Romney: we can’t really blame Obama for higher gas prices

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That would be unfair. And ungentlemanly, presumably. This despite the Obama Administration’s stated desire for higher gas prices as a way to ease fuel-guzzling bitterclingers out of their automobiles, this despite their attendant policies that have worked to assure a lower supply, from blocking drilling to nixing pipelines. Not to mention Obama’s own clearly articulated war on coal and electrical power, the costs for which he’s deemed must “necessarily skyrocket.”

Because evidently the demonstrable truth of the effects of poisonous policy now counts as part of some “outrageous” attack on the President. And Mitt Romney is above such things.

– Which, if he keeps going at this rate, the GOP establishment’s preferred candidate will have removed from the table as potentially clarifying GOP/conservative campaign issues TARP, the federal stimulus, individual mandates, First Amendment protections for individuals and religious institutions, Cap-and-trade, and the idea of an involved federal government setting minimum wage laws tied to inflationary rates.

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Romney is castrating himself for the general election. One has to wonder if his goal is to actually win the presidency, or simply be included on the ballot.

And people wonder why I don’t support Romney.

“I think people recognize that the president can’t precisely set the price at the pump,” Romney said in an interview on CNBC.

Is he really that dense? Obama and many Democrats have utopian “green” dreams about a country that suddenly stops using all petroleum products one day with no negative consequences. Sec of Energy Chu wants us all to be paying $8-10 /gallon for gas and driving little Euro bottom-feeder cars by his own words. Obama talked about energy prices necessarallly skyrocketing under his cap and trade boondoggle.
I feel as if I woke up in a bad sic-fi movie.

Please Lord, don’t let us get stuck with this twit as the GOP candidate! We now know where Romney keeps his ba!!s… in Ann’s purse!

Everytime Mittens opens his mouth, he sounds more and more like Obama.

Sheesh! Everyone, write in Sarah!

@Anti-Socialist: “I think people recognize that the president can’t precisely set the price at the pump,” Romney said in an interview on CNBC.

If Romney said that then he is just as adept at building Straw Men then slapping them apart as is Obama.
WHO said that Obama (or any president) can precisely set the price at the pump???
No one, that’s who!

CNBC’s transcript:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46544190

In the context it appears Romney has no problem being critical of Obama’s failures in his energy policies.
ANWR, Keystone, North Dakota, OK, TX, Pennsylvania and Ohio, and also Canada are all mentioned as failures in Obama’s energy policy.

Here is the full quote:
ROMNEY: WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THAT THE PRESIDENT CAN’T PRECISELY SET THE PRICE AT THE PUMP BUT HE CAN DECIDE HOW MUCH OF THE MONEY THAT’S BEING PAID FOR OIL AND GAS IS COMING — IS GOING TO OTHER NATIONS. AND TO GET THAT MONEY STAYING HERE AND TO CREATE JOBS HERE AND TO STABILIZE PRICES HERE, HE OUGHT TO BE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ALL OF OUR OFFSHORE AND ANWAR AND NORTH DAKOTA AND OKLAHOMA AND TEXAS OIL AND GAS RESOURCES INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HOLD THEM OFF. NATURAL GAS IS A HUGE WIN FOR US. AND THROUGH THE EPA, HE’S BEEN TRYING TO HOLD THAT OFF. COAL IS, OF COURSE, A MAJOR SOURCE OF OUR ELECTRIC POWER. HE’S MADE IT MORE DIFFICULT TO GET THE COAL. MORE DIFFICULT TO USE THE COAL. AND, OF COURSE, THE KEYSTONE PIPELINE BRINGING ENERGY IN FROM CANADA, THAT WAS A NO-BRAINER. HE FAILED THAT TEST. IF WE WANT TO GET AMERICA ENERGY SECURE YOU HAVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE ENERGY RESOURCES WE HAVE. AND FORTUNATELY WITH RECENT DISCOVERIES FROM PENNSYLVANIA, NORTH DAKOTA, OKLAHOMA, TEXAS, OHIO, THERE’S A LOT OF ENERGY IN THIS COUNTRY. LET’S TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

@johngalt, after a career of running for leader of free world after being the leader of Kennedy’world, he has to have something to show for it. So I’d guess that at least his name on the ballot would suffice for his scrapbook of accomplishments.

