
Charles Krauthammer is his usual awesome self here during a segment on PBS in which he points out how the show he is visiting, and liberals in general, are simple obsessed…mind-numbingly, compulsively obsessed with Sarah Palin:
I know none of you need any evidence of this obsession since we see it daily, but here is just one very recent example. “Comedian” Sandra Bernhard laying into Sarah and her daughter, calling Bristol a hooker: (h/t Newbusters)
What a nasty bunch that was. Strong symbols for feminism they are not.
I always find it humorous how the left insists that Sarah Palin has no credibility, as a person or a politician, but freak out, I mean just FREAK out with any Sarah news nugget. Whether it comes from Todd, their kids, or Sarah herself.
If she has no credibility then what the hell are they worried about?
What a sick demented bunch these liberal’s afflicted with PDS are.

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Obviously, the Liberals know something that the Conservatives don’t…and that would be that Sarah is more electable everyday and they f’ng fear her!
There is a pattern in 99% of liberal comments. They are almost always hateful, vulgar, insulting and untrue. The good thing is Sarah Palin does not care. She’s a bright, energetic, strong, caring and experienced executive. Her main objective is what is best for this country as a whole. To want anything else is impossible and destructive.
It’s so much fun to watch the liberals have a cow over Palin. It is just a confirmation of how wacho they really are.
Never underestimate anyone, especially in politics, firefights, hockey, and football, etc. They deke you and you look like a defeated fool. Sarah Bernhardt, being ugly both inside and out is a failed entertainer. Joyless Behar’s skit on Headline News is the bottom feeder for ratings. The other two haters are complete unknowns. All these ignorant harpies pick on a single mother who is trying to better herself. Who is the swan and who are the ugly ducklings?
The left’s fear of Sarah Palin is truly breathtaking. Notice that their attacks on Juan McCain were rather minimal, even during a presidential campaign! Of course that translated into the left knowing full well that he was a limp-wristed sell-out and loser. But these sub-human clowns are all over Palin, 24/7. That is terror at work!!
Palin Must Be Perfect
David Jeffers
Note to Sarah Palin: if you are seriously considering a run for the White House, you must be perfect. Perfect how?
First, you must know World Geography to the point of actually knowing that Anote Tong is president of Kiribati.
You also must be gaffe free. If you should say, for example, that there are 57 United States of America, expect to be excoriated the mainstream media and perhaps all 57, or 50, governors.
If you should misspeak on Glenn Beck’s radio program by saying we need to stand with our North Korean allies, even though 8 seconds prior you had identified North Korea as the aggressor, well not only should you be belittled by your own countrymen, but also world leaders.
And so the Palin Derangement Syndrome (PDS) has clearly become a global malady.
Making it all about Palin and her family is congruent with Alinsky Rule #13.
I think much of this is carried out by media people of limited intelligence who have internalized that view of the world without realizing it.
Curt, I understand you’re a super big fan, and this is a conservative blog, but your repeated insistence that Sarah Palin is somehow a victim, and treated differently, by the media doesn’t hold much water given the facts. Palin is (for now) a retired politician, a pundit (on Fox, Twitter, etc.), a paid public speaker for various national causes (Tea Party and conservative events) and a celebrity (on her TBS reality show). None of those mantles were thrust upon her and all of them come with the obvious price of media attention and scrutiny. She is very popular, thus she receives an inordinate amount of positive and negative press. That’s the price of celebrity.
But there is another important thing to consider. Do Liberals have anxiety over her qualifications for the Presidency and her political viewpoints? Yes. That’s because she has admitted to weighing a run for the nomination. That’s big news and should be treated as such, considering her favoribility ratings with conservatives. Thus she has made herself a fair topic for discussion of her qualifications.
Are there baseless and insulting insinuations written about her that should be called out? Of course there are, much as there about many other politician/celebrities. Again, she gets more attention, good and bad, than most because she’s more popular. That’s the price of popularity, yet you dramatically treat it like it’s her unique cross to bear. She, and you, both need to grow a thicker skin if she’s going to run for the nomination. It will only get worse once she’s forced to come out of her cacoon and answer real questions in a debate format. That’s just a political fact. And it certainly goes without saying, nothing written about Palin even approaches the things I’ve read about Obama on FA and other conservative sites.
