Today is much nicer than before, there is same land and same people. you can’t feel fire from far, don’t listen to media and find it yourself.
alan walter
15 years ago
One of the thousands of stories in Shah land before the Islamic Revolution. The chamber of commerce utuber of Iran in the ’70s means as much as a contemporary tourism effort for Ciudad Juarez:
I was in Iran the year before the Shah fell. We had been doing business for years before that. Iran was slowly becoming a Western country, opening up to freedom, the Islamic horror show was being swept aside.
Then came Carter and the Islamic horrors came back in force.
Never went back.
Iran was never Islamic in recent memory, until the Mullah’s took over … Iran and Iranians were Persians and spoke Farsi. Sad to watch it happen.
alan walter
15 years ago
I’m Sorry, bill-tb, but I can’t let your comments go unchallenged. I was in Iran in the early ’70s. Yes, there were clear indications of westernization in Tehran and Tabriz and a few other cities (lovely women with long hair, silk blouses and tight skirts strolling past shops displaying western fashions, for example). But the countryside was controlled by the Mullahs, admonishing the faithful to adhere to strict Islamic codes.
bill-tb, I believe you’re clumsily equating Islam with Arabs. Iran has been Islamic since the 7th century. They’ve always spoken Persian, whether they were professing Zoroastrianism, Mithraism or Islam. Persia was the name of the country before it was called Iran, which was also the name of the country before it was known as Persia. Full circle.
The Shah was reviled by those who suffered under his repressive regime. Carter made a last-ditch effort to salvage the Shah’s throne, but the opposition was too strong. Islam is a force the USA cannot control and will not destroy. We must learn that lesson before it is too late.
Good reason why it’s best to keep state and religion apart – you don’t want the religious nuts running a country. They will try to ban anything they find inappropriate and doesn’t fall in line with their myths. Recommend watching ‘Persepolis’ animation and for Afghanistan – in a similar vein – the book ‘A Thousand Splendid Suns’ by Khaled Hosseini (he wrote the Kite Runner) and finally ‘Infidel’ by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Fortunately over the centuries the West matured enough to throw off the shackles of Christianity becoming directly involved in running a country- and it is pretty much sidelined today – let’s hope the Middle East can reject Islam and Theocracy in it’s countries. Religion should stay in people’s make believe worlds and in their places of worship – not in the government offices and forced into people’s homes, workplaces and in every aspect of their lives whether they want it or not.
marinemom
15 years ago
One Nation Under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for ALL
Today is much nicer than before, there is same land and same people. you can’t feel fire from far, don’t listen to media and find it yourself.
One of the thousands of stories in Shah land before the Islamic Revolution. The chamber of commerce utuber of Iran in the ’70s means as much as a contemporary tourism effort for Ciudad Juarez:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hossein_Shariatmadari
What ye sow so shall ye reap:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
I was in Iran the year before the Shah fell. We had been doing business for years before that. Iran was slowly becoming a Western country, opening up to freedom, the Islamic horror show was being swept aside.
Then came Carter and the Islamic horrors came back in force.
Never went back.
Iran was never Islamic in recent memory, until the Mullah’s took over … Iran and Iranians were Persians and spoke Farsi. Sad to watch it happen.
I’m Sorry, bill-tb, but I can’t let your comments go unchallenged. I was in Iran in the early ’70s. Yes, there were clear indications of westernization in Tehran and Tabriz and a few other cities (lovely women with long hair, silk blouses and tight skirts strolling past shops displaying western fashions, for example). But the countryside was controlled by the Mullahs, admonishing the faithful to adhere to strict Islamic codes.
bill-tb, I believe you’re clumsily equating Islam with Arabs. Iran has been Islamic since the 7th century. They’ve always spoken Persian, whether they were professing Zoroastrianism, Mithraism or Islam. Persia was the name of the country before it was called Iran, which was also the name of the country before it was known as Persia. Full circle.
The Shah was reviled by those who suffered under his repressive regime. Carter made a last-ditch effort to salvage the Shah’s throne, but the opposition was too strong. Islam is a force the USA cannot control and will not destroy. We must learn that lesson before it is too late.
Good reason why it’s best to keep state and religion apart – you don’t want the religious nuts running a country. They will try to ban anything they find inappropriate and doesn’t fall in line with their myths. Recommend watching ‘Persepolis’ animation and for Afghanistan – in a similar vein – the book ‘A Thousand Splendid Suns’ by Khaled Hosseini (he wrote the Kite Runner) and finally ‘Infidel’ by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.
Fortunately over the centuries the West matured enough to throw off the shackles of Christianity becoming directly involved in running a country- and it is pretty much sidelined today – let’s hope the Middle East can reject Islam and Theocracy in it’s countries. Religion should stay in people’s make believe worlds and in their places of worship – not in the government offices and forced into people’s homes, workplaces and in every aspect of their lives whether they want it or not.
One Nation Under God Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for ALL