Surprise Norway….not only is the Zero in Chief arrogant he is also protocol ignorant.
tfhr
15 years ago
I’m really surprised that our President seems to be willing to pass on another chance to bow and scrape in another country.
Missy
15 years ago
I read interesting commentary in the American Spectator yesterday. Seems as though the Constitutional scholar is quiet on what the Constitution says about accepting “any present, Emolument, Office or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or Foreign State.” while serving in office.
“…. while the punditocracy and the commentariat, the intelligentsia and the cognoscenti all searched for accomplishments to justify the award, only one kept her eye on the prize itself. That would be Claudia Monteverdi of Argentina, granddaughter of retired Senator Grigorio Monteverdi and herself a Congressional candidate. This former Miss Latin America is a long-time friend of this column and its de facto South American correspondent. Among other achievements, she has a thoroughgoing command of the U.S. Constitution and the Federalist Papers.
Immediately following the announcement, Claudia began to make the case that it was unconstitutional for Obama to accept the prize. Article I of the Constitution provides that “No person holding any office of Profit or Trust… shall, without the consent of Congress, accept any present, Emolument, Office or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or Foreign State.” The Nobel is a private fund, but the awardees are determined by members of the Norwegian Parliament.
In short, Claudia maintained, the government of Norway is slipping a big check to the President of the United States. Her case is bolstered, I might add, by the clear agenda the bribe is intended to encourage, i.e. the choosing in all instances of policies deemed peaceful, peaceable, peace-oriented and/or peace-inducing by the pacifist international left. Once again, those who admire this country from foreign shores have a truer sense of its founding vision than many of its own meandering children. ”
NOW HER CALL has found an echo in the person of Tad Armstrong of Edwardsville, Missouri. Mr. Armstrong is an attorney who founded the ELL (Earn it, Learn it, or Lose it) Constitution Clubs. In an op-ed piece in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch this weekend he confirmed the view that Nobel’s dynamite is blowing up the Constitution.
He adds a new wrinkle for folks who regard appeals to the Constitution as quaint and anachronistic. He cites a law passed by Congress in 1966, now numbered as Section 7342 of the U.S. Code, which declares that absent specific consent of Congress any gift or decoration received by a sitting President must be accepted on behalf of the United States and turned over to the Treasury.
Yes, indeed, the disposition of the prize money is not in the hands of President Obama, despite his magnanimous but vague assertion it will be forwarded to charitable causes. Our founders were concerned such gifts might serve as a means of influencing our leaders to make choices in the interest of other sovereigns.
Then again, perhaps all this is absurd. Who would be so overwrought as to suspect a President might be moved to accept European attitudes at the expense of American ones? That he might give more credence to conventional wisdom than to common sense? That he could be swayed by leftist banalities into abandoning an appreciation of American exceptionalism? That he could be moved to regurgitate the pap of Marxist professors in major addresses?
Who would be mean-spirited enough to imagine a President might be seduced into believing America guilty of torture? Of arrogance? Of overusing the resources of the world? Of damaging the physical planet by its consumption and industry? Of interfering into local affairs in South America and the Middle East? Of causing Iranian unrest by something the CIA did in the 1950s? Of causing Palestinians to bridle by favoring Israel overmuch?
The idea that giving an American President a few bucks could make him do and say such things is offensive. In point of actual fact, this goof was saying all those things without demanding anything more in return than flattery. So the Nobel is not a cause, but we are still in plenty of trouble. Please cry for me, Argentina.
Indeed, since the President has said he will donate the prize to charity it should be said that the $1.4 million is not HIS to give away – it belongs to the people of the United States. In addition, acceptance of the prize is unconstitutional – an award from a foreign body is clearly verboten in our Constitution.
And yes, he is an ASS!
jr1984
15 years ago
Thump thump; there goes the King and the Nobel committee under the Obama bus. Use and throw away.
Aleric
15 years ago
Why are these people surprised at how ignorant and uncaring PEBO is. He doesn’t give one iota about the prize only what he can gain from it by holding it up as a symbol to his administration being great. Protocal to him is having people tell him how great he is and then moving out of his way so he can talk to the infuencial people.
firefirefire
15 years ago
Not for the first time since this boob has taken the oath of office am I ashamed for my country.
ZippyTheWerewolf
15 years ago
The only thing this Obamination was groomed for was the delicate art of B.S. He doesn’t have the grooming or the class or the KNOWLEDGE to understand all that he is attempting to undertake. What he understands is that he is in office and believes he can do and say anything he darn well pleases and comment on everything, while the masses of ‘blinded by his light’ liberals follow him, like a cockroach into the trash. He isn’t a leader, he’s a mess. The more he talks and the more he steps into, the more truth about him comes to light.
No class bum.
Amen.
GuyFox
15 years ago
Maybe this will teach the Norwegians not to give a freaking president of the United States a Nobel prize, I imagine he has some things to do.
Though he should have at least eaten the lunch with the King.
EDIT:
@ Missy- Interesting thought, I hadn’t thought of it that way. Though it wouldn’t be the first time he, or other politicians Ignored the constitution.
I’m really surprised that our President seems to be willing to pass on another chance to bow and scrape in another country.
Let me clear that up for you. The Norwegians are WHITE people, living in a civilized, democratic society. Obama only bows and scrapes to despots running socialist/Marxist thugocracies. (The Emperor of Japan was an acceptable exception because it was a good chance to run down the U.S. for bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki.)
@Richard: Good point. Obama didn’t bow to Queen Elizabeth either…
Skookum
15 years ago
Homerun, Missy. I maintain that the bust of Churchill belonged to the people of the United States and was not his to send back to England. Even the smallest gifts to presidents while in office are stored in the Smithsonian. That is the law.
Taqiyyotomist
15 years ago
It only took thirteen comments for someone to state the absolute, unvarnished truth of the matter.
KUDOS, RICHARD.
I refuse to chalk this up to another (YET another) example of Obama’s ignorance of protocol.
I also refuse to chalk this up to another example of his arrogance, or even his propensity to “make mistakes”.
