all i can say is beeing president is the hardest job specialy for a super power as every one focus on the man without focussing on the job specialy war decision that involve death of a lot of the bravest of our people he has many that are around him that need to work better to support him and give their knowlege on difficult issue putting aside their own secret goal.,thank you
jjsmoof
15 years ago
@bees
Put down the hope bong. Everybody but Obama’s fault doesn’t fly here.
Temujin
15 years ago
Who are the ~27% – 30% who strongly approve? Can that many likely voters be totally brain dead and still function in society? That appears to be a self-destructive path towards killing the golden goose.
Hard Right
15 years ago
ilovebeeswarzone, did someone jack your nic?
57 percent of independents approve of how he is handling international affairs? 46 percent approve of how he’s handling terrorism? 45 percent think he’s done a good job with the economy?
Are they mentally handicapped or just closet libs?
John Cooper
15 years ago
“Independents”? Oh, I know, those are the people who don’t follow politics and have absolutely no clue what is going on in the world outside their meaningless lives. I guess they’re like “Moderates”, in that when they’re offered two dishes – one a wholesome meal and the other poison – they want to compromise and take some of each.
Skookum
15 years ago
Yes, I can see how someone could sit through twenty years of that and be confused about the message. It could happen to any of us, especially if we were deaf or brain dead.
@ilovebeeswarzone: Is this an attempt at free-verse-stream-of- consciousness or merely that you are illiterate and can’t spell or punctuate? Either way, it’s merely annoying and I’ll have to scroll past you in the future. There now. If your reason is that you can’t spell or punctuate, I’ve given you another excuse…to add to those you use for 0zer0.
@John Cooper: I don’t know who you talk to but I’m an Independent and most everyone I communicate with are too. You can blame many of us for being in the Democratic Party for years…and who left, never to return when we were violently shaken awake last year… but why wouldn’t you want our votes for a conservative candidate?
My family was extremely political…always…and I inherited my Democrat roots. However, I relate to David Horowitz, who was also bamboozled for many years.
We know what a RINO is but I voted for McCain because of Palin…well, and the fact that compared to 0zer0, he at least is a patriot and legally qualified. I doubt that disparaging Indpendents will change any of their minds but count your blessings Bub, we’re on the same page. I did everything in my power to reason with old friends who drank the poison kool-aid and even if they were still asleep in the voting booth, I will still be there to help them when the time comes that they can no longer deny what a disaster they helped facilitate. And if they will join me in working for the removal of the most dangerous administration in the history of our country, I will say “All is forgiven” and let’s go forward. I’ll treasure every vote against the threat.
Country Before Party. And, no, I don’t believe Beck is right when he said McCain would have been worse than 0zer0. I will vote for anyone over this administration…who can win. And for any Republican who stayed home and sulked because he wasn’t right wing enough…shame on you. I don’t believe that real conservatism is right, left or moderate, merely common sense and you’d better start promoting it that way or be prepared to lose again. I want them handcuffed in 2010 for the sake saving our way of life. I do have faith that Sarah will be a great help in separating the wheat from the chaff in supporting conservative candidates between now and November 2010.
@Ann Monterye i am doing the best i can to write properly and respect not every body does it you could pass me if you want it is okay with me you dont have to insult me because you do not like my comment either,thank you.
Just a guess here, but I’m thinking that English may be a second language for ilovebees.
Temujin
15 years ago
His role as President is different from his role as Commander in Chief. With regard to the latter, he has the same responsibility of any commander of troops. A commander must juggle numerous glass balls simultaneously. First and foremost, he must successfully execute the mission. Secondly, take care of your soldiers, including not subjecting them to unnecessary risk. The commander cannot drop either of these. Our CinC has not elucidated a clear mission for our troops in conflict, and therefore by definition, cannot successfully execute that unstated mission. Secondly, he has our troops in harms way and his General says he needs more troops for force protection. Force protection. Meaning to protect the soldiers in theater. Delay in making a decision to either provide the resources necessary (troop strength) or to bring all the troops home, is and will continue to be, paid for in American blood. Numerous delays in our wartime history have cost American lives. Look up Task Force Smith, for example. Our country traded American lives for time. Must we continue to do that? It is terribly expensive to do so and in terms not measured in currency.
