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Newsbusters has reported that the father of Sgt. Ryan David Jopek had requested Obama to stop wearing his son’s KIA bracelet.

Barack Obama played the “me too” game during the Friday debates on September 26 after Senator John McCain mentioned that he was wearing a bracelet with the name of Cpl. Matthew Stanley, a resident of New Hampshire and a soldier that lost his life in Iraq in 2006. Obama said that he too had a bracelet. After fumbling and straining to remember the name, he revealed that his had the name of Sergeant Ryan David Jopek of Merrill, Wisconsin.

Shockingly, however, Madison resident Brian Jopek, the father of Ryan Jopek, the young soldier who tragically lost his life to a roadside bomb in 2006, recently said on a Wisconsin Public Radio show that his family had asked Barack Obama to stop wearing the bracelet with his son’s name on it. Yet Obama continues to do so despite the wishes of the family.

I am deeply disturbed by this. Although this is not a new occurrence, the families of dead soldiers have had their request for their deceased loved ones names to be removed from anti war exhibits coldly denied:

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More here:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/bracelet-wars.html

Perhaps there is more to this story, Obama may not know the change of heart. Let’s follow the story to find out.

More to this story? With hundreds of advisors, they missed this MINOR point?

Of course, he was unaware….logical excuse.

More importantly, Obama thinks that if a person dies following their commander’s orders, then they don’t die in vain. Um, maybe it’s me, but I’m kinda thinking that’s a bit egotistical, and it begs the question I’ve asked before, “Is Senator Obama ready to order people to kill and/or be killed for him?”

I say no way, and the very second he finishes taking the oath of office…soldiers, Marines, and airmen will be killing at being killed for him (remember, he thinks they don’t die in vain if they die for him-Constitution, country, family, friends, values, rights of man, morales, nah…that’s all second to whether or not they die for him; the CinC).

She had told me that in an email that she had asked, actually asked Mr. Obama to not wear the bracelet anymore at any of his public appearances.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/bracelet-wars.html

Perhaps, Doug, the Obama campaign has some explaining to do….

Campaign email person will be thrown under the bus. Obama to issue half-hearted apology through spokesperson. Film at 11.

I think Hot Air actually makes a good solid point in taking caution on how hard to push this for political points:

It’s possible that they have changed their minds again, and not unlikely, given the family’s support for Obama. Jopek is divorced from his wife and may not have been speaking for her. If Tracy Jopek wanted Obama to continue to use the bracelet to make this case, or changed her mind about him stopping, then Obama did nothing wrong.

However, if the Jopeks did ask him to stop wearing the bracelet and stop talking about it on the campaign trail, it’s disrespectful for Obama to continue to do so. He should have honored their wishes and used a different example. Obama could have talked about Cindy Sheehan’s loss if he was desperate for one, but there are other Gold Star families who oppose the war and probably would support Obama’s use of their loss as a campaign talking point.

Since this interview was six months ago, we should wait for the Jopeks to say whether they object to the use of the bracelet by Obama. Obama’s use of the bracelet was obviously planned, and I’d have a hard time believing that no one would have thought to check with the Jopeks first.

We should tread carefully in regards to trying to score political points at the expense of military families. I’m guessing Tracy, an Obama supporter, would rather not see her son’s memory politicized by either side.

The father, btw, served a year in Iraq as well. You can read more about Sgt. Ryan Jopek here.

Brian Jopek’s radio interview is available in mp3 format here:

[audio src="http://clipcast.wpr.org:8080/ramgen/wpr/wau/rt51080329_iraqwar5years.mp3" /]

Cheers

Doug1,

It seems to me that those buckets would eventually get too heavy to carry.

Even for you.

What I was surprised about was Obama letting McCain get away with saying he supports the veterans. In the past 7 years he has voted against veterans benefits at least 10 times.
Old man McCain was lying through his teeth again… or maybe he forgot how he votes??

In the past 7 years he has voted against veterans benefits at least 10 times.

Show me.

It better not be the lefty talking points cut-and-paste memo list.

Real American Basher:

Poor you! Can’t get one fact right, can you? No wonder you will be voting for the worst enemy America has ever had: OBAMA

Got to see that Real American Basher: http://vets4mccain.com/

Maybe this will cure your ignorance.