He did this on purpose – that is, with a clear reason – for the same reason he snubbed the Brits with his return of the bust of Churchill, the same reason he snubbed Japan with his abject, overt display of complete dishonor by changing all his scheduling at the last moments.
He bows and scrapes to those who have most hated America – dictators, communist regimes, and outright thug-ocracies – and snubs our allies and friends worldwide, in as overt and you-can’t-possibly-miss-this a way as possible. That is the simple fact. Not ignorance. Not pride.
Anyone who says these are “mistakes” and just examples of “ineptness” and “ignorance” is missing what he is trying ever-so-hard to make sure you DON’T miss. All those other distractions are just dishonest, rose-colored-glasses excuses and lies. Excuses for a man who hates and has always hated America, and who makes every effort to tell you this with each and every action and word. I’m done giving this man excuses. He’s a wicked man, plain and simple – and one who is not confused or ignorant about what he is doing.
Thanks Skookum, been so busy shoveling the global warming off my drive and deck the last two days, it’s hard to keep up.
I think the $1.4 mil should go directly to the treasury, the medal to the Smithsonian and give Obama a nice plastic replica as a keepsake, a fake award for something he didn’t earn.
I understand that when Dr. Utopia declined to attend the Nobel concert today, those crafty Norwegians replaced him with a cardboard cut out. Do you think we could get them to keep him and send us that cut out? It probably would do a better job and show more class. . .
Missy
15 years ago
Wow, what a week. Made a magazine cover with Tiger Woods, finally got his hands on that Nobel, Michelle is one of Barbara Walter’s most fascinating people and now this:
On another note, I heard today that President and Michelle Obama were on their hotel balcony as a parade of Norweigans walked by with torches and candles. It was mentioned that the President was in tux, (understandable) but Michelle was dressed like nobility. I’d love to see the pix if anyone finds them. I need a laugh.
*Note to Wordsmith – yes, this is a completely acceptable event to hold a caption-this-athon on the First Lady. No kiddies involved. Carry on 😉
Yep, they were right. She’s just missing the crown. Why doesn’t she just put one on. The media wouldn’t say anything, except start calling her Your Royal Highness.
SoCal Chris
15 years ago
Maybe Obama snubbed them because he’s actually embarrassed to recieve the award? Nah, I forgot, he snubs our allies but has plenty of time for dictators.
Mamba1-0
15 years ago
Obama is just dirt-common trash who has absolutely no idea how to act like an adult in polite society – much less how to pretend to be a president.
He expects the Norwegians – and everyone else, it seems – to understand that he is just too important to observe the normal amenities; and their schedule and traditions just don’t matter in the face of *his* priorities.
After all, he’s just treating them like Americans.
The michelle, it goes without saying, is just as crude, just as tacky, just as dirt-common.
Ohh, Oh, they must have forgotten to pack the Marie Antoinette wig. Bo is probably full speed, four on the floor ripping through the WH corridors with it as we speak with grandma. the girls and Secret Service in hot pursuit! Oh, dear.
“The Iraq war greatly damaged the West’s relationship with the Muslim world and it still hasn’t been prepared(sic) today.
The Muslim world is dreck! What part of saving a people from a ruthless dictator don’t they like? What part of ‘most of the casualties were caused by Muslim(s) terrorists (redundant)’ don’t those demented scum understand?
“The anti-war stance of Chirac, Putin and Schröder wasn’t effective at the time. It seemed hopeless. It was extremely risky. But the trio was, in hindsight, correct nonetheless.”
NO THEY WEREN’T! The Euroweenies are as bat excrement clueless as the &$#%* Muslims!
ARRRRRGH!
//RANT=OFF// (for now)
B-Rob
15 years ago
@ Mamba —
“Obama is just dirt-common trash who has absolutely no idea how to act like an adult in polite society – much less how to pretend to be a president . . . michelle, it goes without saying, is just as crude, just as tacky, just as dirt-common.”
You wingnuts need to get your stories straight. Either Obama is an effete Ivy League educated elitist, or he is dirt-common trash. He can’t be both, morons! But here is a hint: when a guy with no inherited money makes it to the pinnacle of his field (law), then is elected president with more votes than any candidate, and the second largest vote margin ever, it is quite unlikely that your “snobbish oaf” opinions are shared by many people.
The real problem for you cons — you have a lot of inexplicable personal hatred for the Obamas . . . but the American people simply don’t share it with you. They are very well liked by the American people. Witness how many copies are sold when they are put on the cover of a magazine . . . especially Michelle. Obviously, the voters in “real America” don’t think he is an effete snob, or that he is “dirt-common trash” . . . otherwise, he would not have been elected with a near 10 million vote margin, would he? Yep, the American people really like the Obamas and think they are good ambassadors for the US on many levels . . . and that probably kills you people.
The fact that you are so angry, and it is not shared by “real Americans,” says more about you folks than it says about the voters or the Obamas. And you may think you are enlightened and in tune to things that the majority of people just don’t understand, hence your hatred; but we “real Americans” think you cons are just nuts and need psychiatric help.
What is it that you think I need “clearing up” on, Richard?
Mine was a comment critical of Obama’s foreign policy and public behavior, not a request for “help”, as you seem to think. The next time you decide to make a comment here about something you deem worthy, don’t use my remarks to step off on some tangent that involves your perception about another person’s view of race.
I would have let your snarky style, ie, the “clearing up” and “hope that helps” ride without comment but when you throw in something like “The Norwegians are WHITE people, living in a civilized, democratic society”, you can just leave me the f__k out.
We can probably agree on many of the multitude of negative qualities displayed by Barack Obama. I honestly cannot think of a good thing to say about the man at this particular moment, other than he’s done a good job taking care of his immediate family. But if you want to ascribe some sort of racist bent to the man, please don’t use my comments as your stepping stone. I like Flopping Aces because the people that post here are typically well informed and while they voice their opinions with great conviction, they seldom assign the worst without having solid ground to stand on before doing so. Make your argument and post it wherever you want but don’t link me to it unless you have proof.