Onc other thing to keep in mind. You bring up unfortunate things written about Palin’s family, specifically her children. I completely agree that bringing children into anything is disgusting, particularly minors. If that has happened in the case of her young children, I condemn it. Unfortunately for the Palin children, they have their mother, and in the case of Bristol, herself, to blame for putting them in this situation. Palin, who likes to trump her family values, put her children on a TV reality show watched by millions. Bristol (who is 20 years old, by the way – not a child) put herself on one. They did it for attention, publicly and money. And to build the brand. The idea of no negative attention or press is not part of the bargain (except in the case of FOX).
Palin knowingly put her children into this situation for her own financial and political benefit. Unless she’s stupefying naïve to expect otherwise, they are now paying an ugly price for her celebrity ambition.
Tom, what a jerk you are. Obviously you live in the left wing blogs and should go back there. No one deserves the treatment that Palin and her family received from the MSM. The hate spewed by them is deplorable. How can you tell anyone that this treatment is normal or should be expected. What a DK you are!!
Worse than saying someone isn’t even a citizen of the country he calls home, or must be a Muslim because of his name, or hates the race of his own mother? Worse than that? Give me a break. There are things written by morons about all politicians and celebrities (and Palin is both). I deplore it all, because it leads away from real discussion, but it happens to all sides, not just yours, Mr. Common Sense. If you’re going to whine about it, whine about it for everyone.
Oh puleeeze, Tom. Are you equating to questioning Obama’s birth (an issue he keeps on the burner himself by his refusal to deal with it head on), or his Muslim roots with the personal family slander of the Palins that has been waged by the lib/progs and their puppet media? Have you forgotten what went down? i.e. real parentage of babies in the Palin family, accusations of affairs, etal? Get serious…..
Then, perhaps, you need another perspective check when you go back over the last administration and the personal dirt (without founding) and accusations your party threw then about the POTUS.
Get off your high horse on this one. Both parties can get slime’y, for sure. But your lib/prog buddies have the PhD in slime.
Tom, if you thought I was whining, you are even more idiotic than I thought. Sorry dude, but the whineing is on your side of this discussion.
Are you calling me an idiot now, Sir, for stating my opinion? You have quite a strange way of expressing your displeasure with the coarseness of our political dialogue.
The questions surrounding Obama is solely from every day American citizens whereas Palin is being drug through the mud via the liberal media for millions to see. It fuels the hate for her and her family. Obama’s kids are not experiencing a single bit of the hassle the Palin kids are. Big difference. Palin cannot do alot about the hate but Obama could diffuse the questions surrounding him by unsealing his medical, school, work and birth records. Usually when people go to great lengths to hide something, there is something worth hiding.
The point of my comment, clearly lost in the Palin Victim Syndrome reaction, was very much your first sentence above. It’s the expectation that Palin should be above that which comes with political and entertainment celebrity that I find so laughable. Your second sentence is not provable, and moreover it’s that brand of simplistic generalizing about groups I didn’t think you subscribed to, based upon your moralizing on other threads.
Good grief Tom, Palin began getting trashed as soon as McCain named her his VP nominee, dropping reporters all over Alaska, filing frivolous lawsuits, worrying about her friggin’ wardrobe. If they were so dang worried about her policies they wouldn’t have been worrying about THAT. So according to your rationale, Obama’s girls should be allowed to be trashed as well because after all, Obama and Michelle put them in this situation by running for President. LOL…
As for debate, she had one with Joe Biden and cleaned his clock.
He hasn’t put his kids on a reality TV show, has he? That is a HUGE difference that everyone seems to ignore around here. She turned her children into celebrities when she put them on a TV show that millions of people watched (and which she was paid millions to do). Again, I am not defending anything written about her children, but to think she isn’t partially responsible for putting them in that position is ridiculous. That’s like sending your kids into a burning building and then using the defense that you didn’t start the fire. You can’t expect the same level of privacy from the press when you’re putting your entire familty out there for the world to see on national TV.
Stop Tom, Palin’s kids got hassled right out of the gate-even Trig before her show came on. Calling him retarded. Save it.
I seriously doubt they are up at night worrying too much about what some hateful, ignorant people are saying about them anyway.
wodiej, did you miss the part where i wrote:
if you want to argue about something i actually did write, fine, but right now you’re not arguing with me.