I was amazed when I watched Obama go, “I have a bracelet too,” like some kind of kid who just couldn’t sit by and not go, “me too, me too.” And, then not to remember the young man’s name. The mom sounds like she is kind of out there. She gives Obama a bracelet but doesn’t want him to mention it or wear it. And, she is worried about her own grief (of other mothers) instead of her son’s incredible memory (from what I read, the young man believed in the military). McCain’s mention of the bracelet he wore was… not to have them die in vain – because the soldier’s mom did not want her son’s death to be for nothing.

My dad served two different times in VietNam. I remember it well as a little girl. And, to this day has a hard time with the loss of men in his unit and the loss of the war. McCain’s point was valid and so true. Not to let this war end the same way. Obama has been allowed to contradict himself and flip-flop throughout this campaign. Biden has made gaffe after gaffe but the only ones the media are interesed in are Gov. Palin’s. Oh, that’s just “Joe being Joe.” Basically, the idiot being the idiot. We can accept it because afterall, he is from an Ivy league school and has met a foreign leader.

There really is no contest this election between McCain and Obama. The choices are clear and obvious. What amazes me is that people still want Obama. All the gaffes (there are 57 states, etc.), lack of history (or vetting by the MSM), the charges of racism if you don’t want him, the corruption, the hate American crowd, preference by terrrorist for the man… how can anyone really vote Obama/Biden?

A man of honor or a man of dishonor. How could it not be more clear?

America is at war all around the globe-even here at home. Do we want to be led by a warrior or a lawyer? A man who has literally given everything he has save his last breath for this country-blood, bones, and pain among the least of his sacrifices…or a lawyer?

I’ve given up on Obama. His personal arrogance is awful. Ever since he abandoned the campaign of HOPE and CHANGE and became just another politician, ever since he proved that he CAN NOT UNITE the nation (let alone his own party!)….nah, he’s spent in my book.

At least if he’s elected, Flopping Aces will never EVER be short of material.

“At least if he’s elected, Flopping Aces will never EVER be short of material.” (Scott)

That’s the best case scenario. But it could be worst… he could send his goons… send you his “Truth Squad” and close this site.

Here is the video:
MISSOURI “TRUTH SQUADS” TO PROTECT….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIenDGSAdPA

LOL… what a bunch of idiot paranos!

GOV. BLUNT STATEMENT ON OBAMA CAMPAIGN’S ABUSIVE USE OF MISSOURI LAW ENFORCEMENT

JEFFERSON CITY – Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics….

Read the rest:
http://governor.mo.gov/cgi-bin/coranto/viewnews.cgi?id=EkkkVFulkpOzXqGMaj&style=Default+News+Style&tmpl=newsitem

Jopek acknowledged e-mailing the Obama campaign in February asking that the presidential candidate not mention her son in speeches or debates. But she said Obama’s mention on Friday was appropriate

So she has been against it since February when she specifically asked zerO to NOT mention it.

Suddenly, in September, when zerO goes against her wishes again, it’s OK.

Now, that right there my friends is a person of conviction.

No wonder she supports zerO.

I have to say a commenter on Hot Air called it:

The Jopeks will categorically deny the story is true and affirm their support for the Messiah. The Drive-By media will spin this into soundbites that vilify the McCain campaign for questioning the patriotism of the parents of a young man who died needlessly in an unjust war.

ManlyRash on September 28, 2008 at 11:13 AM

With one exception: In this case only the MOTHER is affirming her support after asking Barak to remove the bracelet, what about the father? This is turning into a Casey Sheehan redux.

Aye I was hoping you would say that. Here are the veterans benefit bills McCain voted against.

In February 2006, McCain voted against an amendment that would have provided for at least $19 billion for military health facilities.
*Senate Amendment 2735, Amendment failed.

McCain voted against a 2006 Democratic amendment that would have provided $2.8 billion to increase veterans’ medical care.
*Senate Amendment 149, Amendment failed.

