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		<description><![CDATA[<strong>Chris Matthews</strong>: “Aren't you worried, though, that in a world where we have to compete with science, in science and technology with Chinese and Indian young geniuses, and some of them move here, and some that are still over in their countries around the world, we're competing in a world of science and technology to be a country that might be led by someone who doesn't believe in evolution? Who doesn't believe in climate change? Who doesn't believe in the scientific community of his own country, the National Academy of Science, for example, on climate change? Wouldn't that be kind of scary to have somebody who is so anti-intellectual as president?” <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/08/24/say-what-8242011-edition-reader-post/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><em><strong>Liberals:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>President Obama</strong> from Martha’s Vineyard: “That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important that folks in Washington put country before party. That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so important that our elected leaders get past their differences to help grow the economy and put this nation back to work. Because here in Alpha it couldn&#8217;t be more clear: if we can come together, there&#8217;s no stopping the United States of America.”</p>
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<p>President <strong>Barack Obama</strong>: “One of the challenges in terms of rebuilding our economy is &#8211; businesses have gotten so efficient, that, uh, when was the last time somebody went to a bank teller? Instead of using an ATM. Or, used a travel agent instead of going online. A lot of jobs out that that used to require people now have become automated.”</p>
<p>Press secretary <strong>Jay Carney</strong>: &#8220;In early September, we will put forward proposals for jobs-creating ideas and economic growth ideas.  We want to be aggressive with deficit reduction that helps pay for things you need to do in the near term to grow the economy.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Nancy Pelosi</strong>: &#8220;Unemployment insurance, the economists tell us, return $2 for every $1 that is put out there for unemployment insurance.  It injects demand into the economy, it creates jobs to help reduce the deficit.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Pelosi</strong>:  &#8220;[Tax cuts do] not create jobs.  I mention this because this is the context in which we bring up this tax cut for middle-income families in America today.&#8221;</p>
<p>Secretary of Agriculture <strong>Tom Vilsack</strong>: &#8220;Well, obviously, it&#8217;s putting people to work. Which is why we&#8217;re going to have some interesting things in the course of the forum this morning. Later this morning, we&#8217;re going have a press conference with Secretary Mavis and Secretary Chu to announce something that&#8217;s never happened in this country &#8212; something that we think is exciting in terms of job growth. I should point out, when you talk about the SNAP program or the foot stamp program, you have to recognize that it&#8217;s also an economic stimulus. Every dollar of SNAP benefits generates $1.84 in the economy in terms of economic activity. If people are able to buy a little more in the grocery store, someone has to stock it, package it, shelve it, process it, ship it.”</p>
<p>Democrat Senator <strong>Frank Lautenberg</strong> (who is worth $50 million): “There is that opportunity along the way, but I&#8217;ll tell you .. there&#8217;s another place to get your money and it&#8217;s to get it from people like me who made their successes because of the infrastructure, the human infrastructure that the United States has.  And we ought to pay more in our taxes for the things that we&#8217;ve gotten as the result of an extraordinary middle class that we have in this country.. Go to <strong>Warren Buffett</strong>, you heard him the other day, the richest man in America, if not second or third, he said we ought to pay more for the privileges that we wealthy have in this country.  It&#8217;s a tough fight but we&#8217;ve got to do it.  We&#8217;ve got to eliminate the rich.  We&#8217;ve got to eliminate the fraudulent practice.”</p>
<p>Democrat Rep. <strong>Ed Markey</strong> to <strong>Rick Perry</strong>: &#8220;Now the Texas governor <strong>Rick Perry</strong> has also said that the <strong>EPA</strong> is a job killer and called for president Obama to put a moratorium on all regulations for at least six months. This despite independent research that says environmental regulations actually create new jobs.”</p>
<p>New York City Mayor <strong>Michael Bloomberg</strong> (I): &#8220;Most importantly, we want to get immigrants from around the world to come to America&#8230;That&#8217;s the single biggest thing that the president could do with Congress, is open up the borders to those that will create jobs here.&#8221;</p>
<p>When you read over the past half dozen quotations, do you have any confusion as to why this administration has so mishandled the economy?  Either all of these people are stupid beyond belief, or they are just making stuff up to show their support for an inept president.</p>
<p>Former Press Secretary <strong>Robert Gibbs</strong>: &#8220;The president&#8217;s not worried about his job &#8211; he&#8217;s worried about creating jobs for millions or American who have been out of work for six months, two years or longer.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Joe Biden</strong> in China: He called the downgrade of the U.S. credit rating by Standard &amp; Poor&#8217;s &#8220;disturbing and bothersome to us.&#8221;  Then he explained: &#8220;We made some significant progress, but not the progress we could have made and will make.&#8221; <strong>Biden</strong> said there had been a tentative agreement that would have gone beyond the final debt deal was in place.  &#8220;But there is a group within the Republican Party that has a very strong voice now that wanted different changes. That deal fell through at the very end.&#8221;  And this deal was&#8230;.?</p>
<p>Rep. <strong>Elijah Cummings</strong> (D-Md.): &#8220;We [the African Smerican community] are totally frustrated, and they need to know that the president feels their pain&#8230;almost every African-American person I spoke to said [<strong>President Barack Obama</strong>] needs to fight, and fight harder.  Their attitude is . . . if Republicans aren&#8217;t going to work with us, we&#8217;re just going to have to work alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Democratic Rep. <strong>John Lewis</strong>: &#8220;I don&#8217;t think that people that I&#8217;ve been talking with today . . . several thousand individuals . . . they&#8217;re not frustrated with President Obama.  They&#8217;re frustrated with unemployment.&#8221;</p>