Define the mission and give the ground commanders adequate resources to accomplish that mission or call it off and bring our troops home. No CinC has the right to play with these soldiers’ lives to buy time to contemplate his navel. Even a wrong decision is better than no decision. As has been said so often, “lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!”
Independent Voter
15 years ago
No, John Cooper, it’s because Independents do follow politics that we know both major parties are corrupt and not worthy of our support. It’s because we so value our freedoms of thought, religion, etc., that we refuse to trade our autonomy for the party line. And it’s because we follow politics and the shenanigans that go on with the FDA that we know that “wholesome” meal you’re offering is actually full of transfats, pesticides, herbicides, artificial flavorings, toxic food dyes and preservatives, so we’ll pass. Independents don’t let a political party dictate our thoughts and decision making process. We think for ourselves. We’re not sheeple to the partisan power brokers.
Like it or not, neither party can win without the Independents, and our numbers are growing as both parties continue to blow off the Independent thinker.
Skookum
15 years ago
Well put Tj, I think that was the Second Marine Division in the Pacific if my feeble memory serves me correctly. None the less, thank you for expressing my feelings so well!
Temujin
15 years ago
@Skookum: Thank you Sir. I believe the 2d Mar Div was the unit that had a reputation for not taking prisoners of war. Given the decision to try KSM and associates in the U.S., I tend to think that the 2d Mar Div was sending a message through history to our soldiers of today.
disenchanted
15 years ago
Temujin said
Who are the ~27% – 30% who strongly approve?
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the 4 million that are either dead, illegal or those that voted multiple times.
Hard Right
15 years ago
Well Independent Voter, you answered my question. You are mentally handicapped. Independant numbers are growing because people like me call ourselves Conservatives and NOT Republicans. The numbers are growing because both parties have failed to keep their promises, failed to listen to them, and people are tired of it. It’s certainly not because of bogus health scares gullible people like yourself buy into.
If you spent any time reading this site you’d know we don’t tow the party line here. If you did that tho, you couldn’t pat yourself on the back for being superior to all us “mindless drones”. Get over yourself. If your post is any indication, and I think it is, you have nothing to feel superior about.
As far as you being an independant, you sound like a lib and not an independant thinker. I bet you represent the 46% and 45% I posted about. To put that in terms even you can understand, that’s not a good thing.
“Like a star rushing from one show to another, Obama has come and gone, without stirring the slightest ripples,” blogger Zhao Dezhu wrote in an online post.
Zhao, who writes a popular blog and twitters under the name Hecaitou, said the visit made him miss Bush who “couldn’t speak with flowery language and even made grammatical mistakes but spoke as plainly as an American farmer.”
Obama, by contrast, speaks “with sweet but empty words.”
Chinese bloggers who saw it were grateful that he addressed censorship, but many zeroed in on what they considered Obama’s waffling language.
“Learn English from Obama: Instead of saying ‘I want to eat,’ say ‘I am a big supporter of non-hunger,'” Wang Pei, a writer based in eastern China’s Hangzhou, twittered on Tuesday.
Yang Zili, a Chinese dissident recently freed after eight years in prison for forming a political study group, had been expecting something stronger from Obama.
“Although Obama mentioned some words such as ‘rights’ and ‘freedom’ in the speech in Shanghai, we expect he can do more to promote the improvement of China’s human rights condition,” he said.
Obama appeases governments, leaders and heads of state with grandiose words, he however lacks the substance for any real change or progress for the people who live under their rule. The U.S is no exception…The international community is beginning to realize he is just an empty suit…
Hard Right
15 years ago
Temujin said
Who are the ~27% – 30% who strongly approve?
Radical leftists who left the DNC because they aren’t pushing for Communism.
IMO . . .The Rasmussen passion index of -14 for OBOWMA further indicates the re-awakening of the American people. . .Conservatives, Independents, and yes — even some die-hard Democrats. I predict the number will go further into the negative range. . .as his credibility halo further dims and the socialist agenda continues to unfold.
OBOWMA and and minions — including Gibbs, have claimed repeatedly that polls do not matter. However, has anyone read the CNN, while-in-China presidential interview?
