Obama during an interview which airs today on the Michael Smerconish Show
OBAMA: I will be honest with you that I didn’t have that many conversations with him over the last year just because I have been so busy. I haven’t been going to church. I wasn’t hearing a lot of these comments. The ones that are most offensive are ones that I never knew about until they were reported on. I had had conversations with him in the past – in fact from the day I first met him — about some of his views. Understand this, something else that has not been reported on enough is despite these very offensive views, this guy has built one of the finest churches in Chicago. This is not a crackpot church. Witness the fact that Bill Clinton invited him to the White House when he was having his personal crises. This is a pillar of the community and if you go there on Easter on this Easter Sunday and you sat down there in the pew you would think this is just like any other church. … So I don’t want to suggest that somehow, the loops you have been seeing typifies the services all the time. That is the danger of the YouTube era. It doesn’t excuse what he said. But it gives it some perspective.
Well, if the pillar of the community is white hate then I guess you would be right Mr. Obama. As far as the Easter services go I doubt many churches were comparing their reverend to Jesus Christ:
The new pastor at Barack Obama’s church used his first Easter sermon on Sunday to compare controversial Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. to Jesus’ death at the hands of the Romans.
Sunday’s sunrise sermon, delivered by Rev. Otis Moss III, was called “How to Handle a Public Lynching” and focused primarily on the media firestorm that has focused international attention on this Chicago ministry, which is the church attended by the Democratic presidential candidate.
Moss did not directly mention his spiritual mentor by name, but told the congregation at Trinity United Church of Christ that Wright, who has delivered sermons in which he likened the U.S. to the Ku Klux Klan and saying it is damned for its state-sponsored terrorism, is facing the same challenges Jesus did.
Um, yeah. Not like the racist brought it on himself with his “Goddamn America” speech, which, by the way, I’m sure we all can picture Jesus saying about the Romans right?:
Wright on 9/11 – “America’s chickens….coming home…..to roost!”
Not a crackpot church! Classic.
Watch the above video all the way through…
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All I will say about this church and its pastor is that if we exchange its “white” and “black” references, these people would be labeled as Christian Identity (or some other such predudiced cults) followers and properly labeled as a hate group.
No matter what order they reference the words, racism is racism.
When my father returned from Vietnam (a conflict he and my mother volunteered, supported, and were spit on for), he found his childhood church overrun with the “peace at ANY cost” and “surrender is better than risking defending ourselves” crowd. My father spoke to the minister and then left that church for good after he found he could not support the minister and his positions.
He changed churches and eventually became a decon before his passing. I never went to church again unless it was for a wedding or a funeral as that minister and his insanity soured me for good.
Obama should have spoken to his “uncle” and then left years ago. That is “audacity” and that is positive “change”. Instead, the only “audacity” we get is racial attacks for noting the overt predudice and hatred coming from Mr. Wright. Nothing “changed” in the left’s playbook except now they finally have to deal with being labeled as racists also.
I doubt they will understand the irony. Instead we will be inundated with the standard “conseratives this/that” and “republican attack machine” BS.
I was brought up in the Methodist church. I even gave the sermon one Sunday after being pumped full of anti-corporate propaganda on a church trip to New York and Washington.
But when the Minister used the pulpit to request parishioners sign the Nuclear Freeze petition in the Lobby I had had enough. I sent him a letter telling him what an absolutely idiotic idea the freeze was and how it would only embolden our enemies. He wrote back that he would be happy to have a dialogue with me on the subject. I voted with my feet.
History has shown the good Reverand to have been so very, VERY wrong on that issue. Had the U.S. declared a freeze, or failed to stand up to the Soviets in Europe and develop SDI the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall would still be holding millions captive behind the Iron Curtain.
None of those handwringing peaceniks ever did anything to achieve peace. All they have done is embolden and enable evil.
if they were of lighter colored skin, and had an almost completely white following, the would be the arian brotherhood. jsut because their skin is darker, and they were “enslved” by the white man they feel they have a free lunch on this crap. they can say whatever they want and it is religious freedom, give me a frigging break. i wnat to know how many in his church are on welfare and getting government aide, those who are are biting the hand that feeds them.