Tom, it is clear that you are most likely a paid operative of the left who trolls her looking for individuals to put on some kind of list for nefarious purposes. In rebuttal to your main comment I list several inaccuracies and untruths. First, Sarah Palin is not a “retired” politician. Granted she holds no public office until she is inaugurated President of the United States on 01/20/2013. But she is an ACTIVE political figure (which by definition makes her a politician) who campaigned relentlessly for conservatives who deserved to be elected. She endorsed many who probably would not have won with our her support. Second, you say nothing that has been said and written about her or her family approached the severity of the things said about Barack Hussein Obama. Has anyone said anything negative about Mr and Mrs Obamas’ children? such as;” Sarah did not have that baby Trig, It was her daughter Bristols baby!” Or heres a quote I have heard at cocktail parties; “she should have killed that baby! why didn’t she get an abortion!”
The late night comics are far, far worse calling her baby “retarded” while making fun of Trig and saying the most dispicable things I have ever heard regarding another living human being.
And your quote Tom;
“Are there baseless and insulting insinuations written about her that should be called out? Of course there are”
Well Tom, have YOU ever “called out” some of these baseless and insulting insinuations on the left wing sites you reside in?…..Crickets. Can you name some of them here even? We won’t tell! Here is another of your quotes Tom.
‘”One other thing to keep in mind. You bring up unfortunate things written about Palin’s family, specifically her children. I completely agree that bringing children into anything is disgusting, particularly minors. If that has happened in the case of her young children, I condemn it.”
“IF THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE CASE OF HER YOUNG CHILDREN”??
Of course it has, and you know it TOM! Have you ever heard of David Letterman Tom? EG; Letterman joking about Alex Rodriguez Committing stautory rape with a !4 year old (Willow Palin) while the Palins attended a NY Yankees game in NYC. Ring a bell Tom? Or a well known Comic named CK whose “jokes” about the Palin children I will not even repeat they are so disgusting. Finally “blaming” the Palins for “putting” their children on a reality tv show, (TLC channel is like the Osbornes? I don’t think so.) makes it “OK” to attack the kids?
99% of all of these attacks on the Palins and their kids began WHEN SHE WAS A CANDIDATE FOR VP of THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA, Not when she became a member of FOX News or was on TLC. Tom, you blame Sarah Palin for the dispicable personal invectives and AD-Hominem attacks hurled at her and her children, but look in the mirror Tom, and look who you are standing with and there you see who is to blame for the disgusting filthy and dispicable attacks on the Palin Children.
{P.S.} Late Breaking… Sandra Bernhardt on the Joy Behar show calling Bristol a Whore twice a couple of days ago…on daytime national TV! Is that “OK” Tom because Bristol has a mother named Sarah Palin and she did the show that she was asked to do? What’s up Tom?
Let’s trip down memory lane.
How about Journolist? Forget about that little “media” cabal already?
Much, much more:
http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/22/when-mccain-picked-palin-liberal-journalists-coordinated-the-best-line-of-attack/#ixzz16XGzfcjZ
Andrew Sullivan/Atlantic wrote page after page denying baby Trig was Sarah Palin’s baby. The New York Times published 3 articles about 17 year old Bristol Palin’s pregnancy on September 2, 2008, yep, 3 articles in one day.
From Mary Mitchell’s Sarah Palin Should Be the Laughing Stock to All Feminists Chicago Sun-Times article:
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/michael-m-bates/2008/09/13/chgo-sun-times-sarah-palin-makes-me-sick#ixzz16XJf7ZlF
US Weekly magazine cover shots of the Obamas vs Sarah Palin:
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/03/two-covers-one-conclusion/
More about the Palin cover:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/512gfsvi.asp
BTW, just how much investigating did the media do while PRESIDENTIAL candidate John Edwards was off making babies while his wife was stricken with cancer?
Another thing, the Obamas did plenty of trotting the daughters out while campaigning, they were frequently on campaign stops, and magazine covers. One journalist filmed and wrote about one of the birthday parties.
I don’t think we ever got the complete, lengthy list of all the journalists that belonged to Journolist, but one has to wonder how many of the bitter liberal clingers aka the press, were involved in the sabotage of Palin.
Ha! Paranoid much? Put your mind at rest. i have no affiliation with any political group, and i come here in peace to debate with people whom I hold in high regard.
I’ve never read any of your quotes anywhere other then here, franky. I don’t reside at any sites either. For the record, the “left’ sites I frequent have never written anything like that, to my knowledge. You really think The New Yorker was calling for Trig’s abortion? Sorry, I can’t help you.
You consider him ‘media’? I thought he was a comedian.
I don’t think it’s nice, no, but Bristol Palin is a 20 year old adult who used the fact that she “has a mother named Sarah Palin” to enter a popular dancing competition at her own risk. She wasn’t forced onto the show. She is not a child and I don’t have much sympathy for any outcome of her trying to leverage her “star” power.
