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Obama To Cantor: Don’t Call My Bluff

Pro tip…don’t tell people you’re bluffing.

And then like a teenage girl whose parents just don’t understand her, he ran away in a huff.

“Eric, don’t call my bluff,” Rep. Cantor claims the President told him, and– according to reports from both parties– then began to lecture the room on talks, claiming that not even Ronald Reagan would accept the terms Republicans were proposing and that, according to Reuters, “I’ve reached my limit. This may bring my presidency own, but I will not yield on this.” He then left the meeting– because the meeting ended, claim Democratic sources, but Republicans say he merely stormed out. Rep. Cantor himself said the President “shoved back and said ‘I’ll see you tomorrow,’ and walked out.” For added cattiness, the Politico report notes one Democrat quipping off the record, “Cantor is the last guy who should complain about people abruptly leaving meetings.”

The usual suspects are claiming that Obama didn’t run away but even Democrats said he did.

Some Democrats are saying it was Cantor who “rudely” interrupted Obama three times.

Given Obama’s history of rudely treating the Supreme Court at the 2010 State of the Union and his obnoxious treatment of Paul Ryan at his entitlement speech, all I can say is if it’s true is…good for Cantor.

And then there’s this.

Obama quoted as telling leaders “I’ve been very patient” and he wants agreement now.

Ah, well King Hussein I is tired of these Parliamentary delays. Don’t you know who HE is damn it?

I honestly think there is simply now way to reconcile these two sides. We’ll probably see some version of the McConnell plan and then spend the next year plus making our respective cases to the voters.

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Obama has threatened Americans that he might not pay the bondholders of America’s debts, Social Security checks, military pay and Disability checks.

BUT the proper response of congressional Republicans should be to pass emergency legislation directing the Secretary of the Treasury to pay interest on the national debt, Social Security and Medicare, active-duty members of the military and government bond-holders before any other government bills are paid.

Of course, the Senate Democratic majority won’t go along with this and even if it did, Obama would veto such legislation if it reached his desk. But that’s exactly the point – Make congressional Democrats and Obama explicitly choose not to pay Social Security, et. al. so that the responsibility for that decision is clear.

He is the leader so why doesn’t he come up with a plan? He is just like a spoiled child instead of staying and trying to work things out he decides to leave. He must have had to go raise more money for his capaign. Some leader……….

Two words Mr. President: “We won”

Oh, by the way, never admit you’re bluffin’

Obama To Cantor: Don’t Call My Bluff

Pro tip…don’t tell people you’re bluffing.

Unless, of course, you’re not. Republicans have underestimated this guy from the start.

Corporate America and investors could lose a lot more money as the result of a government debt default than as the result of high-end tax concessions, and a lot more quickly. Obama knows this.

Republicans could become the guys who interrupt entitlement payments on the one hand, and send the markets tumbling and interest rates soaring on the other. Their entire 2012 election strategy could blow up in their faces.

What political risk is Obama taking?

@Nan G: Notice who the first ones he keyed in on were? No mention of illegals, chronic welfare recipients, pork barrel spending etc. That should give everyone an indication of how he really feels about retirees, military personnel, and the disabled. You make a good suggestion about putting him and his party on the spot. Voters need to be reminded of his spending priorities from now until election time.

that’s the trick, CANTOR made him mad,
don’t stop there and he will show his real one in front of all AMERICANS,
THEN THE PEOPLE WILL KNOW THE DIFFERENCE,
and loose their adoration on him, no propagande can fix it now.
THOW SHALL ADORE ONLY GOD

It is interesting how the progs and stealth trolls give advice to the Republicans, all in good faith of course.

Buffalobob, yes is in it interesting, and it wont stop there.
bye

Some Democrats are saying it was Cantor who “rudely” interrupted Obama three times.

You have to interrupt Obama or he’ll just keep on yapping on while saying absolutely nothing. This behavior is like a petulant spoiled child-king that thinks everything has to be his way or the highway. The problem is, he has no plan other than parrot what Val Jerritt whisper’s in his ear.

