Darren Wilson’s friends demand that ‘star’ witness in Michael Brown case be charged with PERJURY

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Close friends of Darren Wilson have called for the star witness in the Michael Brown shooting to be charged for lying about what he saw.

Two of the Ferguson police officer’s best friends told MailOnline that Dorian Johnson – who was next to Brown at the time – should be arrested for his statements in numerous TV interviews he made days afterwards.

They say that he made up the claim that Brown had his hands up which kickstarted the ‘Hands up, don’t shoot’ protest movement.

For his part Johnson told the grand jury that the whole process has left him feeling ‘victimized’.

He also revealed that the altercation began because he didn’t like how Wilson spoke to him like a father telling off his son.

Johnson was walking with Brown back to his house in Ferguson, Missouri, when he and Wilson got in tussle that ended in tragedy on August 9.

The killing sparked more than a week of violent protest and trouble erupted again this week with looting and widespread vandalism when a Grand Jury decided not to indict Wilson.

The decision effectively means they did not believe Johnson’s account.

Afterwards, Wilson’s testimony was made public which his supporters say proves Johnson was a liar.

A close friend said: ‘Dorian Johnson is the one who started it all. If it was up to me he should be charged.

‘He got right on CNN, he got right on TV and started blabbering his mouth off. I could tell by his voice that he was lying.

‘Darren Wilson’s story makes sense regardless of whether I knew him or not.’

The friend also criticized Johnson for claiming that he hid behind a car but also claimed to have seen everything that happened.

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A close friend said: ‘Dorian Johnson is the one who started it all. If it was up to me he should be charged.

It was the MSM and other leftist agitators who provided him the support and means to do so. They were the ones who spread and supported the lie to the masses without question because it fit the narrative they wanted. Without them, this would have never been anything more than a local law enforcement issue.

If you visit the Conservative Treehouse you can see the photos of Dorian Johnson after he comes out from the treeline just after the shooting.
He goes up to people and you can see him raising his hands in the ”hands were up, why did he shoot?” with the very people who later passed themselves off as eyewitnesses to the shooting.
One after another these so-called witnesses all changed their stories, some even hiding from the GJ calls that they testify.

Everybody who lied to the police should be charged, but there is plenty of time to do so, so they should wait until things calm down, or the rioting will start up again.

Spot on

To my knowledge based on what I’ve read, no proof of perjury exist. Released interview documents tell us that 13 witnesses said Brown’s hands were up when shot (Witness 14, 16, 22, 25, 35, 37, 41, 42, 44, 45, 46, 48, & 64) whereas only 2 said they were not (Witnesses 10 & 30).

Perjury has always been a hard sale as it’s difficult to determine what one thought they saw. Perhaps Brown’s arms involuntarily flew up or stayed up as he went down? 7 witnesses say he was in a kneeling position at the time shot while 5 say he was not. 6 of the 7 say his hands were up while kneeling. There are no videos and even if there were, it would be hard to determine what one saw or thought they saw. The inconsistencies in witnesses is rather telling.

Regardless, that’s about the most stupid thing that could possibly happen. The Ferguson incident has been riddled with blatant contempt of the black community from its onset. From leaving Brown’s body on the street as a trophy for over 4 hours to the FPD wearing arm sashes flipping the bird to the residents to them intentionally running over flowers placed at Brown’s memorial to military style enforcement prohibiting their freedom of speech and arresting peaceful protesters and reporters to intentionally and unnecessarily airing the irrelevant store robbery to the Ferguson police chief taking to Fox News and Sean Hannity to a stacked deck grand jury where the Prosecutor refused to recuse himself after over 70 000 signatures to the prosecution’s inaccurate instructions to the jury. And this is even after a 23 year reign of a prosecutor who’s dad was a police officer shot and killed by a black man refusing to bring police officers in front of a Grand Jury that shoot black people yet when forced to do so, acts as their defense rather than a prosecutor. Wilson is the 5th officer brought before McCulloch for a black shooting and the 5th to walk away without an indictment.