That’s right, come here and tell us that we need psychiatric help because we don’t like Obama’s behavior or policies and then describe us as “nuts” and “angry”. Very civil. Very balanced.
There’s a lot not to like about the President and limiting it to his lack of grounding in a life common to many Americans would give short shrift to the his many public gaffs and policy errors made since the election. We know he has academic credentials and so did John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, but let’s face it, Obama’s ability to speak well from behind a teleprompter is not a measure of intellect. We eventually learned that elitist John Kerry, the much vaunted public speaker and man of international intrigue, had a GPA was lower than that of George W. Bush. I don’t believe GPAs are the best measure of true intellect but considering much has been made of Obama’s Harvard credentials, it is very surprising that he would want to prevent the release of details regarding his performance there. Kind of makes you wonder why we’ve never been treated to the wonder of Obama’s transcripts. You’d think he’d be so proud of it that he’d have it on the wall right next to his Nobel Prize.
You brag about elections and the media adulation of their celebrated choice for President. Could you have picked a pond with thinner ice to cross? For all of the stupidity wrongly attributed to Bush, he managed to defeat John Kerry. Must have been those “unreal Americans” that voted for him, huh? Bush also beat the other prime example of Nobel Prize worthlessness, Al Gore. Please don’t tell me you’re still counting chads or still circulating that petition to do away with the Electoral College.
Paris Hilton and Tiger Woods are on the cover of a lot of magazines these days. I don’t think that translates into “the real America” having some sort of approval for their behavior or ideas. Above all, when you start to believe that the media is a reflection of “real America” rather than a spectacle or often times an agenda driven element of liberal political thought, you can consider yourself free of any shred of objectivity.
There is a reason that Obama’s popularity is at it’s lowest point right now but you’d have to tear yourself away from Vanity Fair to find out. “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12. Just 36% now believe that the president is doing a good or an excellent job handling the economy while 45% rate his performance in this area as poor. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 52% give the President poor marks when it comes to the economy.” Put down your Newsweak with the glossy pictures of Obama wading out of the surf, and give this a look:
Next ask yourself if Scott Rasmussen, president of an independent polling company only calls angry and insane people to conduct his surveys. What do you think?
B-rob just doesn’t get that we’re not that into him I’m afraid. As tfhr points out, there’s a lot not to like but the Kool Aid Kids are welcome to follow him down the drain if they like 🙂
Taqiyyotomist
15 years ago
B-Rob
A similar dichotomy existed during the years of “Bushitler”, if you can recall. He was both a bumbling chimp idiot, and at the same time, an evil genius who took down the WTC and kept it all hush-hush in the leakiest city in the nation. He singlehandedly silenced dissent while at the same time millions took to the streets “spontaneously” and shouted for eight years that he was silencing them. This evil monster was all about the dissent-silencing and the Nazi imagery at the anti-America-winning-a-war-which-was-forced-on-her rallies attested to this widely-held and insane belief. (And they were ALL funded entirely and directed and organized by W.W.P. and other Soros organizations, then called “grass roots”, thus destroying another english phrase and rendering it meaningless.) This Nazi Bushitler was shutting down ALL dissent and trampling on the rights of all dissenters while at the same time Mother Cindy Sheehan set up camp a few feet from this Hitler’s FRONT YARD AT HOME, and was allowed to continue unfettered.
Barack Obama did not make it to the “top of his field” through his own efforts, and that is readily apparant. This man was made by others, from the minute he was conceived, and perhaps even prior. He has no real achievments in the field of law, other than the Cloward-Piven takedown of the mortgage industry. Obama and ACORN and hundreds of thousands of their “organized” shook down the banks, one by one, with all the standard Alinsky tactics of both creating the sores, then “rubbing raw the sores of discontent” which they had created, and then using the anger of the “organized” to force banks to lend to people with no means (or even desire) to pay these loans back. That is all Obama accomplished, and he didn’t do it to “help the poor”, he did it to take down Fannie and Freddie and force the government to take over the industry entirely. The poor, as always with this crowd, were merely tools to a greater end.
Obama has never made a dollar in his life through honest work. He was “granted”, “gifted”, and outright GIVEN, all that he ever had materially, by other communists, agitators, and organizations dedicated to taking this country and giving it the USSR workover. Every dime was given to him by millionaires and shakedown artists whose goal was what we have now, a Fellow Traveller in the White House. He was a priveleged rich kid from the minute he “popped out his momma”.
Regarding the standard “people who disagree with me need psychiatric help”…you may just get your wish, if the current trend toward outright fascism continues. Lock ’em all up, those who disagree, those who dissent. Pink-slip ’em. Put them on psych drugs and prevent them from ever speaking again, or participating in the electoral processes of this Republic. That’s what you want, is it not?
The real mental disorder is Liberalism, BUT even I would not recommend “psychiatric help”. Most of the people in that twisted, moonbat-ized field would only reinforce the erroneous thinking.
Education is all that is needed, and maybe a dose of cold Communist reality: bread lines, work camps, big holes in the ground with piles of State-murdered bodies in them, piles of human skulls that were once living, breathing, loving people that YOU KNEW. You know, all the requisite trappings of every single communist regime that has ever foisted itself on an unwilling populace, in all of human history. Who knows, maybe your guy will beat Mao’s gold standard of killing 70+ million of his people? He sure has enough supporters who think Mao was a Great Man.
A sweet aroma…..with a subtle hint of cinnamony smoothness….
Oh, how I love the scent of skooled moonbat on a crisp December morning.
Taqiyyotomist
15 years ago
“You wingnuts…”
“…you cons…”
“He can’t be both, morons!”
“…that probably kills you people.”
“…we ‘real Americans’ think you cons are just nuts and need psychiatric help.”
vs., in same post:
“…you have a lot of inexplicable personal hatred…”
“The fact that you are so angry…”
Is it us, with the anger and the hatred? Is it really, B-Rob?
I’ve read the rantings of seriously crazy people, case studies, writings by people on LSD, etc.
You display some common traits in your writing.