McCain voted against an Amendment to establish a $1 billion trust fund to provide improvements to health facilities that treat veterans and military personnel paid for by allowing dividends and capital gains tax breaks, for those with incomes greater than $1 million to lapse on December 31, 2006.
*Senate Amendment 2735

McCain voted against an Amendment offered by Democrats to increase medical services funding to veterans by $1.5 billion in 2007, to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
*Senate Amendment 3007

McCain voted against a Democratic amendment to provide a mandatory stream of funding of $6.9 billion in Fiscal Year 2007 and $104 billion over five years for veterans’ health care; paid for by restoring the pre-2001 top tax rate for incomes over $1 million and closing various corporate tax loopholes.
Senate Amendment 3141

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. *Senate Amendment 2909

April 2006: McCain one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430 million for Medical Services for the Department of Veteran Affairs for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

Despite his vote against, it passed overwhelmingly, 84-13 (3 not voting). All 13 voting against were Republicans.
*Senate Amendment 3642

October 2003: McCain voted against an amendment offered by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322 million for safety equipment for troops in Iraq.
*Senate Amendment 1817

April 2003: McCain voted against an amendment that would have provided more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.
*Senate Amendment 452

August 2001: McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650 million.
*Senate Amendment 1218

In February 2006, McCain voted against an amendment that would have provided for at least $19 billion for military health facilities.
*Senate Amendment 2735, Amendment failed.

Yeah, this bill was actually an effort to raise taxes (“roll back” in newspeak), and McCain wasn’t in support of that.

McCain voted against a 2006 Democratic amendment that would have provided $2.8 billion to increase veterans’ medical care.
*Senate Amendment 149, Amendment failed.

Sec7 of that bill shows that the bill itself might have included 2.8bill for veterans medical care, but the part he voted against was about how many kids could go to private schools w Federal subsidy.

McCain voted against an Amendment to establish a $1 billion trust fund to provide improvements to health facilities that treat veterans and military personnel paid for by allowing dividends and capital gains tax breaks, for those with incomes greater than $1 million to lapse on December 31, 2006.
*Senate Amendment 2735

Again, a Dem bill aimed at increasing taxes

McCain voted against an Amendment offered by Democrats to increase medical services funding to veterans by $1.5 billion in 2007, to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes.
*Senate Amendment 3007

This Dem bill tried to raise taxes on investors at a time (like now) when investment is declining and needs to be encouraged.

McCain voted against a Democratic amendment to provide a mandatory stream of funding of $6.9 billion in Fiscal Year 2007 and $104 billion over five years for veterans’ health care; paid for by restoring the pre-2001 top tax rate for incomes over $1 million and closing various corporate tax loopholes.
Senate Amendment 3141

Another Dem attempt at raising taxes

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. *Senate Amendment 2909

This was one of the many attempts by the Democrats’ Congress to put a timeline on success in Iraq (as if any war has ever been fought-let alone won-on a timeline).

April 2006: McCain one of only 13 Senators to vote against $430 million for Medical Services for the Department of Veteran Affairs for outpatient care and treatment for veterans.

Another attempt by Dems to raise taxes.

Despite his vote against, it passed overwhelmingly, 84-13 (3 not voting). All 13 voting against were Republicans.
*Senate Amendment 3642

If you go back and read the bill, this was about making anyone who ever got a purple heart mandatorily classed as disabled despite the fact that many recipient’s wounds did not disable them (see also Sen John Kerry).

October 2003: McCain voted against an amendment offered by Senator Dodd that called for an additional $322 million for safety equipment for troops in Iraq.
*Senate Amendment 1817

The “safety equipment” isn’t described or specified, but the money for whatever was to be called “safety equipment” was to be pulled directly from reconstruction funds. In Oct03 (this was before the insurgency got going), reconstruction was a priority. Gotta say, this one took some looking up. There were 2 other items in the amendment, and both were efforts by Democrats to cut funding for reconstruction. The first was an effort to cut funding for rebuilding Iraq’s security forces (ie, directly undermine the war), and the second was an effort to cut private sector development in Iraq (where a state-controlled dictatorship had ruled for 30yrs and there was almost no private sector).

April 2003: McCain voted against an amendment that would have provided more than $1 billion for National Guard and Reserve equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests.
*Senate Amendment 452

Dunno where you got this, but it looks like the record shows that Sen McCain voted yea. “I strongly support it.”
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=108&session=1&vote=00116

August 2001: McCain voted against increasing the amount available for medical care for veterans by $650 million.
*Senate Amendment 1218

There are caveats in the amendment that actually limit veterans benefits. My guess is all those “provided that…” kinda caveats were what made him vote against it (thank goodness!)
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?r107:1:./temp/~r107WhdEfD:e1204:
However, in the long run Sen McCain DID vote in support of the bill itself
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00263

Curious RAP…did you just cut/paste someone else’s propaganda, or did you look these things up yourself, ’cause if it’s the latter, then you need to learn how to read instead of mislead.