OBOWMA suggested that if his poll numbers were ‘in the tank’, he would consider NOT running for re-election. Is he so thin-skinned, that his new angle is to seek sympathy through the low poll numbers? His interview responses makes him sound like a mere spoiled child.
By the way. . .if anyone believes he would actually NOT run, the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale. . .
I could see that happening. IMHO, he would walk away rather than face the humiliation of defeat. Go back to the life he’s comfortable with in Chicago, make big bucks on the speaking circuit and all will be well, out of the fishbowl into an environment he can control. No more of the evil FOX News, Limbaugh, Hannity or Glenn Beck picking on him. Ayres will write another book for him whitewashing the four years.
That statement was made because he’s fretting about declining poll numbers and it’s blowing a hole in his fragile ego and damaging that thin skin. I’m guessing internal polling is worse than what Rassmussen is polling and economical forcasts and military advice that he’s looking at and the public isn’t privy to, isn’t boding well for him either. He knows it’s very likely his polling won’t be coming back up.
When he was in the Illinois State Senate, what accomplishments he ran for US Senate on were taken from others. Senate President, Emil Jones created his resume, he said he was going to make him a president. He took bills other senators had worked for years on and tacked Obama’s name on them.
At this level, even though he is still functioning off the backs of those he has appointed and Congress, he knows the blame is going to fall in his lap. He’s sitting there watching these people drive us off a cliff and he doesn’t have the courage or know how to stop it. He’ll slink away rather than face the mess in a re-election.
either they are incompetent fools or this is a carefully laid out plan to destroy america as we know it.
Actually I think it’s “all of the above”
Sarge
Davey
15 years ago
While O’ Bomba’s approval rating is dropping, I’m still left pondering a question. At this point with all that has transpired in the last few months, are these percentages of folks who still approve of what he’s doing actually live in this country? If they do live here, how many times a day are they smoking crack?
@Missy 23. . .yes, I can see your viewpoint very well. . .that fragile ego does have a lot to do with his decisions. However, don’t discount the Alinski rules — of manipulation of the masses. . .although with the sinking poll numbers, maybe he is realizing that he can no longer hide his agenda. I also agree with you that his internal numbers are probably much worse — in fact the outlier polls are finally caving as well.
As far as OBOWMA’s record in Illinois — you are dead-on. I lived in Chicago from 95 thru 05 and had a front row seat to Senator Present’s antics. I am well acquainted as I was a very active volunteer on Jack Ryan’s Campaign for US Senate. Jack Ryan was ahead in the polls and looked like a shoe-in against Obama. However, as we all remember, Ryan’s divorce records were unsealed (what privacy?) and smeared all over the news media — another Alinsky rule of clearing the playing field.
By the way. . .for posterity. . .I heard Obama debate Alan Keyes (replaced Ryan as R candidate for Senate) Keyes did not even come close in the election but in the run-up to voting, Keyes wiped the floor with O in their debates. I was even embarrassed for O.
I would love to write a book someday about the pre-president Obama and what I saw and heard while living in downtown Chicago (and not just about the rigged voting machines/ballots/precinct reporting and motto of vote earlier/vote often. . THERE’S A LOT MORE) . . .especially the 2004 campaign, election day, BO’s entrance into his Hyatt Hotel Victory Party. . .etc.
Your comment was a trip down memory lane for me, I’ve lived nw of Chicago since 1952. Was a campaign coordinator for Manzullo and we helped Salvi when he ran for Senate against Durbin. Had to bow out shortly after that because of surgery and never got back in but I remember well what they did to Jack Ryan. Shameful!
It has been said that it was Axelrod and a crooked judge that got Ryan’s records unsealed. There’s a lot of info at the Real Barack Obama site, it used to be Rezco Watch, you may be familiar, I think that’s where I may have seen it. Also Tom Roeser’s site is newsy and fun, he knows about lots of skeletons. Chicago’s antics are legendary and even though I’m not part of it, it’s embarassing.
Sounds like our paths may have crossed — or have come close.