In short, Ferguson has become a place where a dominant police dept can shoot citizens at will and walk away unscathed. It’s gotten to the point that they don’t even try to contain their blatant contempt. Hack sites such as here even promote a concept that the black community brings it on themselves for not being respectful enough towards police as if that’s a serious justification.

Bringing perjury charges against selective witnesses would not only be nearly impossible to get a conviction but it would only enrage a community (as well as many others around the country) that’s had all they’re going take. And to get a conviction would be even more tragic.

Ironic considering the protesters don’t care if his hands were up. They want blood. Truth and justice not so much.

@drjohn:

Ironic considering the protesters don’t care if his hands were up

How many protestors didn’t care? Did all protestors not care?

The argument that Brown’s hands were up was what likely escalated the tension. As mentioned @Ronald J. Ward: , the many blatant snubbing from the FPD et al certainly flamed the fire-perhaps to the point that to many, the hands up issue became irrelevant. Just a possibly.

How many Ferguson policeman wearing support sashes for Wilson or running their patrol cars over his memorial prior to investigations or knowledge of any testimony would you say “didn’t care” if the hands were up or not?

They want blood. Truth and justice not so much.

Two way street perhaps?

I appreciated that most of the peaceful protestors went home before the violent looting and arson started.
Of course the vast majority of Ferguson never even came out in the first place.
But that segment of violent people represented by arrests were mostly locals!
And even businesses that were locally black-owned and had windows full of signs of upraised hands in support of Michael Brown’s side of the issue were looted and burned out.

@Ronald J. Ward:

In short, Ferguson has become a place where a dominant police dept can shoot citizens at will and walk away unscathed.

Still promoting the Al Sharpton talking points, I see. But it is clear that you think that even if some thug, who happens to be black, is bashing in the head of a police officer, who happens to be white, the white police office has the duty to just let the thug get away with it.

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Hack sites such as here even promote a concept that the black community brings it on themselves for not being respectful enough towards police as if that’s a serious justification.

Well, it seems that this “hack site” is not alone in that opinion. Why don’t you watch this video, and then you can come back and tell me that the man who made the video is simply saying the things he says because he is “racist”, you favorite word to lob at people who disagree with your opinion that thugs, if black, should be allowed to continue being thugs with no repercussions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpsQwl_19M4

@Ronald J. Ward:

To my knowledge based on what I’ve read, no proof of perjury exist. Released interview documents tell us that 13 witnesses said Brown’s hands were up when shot (Witness 14, 16, 22, 25, 35, 37, 41, 42, 44, 45, 46, 48, & 64) whereas only 2 said they were not (Witnesses 10 & 30).

They also said Brown was shot in the back, which of course was quickly shown to be a bold-face lie. Johnson has been charged with making false statements to police before and this is the same thing. If he testified that Brown was shot with his hands up, he lied and purgered himself. Charge him.

The Ferguson incident has been riddled with blatant contempt of the black community from its onset. From leaving Brown’s body on the street as a trophy for over 4 hours

Evidence has to be collected, photos taken and the crime scene documented. If they had not been thorough, there would be REAL questions about what happened. As it is, we know the evidence was preserved and the verdict supported.

intentionally running over flowers placed at Brown’s memorial to military style enforcement prohibiting their freedom of speech and arresting peaceful protesters and reporters to intentionally and unnecessarily airing the irrelevant store robbery

There was an incident where the police was accused of burning a memorial for Brown, which caused more violence, but it was determined the candles on the memorial caused the fire. More ignorance fueling violence. When were “peaceful” protesters arrested? In fact, where were the peaceful protesters? And, the store robbery was absolutely releveant; relevant to the meme the left was pushing that Brown was a peaceful giant that would never harm anyone so, obviously, he was brutally shot for no reason by a vicious, racist cop. The video, though it proves nothing about the shooting, does prove that their should be reasonable doubt about Brown being incapable of getting himself in trouble due to violent, bullying behavior. If he left did not want evidence like that exposed, they should not be making false statements about Brown’s nature.