DNC controlled congress since 2006 and those first 2 democratic sponsored bills failed.
I guess that means the bills were so bad even the democrats didn’t vote for it.

Aye I was hoping you would say that. Here are the veterans benefit bills McCain voted against.

Gee….never seen this before. [/sarcasm] (Actually, haven’t you posted this list before here?)

RAP, do you agree with the charge from McCain that Obama voted against funding our troops? Technically, Obama did vote against a bill, but his reason wasn’t to leave troops unfunded, was it? Then why would you buy into the notion that McCain voted against Veterans benefits, rather than examine the reason for his vote? Distortions coming from either side is an ugly thing, and you should be better than this smear push. You’re a Democrat, aren’t you? Act like one.

*evil grin*

September 2007: McCain voted against the Webb amendment calling for adequate troop rest between deployments. *Senate Amendment 2909

This was one of the many attempts by the Democrats’ Congress to put a timeline on success in Iraq (as if any war has ever been fought-let alone won-on a timeline).

I’d like to add to Scott’s comment on this, that McCain supported an alternate bill, one that would encourage the retention rate when the Webb bill would undermine it. The military pours a lot of investment into the training of officers; when the pay in the private sector can be so much better, the temptation to leave….how can the military compete on the motivation of “patriotic duty” and “love of service” alone? They need to “reward” and provide incentives for those who stay in longer. If you want a fair analysis of the two G.I. bills, read CJ’s take. As someone directly affected, he took a serious look at both bills.

I don’t understand.

Why would the mother give Barack Obama the bracelet if she didnt want him to wear it????

Why did the father go on a radio station to make such a big deal out of it????

This whole thing sounds more like a he said, she said thing.

What makes me angry is that everybody is ganging up on Barack, when it was JOHN MCAIN who brought the bracelet thing up at the debate.

All Barack did, was say he had one too.

What’s wrong with that???

It amazes me that Barack’s the one who is “exploting” his bracelet and he’s the “bad guy”.

When it was JOHN MCAIN who made the case of having a bracelet FIRST!

Just goes to show you the hyporcrites are in this country.

All Barack did, was say he had one too.

………..*snicker*

Aye I was hoping you would say that. Here are the veterans benefit bills McCain voted against.

Ah yes, Sky55110.

I accomplished exactly what I set out to do.

I knew that you would respond as you did with another brainless edition of your copy/paste routine.

All I had to do was dangle the bait in your direction just a little. I knew you’d take it.

Hook. Line. Sinker.

Have you ever had an independent thought?

Have you ever applied an analytical approach to anything that you see before you?

Is it truly your belief that McCain should vote “yes” to every single bill that comes up just because vets would benefit and damn the consequences? Even when those measures are not Constitutional?

Did you really think that you would be able to post that crap here without it being challenged? Did you?

Idiot.

It took Scott and Wordsmith mere moments to do the analysis that you were simply too lazy to do.

You, sir, are vapid.

You, sir, did exactly what I knew that you would do just as I knew that you would deny your involvement in those two dating sites.

You know how I knew?

Because you have a track record here. You have no backbone. You don’t even have the spine to post under your original screen name.

You copy/paste then cut and run.

You have no intellectual honesty and even less integrity.

Everyone here sees you for what you are.

Everyone.

Let me be the first to tell you on this lovely Monday afternoon that you’re nothing more than a brainless, ball-less, pontificating pusillanimous pissant.

Surely in the interest of correcting political propaganda and bolstering the truth, RAP will go back to where the cut/paste stemmed and correct their ignorance or deceit. Right?

I don’t understand.

Did you read the post, click on any links, read previous comments, do some easy research first?

Why would the mother give Barack Obama the bracelet if she didnt want him to wear it????

It’s not about her not wanting him to wear it. It appears that she just doesn’t want her son’s memory politicized.

Why did the father go on a radio station to make such a big deal out of it????

Read:

After pointing out that he and Tracy are not married anymore, Brian says that “from what I understood from email exchanges with Tracy….she wanted to put a name, she wanted Sen. Obama to know Ryan’s name…She wasn’t looking to turn it into a big media event…She just wanted it to be something between Barack Obama and herself.”

What’s so difficult to understand here?

What makes me angry is that everybody is ganging up on Barack, when it was JOHN MCAIN who brought the bracelet thing up at the debate.