You definitely know exactly what I am saying without spelling it out. . .it is appalling there. . .my friends in downstate Illinois have even quit voting in state-wide election as they believe their vote does not count anymore.
The Chicago machine runs the state. . .(and an influence in Major Metro areas of Wisconsin, Indiana elections) as you probably well know.
Mark Kirk is ahead in pre-polls but will face stiff competition no matter who he runs against. Competition not with the other candidate. . but the vote manipulation. . .and Obama’s buddy looks like the current favorite dem Senatorial candidate –Alexi Giannoulias. . .
I plan on building a bunker in an undisclosed location and then write the book.
One last comment on the lawsuit brought about to unseal the Ryan Divorce Papers. I believe you are right in the Axelrod behind-the-scenes-involvement with this shameful “judicial” decision.
The association with Axelrod. . .the suit was brought about by the Chicago Tribune/WLS-TV.
connect the dots. . . Axelrod once upon a time worked as lead political reporter for the Chicago Tribune . . .plus his City Hall job/associations with the big Chicago politicos. . .shameful episode of American politics and judicial travesty.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2295357/posts
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Maybe someone should have unsealed Ted Kennedy’s divorce papers or publicized Kennedy & Dodd shameful double-dates-sexcapades around DC and other geographical points. . .anyone still think politics is a societally-polite High Tea event ?. . .spend time participating in political campaigns.
my friends in downstate Illinois have even quit voting in state-wide election as they believe their vote does not count anymore.
We feel the same but we still do vote. We will be retiring to Missouri soon, looking forward to our votes being counted, that is, if St. Louis and KC are straightened out. Would love to help get rid of McCaskill.
I give my friends, in downstate Illinois, grief for not voting in Illinois state-wide elections. However, I am enthused that they are starting to getting involved in local Tea Party/Conservative movements — if for nothing else but to at least find their voice again and realize you can never give up.
As far as McCaskill — what a shame she replaced Jim Talent — a real loss. I wonder if Michael J Fox is going to go off his meds again and create updated tv campaign ads for her in 2010? Wasn’t McCaskill supposed to usher in a new age of miracles through the embryonic stem cell research. . .if she was just elected?
She was elected by a far left push, in addition to the events surrounding election 2004 but has not gone far enough left to pls these supporters — with the right opposition/and insuring a proper voter balloting process — she could be very vulnerable.
As savvy and knowledgeable as you are — I am probably preaching to the choir. . .would be an accomplishment to participate in unseating her and putting in a Senator who actually cared about the people he/she represented. . .
He is a freaking idiot.
The comments today about the updcoming trial in NYC…
“Yeah, we’ll give them a fair trail and THEN convict them”.
This comment coming from a Harvard Law graduate?
We are Thru the Looking Glass, folks.
all i can say is beeing president is the hardest job specialy for a super power as every one focus on the man without focussing on the job specialy war decision that involve death of a lot of the bravest of our people he has many that are around him that need to work better to support him and give their knowlege on difficult issue putting aside their own secret goal.,thank you
@bees
Put down the hope bong. Everybody but Obama’s fault doesn’t fly here.
Who are the ~27% – 30% who strongly approve? Can that many likely voters be totally brain dead and still function in society? That appears to be a self-destructive path towards killing the golden goose.
ilovebeeswarzone, did someone jack your nic?
57 percent of independents approve of how he is handling international affairs? 46 percent approve of how he’s handling terrorism? 45 percent think he’s done a good job with the economy?
Are they mentally handicapped or just closet libs?
“Independents”? Oh, I know, those are the people who don’t follow politics and have absolutely no clue what is going on in the world outside their meaningless lives. I guess they’re like “Moderates”, in that when they’re offered two dishes – one a wholesome meal and the other poison – they want to compromise and take some of each.
Yes, I can see how someone could sit through twenty years of that and be confused about the message. It could happen to any of us, especially if we were deaf or brain dead.
Skookum….or in agreement…
@ilovebeeswarzone: Is this an attempt at free-verse-stream-of- consciousness or merely that you are illiterate and can’t spell or punctuate? Either way, it’s merely annoying and I’ll have to scroll past you in the future. There now. If your reason is that you can’t spell or punctuate, I’ve given you another excuse…to add to those you use for 0zer0.
