Ed Morrissey:
Here’s the inevitable follow-up on the election of a Socialist to the Seattle City Council — although perhaps sooner than anyone would have thought. Boeing has tried working for years with its unions in the state of Washington, but still cannot reach agreements on labor contracts for its manufacturing facilities. The aerospace giant has looked for other regions in the US to build its planes, which has angered the unions and the Obama administration. It’s also provided an opportunity for Seattle’s newest councilmember to launch her anti-capitalist agenda, and she’s wasted no time in doing so … even before officially taking office:
Seattle City Councilmember-elect Kshama Sawant told Boeing machinists her idea of a radical option, should their jobs be moved out of state
“The workers should take over the factories, and shut down Boeing’s profit-making machine,” Sawant announced to a cheering crowd of union supporters in Seattle’s Westlake Park Monday night. …
On Monday night, she spoke to supporters of Boeing Machinists, six days after they rejected a contract guaranteeing jobs in Everett building the new 777X airliner for eight years, in exchange for new workers giving up their guaranteed company pensions.
Now Boeing is threatening to take those jobs to other states. “That will be nothing short of economic terrorism because it’s going to devastate the state’s economy,” she said.
So what wouldn’t be “economic terrorism”? Seizing the company’s property, of course:
Sawant is calling for machinists to literally take-possession of the Everett airplane-building factory, if Boeing moves out. She calls that “democratic ownership.”
“The only response we can have if Boeing executives do not agree to keep the plant here is for the machinists to say the machines are here, the workers are here, we will do the job, we don’t need the executives. The executives don’t do the work, the machinists do,” she said.
Well, Seattle voters elected her, so they get what they deserve, but perhaps we should point out a couple of inconvenient realities for Sawant. The machinists don’t own the plants, but that’s only just the beginning. Unless the machinists own the designs, they can’t build the planes unless licensed by those who do. And where will they get the raw materials with which to build the planes? Who pays for the energy necessary to operate the machines?
Shut down a profit making machine. Perfect. Then no one eats.
What an idiot.
@DrJohn: She is a socialist. How is this any different than what Representative Maxine Watters (D) said about oil companies?
Marxists on the rise. How strange. Back in the day we fought against that communist ideology. Seems people never study history. If they did, they would discover that communism does not work in any real society..
@Randy:
It is the same. They live and profit under capitalism and then decry it.
The Aesop story about killing the goose that laid golden eggs comes to mind.
See?
Stupidity has always been with us.
Oh, by the way. Goods “manufactured” by Socialist systems are not marketable.
I guess that is just an inconvenient truth.
Is she the first “Occupier” to be elected to any office?
Funny.
Her background was being raised in India in the highest caste in that country!
In the USA she had to deal with merit instead of caste and she failed at her major in computer engineering!
Only then did she become pro-socialist.
History is no longer taught nor emphasized in America’s schools. At least not the real story. This to our imminent peril!
Community Core educaton..heard about it? Moving of Boeing out of state would bankrupt it, than no one eats. Is this fool a us citizen are just another legalized terrorist?
@MOS-8541:
There, I fixed it for you.
Seems to me that for an elected official to be advocating criminal behavior is itself criminal. Arrest her.
She is just another in a series of alien communists. Her name and big mouth tell you all you need to know. If she and her pinkos move on the Boeing property they all should be arrested and she should be sent back to wherever she came from if not imprisoned.
Proof positive that communism = unionism = socialism or
unionism = communism-lite.
YES, and who is responsible for the many problems happening in BOEING PLANES LATELY,
IS IN IT THE WORKERS THEMSELVES PISSING ON BATTERY TO SHOW THEIR ANGER AT THE COMPANY, ARE YOU TAKING US FOR FOOLS, WE SEE CLEAR IN YOUR UNION TACTICS
WHILE COLLECTING THEIR PAY EACH PAYTIME without any computer componant breakeage EVER,
BOEING HAVE BEEN VERY PATIENT WHITH THE UNION’S THUGS ALL THESES YEARS,
THEY EVEN BEEN TAKEN HOSTAGES BY THE UNIONS,
THEY ARE A FINE COMPANY WHICH DOESN’T DISERVE SUCH CRASS AS WHAT THE UNION’S MEMBERS DOES BECAUSE THEY ARE RULE BY UNIONS WHO DON’T PAY THEIR EARNING, BUT COLLECT FROM THEM, it”s grand time that the employees turn on their unions and DECIDE TO WORK FOR WHO PAY THEM, WHICH IS BOEING
instead of being intimidate by an UNION WHO COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT THEIR MEMBERS,
EXCEPT TO INCITE THEM AGAINST THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER COMPANY PROVIDERS,
THEY HAVE SUCCEEDED TO MAKE YOU SCARE OF TURNING AGAINST YOUR UNION WHICH ARE THE TROUBLE MAKERS,
AND HAVE DONE MANY HARMS TO BOEING IN
THESES LAST YEARS, AND THOSE UNIONS HAVE USED YOU EMPLOYEES TO DO IT,
SEATLE WHAT ARE YOU DRINKING? DO YOU WANT TO BECOME
ANOTHER GHOST TOWN?