Wow Tom. Palin makes a misstatement and immediately corrects it. BHO makes a misstatement and it is ignored. Similar types of misstatements.
Now why would that be?
When the press starts treating Ms Palin the way it treats Mr Obama, then you’d have a fair basis to criticize. Until then, it gets real damn hard to justify the differential treatment.
Get real Tom. David Letterman is one of YOUR GUYS! You own him! He is NOT media?? The only Left wing media ANYONE watches now ARE the comedians… Who watches MSNBC or CNN?? And regarding the “Left” sites you frequent, What are the comments like? no dispicable trash talk and personal invective regarding tha Palins there? Have you EVER commented on one of those sites “calling out” this kind of garbage?? ROFLMAO! Gimme a break Tom, you OWN the garbage they spew hourly as they are your Like minded thinkers! So, you don’t think it is NICE to call Bristol a Whore on national TV but you “don’t have much sympathy” for her…. Than says it all. you are OK with that kind of talk about WOMEN. “Whore” is a SLUR against WOMEN TOM, equally as bad as racial slurs! you OK with that??
@Tom:
I’d like for you to specify precisely which part of Mata’s post you are referring to here:
Can you prove that, John? You honestly think that if President Obama called South Korea “North Korea” it would have been ignored? Seems, given the enormous stakes, unlikely to me. I can buy that it was an honest slip-up, but she is possibly the Republican nominee in two years for President. I think therefore she will and should be held to a very high, but fair, standard. Let’s also remember, she gets to take unlimited pop shots at the POTUS, whereas he can’t respond in kind. If she leaves politics and retires from public life, then she should be left alone, but she’s hardly done either. Let’s stop the whining until that happens. It’s really pretty pathetic.
Aye,
I was referring to the second sentence i quoted (sorry if that caused confusion):
Facts, or sand, Aye?
Tom, Aye is correct. I was the one who said your lib/prog buddies have the phD in slime. And the facts are quite evident in the personal scandal campaign they waged against Palin, and her family, when she was nominated for veep. If you choose to close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears to that proof, not much we can do about it, eh?
And oh yes… INRE your snide “moralizing” comment – the ones doing that were doing the personal sliming were the lib/progs… Daily KOs, Huffpo, MSNBC etal. Again, not a generalization. Those specific people who spoke their personal ills and slung the mud were exactly that… lib/progs. Therefore, I was not generalizing. I was describing the politics of those who were assailing the Palin family, utilizing their PhDs in slime.
Tom, I sincerely apologize to you for my strong words. I forgot your a whineing liberal who only knows how to disperse these words and if someone actually uses them on you then your poor pitful little excuse of a person just can’t handle it.
Kind of like you can dish it our but you can’t take it. I know you can’t help it, it’s the way you have been raised. If you would like to try acting your age I suggest you start with Kindergarten and try not to turn in anyone who just disagrees with you, they are not bullies but rather intelligent.
Why don’t you go to one and find out for yourself? It’s just a click away. You might find, like I have coming here, that those people you think you despise aren’t as cartoonish as you think. But you’ll probably also be dumbfounded by the groupthink. You won’t find me there, by the way. i don’t need constant reinforcement to believe what i believe. Based on your posts, I gotta say, you might wanna just stay here, champ.
Not a big deal, Common Sense. I appreciate your apology. We all make mistakes.
@Tom:
Here we have an example of the tried and true, childish, liberal tactic…attempting to distort a very clear message.
Apparently Tom hasn’t read through Curt’s thread, The Same Media That Ignored Obama’s Gaffes Finds Palin’s Gaffes Newsworthy where Curt posted excerpts of Sarah Palins Facebook page Thanksgiving message that links to Obama’s gaffes:
My fellow Americans in all 57 states, the time has changed for come. With our country founded more than 20 centuries ago, we have much to celebrate – from the FBI’s 100 days to the reforms that bring greater inefficiencies to our health care system. We know that countries like Europe are willing to stand with us in our fight to halt the rise of privacy, and Israel is a strong friend of Israel’s. And let’s face it, everybody knows that it makes no sense that you send a kid to the emergency room for a treatable illness like asthma and they end up taking up a hospital bed. It costs, when, if you, they just gave, you gave them treatment early, and they got some treatment, and ah, a breathalyzer, or an inhalator. I mean, not a breathalyzer, ah, I don’t know what the term is in Austrian for that…
In the Politico article Curt links to, you will find examples of vile leftist commentary that more than supports Mata’s comment.