@John Cooper: I don’t know who you talk to but I’m an Independent and most everyone I communicate with are too. You can blame many of us for being in the Democratic Party for years…and who left, never to return when we were violently shaken awake last year… but why wouldn’t you want our votes for a conservative candidate?
My family was extremely political…always…and I inherited my Democrat roots. However, I relate to David Horowitz, who was also bamboozled for many years.
We know what a RINO is but I voted for McCain because of Palin…well, and the fact that compared to 0zer0, he at least is a patriot and legally qualified. I doubt that disparaging Indpendents will change any of their minds but count your blessings Bub, we’re on the same page. I did everything in my power to reason with old friends who drank the poison kool-aid and even if they were still asleep in the voting booth, I will still be there to help them when the time comes that they can no longer deny what a disaster they helped facilitate. And if they will join me in working for the removal of the most dangerous administration in the history of our country, I will say “All is forgiven” and let’s go forward. I’ll treasure every vote against the threat.
Country Before Party. And, no, I don’t believe Beck is right when he said McCain would have been worse than 0zer0. I will vote for anyone over this administration…who can win. And for any Republican who stayed home and sulked because he wasn’t right wing enough…shame on you. I don’t believe that real conservatism is right, left or moderate, merely common sense and you’d better start promoting it that way or be prepared to lose again. I want them handcuffed in 2010 for the sake saving our way of life. I do have faith that Sarah will be a great help in separating the wheat from the chaff in supporting conservative candidates between now and November 2010.
@Ann Monterye i am doing the best i can to write properly and respect not every body does it you could pass me if you want it is okay with me you dont have to insult me because you do not like my comment either,thank you.
@AnnMonterey:
Just a guess here, but I’m thinking that English may be a second language for ilovebees.
His role as President is different from his role as Commander in Chief. With regard to the latter, he has the same responsibility of any commander of troops. A commander must juggle numerous glass balls simultaneously. First and foremost, he must successfully execute the mission. Secondly, take care of your soldiers, including not subjecting them to unnecessary risk. The commander cannot drop either of these. Our CinC has not elucidated a clear mission for our troops in conflict, and therefore by definition, cannot successfully execute that unstated mission. Secondly, he has our troops in harms way and his General says he needs more troops for force protection. Force protection. Meaning to protect the soldiers in theater. Delay in making a decision to either provide the resources necessary (troop strength) or to bring all the troops home, is and will continue to be, paid for in American blood. Numerous delays in our wartime history have cost American lives. Look up Task Force Smith, for example. Our country traded American lives for time. Must we continue to do that? It is terribly expensive to do so and in terms not measured in currency.
Define the mission and give the ground commanders adequate resources to accomplish that mission or call it off and bring our troops home. No CinC has the right to play with these soldiers’ lives to buy time to contemplate his navel. Even a wrong decision is better than no decision. As has been said so often, “lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way!”
No, John Cooper, it’s because Independents do follow politics that we know both major parties are corrupt and not worthy of our support. It’s because we so value our freedoms of thought, religion, etc., that we refuse to trade our autonomy for the party line. And it’s because we follow politics and the shenanigans that go on with the FDA that we know that “wholesome” meal you’re offering is actually full of transfats, pesticides, herbicides, artificial flavorings, toxic food dyes and preservatives, so we’ll pass. Independents don’t let a political party dictate our thoughts and decision making process. We think for ourselves. We’re not sheeple to the partisan power brokers.
Like it or not, neither party can win without the Independents, and our numbers are growing as both parties continue to blow off the Independent thinker.
Well put Tj, I think that was the Second Marine Division in the Pacific if my feeble memory serves me correctly. None the less, thank you for expressing my feelings so well!
@Skookum: Thank you Sir. I believe the 2d Mar Div was the unit that had a reputation for not taking prisoners of war. Given the decision to try KSM and associates in the U.S., I tend to think that the 2d Mar Div was sending a message through history to our soldiers of today.
Temujin said
Who are the ~27% – 30% who strongly approve?
—————————
the 4 million that are either dead, illegal or those that voted multiple times.