@ilovebeeswarzone:
I live in the greater Detroit Area and am intimately familiar with how unionism can destroy an industry. It is communism for sure. I believe Seattle made a big mistake electing a communist to its city council, just as NY has elected a communist mayor, just as America has allowed communists into Congress and the WH. This country will learn its lessons the hard way. We need a return from socialism / communism to free enterprise. We have lost our souls to collectivism.
Rick Butkowski
YES i HOPE THEY DON’T WAIT TOO LATE,
it”s already showing signs,
BYE
When William E. Boeing bought Heath’s shipyard in Seattle on the Duwamish River in 1910, which later became his first airplane factory, this country was very different than it is today, and even up through the 1960’s Seattle was a city more attuned to traditional America, than to the craziness that was going on in CA down Route 101 or I-5. But in the 1970s a tidal wave of CA immigrants overwhelmed the city; my father was even thinking of “retiring” up there because, through his aerospace engineer contacts, he could have gotten a consulting job at Boeing; but the CA immigration wave hit just then and house prices went up 25% in one year, so he retired in SC instead and has been very happy there, where he bought a very pretty 4 bedroom brick house with mature trees, an in-ground pool, and semi-circular drive way for $110,000 and never looked back. But at this point Seattle has become Los Angeles v 2.0, just as Godless, arrogant and full of fruit cakes like this one. It would be very costly, because when I was at Digital Equipment Corp in the 1990s, we had a contract to build out a turn-key netword for Boeing, and I heard one of its factory buildings was the largest building in the world, but it should definitely think of following the rest of the aerospace industry, which long ago drop-kicked LA and moved to business friendly GA, TX and other “Sunbelt” states. TN, NC, SC. All of these states would offer a company like Boeing free land, probably a 10 year tax holiday, state paid education of workers, tax credits up the wazu, etc. (very cheap energy compared to Seattle). boeing should do it, pull the plug on Seattle, let them eat cake. They think, like the politicians in CA thought, that their state was so wonderful that no company or certainly an entire industry, would ever leave it. Well CA found out. The whole aerospace industry packed up and left; and Seattle isn’t anywhere near as “wonderful” as LA used to be once upon a time, beautiful Mediterranean climate, no Seattle is a dreary place where it rains every other day. Boeing should just leave, and let those fools in Seattle see how they like it with all those jobs gone forever and all that tax money gone too. To Hell, with those fools. Let them reap what they have sowed!
David Graber
that is very interesting read, thank you,
BOEING had trouble with the unions and it might be the unions want to make them pay,
WHEN THEY HIRED NON UNION EMPLOYEES AND OBAMA GOT IN THE ACT AND FORCE THEM TO FIRE THE 100 NEW EMPLOYEES,
AND TAKE THE UNIONS,
THAT’S HOW BAD IT IS,
To ilovebeeswarzone. I haven’t been following Boeing or the situation up in Seattle at all until I got an e-mail from C2C re: this fruitcake, who is from India, with the Occupy Wall Street t-Shirt, which tells you a lot about her right there. Don’t get me wrong; some of the stuff the Occupy people said was right on the money (no pun intended) but they just couldn’t put together a platform of ideas that made any sense at all; in fact, in a way, the Occupy movement is kind of like a microcosm for the US today, some aging Democrats who still support that party due to its Franklin D. Roosevelt help during the “Great Depression” of 1930-December 7th 1941, when the Japs bombed Pearl harbor and got us into WWII; I tried to talk to my step father, a dailey attendee of Mass and as Salt of the Earth a fellow as you could find, about th democrat’s support for abortion, free birth control for teens, euthanzisia for the aged (the “surplus population” as the British Victorians put it, back when people still said what they blieved and didn’t cloke it in the dissemination of PC America; but he just didn’t want to know. maybe hge was too old. but the working and middle class in the US had had its head in the sand for far too long or this far left-of-center, first of the Democratic Party, and later of the whole country, could never have happened; and the center has been dragged way over to the left. As to the Republicans: It is really two parties, the Tory’s who (since Colonial times, when they fought with British, and I’m proud to say that my ancestors put quite a few of them in the earth down in SC, where m0re battles were fought in the Rev War than any other single state, and the British and their Hessian mercenaries had they fighting spirit broken) are really the Oligarchs and want the rich in power, PERMANTLY. And that is exactly what is going on in this country today. It seems the Oligarchs would rather live in an America that is a 2nd tier world power and economy, as long as they can control it, the in a free and properous America. And sure there are always many populists in the country, who support the common working man, the working and middle classes, but inside the Beltway their are no champion of the working man (and every populist who has made a serious bid for the presidency has been quickly tarred by the entertainment Industry controlled mainstream media, itself owned and operated by the Oligarchs, as either a whacko (Ross Perot) or a Nazi sympathizer (Patrick Buchanon). So we have two polictical parties that are both owned by the rich and the super rich. Hell the 6 heirs of the Walmart empire own wealth equivalent to that of the bottom 30% of the American people. obviously I have stayed from the point, but clashes like those in Seattle and part and parcel with the larger take over that is going on in this country. Boeing is a company that is key to the US’ national security, a major DOD contractor; for reasons of national security alone it should leave that far left-of-center state of WA and go down below the Mason-Dixon line where there are still some patriots. The Unions have been abandoned by the Deomocrats, who are just an funded by and controlled by the Oligarchs as the Tory branch of the Republican Party, and the many Republicans out there is the dwindling and finacially hard pressed suburbs who don’t seem to know that there is a Tory branch, and that they have taken over, and that there is no one in wither party who gives a tinker’s damn about the working men and woman of this country, if fact the elitists revile the middle class, they despise it. “1884” was a correct prediction, he just got a date a bit wrong, and so was the book and film “A Clockwork Orange.” Because we are there.
