It’s certainly embarrassing when one of your family is charged with doing something wrong.
It’s raised to a higher degree when the principles involved are not just family but the self same individuals.
My point Mike, is that the media hasn’t jumped all over this story about Obama’s half brother, and that is consistent with how these stories I linked to were covered.
Also let me say, before the flame torches get fired up, that Mrs. Bush has not only my, but the whole nations respect, she is a class act. The fact that Bush 43 quit drinking is commendable, most folks with drinking problems don’t have that kind of grit, and it does show a good side of the character he has.
Just pointing out that some folks know where to draw a line regarding fair criticism of others, and some apparently don’t.
mooseburger, agreed – and it’s even worse when your family member hasn’t done anything wrong, and they still attack them. (of course I’m referring to Sarah Palin’s children)
Wonder if they had to post predator signs on the front lawn.
Recently, Biden’s daughter got into a bit of a problem and it wasn’t discussed in here and I think ignoring it was right. When Gore’s son got into trouble I personally thought it unnecessary that his problems should be entered into politics. Same with the Bush twins, Governor Bush’s daughter and the Palin kids. Leave the children of the political families alone, they didn’t ask to live in a fish bowl and I would give the Obama kids the same space.
That said, I think this guy needs to stay put until the legal problems are resolved and for what he has allegedly done, he isn’t getting near the flack from the press the Bush daughters got for minor drinking.
@mooseburger: You cited a report of Bush’s DUI which was released days before the 2000 presidential election and have the nerve to say that ” My point Mike, is that the media hasn’t jumped all over this story about Obama’s half brother, and that is consistent with how these stories I linked to were covered.'”
What bizarre planet do you live on?
That story was front page on newspapers and led newscasts across the land.
You simply proved my point in your lame attempt to refute it.
Better luck next time.
And Missy mentioned Biden’s daughter. I haven’t posted on that either but I’d be willing to bet there was more media coverage of one of Bush’s daughter caught underage drinking than Biden’s daughter caught on tape snorting coke!
Also let me say, before the flame torches get fired up, that Mrs. Bush has not only my, but the whole nations respect, she is a class act.
You respect her so much and she is such a class act that you just couldn’t resist bringing up a tragic car accident in which she ran a stop sign and killed her boyfriend in the other car.
You claim that the media didn’t cover the story regarding Laura Bush when that actually flies in the face of the truth. The incident in question happened in 1963 and was dredged up and gleefully splashed across front pages and newscasts in 2000.
The Bush twins were dragged through the media when they had their various indiscretions as well.
When Obie’s brother gets into trouble….crickets.
Who do you think you’re fooling? Not me.
I agree that Laura Bush is a class act.
You, not so much.
mooseburger
15 years ago
Mike said: That story was front page on newspapers and led newscasts across the land.
#1 the story was about Bush himself, the new president, and not about his half brother.
#2 The life of that story was short, and certainly overshadowed by the Florida recount
#3 You don’t cite any proof that this was big front page headlines and led newscasts for any significant amount of time. It got the coverage it deserved and was quickly over with
#4 Most people of whatever political view had enough respect for Mrs. Bush not to push such a story. Some folks have so little respect for President Obama that they would employ any means to foster their agenda against him, even his family.
Like I said, Just pointing out that some folks know where to draw a line regarding fair criticism of others, and some apparently don’t.
sarainitaly: Regarding the Palin kids, agreed, that is a glaring example that has gone on for too long, kids most of all should be off limits. Another example of no respect in order to foster an agenda against someone.
Aye Said;
“@mooseburger:
Also let me say, before the flame torches get fired up, that Mrs. Bush has not only my, but the whole nations respect, she is a class act.
You respect her so much and she is such a class act that you just couldn’t resist bringing up a tragic car accident in which she ran a stop sign and killed her boyfriend in the other car.”
Aye: I have offered my opinion here many times of late, You have challenged me time and again to cite the proof on which my opinion is based, as has Mike. I don’t mind doing so if opinion alone is not enough to provoke a respectful debate. You can’t have it both ways, pal.
@mooseburger: Instead of wisely remaining silent when your moonbattery and obvious deficiency in memory was revealed you simply dig in your high heels and continue spouting.
You cited Bush’s DUI and claimed it was a minor story. You must be high.
Clearly my conclusion regarding this Obama story stands. Change the name to Bush and it’s worldwide headlines. Obama and no big deal.
Keep sputtering mossyburger. It’s so entertaining to watch those two brain cells of your spin like pinwheels.
40+ year old brothers who sexually assault children and get private tours to the WH, who lived illegally for 7 years in UK, and are now banned from entering the UK, should not.
Mike, I said that the Bush story got the attention it deserved and was quickly over with.