Is “conservatives” too hard to type? Or is it an ingrained inability to actually say the word, so that you have to use what you deem a perjorative, “cons”? Go read Huffpo (as I’m sure you do), and see that pattern repeated in almost every comment. Crazy people who are full of abject hatred can’t type actual english words when referring to the objects of their hatred. It is as if they possess some voodoo power, or as if actually referring to a Republican as a Republican lends them unearned credibility, and so they have to say “repug” and “repuke”. “bushies” instead of “Bush supporters”, “Shrub”, “Bushitler”, etc.
I see this behavior on the right as well in discussion forums, though not nearly as pervasive as on the left. Some people on both sides can actually debate a topic that they hold dear, or are passionate about, WITHOUT THIS COMPULSION TO MAKE UP NEW WORDS! Imagine that!
Yes, some people actually type after thinking, instead of typing what they FEEL.
Note: I am actually not offended by “cons”, nor should anyone be about “Libs”. “Wingnuts” is meant to be offensive, I understand this. All I’m saying is that you show more actual hatred in one small post than you think, while projecting this onto others…others who can debate without resorting to insult and made-up words…and this is telling.
Taqiyyotomist
15 years ago
Yes, I acknowledge using the perjorative “moonbat”.
But at least I can argue without changing Barack Obama’s name. I can say Democrat, and even capitalize it. Neither makes me cringe, neither makes me want to wash my hands 20 times. They’re just words. I am not afraid of words.
MOST moonbats cannot do this. Neither can (relatively speaking, FEW) wingnuts.
So, if I seem to display a bit of hypocrisy on this front, by very occasionally using the term “moonbat” – I’m only human, and there are matters of perspective and proportion to consider.
“…when a guy with no inherited money makes it to the pinnacle of his field (law),…”
And what would that “pinnacle” be, exactly? What great legislative accomplishments can O’Bunko lay claim to? What were his grades at ANY school he ever attended? If he had been any good at what he did there, we would know about it. We don’t. Nobody does.
Of course, if you know some actual facts that would dispel our ignorance, feel free to share. Go right ahead and dazzle us with your superior knowledge.
Taqiyyotomist
15 years ago
If there exists hatred for Obama, it sure isn’t inexplicable.
Maybe what he means by “inexplicable” is “I don’t understand” the reasons for the hatred.
The fault lies, not with us, but with those who try not to understand, despite reams of fully-verbose explanations, reasons, evidence, facts, historical perspective, lessons, teachings, and a thousand other forms of explanation, so that they can say, “It’s inexplicable!”
No, B-Rob. You just have the will to keep yourself from understanding.
“There are none so blind as those who will not see.”
Get over yourself. There’s no need for all the anger, and the
“clearing it up for you” line was simple sarcasm. I believe we’re on the
same side.
Taqiyyotomist
15 years ago
Addendum: it might not be B-Rob’s “will to not understand”, which leads him to see our thinking as “inexplicable”.
It might be a reading comprehension problem.
It might be a lack of (true) historical knowledge.
It might be a lack of or a twisted version of classical Logic.
It might be an innate inability to retain information.
It might be any of these things.
It might be that his public-school education has programmed him in such a way that he really is incapable of acquiring information in an investigative manner, or that his brain has been rendered by such de-education incapable of digesting this information once he has either found or been given it.
Or, he might just not want to understand. I’m no psychologist. I do know what “inexplicable” means, and to paraphrase The Princess Bride, it doesn’t mean what he thinks it means.
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@B-Rob: Let me say that I don’t agree with Mumbo’s personal comments. And I daresay that most of us here do not have disdain for the Obamas as people but as elected politicos that are overtly attempting to “remake” America from it’s original Founding principles.
Personally I thought Mrs. O looked stunning in the Oslo photos. My only criticism may come from questioning the wisdom of selecting such fashion opulence while the nation is struggling to make ends meet. That sort of presentation smacks of the actions of despots and sends a not so pretty picture. But that’s neither here nor there, and isn’t a subject I’m likely to waste much time on.
What I will waste time on is your constant lumping of one person’s commentary as indicative of us all. Perhaps this comes from your class warfare legal background and perhaps personal opinions and experiences. But it’s always quite irritating. Hint: we carbon units may look alike and share the same construction, but we all have differing nuances and tend to be a mixture of perspectives. I suggest that you will do much better on this site when you drop your blanket class warfare, and direct your personal rants against the party who got your dander up to begin with. Until you do so, you will always wander in here with a large cyber bullseye on your chest.
As far as the Big Zero’s accomplishments…. his legal career appears to be confined to one court appearance or so on behalf of a fair housing/CRA/ACORN type lawsuit. Something I suspect you may be familiar with yourself. Outside of that, he has admitted that most of his work was a part of a research team while others were the lead attorneys and courtroom mouthpieces. This means that the “pinnacle” you describe is limited to editor of the Harvard Law Review, and being a glorified paralegal. Of the former, I’ve read conflicting reviews on his servitude, including the distinct lack of substantive personal contributions to that journal. Don’t know…. don’t care. Being the editor of a college journal is a far cry from commander in chief, and POTUS.
His political career is even less stellar as a serving state or federal Senator…. what little time he actually spent as an active elected representative in either body, doing the people’s work. Indeed, it appears that the Big Zero’s greatest skill is campaigning… and even that is a skill he delegates to others more competent than he. He is merely the dummy on the Greek column stage to the ventriloquist in the wings.
Problem with such thin accomplishments is they tend to show up over time. And time has not been very kind to this Oval Office occupant thus far, and promises an even more rocky future which we… the citizens… will be paying for over a very long period of time.
I, personally, am not willing to have a POTUS in training when it’s costing me, the taxpayer, so much for that training. My problem with the Obamas is their philosophy of what America “should” be, and not the America that provided them the opportunities they now enjoy… and abuse.
Dr. Utopia don’t need no stinkin’ Norway lunch with King! Just gimme the prize and the money, fool!
Surprise Norway….not only is the Zero in Chief arrogant he is also protocol ignorant.
I’m really surprised that our President seems to be willing to pass on another chance to bow and scrape in another country.