David Graber
great information in your comment here which is another page from the other previous,
I believe the change we see is influence directly by the TOP LEADERSHIP,
which have changes the foundamental rules which AMERICA WAS SO SUCCESSFUL AT DOING,
that is on many fronts, but I will chose the charity toward the poors, which was done from the knowledge of it’s need and the inherent responsibility to cover that need not being harass by government who have decided to control the money so to themselves do the distribution and even make the poors feel that the rest of working people along with the wealthy business owe it to them, which has decimated the real from heart charity and change the mentality of the recipients as recieving a due instead of being thankfull to the UNKNOWN compassionate PROVIDER, and thrive to find a work even the most humble so to feel free from charity, SAME AS THEY WHERE FORCE TO DO BEFORE THAT KIND OF WELFARE WAS ESTABLISH AS A LAW INSTEAD OF A CHARITY WELL KNOWN GIVEN BY THE PEOPLE,
YOU WOULD SEE MANY SERVICING JOBS SPROUTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD,
FROM SHINING BOOTS AND SHOES TO SERVING FOOD TO CLEANING CLOTHES OR CARRY THE SUITCASE IN BUS OR TRAIN STATON, AND FURTHER MADE SOME MAKE THEIR FORTUNE BECAUSE OF IT’S BEGINING,
and NOW WHAT A CHANGE OF MENTALITY AND WHAT AN INFLUX IN CRIMES YOU SEE THE PRISONS FULL TO CAPACITY, BECAUSE THEY STOLE WHAT THEY THINK IS BEING OWE TO THEM, by doing it the government have taken strong hold on the poors, by delivering the money taken from the people,while filling their pockets in the same time by using part of the money for REdistribution fees,
and insuring the votes coming from the poors who are aggreeing to vote for them no questions ask.
IT”S A LOW LEVEL MENTALITY FROM THE GOVERNMENT AS IT IS MISLEADING THOSE WHO RECIEVE AND GETTING NO SHAME OR EMBARASSMENTS OF TAKING BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE THE GIVER NOT THE PROVIDERS NEVER MENTIONNED,
IT HAS CHANGE A WHOLE SOCIETY MINDSET, AND CHARITY BEHAVIOR, IT HAS TAKEN THE CREDIBILITY IN GOVERNMENT HOLDING THE POWER OF THE TAX MONEY THEY RECIEVE
AND SPEND WRONGFULLY WITHOUT BEING ACCOUNTABLE FOR IT,
WHAT A MESS WE HAVE NOW,
I lived in Washington for the last 9 years of my military career. The state outside of the I5 corridor is conservative. It is the Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia area that is fruitloop/granolahead crazy, but that is where all the Cali wannabees live. The state is doomed to follow the leftwing insanity of California, which is the reason I retired to Texas. I give Boeing at most 5 more years before it moves to a right to work state.
Well, it sounds like you moved to the right place. I collect antique guns and have been to some shows in TX and also sold stuff to people there on the interent, and it seems like a good place to me. Hopefully you are right about Boeing too. But what you say about the crazies and lefties being concentrated in the big cities is true in nearly every state I think. Heck, even here in MA, a real leftist and crazy state; it’s really only eastern MA and the greater Boston area and Peoples Republic of Cambridge that is bad; western Mass is totally different (except the Amherst and Northnampton area, the latter the home of Smith college, one of the last all girl colleges in the country and a bastion of lesbianism. The whole town of Northamton caters to lesbians. But outisde of that is just plain folk; and they have the Big E gun show right in Springfield, MA, home of the Sprinfield Arsenal. And cops are on duty there making sure no one steels anyting I guess, and they don’t bat an eye to people carrying Aks, AR-15s, all kinds of modern guns in and out of the bldg; but if you were carrying a flintlock musket in Boston, you would be arrested because the guy that drafted their tough new gun law says he forgot to put an exemption for antiques, but that makes the law unconstitutional right on its face, as under the federal gun acts of 1934 and 1968, any firearm made before January 1, 1899, is not included within the definition of a firearm (that is the generally acceped date for when smokeless powder came into wide commercial use, or so I am told). Anyway, good luck to you down there in Tejas, and watch out for those twisters.