What makes it a “big deal”, is if Barack feels the compulsion to repeatedly mention the bracelet and Sgt. Jopek for political gain, as an indictment of the War, doing so while knowing it is the expressed wish of Tracy (an Obama supporter) as well as Brian (who sounds more like a McCain man) that he not do so. If he truly wants to honor the memory of Jopek, he’d respect the wishes of the family to cease and desist.

The radio interview was around 6 months ago. Has he received word of it? (by now, I’m sure he has). Has Tracy or Brian sent an email or written a letter asking him to stop? I’m not sure. How many times on the campaign trail has Obama brought up the bracelet story?

All Barack did, was say he had one too.

What’s wrong with that???

What is he….like, 4 years old?

It amazes me that Barack’s the one who is “exploting” his bracelet and he’s the “bad guy”.

When it was JOHN MCAIN who made the case of having a bracelet FIRST!

McCain was given the bracelet by a parent who wants victory so that her son’s sacrifice isn’t in vain; who wants the troops to come home with honor. McCain is the candidate who fundamentally understands this. Don’t you see a difference?

Just goes to show you the hyporcrites are in this country.

No, it just reveals your lack of seeing the distinction.

Aye I was hoping you would say that. Here are the veterans benefit bills McCain voted against.

Gee….never seen this before. [/sarcasm] (Actually, haven’t you posted this list before here?)

Why, yes, Wordsmith. Yes, he has.

Here.

And here.

Third time’s the charm is what they say.

@Word smith

What is your problem???? I don’t understand why you had to comment on my post.

All I’m doing is speaking my opinion.

As for my lack of seing “distinction.”

Go FUCK yourself you hyporcrite!

It is obvious that Mcain only mention his bracelet for political gain.

And all Barack did was say he had bracelet too.

I don’t see what’s wrong with that.

How does that make him 4years old???

If anybody is 4 years old its YOU!

Cuz you obviously got offended by my post and decided to try and prove me wrong, when I was obviously not talking to you or anybody else for that matter.

All I was doing is speaking my DAMN OPINION!

And you, just like a child, got your feelings hurt and decided to instead of excepting the fact that everybody has their OWN opinions, you try to prove somebody wrong.

Becuz you can’t handle that I am RIGHT!

There is no point of Blaming Barack.

If she didn’t want him to wear the bracelet she should’nt of gaven it to him.

I understand that she didn’t want it to be politicized but, she could of easliy called Barack’s campaign HQ {btw the number is on his website} and requst him not to wear it anymore.

I know FOR A FACT{being how wise and honest Barack is}

That he would HAVE NOT mentioned nor wore the bracelet anymore, if he had known that it was a problem for the family.

As for the ex-husband.

First off, the MOTHER is the one who gave Barack the bracelet.

Also it has been proven that the ex-husband happend to be a MCAIN SUPPORTER!

Suprise!….surprise!

Ands it is pretty obvious to me that if both the mother and father REALLY didn’t want Barack to mention her son, then she would have gone out of her way{such as call the DAM campaign HQ} to make that clear to Barack.

To me unless the mother says HERSELF that she didn’t want Barack to mention the bracelet, then obviously this is nothing but a he said, she said.

And the BTW mother made a statement that she was happy that Barack brought up her son in the debate!

Don’t belive me? Google it!

And if she nor her ex-husband, did’nt want to politicize anything WHY DID HE {the husband} go to the press??

And make such a big deal out of it???

Why go to a radio station??

What’s the point?? Why not contact the campaign and make it clear to them???

But, I’m sure you can’t answer that question, can you?

To me your nothing but a hyporcrite!

What’s the deff. between Mcain saying he had a bracelet, and Barack saying it????

Personaly, I thought it was sweet that Barack made the case he had a bracelet too.

What’s wrong with that????

Why whenver Mcain does something he’s being an “honorable” man???

But, when Barack does the SAME THING he’s just doing it for political gain?????

Barack was making the case that there are more then just ONE view point in this war.

Mcain was trying to make a point that the mother he met, did’nt want her sons death to be in vain.

And Barack was making the case the mother that he met, didn’t want any other mother going threw what she was going threw.

All Barack was doing is trying to prove a POINT!

Just as Mcain was.

There is NO def.

As I said b4, it just goes to show you the hyporcrites in america.

I don’t want to talk about this again.

Obviously you have YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE MINE!

Just let it go! Becuz nothing is more childesh then arguing over the dam internet.