Good for him! I’m sure he is tired of hearing the same ole shit everyday from these wannabee President. He have had to fight with the good ole boys every since he been in office. We really need to layoff some of those in congress so that they can go get unemployment. The old congressmen need to retire. It is just too many people in washington not doing a dam thing but bumping their gums together. Empty wagons always make loud noises. President Obama is doing a wonderful job for what he walked into and with all the others new liers that has come to washington, it is good he is still sane. He has to deal with a lot of Gum bumper, talking loud and saying nothing. People let’s vote to thin out the White house, it does not take all those people to do nothing. I’m tired of them making their living off the sweat of my back.

@Edna57:

Empty wagons always make loud noises…..He has to deal with a lot of Gum bumper, talking loud and saying nothing.

Would you mind repeating your point?

I was unable to hear you over the noise of your wagon.

What do you expect from the affirmative action Columbia/Harvard student who never had to run against an opponent until John McCain? Someone who thought that being POTUS meant getting to fly around in AF1 to campaign and leaving the governing to someone else?

Now Obama is being forced to act like a leader, and as with everything he does, major fail. Funny how now he wants “compromise” when his attitude BEFORE January, 2011 was “I Won.” Where was the compromise he pushed when the Democrats went behind closed doors, locking out Republicans, during the health care bill negotiations?

Go ahead, Obama, take it to the people. You have the bully pulpit. But remember, in this day of rapid technology, the Republicans can have an ad on national TV showing your arrogance within hours.

Yea there you go. There is always one on-line. The reason you probably can’t hear is because you are bumping your gums. and My point is what has the President done or not done for you? What did Bush do for you? Why do you take offense? You can expect the President to undo all the mess that was done in eight years, don’t be a hater all your life. Next the Loud wagon say…Your Turn.

@retire05: That’s really stupid.. think about it. And what can the President do for you who understand nothing about what really going on. I guess you are rich?

@Edna57:

People let’s vote to thin out the White house, it does not take all those people to do nothing. I’m tired of them making their living off the sweat of my back.

I neglected to tell you that I agree with this part of your post.

We’d be better off if the White House were empty instead of it being occupied by this current bunch of clowns.

My point is what has the President done or not done for you?

You wanna something that this president has done?

Here’s one. He tripled the deficit in his first year in office:

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@Edna57:

And what can the President do for you who understand nothing about what really going on.

Why don’t you tell us “what [sic] really going on”?

@Edna57:

Well, well, well. Another Obamabot hits the board. What can the President do for me? He can “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States” and not thumb his nose at it. He can act like an adult, and not a petulant child who when he doesn’t get his way, throws a temper tantrum.

And just what is it that I don’t understand? That we have our first affirmative action president who has never had to “compromise” in his life? That we now have a man in the Oval Office who doesn’t understand the meaning of “leading” and acts like a protege of Al Capone?

Am I rich? Well, why don’t you, in your infinate wisdom, define “rich”.

You people are funny…still trying to cover-up for Obama’s fraudulent lawsuits against the housing market. All Obama can do is hide from his participation by blaming everybody else.

Case Name
Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank Fair Housing/Lending/Insurance
Docket / Court 94 C 4094 ( N.D. Ill. ) FH-IL-0011
State/Territory Illinois

Plaintiff’s Lawyers Alexis, Hilary I. (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Childers, Michael Allen (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Clayton, Fay (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Cummings, Jeffrey Irvine (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Love, Sara Norris (Virginia)
FH-IL-0011-9000
Miner, Judson Hirsch (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Obama, Barack H. (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-7500 | FH-IL-0011-7501 | FH-IL-0011-9000
Wickert, John Henry (Illinois)
FH-IL-0011-9000

Case Summary
“Plaintiffs filed their class action lawsuit on July 6, 1994, alleging that Citibank had engaged in redlining practices in the Chicago metropolitan area in violation of the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA), 15 U.S.C. 1691; the Fair Housing Act, 42 U.S.C. 3601-3619; the Thirteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution; and 42 U.S.C. 1981, 1982. Plaintiffs alleged that the Defendant-bank rejected loan applications of minority applicants while approving loan applications filed by white applicants with similar financial characteristics and credit histories. Plaintiffs sought injunctive relief, actual damages, and punitive damages.”

http://www.mediacircus.com/2008/10/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/

@Keyser Söze:

You people are funny…still trying to cover-up for Obama’s fraudulent lawsuits against the housing market.