Your use of personal insults is normally a good 50% of your responses with those you disagree with. If this is representative of where most Conservatives stand, then I don’t blame the Democrats and the majority of Americans who voted to toss Conservatives out of power for ramming their agenda down your throats. It’s hard to reason with unreasonable people.
Mike and Aye: I don’t take our disagreement personal, but it sure seems like you two do. Mike called me moonyburger or something like that in another thread, I responded in kind back and he promptly deleted it. So, I’m guilty too. I’ll try not to act like were in 4th grade if you can do the same , agreed?
@mooseburger: If you knew the first thing about the damage that Busy DUI story you deem inconsequential had you would know that it nearly threw the election in 2000 and that it may have been the reason that Florida 2000 became such a huge issue.
I just wonder how old you are that your memory can be so deficient?
How long has it been since you were in the 4th grade?
mooseburger
15 years ago
Mike, in truth, your memory may indeed be better than mine in 2000. It’s not because I have a bad memory, at the time I just didn’t follow all the news stories to the degree that I have a chance to now. A divorce and ensuing custody battle in mid ’99 made the politics take the back burner. I didn’t have cable TV, retained custody and raised my two kids, worked 50-60 hrs every week, and focused on my kids at the time. I only had the local paper, and the Indianapolis Star mostly back then, and most of the time fell asleep reading it.
It’s been a damn long time since I was in 4th grade, Mike, lol
I’m happy to concede the point if your memory is better than mine on the Bush DUI story Mike. I looked through the Net, and found very little hard news sources besides blogs and other gossip type sites about the Bush story. That is where I drew my conclusion.
One other point, off topic as it is. I know I am taking my chances when I post on this site. My views run counter to some folks who run this site. I see a few who come and throw a few bombs, then run for cover. This probably conditions some here to think that most who offer an opposing point of view are the same way. I enjoy a good political debate, and have tried to teach my kids to be involved in politics and how important is for their future to understand both sides of an issue. That’s why I choose to hang here some, and not the Daily Kos. If I don’t keep the two brain cells I have left stimulated, I might be in even worse shape.
Time Traveller
15 years ago
Mooseburger – You must report back to the Master immediately& get new instructions.
This “oh so pained to explain to you” style is that used by bored counsellors to the recidivist re education campers .
George Orwell would love it.
mooseburger
15 years ago
damn, now I have to go back and get new instructions, we will keep plotting until we infiltrate! BWAHHH!!
Hard Right
15 years ago
Moose, I remember the DUI story vividly. The media played the hell out of it.
They also spewed claims of cocaine abuse…..by a known liar. Not that they
examined those claims at all. They just ran with it.
luva the scissors
15 years ago
nothing seems to touch obama, his auntie, his brother, his other brother. what the hell. to me this is very disturbing, wonder if he made sure his brother wasn’t alone with his precious girls? i do agree that children should be off limits, i think what the media did to the bush twins was terrible, what they did to palins kids was even more so. brothers, wives and adult family members are fair game as far as i am concerned. id o wonder why this really hasn’t gotten any play. if it had been bush’s second cousin twice removed we would have heard it sung from the roof tops.
@mooseburger: Your comment above sounds suspiciously like one of those sheepish non-apology apologies.
As you may have learned, I have paid keen and close attention to every presidential contest for decades. And that goes double for the 2000 election.
Your stubbornness in persisting with your weak understanding of the impact of the 2000 DUI story is typical of liberals. You just keep trying to ram the story line even when it is obviously a non starter.
And you wonder why I lose my patience and begin ridiculing you?
I don’t have a problem with people challenging my views as long as their challenge is well informed.
I’m sure you will do better next time now that we’ve had this little chat.
What would one expect, one foot out of the jungle and another on a banana peel. He does seem to have problems with his relatives, was his father a mau mau with a whistle in his mouth and a mochette in his hand and a love for chopping up white settlers. Much remains to be learned about the man from Hawaii or was it Kenya.
Actually, there was quite a bit of coverage on Biden’s daughter. However, there does seem to be some doubt as to whether or not it’s really her on the video. In any case, it’s a scheme for someone to try and make a few bucks, which is even more disgusting than a young person’s experimental habits…
Actually I’m not sure who is the worse of the Obama brothers. The aggressive pedophile one or the one who is destroying America and world freedom right now.
Interesting that the Obamafoot-licking big media hardly gave this any mention.
FedUp
15 years ago
I’m sure that Michelle is soooooo proud of her in-laws!
http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/e1698.htm
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/02/bush.dui/
It’s certainly embarrassing when one of your family is charged with doing something wrong.
It’s raised to a higher degree when the principles involved are not just family but the self same individuals.
My point Mike, is that the media hasn’t jumped all over this story about Obama’s half brother, and that is consistent with how these stories I linked to were covered.