<p>Democratic Congressman <strong>Charles Rangel</strong> to fill-in host <strong>Laura Ingraham</strong>: &#8220;Let me say this. That <strong>Bill O&#8217;Reilly</strong> told me he had a secret weapon, I didn&#8217;t know it was just a pretty girl that he would bring in.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>ICE</strong> memo: “Because the agency is confronted with more administrative violations than its resources can address, the agency must regularly exercise ‘prosecutorial discretion’ if it is to prioritize its efforts.”  If we don’t want to prosecute you, then we won’t.</p>
<p><strong>Janeane Garofalo</strong>: &#8220;[<strong>Herman Cain</strong> is] in this presidential race because he deflects the racism that is inherent in the Republican party, the conservative movement, the Tea Party certainly. [In] the last 30 years the Republican party has been moving more and more to the right, but also race-baiting more. Gay-baiting more. Religion-baiting more&#8230;But, <strong>Herman Cain</strong>, I feel like, is being paid by somebody to be involved and to run for president so that you go like &#8216;I love that, that can&#8217;t be racist. He&#8217;s a black guy, a black guy asking for Obama being impeached.&#8217; Or &#8216;it&#8217;s a black guy whose anti-Muslim. It&#8217;s a black guy who is a Tea Party guy.&#8217;  And I feel like wouldn&#8217;t that suit the purposes of whomever astroturfs these things. Whether that be the <strong>Koch brothers</strong> or <strong>Grover Norquist</strong> or any anything. It could even be Karl Rove. &#8216;Let&#8217;s get <strong>Herman Cain</strong> involved so it deflects the obvious racism of our Republican party.&#8217;  &#8230;He&#8217;s a businessman.  Who ever pays him. And there may be a touch of Stockholm syndrome. There may be a touch of Stockholm syndrome in there because anytime I see a person of color or a female in the Republican party or the conservative movement or the Tea Party, I wonder how they could be trying to curry with the oppressors. Is it Stockholm syndrome or does somebody pay them?&#8221;</p>
<p><em><strong>The Compliant Obama Press:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>NBC</strong>’s <strong>Matt Lauer</strong>: “In your face. The Tea Party puts its confrontational style on display during a stop on President Obama&#8217;s bus tour. While the GOP&#8217;s newest candidate Rick Perry is facing some criticism from both parties. We&#8217;ll tell you why.” the bottom screen headline read: &#8220;The Politics of Anger; Tea Party Tactics Change Race for President.&#8221;   P. J. Salvatore, who posted this quote, commented: Has Lauer even been to a tea party?  The tea partiers who spoke with Obama were polite, they shook his hand, and expressed dissent. It&#8217;s dangerous for Matt Lauer to suggest that simple dissent and questioning of our elected leaders is more than it is. Every violent incident has been the result of progressive thuggery that he has failed to report as a journalist. Failed, or chose to ignore.</p>
<p>The <strong>Associated Press</strong>: “Texas has accounted for nearly half the U.S. jobs created since the recession officially ended two years ago, according to calculations by the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas.  Its job-creation figures are coming under scrutiny now that Gov. Rick Perry, a Republican, has launched a presidential campaign.”</p>
<p><strong>NPR</strong>&#8216;s website: &#8220;[Rick Perry is a] Texas governor with a little bit of swagger and a heavy emphasis on his Christian faith, is running for president. It all feels a little familiar. Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry has been called &#8216;George W. Bush on steroids.&#8217; ”</p>
<p><strong>Chris Matthews</strong>: “Aren&#8217;t you worried, though, that in a world where we have to compete with science, in science and technology with Chinese and Indian young geniuses, and some of them move here, and some that are still over in their countries around the world, we&#8217;re competing in a world of science and technology to be a country that might be led by someone who doesn&#8217;t believe in evolution? Who doesn&#8217;t believe in climate change? Who doesn&#8217;t believe in the scientific community of his own country, the National Academy of Science, for example, on climate change? Wouldn&#8217;t that be kind of scary to have somebody who is so anti-intellectual as president?”</p>
<p>After comparing <strong>Rick Perry</strong> to <strong>Bull Connor</strong> (a <strong>Democrat</strong> segregationalist from the 1950&#8242;s), <strong>Chris Matthews</strong> backed off ever so slightly the next day: &#8220;I compared him to <strong>Bull Connor</strong> with a smile yesterday. Maybe that was too far, but I&#8217;m still learning about this guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>The <strong>NY Times</strong>: &#8220;<strong>President Obama</strong> plans a major speech on jobs after Labor Day in which he will lay out new proposals for jump-starting the economy and specific plans for legislative efforts to cut spending, White House officials said.&#8221;<br />
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<p><strong>Chris Matthews</strong>: &#8220;In a world sense, the Democratic is really a centrist party, they are not a hard Socialist party, they don&#8217;t believe in government control of heavy industries.&#8221;</p>
<p><em><strong>Liberals from the past:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>President Obama</strong> from 14June 2011 on NBC, explaining the reasons for high unemployment:  &#8220;There are some structural issues with our economy where a lot of businesses have learned to become much more efficient with a lot fewer workers. You see it when you go to a bank and you use an ATM, you don&#8217;t go to a bank teller, or you go to the airport and you&#8217;re using a kiosk instead of checking in at the gate.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>President Obama</strong> from July 25, 2011, &#8220;I swore an oath to uphold the laws on the books. . . I know some people want me to bypass Congress and change the laws on my own &#8211; that&#8217;s not how our system works&#8221;  The context just happens to be the immigration laws, which Obama is subverting by executive fiat.</p>
<p><em><strong>Liberals being civil:</strong></em></p>
