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I came across a remarkable letter to the editor printed in Philadelphia’s neighborhood paper, The Northeast Times. It is a rebuttal to a three page love note printed by The Northeast Times hightlighting the organization Iraq Veterans Against War.

For your perusal and commentary, you can view the original article HERE.

Below is the rebuttal to this article:

The July 24 cover story A battle cry to end the war by staff writer Jon Campisi is a flattering account of the anti-war group Iraq Veterans Against the War, which lacked a great deal of critical information needed for the Northeast Times readers to reach an informed opinion of the group, its origin, efforts and goals.

Though Campisi noted that the Iraq Veterans Against the War were formed under the patronage of the Veterans For Peace, unexamined is who are the Veterans For Peace (VFP). The leadership of VFP is almost exclusively members of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW). Vietnam Veterans Against the War are veterans who unfairly smeared their own generation of military, calling them baby killers and war criminals at the Jane Fonda-funded “tribunal” called Winter Soldier. The real story is that IVAW is really a re-enactment of the Vietnam era protests under VVAW. A lack of originality can be forgiven, but the Iraq Veterans Against the War’s decision to hold their own Winter Soldier smear is absolutely reprehensible.

This time it was the AFL-CIO who played the role of Jane Fonda and hosted Winter Soldier 2.0 at its National Labor College in Silver Spring, Md.

Similar to the original attack on the Vietnam generation, none of the “testimony” was under oath and hearsay was permitted, violating basic constitutional rights afforded Americans accused of crimes. Names of perpetrators were not required, but the “witnesses” told the world war crimes are routinely committed by our troops with the awareness of all levels of command. Additionally, the scope of IVAW’s Winter Soldier 2.0 included Afghanistan as an illegal and immoral war.

The profiles of the IVAW members featured in Jon Campisi’s account contained disingenuous elements. T.J. Buonomo was described as having five years of service. In fact, four years were at the U.S. Air Force Academy. Consider that those four years of college-level education does not count towards military retirement, and you will see his service was exaggerated. A great deal of the time left was spent in training and he never deployed — not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it was presented in a way to imply more experience and knowledge than exists.

Kelly Dougherty is described as enlisting at age 17, in a Guard unit. Other than her deployment, the commitment per year in the Reserves or Guard is one weekend a month and two weeks of active duty training, 38 days.

Shalom Keller is cited as six months in Afghanistan and 12 months in Iraq, but the writer fails to note that his experience is stale, as the situation on the ground in Iraq has dramatically changed. That is a recurring fact when looking at what many IVAW vets bring to the debate. The reality of the Iraq war has changed, but their views have not.

Overall, the anti-war movement seeks to sell as military experts, junior enlisted personnel who lack the training, experience and skills to provide a strategic opinion. They can speak to their experience, but keep in mind, their responsibilities in this war were limited to three city blocks and a dozen people. Yet, they are sent out as someone who can speak with authority, because their leaders exploit the American public’s genuine awe for our troops.

These Iraq vets posture that though they are against the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, they are as patriotic as mainstream America. That claim breaks down quickly when you look at the beliefs of the groups they support and work with, such as ANSWER, Code Pink, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and even Veterans For Peace.

ANSWER is a front for the Party for Liberation and Socialism, whose leaders preach unconditional support for the insurgents they call “the resistance,” even as they kill American troops. Code Pink has contributed $650,000 to “the resistance.” Both are endorsers of the World Tribunal on Iraq that declares that the insurgents have the moral high ground, so much so that they are entitled to commit terrorist atrocities to force the Americans out of Iraq.

Ignored in the article were initiatives prominently featured on the IVAW Web site. Tactical strategies such as “Befriend A Recruiter,” in which IVAW hopes to “shut down recruitment for this war,” participants are encouraged to not reveal their connection to IVAW or this initiative. Honest addressing of the issues, right? In the Active Duty section of the Web site one can find information on being a war resistor, appealing for redress, and conscientious objector information.

Based upon the contents of the Web site and the facts presented, it is fair to say that supporting the troops through subversion is a good characterization of this IVAW.

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Being away in Palm Springs vacationing a bit I missed this thread of comments but have to weigh in a bit, being a Veteran and all. Although Mata, Word, and Skye have pretty much said all there is to say. Any active duty member working with that subversive group, a group that aligns itself with an even more reprehensible group Code Pink, is beyond reprehensible and I agree with Skye, should be drummed out of the service. In no way shape or form did I ever believe I knew the big picture of the duties we carried out. I had my opinions, and god knows all of us in the military love to bitch, but I believed in the Marines, I believed in my country, and when those Generals and that President sends us on a mission I trusted in their knowledge of the situation.