Scroll, enjoy:
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1110/Palin_mixes_up_her_Koreas.html
Exactly! They turn their noses up at someone who dares question their “intelligence” because maybe, just maybe, most of the country could care less about their ivy league schools and their indoctrination. This country has always cared more about men and women who will pull up their sleeves and get their hands dirty. Those who will go down and dig a ditch, build a mountain or blow a hole in that same mountain and build a tunnel through it.
And thats why the liberal pansy asses hate Sarah so much. She takes chances, her family takes chances. They do what they feel is right for their family and their country. Does she have ambition? Give me a break…of course she has ambition. Every human being has ambition and the will to succeed. Thats what makes our country so great. We never used to stifle that ambition. We would encourage it.
But with Socialists in office that encouragement is no where to be seen.
Sarah fights against that. And the left hates her for that. They need her to lose. Patriotism, love of country, pride, honor, loyalty, morality….this is what she and the rest of middle country fights for. And they hate us for that. (I’m not middle country but have the soul of one who should have….there are a few of us left on the coast, but we’re here.)
Mark my words, the left recognizes the danger of this strong woman and they will stop at nothing to destroy her, as they have tried to do with all those that came before her.
Missy….great find on that article from politico. Depicts the total bias in our MSM even more bluntly then my post did.
The propaganda media and the liberals still think that the way to defeat someone they don’t like is to tear them down in front of the public. It didn’t work with Joe The Plumber, Rush Limbaugh, or Fox News. Why do they think it will work on Palin?
All they are doing is making her more popular with conservatives and making her a lot of money. I don’t know if she intends to run for any office, but I get the feeling she is going to make as much money as she can for as long as she can.
So you’ve chosen… sand. No, i don’t think you can prove that other Presidential or VP candidates have not suffered political slander, which would be the only cogent argument against what I have written. And this, of course, would require you to first acknowledge what I actually wrote, rather than conveniently ignoring it and reframing my argument as a referendum upon our respective opinions of the press treatment of Ms. Palin. Of that I can only say, bravo Ms. Palin, for having overwhelmingly conquering so many forms of media: the internet, network and cable TV, the blogsosphere, while still maintaining an unlikely veneer of victimhood.
Tom,
on her TBS reality show
Actually, the show is on TLC. What kind of completely moronic, inbred, reprobate, mouth-breathing imbecile are you? Are you really such a clueless oxygen thief? The kind of person who passes gas simply to get a whiff of their own self proclaimed superiority? Truly, have you no sense of decency, propriety, or common sense? What should we expect next, that you’ll come out in favour of eating animals only after sexually molesting them?
Now, am I being fair to you over an obviously small error? Well, no, I’m not. Or rather, I’m being as fair to you as the majority of the MSM has been to the Palin family. If you have a problem with it, go talk to Andrew Sullivan about Trig.
Everyone, including Sarah Palin has been nice here by not bringing up then candidate Obama when he was interviewed by George Stepanopolous. Obama; “My Muslim faith” Then he was “corrected” by George Step; “You mean your Christian faith”
Tom, do you get paid by the hour or by how many posts you make and the responses you get?
TOM you said SARAH PALIN maintain a VENEER OF VICTIMHOOD,
ARE YOU SERIOUS ON THAT? SHE IS A FIGHTER AND NEVER SHOWED VICTIM HOOD ON HER VENEER, THAT’S MORE FROM YOUR SIDE OF THE CON, WE CONSTANTLY HEAR OF IT,
THEY HAVE EXTENDED THEIR STAYED AND SHOULD ALL TAKE A LONG VACATION,
AND STAY OUT,IF IT’S ONLY TO SAVE THE TAXPAYER MONEY,TO PAY THEIR SALARY,
To do a job tha any robot can do , that’s where the restraint of spending should start with
to show from the top the absence of even a gap in their system, Nobody would notice that they all went away,that is how important they all are.
Obviously, Sarah Palin is seeking a lot of attention from the very media that she castigates. She is always giving interviews, commenting on subjects (like the North Korean shelling of South Korea), now has a second (or is it third?) book out and promoting it, capping it all off with a new reality TV show. So what is the complaint here: that the liberal media pays too much attention to her? Well what would you cons have them do?
Or is the criticism a bit more “pointed”? Glenn Beck, Hugh Hewitt and Michael Medved ALL contended the liberal media was paying so much attention to the birthers because they make conservatives look bad. Are you cons complaining about “the liberal obsession with Sarah Palin” because she is getting too much attention and making cons look bad?
