Harry Reid on the Bundy ranch standoff: This ain’t over

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Allah:

For once he’s right. John Hinderaker, who’s sympathetic to Bundy, nonetheless acknowledges that he doesn’t have a leg to stand on legally. Bundy’s theory, that land universally recognized for the past 150 years as belonging to the federal government really belongs to Nevada because it was never properly conveyed to the U.S., is DOA in court. He’ll lose his appeals and then, presumably, he’ll go on refusing to pay grazing fees to use the land. What should the feds do then? Given the publicity the case has drawn and the fact that the judiciary’s on his side, Obama can’t look the other way at Bundy’s continued defiance of the law. He’s happy to do that abroad with bad actors like Putin and Assad because Ukraine and Syria aren’t part of his jurisdiction. (Although fans of the world-policeman theory of foreign policy might disagree.) He can duck those messes, sort of. He can’t duck the one in Nevada, if only because letting Bundy off the hook there is bound to inspire copycat defiance elsewhere. So Reid’s right. This isn’t over.

My question is, how should the feds proceed once Bundy’s appeals are exhausted? What could they do to enforce the court’s order that won’t be treated as some sort of provocation by Bundy supporters? Seize his cattle that are on federal land? Let the cattle graze there but seize some of his assets to make him pay the grazing fee? (If they went the latter route, ranchers would then have a liability right to use federal land for their own purposes, which would interfere with the government’s plans for land use.) Watch the second clip below and you’ll find Glenn Beck taken aback by the violent rhetoric among some Bundy supporters, a portion of whom he thinks are clearly spoiling for a fight. Then watch the first clip, where one supporter is interviewed, and you’ll see why. (Another supporter, a former sheriff, spitballed on Fox News yesterday about placing women at the front of the protest crowd to maximize the PR damage to the feds in case shooting breaks out.) Remember, Bundy doesn’t recognize federal jurisdiction over the land at all; any interference with his cattle by the BLM, no matter how light a touch is used, will presumably be regarded by him and his fans as illegal and therefore worthy of resistance.

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Yesterday, on KFI Los Angeles, I heard Bill Handle say essentially that because all of the ranchers like Clive Bundy have to pay the BLM fees for grazing on federal land; he should also bend over and take it. It sounds like Bill Handle is a bought and paid quack living high on the hog. I don’t listen to his “on the law” or “on the news” any more.

We are taxed and taxed. When are the lazy asses of American going to go up against the government and say, “No more taxes.” Let’s REDUCE taxation seriously. The state governments and federal governments are overtaxing citizens to the extent that it is more burdensome than what caused the American Revolution against the English King.

Clive Bundy, I dare say, is the Rosa Parks of the ranchers. To here and no more. She told the police, go ahead and arrest me but this HAS GOT TO END NOW. And it did.

Arrest Harry Reid for his sneaky underhanded moves. I was a Mormon and one of several hundred reasons I left that church was because of people like Harry Reid. They are disingenuous. They lie and they cheat. Harry Reid is an embarrassment to even the Senatorial camp.

The government should not own the land, or charge fees for its use. Clive Bundy is already a citizen who pays taxes. Let’s move to cut, cut, cut taxes; down, down down where ever and everywhere we can.

I told a friend of mine yesterday what I told my father years ago when I was young. I said, “In Russia the government takes all your money (communism) and gives you a bit back (and owns everything). In the United States, the government lets you take what you earn and then you have to pay taxes; nowadays a lot of taxes and the government owns nothing (privatization). But at the very high rates of taxation now, you get to earn money, but then you have to give most of it up.” And, the government is moving to own everything and control everything. Sound familiar? If this continues what do you think will happen? If so, then will people arm themselves to protect their interests as patriots did at Clive Bundy’s place?

Taxes are too high. Fuel prices are too high. Encroachment of government is too much already! It has to stop now!

So now what you gonna do ’bout it? Stop it!

AdrianS
YES THAT IS VERY WELL EXPLAINED,
IT’S STARTING TO OVER BOIL, AND THEY ARE TURNING AGAINST THE PEOPLE,
SO THEY SHOULDN’T BE SURPRISE TO GET THE SAME TREATMENT,
THE PEOPLE CANNOT FIGHT ABUSE WITH A LIGHTLY ATTITUDE,
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN SURVIVAL, WHILE THE GOVERNMENT,
IS FEELING SO SECURE AS TO HIDE BEHIND THE MANY AGENCY TO MAKE THE PEOPLE
THINK THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ABUSE AND EXTORTION,
AND IT HAD TO BE UNCOVER EVENTUALY, now it’s not about the million,it’s about the abuse of all the other who lost their ranch for having been harass by government ,
to get the most part of their livelyhood, the people at the end must take a hard decision, face it,
face the bully, THE RANCHER BEFORE HIM START TO STUDY TO BE A LAWYER, BECAUSE HE COULD NOT AFFORD
TO PAY LAWYER ANYMORE, HE START TO STUDY LAW SO TO DEFEND HIMSELF, AGAINST GOVERNMENT, HE LOST HIS FATHER TO THE FIGHT WHO DIED BECAUSE OF ALL THE BAD INTIMIDATION, HIS HEART IS BROKEN, HE HAS A FAMILY TO FEED, AND THE ATTACKS ARE TO DESTROY HIM, THEY WANT THE LAND AND USE THE INTIMIDATION AND EXTORTION,
TO TAKE IT, TOO LATE FOR HIM, HE LOST IT ALL,