Also let me say, before the flame torches get fired up, that Mrs. Bush has not only my, but the whole nations respect, she is a class act. The fact that Bush 43 quit drinking is commendable, most folks with drinking problems don’t have that kind of grit, and it does show a good side of the character he has.
Just pointing out that some folks know where to draw a line regarding fair criticism of others, and some apparently don’t.
And isn’t it nice to know that he jumped on a plane and flew to DC, where he got a private tour of the WH and attended the inauguration?
I thought perhaps this might explain the crappy DVD gift Obama gave Brown… haha
mooseburger, agreed – and it’s even worse when your family member hasn’t done anything wrong, and they still attack them. (of course I’m referring to Sarah Palin’s children)
@sarainitaly:
Wonder if they had to post predator signs on the front lawn.
Recently, Biden’s daughter got into a bit of a problem and it wasn’t discussed in here and I think ignoring it was right. When Gore’s son got into trouble I personally thought it unnecessary that his problems should be entered into politics. Same with the Bush twins, Governor Bush’s daughter and the Palin kids. Leave the children of the political families alone, they didn’t ask to live in a fish bowl and I would give the Obama kids the same space.
That said, I think this guy needs to stay put until the legal problems are resolved and for what he has allegedly done, he isn’t getting near the flack from the press the Bush daughters got for minor drinking.
@mooseburger: You cited a report of Bush’s DUI which was released days before the 2000 presidential election and have the nerve to say that ” My point Mike, is that the media hasn’t jumped all over this story about Obama’s half brother, and that is consistent with how these stories I linked to were covered.'”
What bizarre planet do you live on?
That story was front page on newspapers and led newscasts across the land.
You simply proved my point in your lame attempt to refute it.
Better luck next time.
And Missy mentioned Biden’s daughter. I haven’t posted on that either but I’d be willing to bet there was more media coverage of one of Bush’s daughter caught underage drinking than Biden’s daughter caught on tape snorting coke!
I remember tons of MSM coverage when the Bush twins got in trouble. It was covered by everyone, but nary a peep on Biden’s daughter.
“Wonder if they had to post predator signs on the front lawn” on the WH lawn? haha
Seriously, if I were BO, I would be careful about letting him around my kids.
@mooseburger:
You respect her so much and she is such a class act that you just couldn’t resist bringing up a tragic car accident in which she ran a stop sign and killed her boyfriend in the other car.
You claim that the media didn’t cover the story regarding Laura Bush when that actually flies in the face of the truth. The incident in question happened in 1963 and was dredged up and gleefully splashed across front pages and newscasts in 2000.
The Bush twins were dragged through the media when they had their various indiscretions as well.
When Obie’s brother gets into trouble….crickets.
Who do you think you’re fooling? Not me.
I agree that Laura Bush is a class act.
You, not so much.
Mike said: That story was front page on newspapers and led newscasts across the land.
#1 the story was about Bush himself, the new president, and not about his half brother.
#2 The life of that story was short, and certainly overshadowed by the Florida recount
#3 You don’t cite any proof that this was big front page headlines and led newscasts for any significant amount of time. It got the coverage it deserved and was quickly over with
#4 Most people of whatever political view had enough respect for Mrs. Bush not to push such a story. Some folks have so little respect for President Obama that they would employ any means to foster their agenda against him, even his family.
Like I said, Just pointing out that some folks know where to draw a line regarding fair criticism of others, and some apparently don’t.
sarainitaly: Regarding the Palin kids, agreed, that is a glaring example that has gone on for too long, kids most of all should be off limits. Another example of no respect in order to foster an agenda against someone.
Aye Said;
“@mooseburger:
Also let me say, before the flame torches get fired up, that Mrs. Bush has not only my, but the whole nations respect, she is a class act.
You respect her so much and she is such a class act that you just couldn’t resist bringing up a tragic car accident in which she ran a stop sign and killed her boyfriend in the other car.”
Aye: I have offered my opinion here many times of late, You have challenged me time and again to cite the proof on which my opinion is based, as has Mike. I don’t mind doing so if opinion alone is not enough to provoke a respectful debate. You can’t have it both ways, pal.
@mooseburger: Instead of wisely remaining silent when your moonbattery and obvious deficiency in memory was revealed you simply dig in your high heels and continue spouting.
You cited Bush’s DUI and claimed it was a minor story. You must be high.
Clearly my conclusion regarding this Obama story stands. Change the name to Bush and it’s worldwide headlines. Obama and no big deal.
Keep sputtering mossyburger. It’s so entertaining to watch those two brain cells of your spin like pinwheels.
all kids should be off limits.
40+ year old brothers who sexually assault children and get private tours to the WH, who lived illegally for 7 years in UK, and are now banned from entering the UK, should not.