What precisely is the beef? After all, the last election cycle showed that she is probably the biggest name and the leader of the conservative grass roots. So how, exactly, would you cons have the liberal media cover her? If she says something “interesting”, should the media ignore it, or report it as the communication of her ideas? And if they did ignore something “interesting” that she said, wouldn’t that be patronizing and irresponsible? I think it would be.
Finally, remember one thing: the liberals DESPISE Sarah Palin because she just doesn’t seem to be very smart. But NO ONE underestimates her ability to rally a segment of the electorate, or her ability under certain circumstances to get the GOP nomination in 2012. That may be your problem, not theirs.
blogforce —
Oh, come on! The “my Muslim faith” comment, again?! You KNOW that Obama’s sentence was referring to “my Muslim faith” the same way Bill Clinton would have referred to “my list of murder victims”. But don’t remove context and create a different meaning to the words he spoke:
STEPHANOPOULOS: You mention your Christian faith. Yesterday you took off after the Republicans for suggesting you have Muslim connections. Just a few minutes ago, Rick Davis, John McCain’s campaign manager, said they’ve never done that. This is a false and cynical attempt to play victim.
OBAMA: You know what? I mean, these guys love to throw a rock and hide their hand. The…
STEPHANOPOULOS: The McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections.
OBAMA: No, no, no. But the — I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks–
STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said that’s wrong.
OBAMA: Now, well, look. Listen. You and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said that’s off limits. And–
STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said the same thing about questioning your faith.
OBAMA: And what was the first thing the McCain?s campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin.
Let’s not play games. What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith. And you’re absolutely right that that has not come–
STEPHANOPOULOS: Christian faith.
OBAMA: — my Christian faith. Well, what I’m saying is that he hasn’t suggested–
STEPHANOPOULOS: Has connections, right.
OBAMA: — that I’m a Muslim. And I think that his campaign’s upper echelons have not, either.
* * * * *
It was not an admission by Obama that he is a Muslim (he obviously is not) as wacko cons claim, nor would Clinton referring to “my hit list” be an admission that Clinton murdered several people as wacko cons claimed (such as, his secretary’s brother, Ron Brown, drug dealer Barry Seal, Vince Foster, the young people murdered in the Georgetown Starbuck’s massacre, etc.) It was, rather, a recitation of one of the kinds of stupid allegations that wacko cons make against Dem presidents after the GOP gets bushwacked in a presidential election.
Let’s catalog a few claims I have read here at Flopping Aces about Obama:
Obama is a Muslim, a terrorist, a friend of terrorists, a Socialist, a Communist, a racist, anti-White, misogynistic, the most pro-abortion president ever, establishing concentration camps, preparing to take all the guns, preparing to reinstate the fairness doctrine, trying to ruin the economy, trying to destroy America, reforming health care system as a form of slave reparations, he is more interested in basketball than unemployment numbers, a snob, elitist, dumb, an affirmative action president, a wasteful spender, a tax raiser, who owes his job to “white guilt” and/or ACORN committing widespread multi-state voter fraud, all this so that Obama can indoctrinate kids like Kim Jung Il.
One con “critic” claimed Obama is also . . . a bad dresser. Morbidly obese GOPer con leader Rush Limbaugh claims Obama is trying to “force” kids to eat healthy food and “forcing” schools to stop serving high fat, , high sugar, high sodium processed foods . . . which to Rush, I guess, is a bad thing.
Cons have made so many allegations against Obama it is hard to sort them out. One guy here claimed Obama was trying to ruin the health insurance companies; but the same guy complained about the insurance mandates (which insurance companies love) which would “force” upon insurance companies young and healthy customers . . . you know, the people who rarely use health care. Obama is portrayed as an evil. scheming, omni-present, dumb and disengaged president. It is fascinating and kinda fun for me to read this stuff because it shows how disconnected you cons are from reality. But let’s not forget the “Obama admitted he is a Muslim” claim for what it is: just another unpatriotic effort to delegitimize the duly elected president of our country.
Tom, Tom… usually you are a worthy left leaning opponent in debate here. But speaking of “veneer of victimhood”, let’s get a few things straight.
You said:
… and then also said
Then you state that the GOP has been as slime’y in their campaign assaults as the lib/progs at Huffpo, DailyKOs, MSNBC, Mudflats, etal were on Palin *and* her family.