You started it and now I am finishing it!

Have a nice day!

@jasmine: I know I really shouldn’t be bothering with this, but this is just too funny to let go.

The “deff.”, dear jasmine, between McCain’s mention of the bracelet and Obama’s, is that McCain said it in context. I know you’re one of those who are wooed by Obama saying words, but if you really listened to the debate, McCain mentioned it with compassion. He shared a personal story, the reason fueling his decision to choose the policy path he chooses. Obama sounded as if he said “I have a bracelet too, nyaa!” as if trying to score points. And that was what he was doing, trying to show himself as “caring” for the troops. In fact, his entire campaign has been nothing but political moves to try to overshadow his past moves and his horrid connections.

Therefore, Obama sounded childish, just as your response to Wordsmith is.

Jopek, for your information, was the one who volunteered, meaning it was something he did of his own choice, of his own will. It’s painful for a mother to lose something so dear as a child, but I see it as shameful for not being proud of your son for dying to protect you, your family, and your nation. It’s painful, but it’s a war. Instead of honoring the hero that her son is, she was putting her own feelings first. That’s truly pitiful.

And no one said there’s anything wrong with stating your opinion. Wordsmith wasn’t trying to hinder you from stating your opinion. Wordsmith was merely correcting your erroneous take on this situation, in hopes of educating you. But, if you’re still going to insist on being dead wrong and not seeing this as how it really is, then I guess you prove yourself to be a person that can’t be helped.

jasmine,

Thank you for your polite response back. It is so rare to find such civility over the internet.

You are a credit to Senator Obama. I apologize for questioning his age. I am sure he is as mature as you, with the mental acumen and rhetoric prowess to match.

So I will gracefully bow out and not risk embarrassing myself further by fisking your last erudite comment.

Thank you for reaching across the aisle and wishing me a nice day. I greatly appreciate that. I am a better human being for it.

YOU have a nice day yourself….sweetie.

snicker…..

Leah,

Upon reading your comment coming to my defense, I reread jasmine’s 2nd comment and looked past the “have a nice day” she told me to have, and into the substance.

Did I just get served?

Jasmine,

You really hurt my feelings. I thought you were different.

@Scott Malensek: Thanks Scott, you saved me a bunch of work. I know months ago I dug through these bills and quoted John Mac from the floor.

And all Barack did was say he had bracelet too.

Kinda reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwjIJnICuk

I agree with Jasmine. Barack Obama did NOTHING WRONG!

And she is right that Barack was just proving a point! He wasn’t doing anything else. And this whole situation DOES show how hyporcrites are in america. And as for wordsmith, like jasmine said, she was just speaking HER opinion. LEAVE HER ALONE!

And as for you Leah, I don’t belive she was talking to you was she? Unless you and wordsmith are the same people. LMAO! And I don’t see how you can say that she is “dead wrong” on her opinion. ITS HER OPINION!

There is no right or wrong cuz, at the end of the day its HER personal views.

You may disagree with her but, I don’t see how you can say that she is “dead wrong” just becuz you don’t agree with her PEROSONAL opinion. Geze, some people obviously can’t handle someones opinions unless they agree with it.

And why do you feel as if you need to “educate” her??

If that’s her opinion then, that’s her opinion.

Just becuz you may not agree doesn’t make her uneducated of the situation.

Anyways Barack wasn’t doing anything wrong, the mother gave him the bracelet in honor of her son, if she didn’t want him to say anything about it, she should of done what Jasmine said, and call the Obama campaign HQ. There was no need to make such a big drama story out of it. And if she she did oppose him mentioning the bracelet it is not Obama’s fault that she obviously didnt go out of her way to let her feelings be heard.

As jasmine said before, he was just proving a point in the debates. He was just proving that there are more than just one views to the war.

Mcain was trying to make a point to stay in iraq becuz, the mothers of fallen soldiers don’t want to have thier childrens death to be in vain.

Barack on the other hand, was making the point that we need to get out of iraq becuz, mothers of fallen soldiers don’t want other mothers to go threw what they’ve gone threw.

That’s all. There is no defference in Obama’s intentions and Mcain’s intentions.

Both were just trying to prove a point’s.

And obviously Mcain was trying to get political points by telling sad and sob story’s to get the hearts of voters.

And Obama was trying to prove that Mcain isn’t the only one with that bracelet and that he has the honor of wearing it as well.