It was not a crack/pot church, it was more of a meth/smack church.
This church seems like it’s about due for an investigation by the IRS to evaluate its non-profit status, sounds like it’s pretty much one big PAC for Barrack Obama’s campaign these days.
Obama’s attempt to dodge Wright’s stain, or explain away his words, etc., strike me like the conduct of a small child trying to talk his way out of being caught in a lie by his parents. In the end, it might come off better if Obama just came out and confess that he’s a closet racist, admit that he has a problem, and make good faith efforts to show how he’s working to correct his thinking. But, I hardly expect such honest soul searching from such a polished show-man.
Yes, it’s true that Hillary may not know what it’s like to be called a “nigger,” but then again Barrack doesn’t know what it’s like to be called a “bitch.” Let’s hope that the wider American public doesn’t buy into the Democratic Party’s great identity politics free-for-all.
I take it Obama’s interview took place before Easter. Because this Easter service was definitely NOT like any other church.
Yeah Christine, I think it’s not a stretch to say that the Trinity Easter sermon was a far cry from that which you’d get at any normal church.
I kind of find it hard to draw much comparison between Wright and Jesus. I don’t recall Christ ever intoning the words: “God Damn the Roman Empire,” implying that the Roman Empire was purposefully spreading Leprosy amongst the Jews, or explaining how Rome getting attacked by the barbarian hordes was an example of “the chickens coming home to roost” for the empire.
Possible titles for next week’s sermon at Trinity: “Flag burning for beginners,” “Proper black power raised fist technique,” and “Don’t worry, God doesn’t think we’re a bunch of racists.”
A perfect example of blasphemy.
Just because a church is a mega church (in terms of size) doesn’t mean that it is a well-balanced church based on the love of Christ. And, the fact that Rev. Wright has been in the ministry for many years also doesn’t mean that his was a loving, self-less, Christ-like type of ministry!!! I could name a several other ministries that fit into this category, so it’s not uncommon. Being a big church does not necessarily equate with spiritual success, in other words. It just means they’ve managed to get a LOT of people to give them money.
By the way, I’m not saying that all big churches are disingenuous, but this one needs some divine intervention, IMHO.
It was amusing watching the FOX segment where they played Obama’s reference to Trinity not being a "crack pot church" and aired the video clip of Moss. But, since Obama said it isn’t a crack pot church, we are expected to believe him because he said so, he’s Obama.
What concerns people outside of the "movement" have about the church, the pastors, the sermons is not what matters , they have all kinds of excuses as to why our concerns should be dismissed.
This article was interesting to me, a rallying of the troops after Obama had to distance himself from Farahkan. Pastor Moss continues the whacko sermons to do the same. If he has to eventually distance himself from the church to shut us up, like he did with Farakhan, they know he doesn’t really mean it, it’s politics.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/821131,CST-NWS-mitch02.article
As an aside, you should read the Scholars’ Translation. Where the King James (and other) translations have "woe unto…", the Scholars’ Translation suggests that Christ used the demotic language–the speech of the common man–and that, just after the Beatitudes, He said something closer to:
I can easily envision these words coming from the same Christ who physically disrupted the moneychangers in the Temple.
There’s also precious little difference between Wright’s words and those of Martin Luther King, Jr:
I won’t even mention the number of preachers who have suggested that America faces God’s judgment because of particular sins; it’s sufficient to note that both 9/11 and Katrina were labelled "God’s judgment on America" by religious figures on both sides of the political aisle.
You may not like his language, but the theology is practiced routinely across the board. This is yet another reason that the Founders, in their wisdom, prohibited religious tests for public office; it’s to our detriment that we seem intent on reintroducing them.
I’m praying that the left, like yourself, keeps defending this guys vitriol wes….and the fact that Obama eat it up….will cost him dearly in November.
That quote you got from KOS which has been widely reprinted since KOS put it up is from the alternative translation of the Sermon on the Mount by the Jesus Seminar…the same folks that do not accept he rose from the dead.
If your gonna cherry pick quotes at least do it from something accepted by the majority of Christians.