Well, first of all, the onus is now on you. We’ve already established the facts – the lows the lib/prog mouthpieces went to when attacking Trig and Bristol during the 2008 campaign. None of whom were speaking at political rallies (ala Cindy McCain or Michelle Obama). We could also add the treatment of Bush as POTUS for the last four years of his terms. If you’d like to contest the equality of GOP PhDs in slime, why don’t you point out a GOP & helpful media campaign waged on the families, their personal lives and traits, of a Dem candidate? Our side has laid out our case. We’re still waiting for yours. So far, your lib/prog buddies have the prize.
We’re not talking about the candidate themselves, as politics has been dirty long before many of us were born. We are talking about assaulting the candidacy by attacking the family. There’s your guidelines.
I believe it’s already been pointed out to you that the Palin Alaska “reality show”, which you can’t equate in content to most of the other trash reality shows… as well as Bristol’s invitation from DWTS… was all post the 2008 election. But what was amazing was to see you write… If that has happened in the case of her young children, I condemn it.”
*If* that has happened?? Well, where ya been, bucko? Did you lose months of your life just prior to the Nov 2008 election?
I don’t think there is any question that politics and politicians, as well as their strategists, are really scraping the bottom of the barrel… in both parties. However none has sunk as low as the left did with Palin and her family… and continue to do so at every opportunity.
Frankly, I find it hilarious to watch most foam at the mouth whenever Palin’s name is mentioned. But I’m sure not going to give the left talking heads, media, bloggers and pols a pass on their treatment of the Palin family, as a whole. And neither should you.
@Billy Bob, I don’t deny that I read much about Obama on this site that is over the top. It just becomes more ironic – or would that be moronic – listening to you… with your own lack of credibitility… lecturing anyone on doing so. 🙄
Mata —
Regarding “over the top” commentary, you wrote the following:
Nice attempt at changing the subject. I am not lecturing anyone here about their commentary; I say “keep it up” because it only serves to marginalize the right. My only point is to highlight the mendacity of posters claiming Obama said or did something that he didn’t do . . . like spending $200 million per day on the India trip, the previous con obsession before the latest “TSA rape squad” complaints.
And I note that you don’t actually quote me saying anything “over the top.” You just throw it out there as if the allegation of equivalence is sufficient to prove the point.
Look, I get it: this is a GOPer con blog. People here say nutty things all the time and are okey doked because they are singing the party line, saying what you all already believe. Fine. But my point is simple: you risk becoming the right wing equivalent of Code Pink. All the obsessive and hate-filled commentary about the president, the conspiracy theories, etc. Now the whining that Sarah Palin, someone who CRAVES the limelight, is being treated unfairly by the same media that reports on every blurb, every tweet, every comment she makes? Please . . . .
I note no one has answered my question:
Are cons upset about the reporting about Palin because she is becoming the less-than-brilliant face of the GOP at the expense of more worthy candidates (like the man I fear, Mitch Daniels)? Or are you upset because you REALLY think she is being treated unfairly?
Mata, would you want her to head the GOP ticket in 2012? Would you?
I will repeat what I said before — if she really wanted to be president, Palin would have done herself a lot of good by taking the last year and a half to do some reading and studying at a think-tank, then come out with some cogent formalized policy proposals. Instead, she flits from thing to thing — a book, then speeches, then a TV show, then another book, then another TV show. This is not the mark of a serious person; this is what a celebrity does. She does not appear to want to be measured against Mitch Daniels and Tim Pawlenty; rather, she is bucking for a Q rating competitive with Jay Z or Kim Kardashian. This is fine, but if you chose to live the life of a celebrity, don’t be surprised if you are treated like a celebrity. Lindsay Lohan can attest to that.
BRob, we are not opposed to the amount of media attention Palin gets-we have an issue with the lack of truthfulness and the cruelty of it. Furthermore, there are plenty of other political people who have tv shows, give speeches and are otherwise very openly engaged in current events that do not get NEAR the scrutiny that Sarah Palin does. If you have not grasped that yet from all the posts here then you are purposely trying to talk over our complaint or you just aren’t very bright.
B-Rob; you need many words,to say a plain sentence,
TALLGRASS said on one of his comment what CHIEF GEORGE, SAID,
IT DOES’NT TAKE TO MANY WORDS TO TELL THE TRUTH,
THAT’S A WISE MAN, IS IN HE,
The links and quotes I see above that can be construed as ‘attacks’ on Trig and Bristol are from David Letterman, a talk show host; Andrew Sullivan, a blogger who self-identifies as a conservative; and an op-ed columnist from the Chicago Sun-Times. If the NYTs published articles about Bristol’s pregnancy as news, I don’t have a problem with that. She’s the daughter of the VP candidate, so it is news if she becomes pregnant. If they published “attacks” on her, I would have to see the articles.