I read interesting commentary in the American Spectator yesterday. Seems as though the Constitutional scholar is quiet on what the Constitution says about accepting “any present, Emolument, Office or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or Foreign State.” while serving in office.
http://spectator.org/archives/2009/12/09/washington-emolument
Yah sure, maybe this is why Presidents don’t do phony peace prizes.
Indeed, since the President has said he will donate the prize to charity it should be said that the $1.4 million is not HIS to give away – it belongs to the people of the United States. In addition, acceptance of the prize is unconstitutional – an award from a foreign body is clearly verboten in our Constitution.
And yes, he is an ASS!
Thump thump; there goes the King and the Nobel committee under the Obama bus. Use and throw away.
Why are these people surprised at how ignorant and uncaring PEBO is. He doesn’t give one iota about the prize only what he can gain from it by holding it up as a symbol to his administration being great. Protocal to him is having people tell him how great he is and then moving out of his way so he can talk to the infuencial people.
Not for the first time since this boob has taken the oath of office am I ashamed for my country.
The only thing this Obamination was groomed for was the delicate art of B.S. He doesn’t have the grooming or the class or the KNOWLEDGE to understand all that he is attempting to undertake. What he understands is that he is in office and believes he can do and say anything he darn well pleases and comment on everything, while the masses of ‘blinded by his light’ liberals follow him, like a cockroach into the trash. He isn’t a leader, he’s a mess. The more he talks and the more he steps into, the more truth about him comes to light.
No class bum.
Amen.
Maybe this will teach the Norwegians not to give a freaking president of the United States a Nobel prize, I imagine he has some things to do.
Though he should have at least eaten the lunch with the King.
EDIT:
@ Missy- Interesting thought, I hadn’t thought of it that way. Though it wouldn’t be the first time he, or other politicians Ignored the constitution.
tfhr@4:
I’m really surprised that our President seems to be willing to pass on another chance to bow and scrape in another country.
Let me clear that up for you. The Norwegians are WHITE people, living in a civilized, democratic society. Obama only bows and scrapes to despots running socialist/Marxist thugocracies. (The Emperor of Japan was an acceptable exception because it was a good chance to run down the U.S. for bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki.)
Hope that helps.
@Richard: Good point. Obama didn’t bow to Queen Elizabeth either…
Homerun, Missy. I maintain that the bust of Churchill belonged to the people of the United States and was not his to send back to England. Even the smallest gifts to presidents while in office are stored in the Smithsonian. That is the law.
It only took thirteen comments for someone to state the absolute, unvarnished truth of the matter.
KUDOS, RICHARD.
I refuse to chalk this up to another (YET another) example of Obama’s ignorance of protocol.
I also refuse to chalk this up to another example of his arrogance, or even his propensity to “make mistakes”.
He did this on purpose – that is, with a clear reason – for the same reason he snubbed the Brits with his return of the bust of Churchill, the same reason he snubbed Japan with his abject, overt display of complete dishonor by changing all his scheduling at the last moments.
He bows and scrapes to those who have most hated America – dictators, communist regimes, and outright thug-ocracies – and snubs our allies and friends worldwide, in as overt and you-can’t-possibly-miss-this a way as possible. That is the simple fact. Not ignorance. Not pride.
Anyone who says these are “mistakes” and just examples of “ineptness” and “ignorance” is missing what he is trying ever-so-hard to make sure you DON’T miss. All those other distractions are just dishonest, rose-colored-glasses excuses and lies. Excuses for a man who hates and has always hated America, and who makes every effort to tell you this with each and every action and word. I’m done giving this man excuses. He’s a wicked man, plain and simple – and one who is not confused or ignorant about what he is doing.
Thank you Richard, you beat me to it.
Tom in CA
Wow! If I’d known I’d get such high praise from the good folks posting here, I would have piped up a lot sooner! lol
This is a great blog, and a “must read” for me everyday.
Thanks to everyone who was kind enough to comment on my post.
@Skookum:
Thanks Skookum, been so busy shoveling the global warming off my drive and deck the last two days, it’s hard to keep up.
I think the $1.4 mil should go directly to the treasury, the medal to the Smithsonian and give Obama a nice plastic replica as a keepsake, a fake award for something he didn’t earn.
@Gayle Miller:
Is ACORN considered a charity?
I understand that when Dr. Utopia declined to attend the Nobel concert today, those crafty Norwegians replaced him with a cardboard cut out. Do you think we could get them to keep him and send us that cut out? It probably would do a better job and show more class. . .
Wow, what a week. Made a magazine cover with Tiger Woods, finally got his hands on that Nobel, Michelle is one of Barbara Walter’s most fascinating people and now this:
http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/12/man-child-president-honored-in.html
Got to it before me too Richard. Good call.
On another note, I heard today that President and Michelle Obama were on their hotel balcony as a parade of Norweigans walked by with torches and candles. It was mentioned that the President was in tux, (understandable) but Michelle was dressed like nobility. I’d love to see the pix if anyone finds them. I need a laugh.
*Note to Wordsmith – yes, this is a completely acceptable event to hold a caption-this-athon on the First Lady. No kiddies involved. Carry on 😉
@Aqua:
I believe this is what you were looking for:
More here.
@ Aye
You da man Aye!
Yep, they were right. She’s just missing the crown. Why doesn’t she just put one on. The media wouldn’t say anything, except start calling her Your Royal Highness.
Maybe Obama snubbed them because he’s actually embarrassed to recieve the award? Nah, I forgot, he snubs our allies but has plenty of time for dictators.
Obama is just dirt-common trash who has absolutely no idea how to act like an adult in polite society – much less how to pretend to be a president.
He expects the Norwegians – and everyone else, it seems – to understand that he is just too important to observe the normal amenities; and their schedule and traditions just don’t matter in the face of *his* priorities.
After all, he’s just treating them like Americans.
The michelle, it goes without saying, is just as crude, just as tacky, just as dirt-common.
@Aye Chihuahua:
Ohh, Oh, they must have forgotten to pack the Marie Antoinette wig. Bo is probably full speed, four on the floor ripping through the WH corridors with it as we speak with grandma. the girls and Secret Service in hot pursuit! Oh, dear.