<p>Rep. <strong>Maxine Waters</strong> (D-Los Angeles): &#8220;I&#8217;m not afraid of anybody.  This is a tough game. You can&#8217;t be intimidated. You can&#8217;t be frightened. And as far as I&#8217;m concerned, the `tea party&#8217; can go straight to hell.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Ray Pensador</strong> at Daily Kos: “A civil and modern society that operates under the rule of law, respects the Bill of Rights and the Constitution, can only exist under Liberalism and a Progressive philosophy.  We are right.  They are wrong, and must be mercilessly defeated.  The U.S. government has been corrupted to the core by a plutocratic cabal of sociopaths.  The entire U.S. media serves mainly as a propaganda machine for the criminal plutocracy.  There is an international conspiracy of bankers who are looting the entire world-wide financial system.  I don&#8217;t give a s&#8211;t about quoting Reagan, or Linbaugh [sic], or making statements like, &#8220;You see, even &#8216;so and so&#8217; who is a conservative Republican, agrees with &#8216;this or that.&#8217;&#8221;  I only care about what we (Liberals, and Progressive) have to say about anything, because after all, we are the only ones that are sane, believe in science, and empirical evidence, and true investigative journalism, and freedom and equality, and the rule of law.  We are sane, they are crazy wack-jobs, so I don&#8217;t give two s&#8211;ts about anything they have to say.  I have no interest in talking to them, or negotiating with them, or in give-and-take with them, or in accepting any of their bulls&#8211;t corporate public relations firm-paid messaging of framing on any issue.”</p>
<p><strong>Chris Matthews</strong>: &#8220;Do you think Rick Perry would be for that? Do you think he&#8217;d be cheering for Ike today if he brought the troops in to desegregate the schools in Little Rock? I don&#8217;t think so!</p>
<p><strong>Rippa</strong> (liberal blogger): “President Obama Confronted By Iowa Tea Party Crazies;  Listen Barack, by now you should know that you can&#8217;t reason with these people. Nothing they say is ever rooted in reality. Yes, most of them live in some alternate universe &#8211; they don&#8217;y understand context, don&#8217;t care about context, and they&#8217;re just plain dumb&#8230;Like I said, these knuckle-draggers just won&#8217;t get it; hell, they&#8217;ve already proven just how intellectually, and ideologically bankrupt they are. I don&#8217;t give a damn what they say: anybody willing to crash the economy, force the country into default is a damn terrorist in my book. But let them tell it, they&#8217;re patriotic”</p>
<p><em><strong>Crazy Muslims:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Al-Qaida</strong> in Iraq statement: &#8220;By God&#8217;s will, the campaign starts in the middle of the fasting month (of Ramadan) and ends by God&#8217;s will after 100 attacks exactly&#8230;[this campaign would include] varied attacks, including raids, martyrdom operations (suicide attacks), roadside bombs, silenced guns and snipers, in all cities, rural areas and provinces.&#8221;  We are about halfway through Ramadan.</p>
<p><strong>HAMAS</strong> on their 2-year truce with Israel: &#8220;There is no longer any truce with the enemy.&#8221;</p>
<p>An unnamed person at a <strong>Jiahdist</strong> website suggested that Muslims bomb military funerals in the United States: “There is no doubt that targeting America in these times will have a significant impact in hastening its withdrawal from the countries it occupies, on top of which is Afghanistan.”  This person also points out that there is little or no security at these funerals.</p>
<p><em><strong>Liberals making sense:</strong></em></p>
<p>Rep. <strong>Peter DeFazio</strong> (D-OR): &#8220;I&#8217;ve just done six town hall meetings, have seven to go but people are shaking their head and saying &#8216;I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;d vote for him again.&#8217;  One guy asked me&#8230; give me 25 words what he&#8217;s about and what he&#8217;s done for me. I&#8217;m like&#8230; it could have been worse?&#8221;</p>
<p>Economist and Obama supporter <strong>Jeffrey Sachs</strong>: &#8220;We&#8217;re almost three years into this administration, and there&#8217;s never been a plan. And that&#8217;s what everybody feels. And the president didn&#8217;t lead. He waited. The quintessential image, sadly, of an administration that I supported and hoped for much better, is the president waiting by the phone to hear what Congress calls to tell him. It doesn&#8217;t work in this country that way. It&#8217;s not a matter that it&#8217;s August. It&#8217;s a matter that it&#8217;s August 2011. So we&#8217;ve been drifting for a very long time. And we&#8217;ve been drifting down. And we had a short-term plan that failed. A short-term stimulus that was supposed to get the economy back on track, but it failed. And now we have nothing behind it. And we have no agreements, and we have no leadership. And, frankly, I do think it&#8217;s pretty odd the president&#8217;s on vacation right now. Normally I wouldn&#8217;t care about such things, but the world markets are in deep crisis. It&#8217;s no joke. This isn&#8217;t just an up-and-down little blip. This is a very serious situation.&#8221;</p>
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<p><strong>Maureen Dowd</strong>: “Americans are rattled and want action. They don&#8217;t know or care what Congress&#8217;s schedule is. They just see the president not doing anything.  Cruising white Midwestern hamlets in his black bus, Obama tried to justify not calling lawmakers back to D.C. by saying they&#8217;d just continue to bicker. But what does he think they&#8217;ll do in September? The truth is, he doesn&#8217;t want them back in the capital any more than they want to be back. It would have screwed up his vacation and upset Michelle, who already feels trapped in the Washington bubble.”</p>
<p><em><strong>Crosstalk:</strong></em></p>
<p>From Obama’s listening tour:<br />
TEA party leader, <strong>Ryan Rhodes</strong>: A balanced budget is reasonable.</p>
<p><strong>President Obama</strong>: Where&#8230;? N-n-no. No. N-no.</p>
<p><strong>Rhodes</strong>: I didn&#8217;t appreciate what he said.</p>
<p><strong>Obama</strong>: No no. B-b-b-but&#8230; But&#8230; but&#8230; but&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Rhodes</strong>: I didn&#8217;t appreciate it. This started &#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Obama</strong>: A-a-a-all he was saying was&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Rhodes</strong>: That started it. I didn&#8217;t appreciate you letting him.</p>
<p><strong>Woman</strong>: (screeching) Stay strong, president!</p>
<p><strong>Rhodes</strong>: That started it.</p>
<p><strong>Woman</strong>: Stay strong!</p>