What are you talking about?

@Aye:

The Obama defenders talking about undoing the eight years before Obama…seems they have to go back to 1994 to undo the damage.

@Keyser Söze:

Okay. Now I understand. Was confused there for a sec because you’ll find less than a handful of Obie defenders on this site.

Edna is, I’m quite sure, just passing through for a very brief appearance.

Carry on.

@Aye:

Thank you kind sir…

Still on my first cup…I should not have been all inclusive in my opening…my bad.

@Keyser Söze:

Is this supposed to be something new? Obama defended a man who claimed he had been relined in Obama’s short span as an actual attorney.

I suggest you read Professor Stan Liebowitz’s articles on this very thing.

@Nan G:
Right you are, Nan…good tactical move…wish you were on the House staff. 🙂

@kalashnikat, perhaps you should be lobbying for Mark Tapscott to be on the “House staff”. The bolded text 2nd paragraph in Nan G’s comment #1, plus the last paragraph, were copied/pasted from Tapscott’s linked article directly, but not displayed in blockquotes – as should appropriately be done when you quote from someone else’s work verbatim – as a courtesy.

@Edna57: He have had to fight with the good ole boys every since he been in office. We really need to layoff some of those in congress so that they can go get unemployment. The old congressmen need to retire.

I’m going to take a wild guess, based on your entry tone to this forum, that you believe only career politicians that have anything other than a “D” following their names are the ones who need laying off, right?

What did Bush do for you? Why do you take offense? You can expect the President to undo all the mess that was done in eight years, don’t be a hater all your life.

Speaking of “haters”… what is it with some of you O’devotees that believe the world’s and nation’s woes begat in 2000?

Since you profess to be all knowing about the debt problems? Can we conclude you know to rightfully attribute the nonstop fiscal snowball down the hill to entitlements… i.e. both Medicare/Medicaid and Social Security?

Then, when you’ve mulled that over… take your time, I can tell you aren’t too quick…. do you think you can figure out what years those entitlements came into being, who pushed them onto the nation, and just who was so blind as to the runaway nightmare they would be come with an aging population, and shrinking birth rate… not to mention combined with inflationary costs to perform medical that, to day, is still not reined in by O’healthcare?

Ponzi schemes don’t work. Price fixing insurance premiums does nothing to stop the increasing costs of administerin health care Even when you try to do them with the best of intents. Therefore to lay any of this on the “past eight years”… i.e. that evil Dubya… is just a portrayal of being “the hater” you accuse others of here.

@Keyser Söze: The Obama defenders talking about undoing the eight years before Obama…seems they have to go back to 1994 to undo the damage.

How about 1965 instead, Keyser? Or back to the New Deal entitlement mentality birth?

@retire05:

It is new for Liberals, but I guess they missed this NYT article from Sep. 1999 or the Fred Smith testimony before Congress in June of 2000. http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html

http://cei.org/outreach-regulatory-comments-and-testimony/fred-smith-supplemental-remarks

I am sure professor Liebowitz is very good at his profession, but it seems he is running 10 years behind the curve, as the above articles would show. In 1999 & 2000 he was more concerned with what Microsoft was up to rather than the impending collapse of housing.

http://www.independent.org/aboutus/staff-articles.asp?id=533&pid=2

The Liberals may wish to lay this on Bush, but the smoking gun points to the Dem’s. The 34 warnings Bush issued were completely ignored and ridiculed by the Dem’s in an effort to protect their cash cows.

http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/bush-called-for-reform-of-fanniefreddie-34-times-since-2001/blog-16522/

@MataHarley:

Absolutely…didn’t realize the idea wasn’t Nan’s…Credit where it’s due, Mark!