That essay of those core principals AS wrote speaks volumes about her character and principals. I shudder to think the damage she has done to his fellow soldiers based upon it. As Word wrote:

Based upon your essay interpretation of “The Core Army Values”, how do you reconcile “carrying out orders” professionally when you wear the uniform, and subverting those “legal orders” when you are not on duty? Going by your essay’s rationale, should you not be disobeying direct orders to participate in the prosecution of a “purposeless” “foreign” war which “we can’t win”? Would that not be fulfilling duty and honor, as you see it, and displaying “loyalty to the Constitution, which is “under attack by men who have not sacrificed to protect it”?

The whole rationale of that essay tells me that either she is doing everything possible to subvert the war effort, or she is a blowhard who talks tough, but when it comes down to it he is just one more soldier bitching and moaning.

Hey Army Sergeant Schultz,

Here’s another IVAW/Code Pink connection you seemed to miss.

“PROGRESSIVE PUB CRAWL – IVAW and Code PInk – Please forward widely!
Friends: Attached is a flier for the “Progressive Pub Crawl” – IVAW and Code Pink fundraisers, in Adams Morgan – both on Saturday, Aug 2!! Hope you can join us. IVAW will kick offf its Open Mic fundraiser at 5 p.m., with music by Perry King and Friends, karaoke, and special guests. At Chief Ike’s Mambo Room, 1725 Columbia Rd., NW, 5-8:30 p.m., suggested donation $5 – 20 (no one turned away for lack of funds). IVAW will use proceeds to pay costs of its trip to the Democratic & Republican conventions.”

You guys claim you want to recreate the anti-war coffee house, but mostoften events spend a lot of time in beer halls.

Yawn. The debate over whether or not to invade Iraq is in it’s SEVENTH YEAR. Here’s a newsflash: Iraq was invaded, great people fought and died there, they are bringing peace to the nation, and they are being brought home with honor. UN, US, Iraq, Bush, Obama, McCain, and the DNC are all on the same page about the path forward:

“We can safely remove our combat brigades at the pace of one to two per month and expect to complete redeployment within 16 months. After this redeployment, we will keep a residual force in Iraq to perform specific missions: targeting terrorists; protecting our embassy and civil personnel; and advising and supporting Iraq’s Security Forces, provided the Iraqis make political progress. ”
“… At the same time, we will provide generous assistance to Iraqi refugees and internally displaced persons. We will launch a comprehensive regional and international diplomatic surge to help broker a lasting political settlement in Iraq, which is the only path to a sustainable peace. We will make clear that we seek no permanent bases in Iraq. This is the future the American people”

THE DEBATE IS OVER-opponents of the war (violent terrorist insurgents and peaceful political pawns of the left) have lost.

I AM an active duty Army Officer A.S. and I SUPPORT our efforts fully. Code Pink is a subversive organization which brags of sending $600k worth of supplies and cash to “insurgents” in Fallujah who were fighting Marines there. They HAVE been reported to the FBI many times. I suggest you do a little investigation on you “allies”.

Code Pink waves signs saying “we support our troops when they shoot their officers” and other such idiocy. They and their associates are beneath contempt.

I have no time or desire to expend any more energy on your idiocy concerning this matter. This is all I will say: IVAW is a subversive, in my opinion treasonous, organization based on the very treasonous VVAW organization which fostered it. It is allied with other subersive organizations which are doing their best to make ANY effort to defend the USA “unwinnable”. You are running with a very bad crowd at IVAW. If this is how you decide to lead you life, then please get out of the military before IAVW does something which dishonors your position and rank any more.

Army Sergent;

Why are you qualified to give political policy? Christ people like you annoyed me will I was in. I was a sailor and we called your type sea lawyers. Why do you think you hold some special information that the rest of the Military doesn’t have? What possible policy information could you have that the president doesn’t have? That you profess to having certain insights doesn’t make you right but you can’t see that. Typical liberal. You probably don’t understand why we just can’t see your incedible intellect. There are scores of pages of reports that say Bush picked wisely given the state of intelligence at the time of the Iraq invasion. That the intelligence turned out to be wrong is beside the point at this point. We are there whether the intelligence was right or wrong. Get out at your EAOS. Leave the army. It isn’t for people who just want a retirement, its for defending our country.

Hey Army Sergeant,

You lie.

In particular, ” In addition, IVAW is not against Afghanistan, but only the Iraq occupation.”

That’s bull and you know it.

Winter Soldier 2.0 is about Iraq AND Afghanistan.

Your Veterans For Peace puppet masters (i’e, the VVAW cock roaches) have their campaign against Afghanistan too. Based on the silly assertion that al-Qaeda wasn’t “indigenous” to Afghanistan.

Yeah, but the Taliban that gave them sanctuary and allowed them to operate freely within the Afghan borders was “indigenous”.

I don’t know what’s worse, your lying or the poor quality of your lies.

Osama Bin Laden had his daughter marry Mullah Omar’s. He funded the Taliban bigtime, and his Arab Afghan brigades helped them keep power. Ohhhh, but the talking point is that Al Queda isn’t indigenous to Afghanistan. Seems to me they’re involved enough.