<p><strong>Obama</strong>: No, no, no, no. He&#8230; he &#8230; he &#8230; he wasn&#8217;t objecting to a bal &#8212; the Balanced Budget Amendment. He was objecting to us almost defaulting.</p>
<p><strong>Rhodes</strong>: Then why doesn&#8217;t somebody pass a balanced budget?</p>
<p><strong>Obama</strong>: Uh&#8230; uh&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>Rhodes</strong>: We could pass that and nothing else.</p>
<p><strong>Obama</strong>: It doesn&#8217;t sound like you&#8217;re interested in listening.<br />
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<p>Unidentified <strong>reporter</strong> at the Iowa state fair: &#8220;When you said we need a president who loves America, were you suggesting the current president does not love America?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Governor Rick Perry</strong>:  “You need to ask him.”</p>
<p><strong>Reporter</strong>: “Are you suggesting he does not love America?”</p>
<p><strong>Perry</strong>:  “I&#8217;m saying you&#8217;re a good reporter, go ask him.”</p>
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<p><strong>John Roberts</strong>, FoxNews correspondent: “President Obama has been taking heat from the Congressional Black Caucus over the epidemic of unemployment on his watch, though the chairman admits he&#8217;s given the nation first African-American president, a bit of a break.”</p>
<p>Rep. <strong>Emanuel Cleaver</strong>, (D-mo) Congressional Black Caucus Chairman: “If George Bush were the president, we&#8217;d probably be marching on the White House.”</p>
<p><em><strong>Conservatives:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>George Will</strong>: “The most historic blunder this president made was his stimulus package which discredited the idea of stimulus packages by being an amalgam of all the liberal appetites stored up over 30 years. Therefore, when he says, as he did in that sound bite, we need to do this, this, and this, all the country hears is stimulus, and they say, ‘Been there, done that.’ ”</p>
<p><strong>George Will</strong>: “You referred to the Hoover Dam, great achievement of the &#8217;30s. You couldn&#8217;t build the Hoover Dam today because they&#8217;d discover a snail darter in the Colorado River and would stop it.”</p>
<p>Speaker of the House <strong>John Boehner</strong> to <strong>President Obama</strong> on Twitter: &#8220;We really don&#8217;t need another speech &#8212; just a plan, like, on paper. Seriously, just drop it in the mail. Podium not required. Thanks.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>George Will</strong>: “Texas is to the Republicans as California is to the Democrats.”</p>
<p>Arizona Gov. <strong>Jan Brewer</strong>: &#8220;The Obama administration cannot get its amnesty schemes through Congress, so now it has resorted to implementing its plans via executive fiat.  We need to remind President Obama that we elected a president that serves beneath the law and did not anoint a king that is above the law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Republican Reps. <strong>Michael McCaul</strong>: &#8220;It&#8217;s just the latest attempt by this president to bypass the intended legislative process when he does not get his way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Republican Rep. <strong>Lamar Smith</strong> of Texas: &#8220;The Obama administration should enforce immigration laws, not look for ways to ignore them.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rick Perry</strong>: &#8220;And if I hurt the president&#8217;s feelings, well, with all due respect, I love my country and I love future generations more than I care about his feelings.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rick Perry</strong>: &#8220;It&#8217;s the height of hypocrisy for this president to call anyone a marginal performer. If anyone is a marginal performer, it&#8217;s him. He has downgraded the good name and credit of this country.  Talk about someone who has marginalized America.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rick Perry</strong>: &#8220;I do believe that the issue of global warming has been politicized. I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. I think we&#8217;re seeing it almost weekly or even daily, scientists who are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change. Yes, our climates change. They&#8217;ve been changing ever since the earth was formed. But I do not buy into, that a group of scientists, who in some cases were found to be manipulating this data.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush Limbaugh</strong>: &#8220;It really is amazing how a familiarity and a knowledge of the Constitution will so illustrate the follies of liberalism and the Democrat Party.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush Limbaugh</strong>: &#8220;According to the regime, unemployment benefits stimulate the economy and create jobs.  Now food stamps stimulate the economy and create jobs.  Next, they will try to tell us that higher taxes stimulate the economy and create jobs. Oh, already did.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;Obamas&#8217;s riding around with 40 vehicles. That&#8217;s not just a carbon footprint; that&#8217;s a carbon boot-print, from our first green president. This is the kind of hypocrisy that used to be able to make Algore blush.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;Taxes are like a cancer out there.  The idea that we are not paying our fair share is so absurd.  The problem is, or the fault is the irresponsibility of the people managing all of it.&#8221;</p>
<p><em><strong>Conservatives from the Past:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>George Orwell</strong>: “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals could believe them.”</p>
<p><em><strong>Conservatives not making any sense:</strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Jon Huntsman</strong> tweet: &#8220;To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy.&#8221;  Huntsman would be an outstanding Democrat; one I might even vote for, depending upon the other side.</p>
<p>NJ Governor <strong>Chris Christie</strong>:  &#8220;climate change is real&#8230;[and] human activity plays a role in these changes&#8230; [and climate change is] impacting our state.&#8221;</p>
<p>From Conservative Review #192  (<a href="http://kukis.org/blog/ConservativeReview192.htm">HTML</a>)  (<a href="http://kukis.org/blog/ConservativeReview192.pdf">PDF</a>)</p>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Kukis</dc:creator>
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<strong>Ed Schultz</strong>: "You see, being from the south, you know what these code words are all about. To say something about food stamps is not about white folks, it's about black folks. There's no question about it."