And don’t even attempt to convince me about Romney and coal. His own presence at protests in front of coal plants in MA, plus his choice of energy advisors (one of which who works for Obama, killing coal plants), brings into question his honesty. Then, of course, there’s the time he teamed up with Kennedy to kill the Cape Wind project. Why? Because it would kill their property values.

WTF?

Need we be reminded about his beliefs of AGW, none of which have changed?

Now that is (hopefully) firmly implanted in your mind, picture this same guy, by some fluke, winning… and having him be the incumbent de factor nominee for 2016, too.

Count me sufficiently nauseated. What a waste of eight years in our nation’s most critical times.

@Nan G… that’s an admirable, if not desperate, attempt at a Romney defense. The guy completes with Biden for verbal gaffes. And this is only the primary.

Protein Wisdom nailed it with the following:

…the GOP establishment’s preferred candidate will have removed from the table as potentially clarifying GOP/conservative campaign issues TARP, the federal stimulus, individual mandates, First Amendment protections for individuals and religious institutions, Cap-and-trade, and the idea of an involved federal government setting minimum wage laws tied to inflationary rates.

Yup… the difference is so slight that it’s not worth the price of gas today to drive to a ballot location.

Can you say wrong candidate at the wrong time?

Amazing how you now hate Romney for finally speaking the truth. Very telling.

Obama increased oil drilling and production by 350%. Our number 1 export, up 8%, is….OIL! Talk to the oil companies exporting our oil, idiots.

libdud, maybe you are new here (never sure if that empty mattress you call a brain is in gear…). Or maybe you have the attention span of a gnat. (more likely) But I’ve never liked Romney, and refused to vote for him in both 2008 and 2012.

Speaking of the attention span of a gnat, I see you still resist factual education on oil production in the US. No surprise. So how’s those gas prices working for you, idiot?

@liberalmann:

Obama increased oil drilling and production by 350%. Our number 1 export, up 8%, is….OIL! Talk to the oil companies exporting our oil, idiots.

Repeating the same tired lines, over and over and over, won’t make them come true, liberalmann.

BTW, I’m still waiting patiently for my apology. In case you need to be reminded, on this topic; http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/leaked-bin-laden-not-buried-at-sea-body-moved-on-cia-plane-to-us/#comments
you said this;

: Yeah? How and when did Obama raise taxes? Liar.

I responded with this;

@liberalmann:

Yeah? How and when did Obama raise taxes? Liar.

Funny you should ask, liberalmann. The following is a list of tax increases Obama has signed into law;

1. A 156 percent increase in the federal excise tax on tobacco:

2. Obamacare Individual Mandate Excise Tax While it’s true that Obama and the left initially did not call this a “tax”, their recent court case arguments do

3. Obamacare Employer Mandate Tax (takes effect Jan. 2014): If an employer does not offer health coverage, and at least one employee qualifies for a health tax credit, the employer must pay an additional non-deductible tax of $2000 for all full-time employees.

4. Obamacare Surtax on Investment Income (Tax hike of $123 billion/takes effect Jan. 2013): Creation of a new, 3.8 percent surtax on investment income earned in households making at least $250,000 ($200,000 single).

5. Obamacare Excise Tax on Comprehensive Health Insurance Plans (Tax hike of $32 bil/takes effect Jan. 2018): Starting in 2018, new 40 percent excise tax on “Cadillac” health insurance plans ($10,200 single/$27,500 family).

7. Obamacare Medicine Cabinet Tax (Tax hike of $5 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): Americans no longer able to use health savings account (HSA), flexible spending account (FSA), or health reimbursement (HRA) pre-tax dollars to purchase non-prescription, over-the-counter medicines (except insulin)

10. Obamacare Tax on Medical Device Manufacturers (Tax hike of $20 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Medical device manufacturers employ 360,000 people in 6000 plants across the country. This law imposes a new 2.3% excise tax. Exempts items retailing for <$100.