Well Independent Voter, you answered my question. You are mentally handicapped. Independant numbers are growing because people like me call ourselves Conservatives and NOT Republicans. The numbers are growing because both parties have failed to keep their promises, failed to listen to them, and people are tired of it. It’s certainly not because of bogus health scares gullible people like yourself buy into.
If you spent any time reading this site you’d know we don’t tow the party line here. If you did that tho, you couldn’t pat yourself on the back for being superior to all us “mindless drones”. Get over yourself. If your post is any indication, and I think it is, you have nothing to feel superior about.
As far as you being an independant, you sound like a lib and not an independant thinker. I bet you represent the 46% and 45% I posted about. To put that in terms even you can understand, that’s not a good thing.
Best summed up by the people in China:
The Associated Press
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jQhpEB55WlTeXvEyFxPEx0261WigD9C24AK84
Obama appeases governments, leaders and heads of state with grandiose words, he however lacks the substance for any real change or progress for the people who live under their rule. The U.S is no exception…The international community is beginning to realize he is just an empty suit…
Temujin said
Who are the ~27% – 30% who strongly approve?
Radical leftists who left the DNC because they aren’t pushing for Communism.
IMO . . .The Rasmussen passion index of -14 for OBOWMA further indicates the re-awakening of the American people. . .Conservatives, Independents, and yes — even some die-hard Democrats. I predict the number will go further into the negative range. . .as his credibility halo further dims and the socialist agenda continues to unfold.
OBOWMA and and minions — including Gibbs, have claimed repeatedly that polls do not matter. However, has anyone read the CNN, while-in-China presidential interview?
OBOWMA suggested that if his poll numbers were ‘in the tank’, he would consider NOT running for re-election. Is he so thin-skinned, that his new angle is to seek sympathy through the low poll numbers? His interview responses makes him sound like a mere spoiled child.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/18/obama-wont-read-palins-book/
By the way. . .if anyone believes he would actually NOT run, the Brooklyn Bridge is for sale. . .
this is one horrible administration. either they are incompetent fools or this is a carefully laid out plan to destroy america as we know it.
how long before we take down this administration. the military should roll in with the tanks and arrest all of them.
@American Voter:
I could see that happening. IMHO, he would walk away rather than face the humiliation of defeat. Go back to the life he’s comfortable with in Chicago, make big bucks on the speaking circuit and all will be well, out of the fishbowl into an environment he can control. No more of the evil FOX News, Limbaugh, Hannity or Glenn Beck picking on him. Ayres will write another book for him whitewashing the four years.
That statement was made because he’s fretting about declining poll numbers and it’s blowing a hole in his fragile ego and damaging that thin skin. I’m guessing internal polling is worse than what Rassmussen is polling and economical forcasts and military advice that he’s looking at and the public isn’t privy to, isn’t boding well for him either. He knows it’s very likely his polling won’t be coming back up.
When he was in the Illinois State Senate, what accomplishments he ran for US Senate on were taken from others. Senate President, Emil Jones created his resume, he said he was going to make him a president. He took bills other senators had worked for years on and tacked Obama’s name on them.
At this level, even though he is still functioning off the backs of those he has appointed and Congress, he knows the blame is going to fall in his lap. He’s sitting there watching these people drive us off a cliff and he doesn’t have the courage or know how to stop it. He’ll slink away rather than face the mess in a re-election.
Another thing, he’s lazy.
@southernsue:
Actually I think it’s “all of the above”
Sarge
While O’ Bomba’s approval rating is dropping, I’m still left pondering a question. At this point with all that has transpired in the last few months, are these percentages of folks who still approve of what he’s doing actually live in this country? If they do live here, how many times a day are they smoking crack?
@Missy 23. . .yes, I can see your viewpoint very well. . .that fragile ego does have a lot to do with his decisions. However, don’t discount the Alinski rules — of manipulation of the masses. . .although with the sinking poll numbers, maybe he is realizing that he can no longer hide his agenda. I also agree with you that his internal numbers are probably much worse — in fact the outlier polls are finally caving as well.