<strong>Herb Kohl</strong>: “A 401(k) savings account should not be used as a piggy bank.” <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/05/24/say-what-may-24-2011-edition-reader-post/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<em><strong>Liberals: </strong></em></center></p>
<p>Senate Majority Leader <strong>Harry Reid</strong>: &#8220;There&#8217;s no need to have a Democratic budget in my opinion.  It would be foolish for us to do a budget at this stage.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Ed Schultz</strong>: &#8220;You see, being from the south, you know what these code words are all about. To say something about food stamps is not about white folks, it&#8217;s about black folks. There&#8217;s no question about it.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Herb Kohl</strong>: “A 401(k) savings account should not be used as a piggy bank.”</p>
<p>Senator <strong>Richard Blumenthal</strong>, speaking in favor of confirming Goodwin Liu to the bench: &#8220;There is no Asian-American member on the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Harry Reid </strong>noted of <strong>Goodwin Liu</strong> after meeting with him: &#8220;The court of appeals is where law is made, and we need the finest minds in the world for that.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Sally Kohn</strong>, on all of the waivers issued for Obamacare: “It proves that it [Obamacare] works.”</p>
<p><strong>President Obama</strong>: &#8220;Since April 4, U.S. participation has consisted of: (1) non-kinetic support to the NATO-led operation, including intelligence, logistical support, and search and rescue assistance; (2) aircraft that have assisted in the suppression and destruction of air defenses in support of the no-fly zone; and (3) since April 23, precision strikes by unmanned aerial vehicles against a limited set of clearly defined targets in support of the NATO-led coalition&#8217;s efforts.&#8221;  Translation: “I do not need Congressional approval for what I am doing in Libya.”</p>
<p><strong>President Obama</strong>: &#8220;We do not want a democratic Egypt to be saddled by the debts of its past.  So we will relieve a democratic Egypt of up to $1 billion in debt and work with our Egyptian partners to invest these resources to foster growth and entrepreneurship.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Obama</strong>, understanding that Israel cannot negociate with terrorists, and then urging Israel to negociate with terrorists: “Now, I have said repeatedly that core issues can only be negotiated in direct talks between the parties.  And I indicated on Thursday that the recent agreement between Fatah and Hamas poses an enormous obstacle to peace.  <strong>No country can be expected to negotiate with a terrorist organization sworn to its destruction</strong>.  We will continue to demand that Hamas accept the basic responsibilities of peace: recognizing Israel&#8217;s right to exist, rejecting violence, and adhering to all existing agreements.  And we once again call on Hamas to release Gilad Shalit, who has been kept from his family for five long years.  And yet, <strong>no matter how hard it may be to start meaningful negotiations under the current circumstances, we must acknowledge that a failure to try is not an option</strong>. The status quo is unsustainable. That is why, on Thursday, I stated publicly the principles that the United States believes can provide a foundation for negotiations toward an agreement to end the conflict and all claims &#8211; the broad outlines of which have been known for many years, and have been the template for discussions between the United States, Israelis, and Palestinians since at least the Clinton Administration.”  [emphasis mine]  Luckily, this man only has 2 sides of his mouth to work with.</p>
<p><strong>Peace protestor</strong> at <strong>Medina Benjamin</strong>’s small gathering: “Now we are working hand in glove with the Palestinian authority.”</p>
<p>Media Matters Senior Foreign Policy Fellow <strong>MJ Rosenberg</strong> (pretending to be a newsperson) tweeted: “I love hearing a terrorist [Netanyahu] decry terrorism.”</p>
<p><strong>Dr. Addison Montgomery</strong> (played by actress <strong>Kate Walsh</strong>, a real-life Planned Parenthood activist), on ABC&#8217;s &#8220;Private Practice,&#8221; as a part of the show:  &#8220;I hate what I&#8217;m about to do, but I support Patty&#8217;s right to choose.  It is not enough just to have an opinion, because in a nation of over 300 million people, there are only 1700 abortion providers. And I&#8217;m one of them.&#8221;</p>
<p><em><strong>Liberals from the past: </strong></em></p>
<p>PBS host <strong>Tavis Smiley</strong> said on MSNBC: &#8220;I said over a year ago that this was going to be, this presidential race, Lawrence, was going to be the ugliest, the nastiest, the most divisive, and the most racist in the history of this Republic.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Goodwin Liu</strong>, blocked court nominee: &#8220;Judge Alito&#8217;s record envisions an America where police may shoot and kill an unarmed boy to stop him from running away with a stolen purse; where federal agents may point guns at ordinary citizens during a raid, even after no sign of resistance.&#8221;  Liu later apologized for this statement.</p>
<p><em><strong>Liberals being civil: </strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Bill Maher</strong>, on the IMF rape scandal: &#8220;<strong>This could be a teaching moment, could it not for the teabaggers?</strong> Or maybe all of America &#8211; who don&#8217;t understand that socialism doesn&#8217;t mean we&#8217;re going to come to your house and make you work on a collective farm. You know, in Europe, socialism is just another political party and it doesn&#8217;t mean that we&#8217;re against making a profit. It just means that government takes over certain things like hospitals and prisons, and the military, schools &#8211; and things that should not be run for profit.&#8221; [emphasis mine]</p>
<p>MSNBC union guest <strong>Damon Silvers</strong>: “[Republicans] literally deny clothing to foster kids to give rich people tax cuts.&#8221;</p>
<p><em><strong>Liberals making sense: </strong></em></p>
<p>Former New York Mayor <strong>Ed Koch</strong>: &#8220;I believed that then-Senator Obama would be as good as John McCain based on his statements at the time and based on his support of Israel. It turns out I was wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Jon Tester</strong> on removing debit card swipe fees: “Now, I&#8217;m not asking to repeal these rules &#8211; or even change them.   All I&#8217;m asking for is that we take a closer look &#8211; so that we truly understand all impacts, intended and unintended.”</p>
<p><strong>Eugene Robinson</strong> (actually making a little sense): “They want an American where we take care of the elderly; we take care of the poor; we give them the retirement they thought they were paying for in social security&#8230;and we take care of their physical health.  I think people are saying, they want that kind of America—they don’t necessarily want to pay for it.”</p>
<p><em><strong>Crosstalk: </strong></em></p>
<p><strong>President Barack Obama</strong>: &#8220;We believe the borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states.  The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their full potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Hamas</strong> spokesman in the Gaza Strip, <strong>Sami Abu-Zuhri</strong>: &#8220;The (Arab) nation does not need a lesson on democracy from Obama.  Rather, Obama is the one who needs the lesson given his absolute endorsement of Israel&#8217;s crimes and his refusal to condemn Israel&#8217;s occupation.  We will not recognize the Israeli occupation under any circumstances.  We object to intervention in our internal affairs.&#8221;</p>