11. Obamacare “Haircut” for Medical Itemized Deduction from 7.5% to 10% of AGI (Tax hike of $15.2 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013): Currently, those facing high medical expenses are allowed a deduction for medical expenses to the extent that those expenses exceed 7.5 percent of adjusted gross income (AGI). The new provision imposes a threshold of 10 percent of AGI. Waived for 65+ taxpayers in 2013-2016 only.

12. Obamacare Tax on Indoor Tanning Services (Tax hike of $2.7 billion/took effect July 2010): New 10 percent excise tax on Americans using indoor tanning salons.

13. Obamacare elimination of tax deduction for employer-provided retirement Rx drug coverage in coordination with Medicare Part D (Tax hike of $4.5 bil/takes effect Jan. 2013)

14. Obamacare Blue Cross/Blue Shield Tax Hike (Tax hike of $0.4 bil/took effect Jan. 1 2010): The special tax deduction in current law for Blue Cross/Blue Shield companies would only be allowed if 85 percent or more of premium revenues are spent on clinical services.

15. Obamacare Excise Tax on Charitable Hospitals (Min$/took effect immediately): $50,000 per hospital if they fail to meet new “community health assessment needs,” “financial assistance,” and “billing and collection” rules set by HHS.

16. Obamacare Tax on Innovator Drug Companies (Tax hike of $22.2 bil/took effect Jan. 2011): $2.3 billion annual tax on the industry imposed relative to share of sales made that year.

17. Obamacare Tax on Health Insurers (Tax hike of $60.1 bil/takes effect Jan. 2014): Annual tax on the industry imposed relative to health insurance premiums collected that year.

18. Obamacare $500,000 Annual Executive Compensation Limit for Health Insurance Executives

19. Obamacare Employer Reporting of Insurance on W-2 forms

20. Obamacare “Black liquor” tax hike (Tax hike of $23.6 billion/took effect immediately). This is a tax increase on a type of bio-fuel.

21. Obamacare Codification of the “economic substance doctrine” (Tax hike of $4.5 billion/took effect immediately). This provision allows the IRS to disallow completely-legal tax deductions and other legal tax-minimizing plans just because the IRS deems that the action lacks “substance” and is merely intended to reduce taxes owed

Now, I will kindly ask for a retraction of your accusation that I am a liar. I’ll be waiting patiently.

So, again, I’m waiting patiently. Anytime will do.

@johngalt, since some can only function with “picture education”, perhaps they want to look at these pictures and try to tell us where that “350% increase” of oil production is supposed to be coming from… and “350%” based on what?

Most believe Obama’s clever deception revolves around US rigs in production. But of course, what he does is combine both oil AND gas rigs. So is there a 350% rise in rigs?

From EIA’s historical data of oil AND gas rigs from 1970 to late 2010, the combined US and gas oil rig count

darn… that doesn’t work. Seems they are only getting back up to circa 2008 years. my my… And I’m quite sure the math proves to be fiction, if you want to assume the jump in rigs from Jan 2009 (1553) to Jan 2012 (2003) equates to a 350% increase.

So is Obama, and his minions here, really talking about oil production, as they have specifically stated?

From 1920 to past 2010, the US production of crude oil EIA historic statistics:

um… 350%? From when? 1920?

Actually what we do see is that oil production is just now matching circa 1998 levels, and well below levels in the 70s and 80s. And the permits, plus the GOM Thunder Head field had been put into place prior to 2009, and were coming on line to start the increase, reversing the years of decline.

so ooops… that doesn’t work out in that 350% math either.

So are the O’faithful attempting to combine oil AND gas production to fudge the perception of this fictional 350% rise in oil production?

Well now we might be getting closer… combining the two. Looking at the jump in natural gas well production 2009-10, from the EIA stats:

It was on the decline, and jumped in 2009-2010. And look what happens to the price

Oh wait! It seems that natural gas prices dropped in half when production started going up. Well looking there..