@mooseburger:
Your post claimed that the DUI story as well as the story of the car accident were not given much media attention.
That claim is just patently false.
How, exactly, am I trying to have it both ways?
@Mike’s America:
You’re overestimating moose by half.
Mike, I said that the Bush story got the attention it deserved and was quickly over with.
Your use of personal insults is normally a good 50% of your responses with those you disagree with. If this is representative of where most Conservatives stand, then I don’t blame the Democrats and the majority of Americans who voted to toss Conservatives out of power for ramming their agenda down your throats. It’s hard to reason with unreasonable people.
Mike and Aye: I don’t take our disagreement personal, but it sure seems like you two do. Mike called me moonyburger or something like that in another thread, I responded in kind back and he promptly deleted it. So, I’m guilty too. I’ll try not to act like were in 4th grade if you can do the same , agreed?
@mooseburger: If you knew the first thing about the damage that Busy DUI story you deem inconsequential had you would know that it nearly threw the election in 2000 and that it may have been the reason that Florida 2000 became such a huge issue.
I just wonder how old you are that your memory can be so deficient?
How long has it been since you were in the 4th grade?
Mike, in truth, your memory may indeed be better than mine in 2000. It’s not because I have a bad memory, at the time I just didn’t follow all the news stories to the degree that I have a chance to now. A divorce and ensuing custody battle in mid ’99 made the politics take the back burner. I didn’t have cable TV, retained custody and raised my two kids, worked 50-60 hrs every week, and focused on my kids at the time. I only had the local paper, and the Indianapolis Star mostly back then, and most of the time fell asleep reading it.
It’s been a damn long time since I was in 4th grade, Mike, lol
I’m happy to concede the point if your memory is better than mine on the Bush DUI story Mike. I looked through the Net, and found very little hard news sources besides blogs and other gossip type sites about the Bush story. That is where I drew my conclusion.
One other point, off topic as it is. I know I am taking my chances when I post on this site. My views run counter to some folks who run this site. I see a few who come and throw a few bombs, then run for cover. This probably conditions some here to think that most who offer an opposing point of view are the same way. I enjoy a good political debate, and have tried to teach my kids to be involved in politics and how important is for their future to understand both sides of an issue. That’s why I choose to hang here some, and not the Daily Kos. If I don’t keep the two brain cells I have left stimulated, I might be in even worse shape.
Mooseburger – You must report back to the Master immediately& get new instructions.
This “oh so pained to explain to you” style is that used by bored counsellors to the recidivist re education campers .
George Orwell would love it.
damn, now I have to go back and get new instructions, we will keep plotting until we infiltrate! BWAHHH!!
Moose, I remember the DUI story vividly. The media played the hell out of it.
They also spewed claims of cocaine abuse…..by a known liar. Not that they
examined those claims at all. They just ran with it.
nothing seems to touch obama, his auntie, his brother, his other brother. what the hell. to me this is very disturbing, wonder if he made sure his brother wasn’t alone with his precious girls? i do agree that children should be off limits, i think what the media did to the bush twins was terrible, what they did to palins kids was even more so. brothers, wives and adult family members are fair game as far as i am concerned. id o wonder why this really hasn’t gotten any play. if it had been bush’s second cousin twice removed we would have heard it sung from the roof tops.
@mooseburger: Your comment above sounds suspiciously like one of those sheepish non-apology apologies.
As you may have learned, I have paid keen and close attention to every presidential contest for decades. And that goes double for the 2000 election.
Your stubbornness in persisting with your weak understanding of the impact of the 2000 DUI story is typical of liberals. You just keep trying to ram the story line even when it is obviously a non starter.
And you wonder why I lose my patience and begin ridiculing you?
I don’t have a problem with people challenging my views as long as their challenge is well informed.
I’m sure you will do better next time now that we’ve had this little chat.
What would one expect, one foot out of the jungle and another on a banana peel. He does seem to have problems with his relatives, was his father a mau mau with a whistle in his mouth and a mochette in his hand and a love for chopping up white settlers. Much remains to be learned about the man from Hawaii or was it Kenya.
@sarainitaly:
Actually, there was quite a bit of coverage on Biden’s daughter. However, there does seem to be some doubt as to whether or not it’s really her on the video. In any case, it’s a scheme for someone to try and make a few bucks, which is even more disgusting than a young person’s experimental habits…
http://www.nypost.com/seven/03282009/news/nationalnews/friend_of_bidens_daughter_shopping_tape__161772.htm
Actually I’m not sure who is the worse of the Obama brothers. The aggressive pedophile one or the one who is destroying America and world freedom right now.
Interesting that the Obamafoot-licking big media hardly gave this any mention.
I’m sure that Michelle is soooooo proud of her in-laws!