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<p><strong>Chris Wallace</strong>: “What would President Cain offer the Palestinians to make pace?”</p>
<p><strong>Herman Cain</strong>: “Nuthin.”  Adding: &#8220;I&#8217;m not convinced that the Palestinians are really interested in peace.&#8221;</p>
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<p>After playing a clip of <strong>Sarah Palin</strong> discussing <strong>Newt Gingrich</strong> on Fox News, <strong>Chris Matthews</strong> said, &#8220;This is so pathetic, watching her on television. It&#8217;s so pathetic that Roger Ailes has put her on television.&#8221;</p>
<p>The next morning Fox News Chairman &amp; CEO <strong>Roger Ailes</strong> replied: &#8220;People tell me all the time it was truly pathetic that I was the one who gave Chris Matthews his start on television.&#8221;</p>
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<strong>David Gregory</strong>, &#8220;Meet the Press&#8221; host: I just want to make a point here. Joe, I disagree with you. This is not just the view of the White House in terms of what they think Israel ought to accept. This also reflects prominent views within Israel that this speech was actually good news for the Israeli government for some of the points that have already been laid out here.</p>
<p><strong>Joe Scarborough</strong>, Host: Obviously, we talked about earlier, on the minds of a lot of people inside the White House and the state department is the U.N. vote coming up this fall, David, and this is seen as leverage obviously for that. We&#8217;ve talked about that. But you said this is also seen as good news for some in Israel. What major Israeli public figures have come out supporting the President&#8217;s speech?</p>
<p><strong>Gregory</strong>: Well, I (stammers), I don&#8217;t think there have been major public figures that have, but some of the commentary that&#8217;s coming out of (stammers) the commentary in the press there and others who are looking at the situation are, are recognizing that some of these factors diplomatically are actually positive for Netanyahu.  [translation: no one that I can name]</p>
<p><em><strong>Conservatives: </strong></em></p>
<p>Presidential candidate <strong>Herman Cain</strong>: &#8220;I have spent my entire adult life creating private sector jobs, so I know what it takes to get businesses hiring again.  It&#8217;s time for a return to our Constitutional principles of limited government and individual freedom, coupled with free market principles that have long made America the envy of the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Congressman <strong>Paul Ryan</strong> to <strong>David Gregory</strong>: “I don&#8217;t consult polls to tell me what my principles are or what our policies should be. Leaders change the polls, and we are leading in the House. We are not seeing this kind of leadership from the President of the United States. The Senate Democrats haven&#8217;t even proposed or passed a budget for 753 days and we have a budget crisis. So, yes, we are going to lead and we are going to try and move these polls and change these polls, because that&#8217;s what the country wants.”</p>
<p><strong>John Boehner</strong>: “Without significant spending cuts and reforms to reduce our debt, there will be no debt limit increase. ”</p>
<p><strong>John Boehner</strong>: &#8220;It&#8217;s true that allowing America to default would be irresponsible, but it would be more irresponsible to raise the debt ceiling without simultaneously taking dramatic steps to reduce spending and reform the budget process.  To increase the debt limit without simultaneously addressing the drivers of our debt &#8212; in defiance of the will of our people &#8212; would be monumentally arrogant and massively irresponsible.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rand Paul</strong>: &#8220;With regard to the idea of whether you have a right to healthcare, you have to realize what that implies. It&#8217;s not an abstraction. I&#8217;m a physician. That means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me.  It means you believe in slavery. It means that you&#8217;re going to enslave not only me, but the janitor at my hospital, the person who cleans my office, the assistants who work in my office, the nurses.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Newt Gingrich</strong>: &#8220;You want to be a country that creates food stamps, in which case frankly Obama&#8217;s is an enormous success; the most successful food stamp president in American history.  Or do you want to be a country that creates paychecks?&#8221;</p>
<p>Rep. <strong>Elena Ros-Lehtinen</strong>, the chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee: &#8220;I am deeply concerned that the president did not rule out providing aid to Egypt if the Muslim Brotherhood is part of the government.  The U.S. should only provide assistance to Egypt after we know that Egypt&#8217;s new government will not include the Muslim Brotherhood and will be democratic, pro-American and committed to abiding by peace agreements with Israel.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rand Pau</strong>l &#8220;For President Obama to stand up today and insist that Israel should once again give up land, security and sovereignty for the possibility of peace shows an arrogance that is unmatched even in our rich history of foreign policy.  If we could learn just one thing from our failures to impose policies on the Middle East over the years, it should be this: We aren&#8217;t very good at it.”</p>
<p>Former New Mexico Gov. <strong>Gary Johnson</strong>, who is running for president, posted this message: &#8220;Pres. Obama: $2B in loan guarantees for Egypt&#8217;. Guaranteed with WHAT?? We&#8217;re broke. Who will guarantee our guarantee??&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Charles Krauthammer</strong> on the end of the world: “You can eat red meat, you don’t have to exercise or floss.”  [quoted from memory]</p>
<p><strong>Robert Gates</strong> on information leaked about the SEAL operation: “There were too many people in too many places saying too much.”</p>
<p><strong>Robert Mullins</strong> on the bin Laden raid: “It is time to stop talking—we have talked too much about this.” [quoted from memory]</p>
<p><strong>Rush Limbaugh</strong> on <strong>Newt Gingrich</strong> apparently dissing Paul Ryan’s budget plan: “There is no explanation for this—I am as befuddled as anyone else is.”</p>
<p>Israeli-born Kiss Rocker <strong>Gene Simmons</strong> on Obama’s Israel Policy: &#8220;He has no f***g idea what the world is like&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush Limbaugh</strong>: &#8220;Obama obviously thought he was talking to a Republican, and he thought Bibi was gonna be like your average Republican: Just sit there and take it, and try to be nice, and not say anything, and let Obama get away with it all.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush Limbaugh</strong>: &#8220;We have to find a birth certificate for Netanyahu in Hawaii. We&#8217;ve gotta be able to establish that he was born in this country so he can run for the GOP nomination.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;Wouldn&#8217;t you love to be a fly on the wall in the Oval Office today when Netanyahu shows up there?  A fly with a great comprehension of Hebrew cuss words.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;The Arab Spring is an uprising against Israel.  It&#8217;s not a flowering of democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;How many Middle East rulers has Obama now told to step down?  Mubarak, Khadafy, and now Bashar Assad.  Is this the same Barack Obama who used lecture us on how we shouldn&#8217;t meddle in the internal affairs of other nations?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;If the era of Reagan is over, then the era of conservatism is over.  You cannot separate the two.  You can&#8217;t claim to be a conservative and out of the other side of your mouth say the era of Reagan is over.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;Mexican authorities found two trucks on the way to the United States which were crammed with 513 illegal aliens.  So the Democrat get-out-the-vote campaign has already begun in earnest.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Rush</strong>: &#8220;At 3,000 bucks we almost could excuse Dominique Strauss-Kahn for thinking the maid was included.&#8221;</p>