No surprise… grab the money and run….
Maybe he can donate it to fund his o’healthcare for about, uh, five minutes.
From Spiegel comes this:
“The Wrong Prize at the Wrong Time”
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,666419,00.html
@Richard: I’m glad you are out there reading and even happier to have you commenting… Please make a habit of it.
@Old Trooper:
Idiots!
“The Iraq war greatly damaged the West’s relationship with the Muslim world and it still hasn’t been prepared(sic) today.
The Muslim world is dreck! What part of saving a people from a ruthless dictator don’t they like? What part of ‘most of the casualties were caused by Muslim(s)
terrorists(redundant)’ don’t those demented scum understand?“The anti-war stance of Chirac, Putin and Schröder wasn’t effective at the time. It seemed hopeless. It was extremely risky. But the trio was, in hindsight, correct nonetheless.”
NO THEY WEREN’T! The Euroweenies are as bat excrement clueless as the &$#%* Muslims!
ARRRRRGH!
//RANT=OFF// (for now)
@ Mamba —
“Obama is just dirt-common trash who has absolutely no idea how to act like an adult in polite society – much less how to pretend to be a president . . . michelle, it goes without saying, is just as crude, just as tacky, just as dirt-common.”
You wingnuts need to get your stories straight. Either Obama is an effete Ivy League educated elitist, or he is dirt-common trash. He can’t be both, morons! But here is a hint: when a guy with no inherited money makes it to the pinnacle of his field (law), then is elected president with more votes than any candidate, and the second largest vote margin ever, it is quite unlikely that your “snobbish oaf” opinions are shared by many people.
The real problem for you cons — you have a lot of inexplicable personal hatred for the Obamas . . . but the American people simply don’t share it with you. They are very well liked by the American people. Witness how many copies are sold when they are put on the cover of a magazine . . . especially Michelle. Obviously, the voters in “real America” don’t think he is an effete snob, or that he is “dirt-common trash” . . . otherwise, he would not have been elected with a near 10 million vote margin, would he? Yep, the American people really like the Obamas and think they are good ambassadors for the US on many levels . . . and that probably kills you people.
The fact that you are so angry, and it is not shared by “real Americans,” says more about you folks than it says about the voters or the Obamas. And you may think you are enlightened and in tune to things that the majority of people just don’t understand, hence your hatred; but we “real Americans” think you cons are just nuts and need psychiatric help.
@Richard:
What is it that you think I need “clearing up” on, Richard?
Mine was a comment critical of Obama’s foreign policy and public behavior, not a request for “help”, as you seem to think. The next time you decide to make a comment here about something you deem worthy, don’t use my remarks to step off on some tangent that involves your perception about another person’s view of race.
I would have let your snarky style, ie, the “clearing up” and “hope that helps” ride without comment but when you throw in something like “The Norwegians are WHITE people, living in a civilized, democratic society”, you can just leave me the f__k out.
We can probably agree on many of the multitude of negative qualities displayed by Barack Obama. I honestly cannot think of a good thing to say about the man at this particular moment, other than he’s done a good job taking care of his immediate family. But if you want to ascribe some sort of racist bent to the man, please don’t use my comments as your stepping stone. I like Flopping Aces because the people that post here are typically well informed and while they voice their opinions with great conviction, they seldom assign the worst without having solid ground to stand on before doing so. Make your argument and post it wherever you want but don’t link me to it unless you have proof.
@B-Rob:
That’s right, come here and tell us that we need psychiatric help because we don’t like Obama’s behavior or policies and then describe us as “nuts” and “angry”. Very civil. Very balanced.
There’s a lot not to like about the President and limiting it to his lack of grounding in a life common to many Americans would give short shrift to the his many public gaffs and policy errors made since the election. We know he has academic credentials and so did John Kerry, who served in Vietnam, but let’s face it, Obama’s ability to speak well from behind a teleprompter is not a measure of intellect. We eventually learned that elitist John Kerry, the much vaunted public speaker and man of international intrigue, had a GPA was lower than that of George W. Bush. I don’t believe GPAs are the best measure of true intellect but considering much has been made of Obama’s Harvard credentials, it is very surprising that he would want to prevent the release of details regarding his performance there. Kind of makes you wonder why we’ve never been treated to the wonder of Obama’s transcripts. You’d think he’d be so proud of it that he’d have it on the wall right next to his Nobel Prize.
You brag about elections and the media adulation of their celebrated choice for President. Could you have picked a pond with thinner ice to cross? For all of the stupidity wrongly attributed to Bush, he managed to defeat John Kerry. Must have been those “unreal Americans” that voted for him, huh? Bush also beat the other prime example of Nobel Prize worthlessness, Al Gore. Please don’t tell me you’re still counting chads or still circulating that petition to do away with the Electoral College.
Paris Hilton and Tiger Woods are on the cover of a lot of magazines these days. I don’t think that translates into “the real America” having some sort of approval for their behavior or ideas. Above all, when you start to believe that the media is a reflection of “real America” rather than a spectacle or often times an agenda driven element of liberal political thought, you can consider yourself free of any shred of objectivity.
There is a reason that Obama’s popularity is at it’s lowest point right now but you’d have to tear yourself away from Vanity Fair to find out. “The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 27% of the nation’s voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-nine percent (39%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -12. Just 36% now believe that the president is doing a good or an excellent job handling the economy while 45% rate his performance in this area as poor. Among those not affiliated with either major party, 52% give the President poor marks when it comes to the economy.” Put down your Newsweak with the glossy pictures of Obama wading out of the surf, and give this a look:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Next ask yourself if Scott Rasmussen, president of an independent polling company only calls angry and insane people to conduct his surveys. What do you think?
I saw that Obama’s absence in Norway at certain Nobel functions has been remedied by using a cardboard cutout. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h4byyCERQn0IS0kjtYz2SHOq0qvwD9CGN8IO0
My question is how will the Norwegians be able to tell the difference?