No matter what statistics you examine, it seems the only “350%” increase in oil productiong going on is the 350% increase in political BS and lies. Because it sure ain’t oil production, projected to be declining by Obama’s own admin.

INRE waiting for an apology, johngalt…. please don’t be holding your breath. Otherwise you might suffer brain damage and end up the mental vegetable like libdud, the empty mattress.

BOEMER SAID THAT IT’S OBAMA’S fault to GRETA not long ago tonight,
his policy of not drilling and he said among other thing; this ELECTION will be the most important in my lifetime,
we should raise NEWT GINGRICH, I think we can trust him,
AS DOES RICK PERRY, AND GEORGIA,

OBAMA NOW PLAYING THE WOMAN’S CARD, GENDER THEY SAY,
he know he has exausted the BUSH’S FAULT CARD,
AND THE RACE CARD, AND THE RICH CARD,
AND THE POOR’S CARD, THE STUDENT’S CARD, THE RELGION’S CARD,
HE IS A CAR D’S DEALER

@MataHarley:

INRE waiting for an apology, johngalt

Oh, I’m certainly not going to hold my breath waiting on that, Mata. What I will do is hound every one of his posts that I see, at least for awhile. I’ll probably get tired of it in a day or so, lol.

who’s in charge of welfare? they give food stamp to a woman winning a million,
she has 2 houses, she said they didn’t cut me so I think it’s okay, because I’m unemployed,

@liberalmann: Ahh! BOHICA man is alive and ……. . Oh well.

@MataHarley: The administration’s position isn’t based on EIA, but on their own internal plans.

I think the 350% increase is a true number. It represents the amount of oil production increase over what the administration was hoping for.

Their policies were designed to reign in oil production, but somehow production, though low, somehow exceeded their targets – by 350%.

LOL, @SouthernRoots! No surprise there’s some sort of phantom math and baseline going on there, since reality doesn’t match the rhetoric. It’s also amusing since the EIA is part of their own administration… and they are distancing themselves from their own statistics.

So, out of curiosity, have you got any links that may shed light on their fuzzy, fantasy math? I could use a laugh.

Nicolas Loris at Heritage comments on Obama’s main points from his February 23 speech on energy.

OBAMA: Oil production is the highest it has been in eight years.

Loris: Increased oil and gas production in the U.S. is a great development, but this is a result of increased production on private lands in North Dakota, Texas, and Alaska.
On federal lands and offshore, the story is much grimmer.
Production on federal lands and offshore could have yielded more output, increasing supply and therefore putting downward pressure on oil prices.
Poor administrative decisions—such as refusing to open areas to exploration and production, cancelling or delaying lease sales, and the offshore drilling moratorium and subsequent “permitorium”—significantly reduced oil production, destroying jobs and reducing economic activity in the process.
In North Dakota, oil production is booming and unemployment is low. There should be more stories like this.

OBAMA: Oil is not enough. America has only 2 percent of the world’s oil reserves.
Loris:

Obama frequently uses this number to push federal investments in alternative sources of energy that cannot stand the test of the market. The reality is that Obama uses this number deceptively. According to the Institute for Energy Research:

[A]lthough the U.S. is said to have only 20 billion barrels of oil in reserves, the amount of oil that is technically recoverable in the U.S. is more than 1.4 trillion barrels, with the largest deposits located offshore, in portions of Alaska, and in shale in the Rocky Mountain West.
When combined with resources from Canada and Mexico, total recoverable oil in North America exceeds 1.7 trillion barrels, or more than the world has used since the first oil well was drilled over 150 years ago in Titusville, Pennsylvania.
To put this in context, Saudi Arabia has about 260 billion barrels of oil in proved reserves.

One reason to view “reserves” estimates with caution is the fact that they are constantly in flux.
—->>>>In 1980, the U.S. had oil reserves of roughly 30 billion barrels. Yet from 1980 through 2010, it produced over 77 billion barrels of oil. In other words, over the last 30 years, the U.S. produced over 150 percent of the proved reserves that it had in 1980.<<<<—-
If the massive quantities of U.S. oil are made available to explore and produce, the current estimated reserves of 20 billion barrels would certainly increase, providing much more production over decades to come. In other words, reserves are not a stagnant number.
http://energyforamerica.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Energy-InventoryFINAL.pdf

There are 5 points in Loris’ essay all backed up with source material.