<p><em><strong>Conservatives not making any sense: </strong></em></p>
<p><strong>Newt Gingrich</strong>: “I&#8217;m against Obamacare, which is imposing radical change, and I would be against a conservative imposing radical change.”  Newt was characterizing Paul Ryan’s budget as radical change.  He has since tried to walk back his remarks, with limited success.</p>
<p><strong>New Gingrich</strong> on this statement: &#8220;Any ad which quotes what I said Sunday is a falsehood.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Israel is the most stalwart and most dependable US ally in the Gulf. Over the last 16 months Barack Obama has made it clear that the US no longer holds Israel in the same light as it has for so long. Today Michael Goodwin voiced something that has been in my mind as well. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/anti_israel_sharks_sniff_weakness_n5AbqK6bk6NHcy6qEWK5jJ#ixzz0phPKSy8o"><strong>Anti-Israel sharks sniff O&#8217;s weakness</strong></a></p>
<blockquote><p>In the aftermath of the Gaza flotilla fiasco, the air is thick with nonsense. Chief among the instant myths is that Israel has created a dilemma for President Obama. </p>
<p>Actually, it&#8217;s the other way around. </p>
<p>The president&#8217;s appeasement policies helped to create the incident. Israel took the bait, but the trap was set in Washington. </p>
<p>Weakness always begets aggression, and, like clockwork, Obama&#8217;s repeated signals that he is weakening America&#8217;s commitment to Israel are emboldening the Jewish state&#8217;s enemies. From Syria to Iran to Lebanon, from Hezbollah to Hamas and the PLO, the wolves smell blood and are trying to gauge whether they can get close enough for the kill. </p></blockquote>
<p>America has been diminished by Obama, whether he is bowing to Arab Kings or Chinese Communist leaders or endlessly scratching new lines in the sand for Ahmedinejad to step over. He has signaled to the world that we have lost it. He doesn&#8217;t want the US to be the beacon for the world any longer. He wants to be liked, not respected. Now that frivolity is getting really dangerous, as Obama once again votes &#8220;present&#8221; on the flotilla incident: <span id="more-38807"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>Obama says he wants the facts of the incident, but let&#8217;s hope he also wants the truth, even if it is inconvenient to his worldview. </p></blockquote>
<p>As predictable as the sunrise, Obama&#8217;s first reaction to events is wrong. The facts are right there and have always been right there. Israel has allowed humanitarian aid to enter Gaza for some time.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/26/israel-allows-humanitaria_n_153539.html">Israel Allows Humanitarian Aid Into Gaza</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hhKbVsPGHqwtZNryof9Modw5q9Gg">Israel allows humanitarian aid into battered Gaza</a></p>
<p>But let&#8217;s go back a second.</p>
<p>In 2005 Israel <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/09/12/world/main833999.shtml">departed Gaza</a>.</p>
<p>Gaza celebrated the Israeli withdrawal by firing off rockets- into Israel. The celebration continues to this day. </p>
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<p>Note the increase in <a href="http://markhumphrys.com/gaza.html">missile attacks upon Israel&#8217;s departure from Gaza</a>.</p>
<p>The blockade was instituted in response to the continued rocket assault on Israel by Hamas, yet the flow of aid into Hamas has not been halted. On the other hand, Hamas has <a href="http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-03/hamas-refuses-israel-s-delivery-of-flotilla-supplies-update1-.html">refused the aid</a> carried in those ships. </p>
<blockquote><p>Hamas said it wouldn’t take the aid because Israel confiscated some of the supplies and was still holding some of the more than 700 passengers involved in the May 31 attempt to break Israel’s naval blockade of Gaza.</p></blockquote>
<p>So Hamas is holding its own people hostage in rataliation for Israel detaining some of the foreigners who tried to run the blockade. <em>Oy vey.</em></p>
<p>A search for &#8220;Israel attacks flotilla&#8221; yields <a href="http://www.google.com/#hl=en&amp;q=israel+attacks+flotilla&amp;aq=0z&amp;aqi=g-z3g7&amp;aql=&amp;oq=israel+attacks&amp;gs_rfai=&amp;fp=62c7546c9e19fcb7">7,000,000</a> hits. </p>
<p>5 of the 6 ships in the flotilla were searched without incident. The IDF, armed only with paintball guns, was attacked on the 6th ship, yet the media almost universally portrays it as &#8220;Israel attacks.&#8221; It&#8217;s not only the US media who is smarmy and biased. This flotilla has nothing to do with humantarian aid. It&#8217;s all about putting Israel into a bad PR situation, knowing Obama has become an empty Presidential suit. </p>
<p>There should be no backing down from this blockade- not as long as Hamas rains missiles down on Israel. Obama should stand up for Israel, not squirm as he is doing right now.</p>
<p>Curiously ignored is the fact that Egypt <a href="http://www1.albawaba.com/en/news/egypt-seals-gaza-strip-border">sealed its border</a> with Gaza. When did this happen? When Hamas took control of Gaza. Egypt has indicated it might <a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/news.aspx/137818">re-open its borders</a> to allow aid into the area. </p>
<p>But only &#8220;for several days.&#8221;</p>
<p>The flotilla was organized by the &#8220;<a href="http://www.freegaza.org/">Free Gaza</a>&#8221; movement. And who helped encourage &#8220;Free Gaza&#8221;?<br />
<a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/ayers-dohrn-helped-organize-flotilla-group-95435639.html"><br />
Bill Ayers, Bernadine Dohrn and Code Pink&#8217;s Jodie Evans</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Free Gaza&#8221;</p>
<p>To do what? Gaza is ruled by Hamas. Hamas&#8217; 1988 charter called for the <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64T2AM20100530">end of Israel</a>.</p>
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The movement had said it could live peacefully alongside Israel if a two-state solution was reached in which all occupied Palestinian land was returned, even though its 1988 founding charter calls for the destruction of Israel and the establishment of a Palestinian state in all of pre-1948 British-mandate Palestine.</p></blockquote>