Don’t let them get to you Jasmine!

The republicans are just mad that there losing ground in the polls. And now want to use this story as a distraction to the REAL ISSUES of America.

Obama/Biden08! Baby!

David’s post reminds me of this:

I am going to break David’s new rules and respond to this comment he made:

“Barack on the other hand, was making the point that we need to get out of iraq becuz, mothers of fallen soldiers don’t want other mothers to go threw what they’ve gone threw.”

Yet he wants more forces in Afghanistan, what about the mothers of those troops?

Now for Jasmine, there are two parents grieving, he should be considerate of both. If one doesn’t want their son’s death politicized, then don’t do it.

David and Jasmine are the same person. They tried to hide their IP’s, probably because she/he were caught on this blog sometime ago doing the same sockpuppetry.

David and Jasmine use becuz, cuz, and Mcain…..some kind of coincidence that these two use the same weird spelling for those words huh?

Give it up you idiot.

@Aye Chihuahua:
That just scares me. I can buy off on mental health care.

Curt what is your problem dude?? If I were jasmine then why would I agree with myself? O yeah that makes perfect sence DUMBASS! And why are you calling me names?? If anybody’s the f&cking idiot it’s you! If you disagree with me then that’s fine but, don’t call me out of my name. I don’t appreciate that.

Because your a sockpuppet. Give it up Jasmine

Barack Obama did NOTHING WRONG!

Barak did everything WRONG.

Now we have another Sheehanization of another dead soldier. The woman decided to not politicized her remarkable son’s death before she decided to politicize her remarkable son’s death.

Reminds me of the sweet photo of the mother of Casey Sheehan leaning her head on the shoulder of President Bush – before she was asking for President Bush’s head.

Mmmmm.. I see. Free speech from the Obama supporters is only a one way street. You can express your opinion, but no response is necessary, nor is it appreciated. (tho I’m sure they’d welcome praise, of course)

Wow… what a concept.

As for the bracelet wars? Bigger fish to fry nowadays. Soldiers and their mothers make up their own minds. Just as they should. And the proof in the pudding will come in early November.

Then we all better hang on tight. Because no matter who it is, “it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”.

You know what? I’m done with this. Obviously you john Mcain ass kissers are too ignorant to talk to. As for you Skye, he didn’t DO ANYTHING WRONG! And I would advise you to not belive internet rumors UNTIL YOU HAVE PROOF! Meaning until you hear from Barack Obama and let him set the record srtraight HIMSELF! There is no need for you to critisize him over this situation.

Like I said before Curt, if I wear jasmine it would’nt make sence to agree w/ myself now would it???

Obama/Biden08!

“I know FOR A FACT{being how wise and honest Barack is}” (Jasmine)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Barack is a FRAUD… a LIAR, an ENEMY of the United States. Get your facts right!
He has no integrity, won’t even give his medical records, is University records… he hangs around with ex-terrorists, US/Bashers, crooks, and got more money from Fannie Mae in 3 years, than any other politician in 20 years. OBAMA IS A TOTAL DISGRACE TO THIS COUNTRY. Wake up Jasmine!

Jasmine & David,

Both of you say that B-Rock did nothing wrong.

You do realize that the mother who gave him the bracelet explicitly asked him NOT to mention it during speeches and debates, don’t you?

B-Rock went against this mother’s specific request.

That’s a portion of what he did wrong.

Lets start with Jasmines comment:

@Word smith

What is your problem???? I don’t understand why you had to comment on my post.

All I’m doing is speaking my opinion.

As for my lack of seing “distinction.”

Go FUCK yourself you hyporcrite!

It is obvious that Mcain only mention his bracelet for political gain.

And all Barack did was say he had bracelet too.

I don’t see what’s wrong with that.

How does that make him 4years old???

If anybody is 4 years old its YOU!

Cuz you obviously got offended by my post and decided to try and prove me wrong, when I was obviously not talking to you or anybody else for that matter.

All I was doing is speaking my DAMN OPINION!

And you, just like a child, got your feelings hurt and decided to instead of excepting the fact that everybody has their OWN opinions, you try to prove somebody wrong.

Becuz you can’t handle that I am RIGHT!

There is no point of Blaming Barack.

If she didn’t want him to wear the bracelet she should’nt of gaven it to him.

I understand that she didn’t want it to be politicized but, she could of easliy called Barack’s campaign HQ {btw the number is on his website} and requst him not to wear it anymore.