B-rob just doesn’t get that we’re not that into him I’m afraid. As tfhr points out, there’s a lot not to like but the Kool Aid Kids are welcome to follow him down the drain if they like 🙂
B-Rob
A similar dichotomy existed during the years of “Bushitler”, if you can recall. He was both a bumbling chimp idiot, and at the same time, an evil genius who took down the WTC and kept it all hush-hush in the leakiest city in the nation. He singlehandedly silenced dissent while at the same time millions took to the streets “spontaneously” and shouted for eight years that he was silencing them. This evil monster was all about the dissent-silencing and the Nazi imagery at the anti-America-winning-a-war-which-was-forced-on-her rallies attested to this widely-held and insane belief. (And they were ALL funded entirely and directed and organized by W.W.P. and other Soros organizations, then called “grass roots”, thus destroying another english phrase and rendering it meaningless.) This Nazi Bushitler was shutting down ALL dissent and trampling on the rights of all dissenters while at the same time Mother Cindy Sheehan set up camp a few feet from this Hitler’s FRONT YARD AT HOME, and was allowed to continue unfettered.
Barack Obama did not make it to the “top of his field” through his own efforts, and that is readily apparant. This man was made by others, from the minute he was conceived, and perhaps even prior. He has no real achievments in the field of law, other than the Cloward-Piven takedown of the mortgage industry. Obama and ACORN and hundreds of thousands of their “organized” shook down the banks, one by one, with all the standard Alinsky tactics of both creating the sores, then “rubbing raw the sores of discontent” which they had created, and then using the anger of the “organized” to force banks to lend to people with no means (or even desire) to pay these loans back. That is all Obama accomplished, and he didn’t do it to “help the poor”, he did it to take down Fannie and Freddie and force the government to take over the industry entirely. The poor, as always with this crowd, were merely tools to a greater end.
Obama has never made a dollar in his life through honest work. He was “granted”, “gifted”, and outright GIVEN, all that he ever had materially, by other communists, agitators, and organizations dedicated to taking this country and giving it the USSR workover. Every dime was given to him by millionaires and shakedown artists whose goal was what we have now, a Fellow Traveller in the White House. He was a priveleged rich kid from the minute he “popped out his momma”.
Regarding the standard “people who disagree with me need psychiatric help”…you may just get your wish, if the current trend toward outright fascism continues. Lock ’em all up, those who disagree, those who dissent. Pink-slip ’em. Put them on psych drugs and prevent them from ever speaking again, or participating in the electoral processes of this Republic. That’s what you want, is it not?
The real mental disorder is Liberalism, BUT even I would not recommend “psychiatric help”. Most of the people in that twisted, moonbat-ized field would only reinforce the erroneous thinking.
Education is all that is needed, and maybe a dose of cold Communist reality: bread lines, work camps, big holes in the ground with piles of State-murdered bodies in them, piles of human skulls that were once living, breathing, loving people that YOU KNEW. You know, all the requisite trappings of every single communist regime that has ever foisted itself on an unwilling populace, in all of human history. Who knows, maybe your guy will beat Mao’s gold standard of killing 70+ million of his people? He sure has enough supporters who think Mao was a Great Man.
*hands moonbat-spanking paddle back to tfhr*
Sniff….
Sniff…. Sniff….
A sweet aroma…..with a subtle hint of cinnamony smoothness….
Oh, how I love the scent of skooled moonbat on a crisp December morning.
“You wingnuts…”
“…you cons…”
“He can’t be both, morons!”
“…that probably kills you people.”
“…we ‘real Americans’ think you cons are just nuts and need psychiatric help.”
vs., in same post:
“…you have a lot of inexplicable personal hatred…”
“The fact that you are so angry…”
Is it us, with the anger and the hatred? Is it really, B-Rob?
I’ve read the rantings of seriously crazy people, case studies, writings by people on LSD, etc.
You display some common traits in your writing.
Is “conservatives” too hard to type? Or is it an ingrained inability to actually say the word, so that you have to use what you deem a perjorative, “cons”? Go read Huffpo (as I’m sure you do), and see that pattern repeated in almost every comment. Crazy people who are full of abject hatred can’t type actual english words when referring to the objects of their hatred. It is as if they possess some voodoo power, or as if actually referring to a Republican as a Republican lends them unearned credibility, and so they have to say “repug” and “repuke”. “bushies” instead of “Bush supporters”, “Shrub”, “Bushitler”, etc.
I see this behavior on the right as well in discussion forums, though not nearly as pervasive as on the left. Some people on both sides can actually debate a topic that they hold dear, or are passionate about, WITHOUT THIS COMPULSION TO MAKE UP NEW WORDS! Imagine that!
Yes, some people actually type after thinking, instead of typing what they FEEL.
Note: I am actually not offended by “cons”, nor should anyone be about “Libs”. “Wingnuts” is meant to be offensive, I understand this. All I’m saying is that you show more actual hatred in one small post than you think, while projecting this onto others…others who can debate without resorting to insult and made-up words…and this is telling.
Yes, I acknowledge using the perjorative “moonbat”.
But at least I can argue without changing Barack Obama’s name. I can say Democrat, and even capitalize it. Neither makes me cringe, neither makes me want to wash my hands 20 times. They’re just words. I am not afraid of words.
MOST moonbats cannot do this. Neither can (relatively speaking, FEW) wingnuts.
So, if I seem to display a bit of hypocrisy on this front, by very occasionally using the term “moonbat” – I’m only human, and there are matters of perspective and proportion to consider.
@B-Rob:
“…when a guy with no inherited money makes it to the pinnacle of his field (law),…”
And what would that “pinnacle” be, exactly? What great legislative accomplishments can O’Bunko lay claim to? What were his grades at ANY school he ever attended? If he had been any good at what he did there, we would know about it. We don’t. Nobody does.
As to the money, the Saudi’s, and other low-lifes, own him
Based on his crude bumbling it is obvious that Zero-Blanko is nothing but Kenyan trailer-trash.