@MataHarley: Alas, I am not a highly skilled, objective, rabidly-seeking-the-truth, investigative reporter or journalist with highly placed confidential informants in the administration, so I have not been able to get my hands on these top secret strategy documents or their links.

However, quotes from Obama and his worker bees about reducing our dependence on all oil, foreign and domestic, is a good clue that they can’t be too happy about the ongoing oil production.

@MataHarley:

I just did an interesting exercise(maybe in futility, we’ll see). I did an internet search for liberalmann’s claim of “Obama increased oil production and drilling by 350%”. Now, you’d think that such a claim, if true, would be splashed across the headlines of nearly every media entity in the US, but most especially in those bastions of objective facts, Huffpo and DailyKos. I mean, stats like that, if true, would debunk the conservative line of thought on Obama and oil, correct?

So, the results;
From news articles:
-Numerous hits on Obama increasing oil production, no where in any of the articles(mostly the same canned article) does the number 350% pop up.

-Exactly two (2) hits involving the number 350%. One is about a Canadian oil company,

Dejour’s Canadian Oil & Gas Reserves Up 350% to C$44 Million

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20110613006883/en/Dejour%E2%80%99s-Canadian-Oil-Gas-Reserves-350-C44
And the other is about a small oil company on private land in North Dakota,

America’s New Oil Haven, part two — Tiny Company Sitting on 3.8 Million Barrels

with the claim of

“They’ve also been pretty strategic, it appears, with natural gas production cutting in half this quarter (compared to a year ago) and oil production up by more than 350% in volume terms”

America’s New Oil Haven, part two — Tiny Company Sitting on 3.8 Million Barrels

*******No where in those two articles does it mention Obama as the reason for the increases********

From comments on articles about oil:
-Numerous comments, more than I really care to count at this point, touting that same claim liberalmann has placed on FA of “Obama increased oil production and drilling by 350%”. And guess what? I didn’t find a link or source from any of those comments either.

Again, if that number, that 350%, was accurate and true, one would think that not only would the MSM be putting that up nightly on their TV news, or their websites, but that HuffPo and DailyKos would be running stories touting it, and that Obama himself would have used it in a speech somewhere. And, better yet, one would think that the government websites dealing with oil production would have a chart or graph showing the increase.

However, we get nothing, nada, zip. Not that I’m all that surprised by my efforts, though.

Maybe that’s why liberalmann called me a liar for saying Obama has raised taxes. He doesn’t have sources. He doesn’t have links. So he projects his own inadequacies on me.

johngalt
hi
you where on the territory of the crooked tongues, they are like oysters carried ashore, close their shell and dig
in the wet sand playing dead, waiting
for their dear tide wave mother, to bring them back in the water,to allow them to open, and be assemble together, by the strong current of the deep waters.
bye

Well, @johngalt, I’d love to know where the dud of an empty mattress gets his parrot talking points, and what source they are using to justify what even the admin’s own energy agent proves as a outright lie. But of course, substance or facts are not the forte of drive by trolls.

@SouthernRoots, too bad about not getting your hands on those docs and figures that are likely under lock and key. Or perhaps they are located under the pillow of the POTUS in the WH residential bedroom, along with a quarter, waiting for the tooth fairy.

the FOOLS are rushing in to give money for OBAMA, so to find themselves tracked at the pump,
with those expansive cars, looking dumfounded at the price, unable to make contact between OBAMA AND THE BILL THEY ARE PAYING.
what are they doing for AMERICA? nothing they are the zombies of see nothing, do nothing,
smell not shit which belong to them, and obey the words of the liar sending WORDS OF CONFUSION AND DECEITS to get your money, all of it,
like a BEAST from the WORLD OF THE” GREED”!!! FOREVER HUNGRY FOR MORE, UNTIL THERE IS NO MORE.