<p>If they really want to get humanitarian supplies into Gaza, perhaps the aid should be disguised as missiles. There seems to be no problem getting missiles into Gaza.</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t Tell Me Obama Isn&#8217;t A Marxist [Reader Post]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In an earlier post we learned that the Obama camp was busted having a flag of Commie Cuban thug, Che Guevara, prominently displayed on the wall in its Houston campaign office. In case you missed it, here&#8217;s a helpful reminder. &#8230; <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/15/dont-tell-me-obama-isnt-a-marxist/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>In an earlier <a href="http://patriotroom.com/?p=113">post</a> we learned that the Obama camp was busted having a flag of Commie Cuban thug, Che Guevara, prominently displayed on the wall in its Houston campaign office.  In case you missed it, here&#8217;s a helpful reminder.</p>
<p><center><img src='http://patriotroom.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/che.JPG' alt='Che Guevara flag in Obama HQ in Texas' /></center></p>
<p>The video link is <a href="http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=5700252&amp;version=1&amp;locale=EN-US&amp;layoutCode=VSTY&amp;pageId=1.1.1">here</a> of the news report from which it came (<em>Ed &#8211; Video and post on this subject can also be seen here at <a href="http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/11/che-obama/">Flopping Aces</a></em>).  Note that the news story was simply about the opening of the campaign office and mentioned nothing about the flag. <span id="more-5588"></span></p>
<p>Now from Gabriel Malor at <a href="http://minx.cc/?blog=86&amp;post=266585">Ace</a> we have another example of a Communist Obama supporter.  This guy is a <em>judge</em>, in Ohio.<P><br />
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<p>When did it become okay for an American judge to have a picture of a Communist in his chambers?</p>
<p>More importantly, when did it become okay for an American presidential candidate to be overtly supported by Communists and nobody find that utterly disqualifying for the job?  What the hell is going on?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t it disturb anyone that these brazen Communists support Obama&#8217;s platform and policies?  They <em>agree</em> with his policies.  They <em>want</em> him to be elected. </p>
<p>By the way, the Communists advocate the overthrow of the United States. </p>
<p>We know from this <a href="http://patriotroom.com/?p=425">post</a>, that Hamas, a terrorist group, supports Obama and wants him to be elected.</p>
<p>Am I the only one that worries that America&#8217;s enemies support the presumptive Democrat nominee for president of the United States?  How many do you think support McCain?</p>
<p>Also find Bill Dupray at <a href="http://patriotroom.com/">The Patriot Room</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This video came out, uhhh, early in the, uhhh, primaries, but now that Dr. Smooth is the, umm, presumptive nominee and more people will start, uhhh, paying attention, it may be worth a careful second look. Warning: He&#8217;s flying solo &#8230; <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2008/06/12/obama-i-will-have-credibility-with-muslim-world/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p>This video came out, uhhh, early in the, uhhh, primaries, but now that Dr. Smooth is the, umm, presumptive nominee and more people will start, uhhh, paying attention, it may be worth a careful second look.  </p>
<p>Warning:  He&#8217;s flying solo without the Teleprompter.</p>
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<p>He says he will have credibility in the Muslim World because he lived there. <span id="more-5574"></span></p>
<p>In an <a href="http://select.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/opinion/06kristof.html?_r=1&amp;pagewanted=print&amp;oref=slogin">interview</a> with the New York Times, he noted that when he lived in Indonesia, he attended a Muslim school, learned the Indonesian language (which he still speaks), and studied the Koran.  He can still recite the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer and recited them &#8220;with a first-rate accent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nicest of all, Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”</p>
<p>From <a href="http://grandoldpartisan.typepad.com/blog/2008/02/barack-obama.html?cid=105080378">Grand Old Partisan</a>, the opening lines accompanying that prettiest soundtrack.</p>
<blockquote><p>Allah is Supreme!  Allah is Supreme!<br />
Allah is Supreme!  Allah is Supreme!<br />
I witness that there is no god but Allah<br />
I witness that there is no god but Allah<br />
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>While Obama may have cleaned up his act at the AIPAC conference last week, at the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/14/us/14aipac.html?ref=politics">same conference in March</a>, his &#8220;experience&#8221; (empathy?) concerning Muslims showed through.</p>
<blockquote><p> Less experienced than Mrs. Clinton in the thicket of Jewish and Middle Eastern politics, he became a bit tangled in the eyes of some voters during his appearance Monday at the same conference that Mrs. Clinton attended, a forum sponsored by the America Israel Public Affairs Committee, known as Aipac.</p>
<p>Several Jewish conferencegoers said they were concerned by Mr. Obama’s remark Sunday in Iowa where, in a reference to the Middle East, he said, “<em>Nobody is suffering more than the Palestinian people</em>.” </p></blockquote>
<p>None of which is to say Obama <em>is</em> a Muslim, but one of his grandfathers was a Muslim, and in his formative years he was immersed in the culture.  Isn&#8217;t it legitimate to question his predispositions, sympathies, and biases toward particular groups based on his &#8220;experience?&#8221;  Are we just supposed to accept the positive experiences he says he gained without some of the corollaries that go with them?</p>
<p>He <a href="http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28795&amp;only&amp;rss">told an audience</a> in February. </p>
<blockquote><p>Once I’m elected, I want to organize a summit in the Muslim world, with all the heads of state, to have an honest discussion about ways to bridge the gap that grows every day between Muslims and the West.</p></blockquote>
<p>And what will he tell those Islamo-fascist regimes that have called for the destruction of the United States and Israel?  Picture skinny little Obama, with his <a href="http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/A_Few_Good_Men">Harvard Mouth</a>, telling Ahmadinejad, Assad, and Mubarak that he just wants everyone to get along.  Obama would be the mouse in the snake pit.  He wouldn&#8217;t be able to get the time of day, never mind any diminution of the centuries-old hatred of the the Jews and the West, which passes for Islamic foreign policy.</p>
<p>But there is no doubt he will <a href="http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/04/16/a-hamas-problem-for-obama/">get along just fine with Hamas</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Top Hamas political adviser Ahmed Yousef said the terrorist group supports Obama’s foreign policy vision.</p>
<p>“We don’t mind–actually we like Mr. Obama. We hope he will (win) the election and I do believe he is like John Kennedy, great man with great principle, and he has a vision to change America to make it in a position to lead the world community but not with domination and arrogance,” Yousef said . . . </p></blockquote>
<p>So are we to be faulted for suggesting that if Obama&#8217;s experience growing up in a Muslim country gives him credibility with the Muslim world, that the other side of that coin makes him the preferred choice of Muslims, terrorist or otherwise? </p>
<p>Would his credibility in the Muslim world work to the detriment of our world?</p>
<p>H/T <a href="http://www.theobamafile.com/">The Obama File </a></p>
<p>Also find Bill Dupray at <a href="http://patriotroom.com/">The Patriot Room</a>.</p>
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