which the Dems, in total control, didn’t even need the GOP to show up at Congress every day… what is it you suggest that the GOP could have done to “.. assure that failure has been their highest priority”?

There was continuous obstruction, wherever and whenever possible: a steady stream of politically contrived poison-pill amendments in the House, and monkey-wrenching filibusters in the Senate. The propaganda war began immediately: personal vilification, relentless negativity, condemnation of every recovery effort, spin and outright lies–24/7 for nearly 3 straight years. Since republicans have regained control of the House, they’ve done nothing but crank out a stream of posturing legislation that they know can’t pass in the Senate, block essential routine business, and extort concessions wherever possible.

The best hope is that competing republican extremist factions will rip each other to shreds before they get a chance to rip apart the social fabric of the nation. Maybe then sane, centrist republicans can have something to say without being attacked by their own party.

@Greggie: You continue to amaze. You whined:

There was continuous obstruction, wherever and whenever possible: a steady stream of politically contrived poison-pill amendments in the House, and monkey-wrenching filibusters in the Senate. The propaganda war began immediately: personal vilification, relentless negativity, condemnation of every recovery effort, spin and outright lies–24/7 for nearly 3 straight years. Since republicans have regained control of the House, they’ve done nothing but crank out a stream of posturing legislation that they know can’t pass in the Senate, block essential routine business, and extort concessions wherever possible.

Had the GOP possessed control of both houses of Congress and the Oval Office, what would you have the Dems do to block, stop or at least slow down legislation you didn’t agree with???

That is how the system works, quit crying, grow up and maybe (highly doubtful) you might learn something.

@anticsrocks, #36:

Had the GOP possessed control of both houses of Congress and the Oval Office, what would you have the Dems do to block, stop or at least slow down legislation you didn’t agree with???

Less than 5 years ago that was exactly the situation. Republicans had had majorities in the House and Senate for 12 consecutive years, with a republican in the Oval Office for the last 6 of them. At no time was there the level of across-the-board obstructionism that we’ve witnessed since the beginning of 2009.

@Greg:

At no time was there the level of across-the-board obstructionism that we’ve witnessed since the beginning of 2009.

Revisionist history again.

@Greg:

Mata said: McConnell.. of whom I am no fan.. made a statement in October, 2010, and that’s “immediately after the 2008 elections”???

Greg: Generally there’s a reason for separating two short statements into single-sentence paragraphs.

This means what, Greg? Was your comment about McConnell’s Oct 2010 statement not meant as some sort of (weak) support for your statement that the GOP was “…Assuring that [Obama’s] failure has been their highest priority”… since “… immediately following the 2008 election”?

Here’s the gig. You can separate those two statements into as many paragraphs as you want. But you stated that the GOP noted that Obama’s “failure” had been their highest priority since after the 2008 election. And what do you have to back up that truly imbecile statement? i.e….. exactly what power did the GOP have following the 2008 election that would prohibit Obama/Pelosi/Reid from even picking their teeth in public?

So you follow up with McConnell’s fall 2010 statement. Well news flash… October was just before Nov midterms where you and your buds got your political butts trounced because… Obama HAD failed. He did so on his own, with Pelosi and Reid, and the GOP has had no say whatsoever in governance since the 2008 elections because they had too few representatives to stop, or start squat.

Is this truly so hard for you to see? Did you just conveniently forget the past years, or what?

There was continuous obstruction, wherever and whenever possible: a steady stream of politically contrived poison-pill amendments in the House, and monkey-wrenching filibusters in the Senate.

Oh for heavens sakes, Greg. Think back on the obstructionism in the past. It’s the way of politics. However, in your cited era, the Dems have had unchallengable control of the House, Senate and WH since 2009. Any “obstructionism” as far as legislation goes came from your own blue dogs, guy. That’s because not all of them are in the socialist tent where you live. You cannot blame the GOP for the fact you can’t even convince all your own party of the value of O’healthcare, Dodd-Frank and ARRA without an all out brawl and back room secret tricks and deals.

You can try to rewrite history all you want, Greg. We’ll be here to remind you that the GOP has been impotent since the 2008 election. So it’s all you, guy….. roll around in the political sty and spending created in that time. Your POTUS has been successful in his promises to implement a stepping stone health care plan that leads to his treasured single payer. He spent taxpayer money up the whazoooo, with no positive effect on growth, but a serious effect on the long term debt. He and his cronies have dodged the entitlement reform debate, which was key to the US credit downgrade.

And it’s the fault of the GOP?

Greg, I’m here to tell you, the GOP ain’t a group of angels…. but you can’t blame your own failings, and that of your POTUS and party, on them this time.