“…you have a lot of inexplicable personal hatred for the Obamas…”
“Inexplicable”??? That clown and his goons are destroying America. It makes perfect sense to anyone not immersed in the propaganda of the Left. “Inexplicable” my @$$
Of course, if you know some actual facts that would dispel our ignorance, feel free to share. Go right ahead and dazzle us with your superior knowledge.
If there exists hatred for Obama, it sure isn’t inexplicable.
Maybe what he means by “inexplicable” is “I don’t understand” the reasons for the hatred.
The fault lies, not with us, but with those who try not to understand, despite reams of fully-verbose explanations, reasons, evidence, facts, historical perspective, lessons, teachings, and a thousand other forms of explanation, so that they can say, “It’s inexplicable!”
No, B-Rob. You just have the will to keep yourself from understanding.
“There are none so blind as those who will not see.”
LOL! Nice catch, yonason.
Inexplicable. LAWLS!!
What gets me is that BROB calls himself a ‘real American.’
It’s it fantastic how these “people” can go around questioning our patriotism and yet if we respond in kind they act all outraged?
Yeah BROB…. you’re a “real america” in the same way Stalinists thought they were the patriots of the Soviet motherland.
You would destroy the “real america” that has made this country a light unto the nations and turn it into another squalid socialist basketcase.
No thanks.
tfhr @35:
Get over yourself. There’s no need for all the anger, and the
“clearing it up for you” line was simple sarcasm. I believe we’re on the
same side.
Addendum: it might not be B-Rob’s “will to not understand”, which leads him to see our thinking as “inexplicable”.
It might be a reading comprehension problem.
It might be a lack of (true) historical knowledge.
It might be a lack of or a twisted version of classical Logic.
It might be an innate inability to retain information.
It might be any of these things.
It might be that his public-school education has programmed him in such a way that he really is incapable of acquiring information in an investigative manner, or that his brain has been rendered by such de-education incapable of digesting this information once he has either found or been given it.
Or, he might just not want to understand. I’m no psychologist. I do know what “inexplicable” means, and to paraphrase The Princess Bride, it doesn’t mean what he thinks it means.
@Taqiyyotomist:
Might be that he’s an attorney on the south side of Chicago.
SO, WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT OBAMA?
Original birth certificate ——————————Unavailable
Obama/Dunham marriage license ————–Unavailable
Soetoro/Dunham marriage license ————–Unavailable
Soetoro adoption records—————————-Unavailable
Dept.of Education Hawaii Kindergarten Records———Unavailable
Punahou School records—————————-Unavailable
Occidental College records ———————–Unavailable
Passport (Pakistan) ———————————Unavailable
Columbia College ————————————-Unavailable
Columbia thesis —————————————-Unavailable
(Topic: Nuclear Disarmament, written during Cold War ’83)
Harvard College records —————————–Unavailable
Harvard Law Review articles ———————–Unavailable
(Evidence that one may have been written, yet it is unsigned)
Baptism certificate ————————————Unavailable
Medical records —————————————–Unavailable
Illinois State Senate records —————————-None
Illinois State Senate schedule ————————–Lost
Law practice client list ——————————Not released
University of Chicago scholarly articles ——-None on file
Indonesian Besuki School Application———–Located
(Enrolled with name Barry Soetoro-faith “Islam”
Selective Service Registration- ——————*Released, but under investigation as fraudulent
_______________________________________________________________________
Good thing the MSM was “vetting” Palin instead of wasting time telling us all that stuff that’s common knowledge about Obama.
THE MAN WHO AUGHTA BE KING?
Set your sights high, Barry. We’re rooting for ya.
Yeah, he’s definitely got the qualifications for that job.
@B-Rob: Let me say that I don’t agree with Mumbo’s personal comments. And I daresay that most of us here do not have disdain for the Obamas as people but as elected politicos that are overtly attempting to “remake” America from it’s original Founding principles.
Personally I thought Mrs. O looked stunning in the Oslo photos. My only criticism may come from questioning the wisdom of selecting such fashion opulence while the nation is struggling to make ends meet. That sort of presentation smacks of the actions of despots and sends a not so pretty picture. But that’s neither here nor there, and isn’t a subject I’m likely to waste much time on.
What I will waste time on is your constant lumping of one person’s commentary as indicative of us all. Perhaps this comes from your class warfare legal background and perhaps personal opinions and experiences. But it’s always quite irritating. Hint: we carbon units may look alike and share the same construction, but we all have differing nuances and tend to be a mixture of perspectives. I suggest that you will do much better on this site when you drop your blanket class warfare, and direct your personal rants against the party who got your dander up to begin with. Until you do so, you will always wander in here with a large cyber bullseye on your chest.
As far as the Big Zero’s accomplishments…. his legal career appears to be confined to one court appearance or so on behalf of a fair housing/CRA/ACORN type lawsuit. Something I suspect you may be familiar with yourself. Outside of that, he has admitted that most of his work was a part of a research team while others were the lead attorneys and courtroom mouthpieces. This means that the “pinnacle” you describe is limited to editor of the Harvard Law Review, and being a glorified paralegal. Of the former, I’ve read conflicting reviews on his servitude, including the distinct lack of substantive personal contributions to that journal. Don’t know…. don’t care. Being the editor of a college journal is a far cry from commander in chief, and POTUS.
His political career is even less stellar as a serving state or federal Senator…. what little time he actually spent as an active elected representative in either body, doing the people’s work. Indeed, it appears that the Big Zero’s greatest skill is campaigning… and even that is a skill he delegates to others more competent than he. He is merely the dummy on the Greek column stage to the ventriloquist in the wings.
Problem with such thin accomplishments is they tend to show up over time. And time has not been very kind to this Oval Office occupant thus far, and promises an even more rocky future which we… the citizens… will be paying for over a very long period of time.
I, personally, am not willing to have a POTUS in training when it’s costing me, the taxpayer, so much for that training. My problem with the Obamas is their philosophy of what America “should” be, and not the America that provided them the opportunities they now enjoy… and abuse.
@MataHarley:
“glorified paralegal”
I think you have him by the pinnacles, Mata. Nice job, as usual.