I know FOR A FACT{being how wise and honest Barack is}

That he would HAVE NOT mentioned nor wore the bracelet anymore, if he had known that it was a problem for the family.

As for the ex-husband.

First off, the MOTHER is the one who gave Barack the bracelet.

Also it has been proven that the ex-husband happend to be a MCAIN SUPPORTER!

Suprise!….surprise!

Ands it is pretty obvious to me that if both the mother and father REALLY didn’t want Barack to mention her son, then she would have gone out of her way{such as call the DAM campaign HQ} to make that clear to Barack.

To me unless the mother says HERSELF that she didn’t want Barack to mention the bracelet, then obviously this is nothing but a he said, she said.

And the BTW mother made a statement that she was happy that Barack brought up her son in the debate!

Don’t belive me? Google it!

And if she nor her ex-husband, did’nt want to politicize anything WHY DID HE {the husband} go to the press??

And make such a big deal out of it???

Why go to a radio station??

What’s the point?? Why not contact the campaign and make it clear to them???

But, I’m sure you can’t answer that question, can you?

To me your nothing but a hyporcrite!

What’s the deff. between Mcain saying he had a bracelet, and Barack saying it????

Personaly, I thought it was sweet that Barack made the case he had a bracelet too.

What’s wrong with that????

Why whenver Mcain does something he’s being an “honorable” man???

But, when Barack does the SAME THING he’s just doing it for political gain?????

Barack was making the case that there are more then just ONE view point in this war.

Mcain was trying to make a point that the mother he met, did’nt want her sons death to be in vain.

And Barack was making the case the mother that he met, didn’t want any other mother going threw what she was going threw.

All Barack was doing is trying to prove a POINT!

Just as Mcain was.

There is NO def.

As I said b4, it just goes to show you the hyporcrites in america.

I don’t want to talk about this again.

Obviously you have YOUR OPINION AND I HAVE MINE!

Just let it go! Becuz nothing is more childesh then arguing over the dam internet.

You started it and now I am finishing it!

Have a nice day!

And now David’s

I agree with Jasmine. Barack Obama did NOTHING WRONG!

And she is right that Barack was just proving a point! He wasn’t doing anything else. And this whole situation DOES show how hyporcrites are in america. And as for wordsmith, like jasmine said, she was just speaking HER opinion. LEAVE HER ALONE!

And as for you Leah, I don’t belive she was talking to you was she? Unless you and wordsmith are the same people. LMAO! And I don’t see how you can say that she is “dead wrong” on her opinion. ITS HER OPINION!

There is no right or wrong cuz, at the end of the day its HER personal views.

You may disagree with her but, I don’t see how you can say that she is “dead wrong” just becuz you don’t agree with her PEROSONAL opinion.

Geze, some people obviously can’t handle someones opinions unless they agree with it.

And why do you feel as if you need to “educate” her??

If that’s her opinion then, that’s her opinion.

Just becuz you may not agree doesn’t make her uneducated of the situation.

Anyways Barack wasn’t doing anything wrong, the mother gave him the bracelet in honor of her son, if she didn’t want him to say anything about it, she should of done what Jasmine said, and call the Obama campaign HQ. There was no need to make such a big drama story out of it. And if she she did oppose him mentioning the bracelet it is not Obama’s fault that she obviously didnt go out of her way to let her feelings be heard.

As jasmine said before, he was just proving a point in the debates. He was just proving that there are more than just one views to the war.

Mcain was trying to make a point to stay in iraq becuz, the mothers of fallen soldiers don’t want to have thier childrens death to be in vain.

Barack on the other hand, was making the point that we need to get out of iraq becuz, mothers of fallen soldiers don’t want other mothers to go threw what they’ve gone threw.

That’s all. There is no defference in Obama’s intentions and Mcain’s intentions.

Both were just trying to prove a point’s.

And obviously Mcain was trying to get political points by telling sad and sob story’s to get the hearts of voters.

And Obama was trying to prove that Mcain isn’t the only one with that bracelet and that he has the honor of wearing it as well.

Don’t let them get to you Jasmine!

The republicans are just mad that there losing ground in the polls. And now want to use this story as a distraction to the REAL ISSUES of America.

Obama/Biden08! Baby!

Are you really trying to sell to us that you are two different people? The spelling errors are exactly the same….and there are plenty of errors.

Please….get real.