In an election that certainly generated hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of pages of press, I see isolated examples of bad behavior that have been widely condemned, even on the left. It’s interesting to note that NOW reminds us how a young 13 year old Chelsea Clinton was called “the white house dog” by Rush Limbaugh. Not to be outdone, sitting Republican US Senator John McCain also told a tasteless and cruel joke about Chelsea. Where was the Right to defend Chelsea, Mata? You still convinced this is a Lib/Prog thing? All you’ve established is that isolated incidents of boorish behavior aimed at young girls are not the sole provenance of the Republican party and their shills. But as far as a pattern of systematic behavior aimed at the Palins, I don’t see that you’ve proven that at all.
Now, Mata, when you write that these people are “lib/prog mouthpieces” that sounds awfully like you’re stating that the examples cited above were produced at the behest of the Democratic Party or the Obama campaign. That’s a pretty serious charge to make without any factual backup. How did you arrive at the conclusion that David Letterman was the ‘mouthpiece’ of any liberal or progressive group or figure?
Those aren’t my guidelines. That’s your guidelines. I was, and am still trying, to talk about Sarah Palin. I put the issue of her children to bed several times already, only to see it pop up time and again. It leads me to wonder if anyone is willing to address my actual argument. Here it is again, if you’d care to chime in: Sarah Palin has millions of followers on Twitter and Facebook, with whom she regularly communicates with on political issues, as well as appearing on Fox News as a pundit. Why, therefore, when she’s clearly courting media attention, and when she’s trying to affect political discourse and the outcome of elections themselves, should she be exempt from criticism from either the media or the Left?
Oh goody…Tom is falling back on something that happened in 1992. 1992….to support his argument.
I wonder, Tom, what you think of the vile things that were written about the Bush daughters? Were you busy taking issue with those things too? Links please.
Exit question: What version of the “Chelsea is a dog” story does NOW tell?
Mata, missed this question:
Mata, where are you seeing that this is limited to incidents during the election? Curt’s original post cites Krauthammer complaining about liberals and the media’s behavior now, not just in 2008. And the Bernhard clip is about DWTS, I didn’t bring it up.
the “if” is because I have still not been presented with compelling evidence that the MSM has systematically attacked Sarah Palin’s children. That is your argument, but the examples cited above don’t fit into my conception of the MSM (Network news and big print papers), aside from the Chicago Sun-Times. From what I can tell from the link provided, that’s a columnist, not news reporting. As my friends on the Right like to remind me, opinion and news are two distinct domains within any news organization.
Aye, I didn’t think there was a statute of limitations on the despicability of making fun of the teenage girls, even the daughter of a public figure, even a ‘dimocrat’. Do you?
@Tom:
I’d love to see you answer the Exit Question posed to you in #47 because I can assure you that reality is not what you believe it to be.
Also, I see that you completely sidestepped the question I posed to you regarding the Bush twins. Too difficult? Or simply too pointed?
Aye, you are comically good at avoiding and then changing the subject. Like a good defense lawyer who knows his client is guilty, you’re not going to put him on the stand; you’re going to nibble around the edges, looking for a technicality to spring him. Of course what works in a courtroom won’t work here, because the avoidance is so transparent. But I’ll play along. So now, apparently, unless i can document an early 2000s example of my flying to the defense of the Bush daughters in print, everything I’ve written about Sarah Palin and the media is null and void. Interesting, if desperate, tactic. Alas, I’m going to guess that at least one member of the FA’s jury will rule in your favor.
@Tom:
You’re awfully good at dredging up the past comments of others in a desperate, but feeble, attempt to support your positions…yet you’re not so willing to dredge up your own comments to establish the consistency of your moralizing.
Why is that I wonder….
Of course the question I posed is not all that different from yours:
Oh well, since I’ve proven my point we can move on.
Now…please regale us with the “Chelsea is a dog” story as told by NOW.
Well, considering my postion is that neither side has a monopoly on bad behavior…
Why don’t you click on the link I’ve provided to see for yourself? And then you can trot out your version of the story (yes, of course I know you have a version). Yes, let’s get further and further away from the subject of my post. This is, per your stonewalling, obviously no longer about Sarah Palin.