Spin spin spin. Again, you might at least try to attempt to be good at your spin.

Republicans had had majorities in the House and Senate for 12 consecutive years, with a republican in the Oval Office for the last 6 of them. At no time was there the level of across-the-board obstructionism that we’ve witnessed since the beginning of 2009.

Oh horse manure. As johngalt says simply…. “revisionist history again”. Truly, do you have a current events history problem, or what?

The GOP/Dem splits in the Congressional chambers were not massive and definitely not a supermajority. Do you know how often supermajorities happen? Look it up…. tisn’t often. Most of the time the chambers have a slight degree majority one way or the other… and historically, mostly your party. Thus the entitlement programs that were created and dragging us down. Relish that accomplishment while whining about obstructionism. Too bad it hasn’t happened in the past 80 years more often and we wouldn’t be flounding on the runaway train of Medicare, eh?

As far as playing innocent over no “obstructionism”… thanks for the laugh, Greg. Certainly amused me. Tho I do find it frightful if you actually believe your own rhetoric.

From#35
“The best hope is that competing republican extremist factions will rip each other to shreds before they get a chance to “rip apart the social fabric of the nation”. Maybe then sane, centrist republicans can have something to say without being attacked by their own party.”

I’m confused, at this point in time, ‘if’ there is a “social fabric” of this nation, what is it exactly?
In detail please.

@Greggie: You said:

At no time was there the level of across-the-board obstructionism that we’ve witnessed since the beginning of 2009.

What amazes me is that you are able to spread this BS as easily as you do.

Were you living under a rock during those years? Or are you just able to turn a blind eye to the tactics of the Dems?

@Ivan:
You telling anyone to buy a clue or calling anyone a hypocrite shows how loony you are.
Little FYI, have I celebrated the “deal” they made? No I haven’t. In fact I have voiced my disapproval.
A democrat like yourself doesn’t care about those facts. You’re too busy displaying your GOP derrangement and general mental instability.

Good lord greg, is there somethng wrong with you? Do you have some kind of learning disability? Believe it or not I’m being serious and not trying to insult you. The dems did everything they could to undermine and obstruct what the GOP/Bush did. They TRIED to make us lose in Iraq all so they could get back into power. Yet you actually think the current GOP is obstructing what obama wants to do? Even after they caved and pretty much gave him what he wanted on the debt ceiling?
Really, I shouldn’t be surprised as you have already accused them of trying to destroy the economy so that obama will lose the election. Project much greg?

what we hear is all from DEMOCRATS LIES, THEY will say anything to discredit the other party, be it REPUBLICAN, OR CONSERVATIVES OR THE TEA PARTY, WE MUST SEE CLEAR IN THEIR NEFARIOUS INTENT, AND THEY ARE NOW SO DESPERATE THEY USE HATE WORDS ON OUR SIDE TO INCITE,
THE MOST DEVILISH WAY TO GOVERN AND HOPE TO CLING TO POWER IN AN
AMERICA WOUNDED BY THE STRANGERS WHO LEAD THIS ONCE SO STRONG NATION,
TO BOW THEIR HEAD IN FRONT OF THEIR ENEMY.

I honestly think Greg’s taken a blow too many to the head over the years, if he’s rewritting history this badly. Wasn’t it the Democrats who aggressively in 2002 to 2006 tried serious Gridlock/lawsuit plans to halt the Senate and Congress sessions from carrying forward and then blaming the GOP for failure to do anything?

Good news.
The overbearing pro-union majority on the National Labor Relations Board that Obama put in place is about to end.

1. NLRB board Chair Wilma Liebman left the agency after her term expired Aug. 27.
2. President Barack Obama’s recess appointment of another board member, labor lawyer Craig Becker, runs out Dec. 31.
3.Combined with a long-standing vacancy, those departures would leave just two of the board’s five seats occupied.
4. In the absence of any new appointments — which Republicans have vowed to block — the board will fall short of a quorum.

I hope Boeing can wait that long.
Now, who believes that Obama will work (in a bi-partisan manner) with Republicans to fill those seats with sensible persons?

@MataHarley: @#39 You Go MataHarley!! You Go!!

@Hard Right: You are correct in that from the time the socialists came into their majorities in Congress in 2006, their whole agenda was to block ANYTHING Bush proposed, to make sure he did not get any credit for ANYTHING that happened on his watch.
Now that the Kenyan-in-Chief has been in power, (since NOTHING this man has done was correct OR effective) NOW, everything is said to be Bush’s fault.
You moronic asshat socialists can’t have it both ways-