As far as OBOWMA’s record in Illinois — you are dead-on. I lived in Chicago from 95 thru 05 and had a front row seat to Senator Present’s antics. I am well acquainted as I was a very active volunteer on Jack Ryan’s Campaign for US Senate. Jack Ryan was ahead in the polls and looked like a shoe-in against Obama. However, as we all remember, Ryan’s divorce records were unsealed (what privacy?) and smeared all over the news media — another Alinsky rule of clearing the playing field.
By the way. . .for posterity. . .I heard Obama debate Alan Keyes (replaced Ryan as R candidate for Senate) Keyes did not even come close in the election but in the run-up to voting, Keyes wiped the floor with O in their debates. I was even embarrassed for O.
I would love to write a book someday about the pre-president Obama and what I saw and heard while living in downtown Chicago (and not just about the rigged voting machines/ballots/precinct reporting and motto of vote earlier/vote often. . THERE’S A LOT MORE) . . .especially the 2004 campaign, election day, BO’s entrance into his Hyatt Hotel Victory Party. . .etc.
@American Voter:
Your comment was a trip down memory lane for me, I’ve lived nw of Chicago since 1952. Was a campaign coordinator for Manzullo and we helped Salvi when he ran for Senate against Durbin. Had to bow out shortly after that because of surgery and never got back in but I remember well what they did to Jack Ryan. Shameful!
It has been said that it was Axelrod and a crooked judge that got Ryan’s records unsealed. There’s a lot of info at the Real Barack Obama site, it used to be Rezco Watch, you may be familiar, I think that’s where I may have seen it. Also Tom Roeser’s site is newsy and fun, he knows about lots of skeletons. Chicago’s antics are legendary and even though I’m not part of it, it’s embarassing.
Would love to read your book, get busy!
@Missy
Sounds like our paths may have crossed — or have come close.
You definitely know exactly what I am saying without spelling it out. . .it is appalling there. . .my friends in downstate Illinois have even quit voting in state-wide election as they believe their vote does not count anymore.
The Chicago machine runs the state. . .(and an influence in Major Metro areas of Wisconsin, Indiana elections) as you probably well know.
Mark Kirk is ahead in pre-polls but will face stiff competition no matter who he runs against. Competition not with the other candidate. . but the vote manipulation. . .and Obama’s buddy looks like the current favorite dem Senatorial candidate –Alexi Giannoulias. . .
I plan on building a bunker in an undisclosed location and then write the book.
@Missy 27
One last comment on the lawsuit brought about to unseal the Ryan Divorce Papers. I believe you are right in the Axelrod behind-the-scenes-involvement with this shameful “judicial” decision.
The association with Axelrod. . .the suit was brought about by the Chicago Tribune/WLS-TV.
connect the dots. . . Axelrod once upon a time worked as lead political reporter for the Chicago Tribune . . .plus his City Hall job/associations with the big Chicago politicos. . .shameful episode of American politics and judicial travesty.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2295357/posts
—————————–
Maybe someone should have unsealed Ted Kennedy’s divorce papers or publicized Kennedy & Dodd shameful double-dates-sexcapades around DC and other geographical points. . .anyone still think politics is a societally-polite High Tea event ?. . .spend time participating in political campaigns.
@American Voter:
We feel the same but we still do vote. We will be retiring to Missouri soon, looking forward to our votes being counted, that is, if St. Louis and KC are straightened out. Would love to help get rid of McCaskill.
@Missy
I give my friends, in downstate Illinois, grief for not voting in Illinois state-wide elections. However, I am enthused that they are starting to getting involved in local Tea Party/Conservative movements — if for nothing else but to at least find their voice again and realize you can never give up.
As far as McCaskill — what a shame she replaced Jim Talent — a real loss. I wonder if Michael J Fox is going to go off his meds again and create updated tv campaign ads for her in 2010? Wasn’t McCaskill supposed to usher in a new age of miracles through the embryonic stem cell research. . .if she was just elected?
She was elected by a far left push, in addition to the events surrounding election 2004 but has not gone far enough left to pls these supporters — with the right opposition/and insuring a proper voter balloting process — she could be very vulnerable.
As savvy and knowledgeable as you are — I am probably preaching to the choir. . .would be an accomplishment to participate in unseating her and putting in a Senator who actually cared about the people he/she represented. . .