to the Ferguson police chief taking to Fox News and Sean Hannity

And why not? Brown’s family and his lawyers were talking to every MSM propaganda outlet, why is it improper to get the official views and version out to the public as well? Since you are still too cowardly to answer my question, your self-imposed ignorance prevents you from seeing how the lies about racist motivation for the shooting being the only possibility was inciting violence. You, the President, Holder, Brown’s parents, the attorneys, Sharpton, Jackson, all the opportunistic, racist, theiving rioters and every left wing, lying, inciting talking head should have taken into consideration that there was a very good chance that Brown was killed in self defense. The entire lot are far too stupid and prejudiced to consider more than their own opinions about any matter; this tragedy is no exception.

to a stacked deck grand jury where the Prosecutor refused to recuse himself after over 70 000 signatures to the prosecution’s inaccurate instructions to the jury. And this is even after a 23 year reign of a prosecutor who’s dad was a police officer shot and killed by a black man refusing to bring police officers in front of a Grand Jury that shoot black people yet when forced to do so, acts as their defense rather than a prosecutor. Wilson is the 5th officer brought before McCulloch for a black shooting and the 5th to walk away without an indictment.

How was the grand jury stacked? How does the fact that someone’s father was killed by a black person disqualify them from being a prosecutor? Perhaps not everyone sees everything in racist terms as you do. Do you know the details and facts of the other no-bills, or is the fact that five other people were not lynched to satisfy public blood-lust enough to convince you?

In short, Ferguson has become a place where a dominant police dept can shoot citizens at will and walk away unscathed.

See what I mean? Provide the names of any blacks shot in Ferguson that was unjustified and the police just wrote it off. How about Darren Wilson’s civil rights; does he not have any? His civil rights have been violated by the US government, aiding and abetting the racist left in persecuting unjustly for defending himself and protecting the community.

The argument that Brown’s hands were up was what likely escalated the tension.

The false statement that his hands were up escalated the tension. So did the lies that he was surrendering and shot in the back. Odd that the mantra “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” is the theme for this incident when, in fact, his hands were NOT up and he was taunting Wilson TO shoot him (“you’re too much of a pu$$y to shoot me”). Once again, all the left bases their outrage on is based on lies. All lies.

Will the Real Black Americans Please stand up
By Charles R. Patrick Furguson

Debate that.
I can’t.
I agree with him on all counts.

@Bill:

How was the grand jury stacked?

It wasn’t. But in RJW’s ignorance, he seems unaware that the Grand Jury was selected long before Michael Brown was shot. I guess the next claim will be that Officer Wilson learned who was on the Grand Jury months before he shot Brown and let them know he was going to do it.

How does the fact that someone’s father was killed by a black person disqualify them from being a prosecutor?

Let’s apply that rule equally, if that is what RJW insists on. No black, who has ever in the past had a family member harmed by a white, can be a prosecuting attorney, a judge or a legislator who passes laws that affect white people. No black person who has ever been a victim of real racism should be allowed to sit on a jury in a case involving a white defendant. See how that blood liable works?

@retire05:

Let’s apply that rule equally, if that is what RJW insists on. No black, who has ever in the past had a family member harmed by a white, can be a prosecuting attorney, a judge or a legislator who passes laws that affect white people. No black person who has ever been a victim of real racism should be allowed to sit on a jury in a case involving a white defendant. See how that blood liable works?

My thoughts, exactly. Therefore, Holder should not be the head of the DOJ and his investigation should not be happening.

I voted for Obama twice, and I voted to recognize gay marriage in my state because I see no rational reason to discriminate, as much as I am uncomfortable around gays/lesbians acting toward each other as every other straight person is entitled to act toward his or her partner. In other words, I am pretty clearly a liberal/Democrat.

That said, I completely agree that this whole Mike Brown situation is bullshit! Did he deserve to die because he stole cigars and threw the owner up against those racks? NO! Did he deserve to die for back-talking to a cop? NO! But he sure as hell is the one who — according to Darren Wilson and AS SUPPORTED BY THE FORENSIC EVIDENCE — set the encounter on its fatal track. You DON’T punch a cop and grab for his gun and then expect the cop to show restraint. (Wilson’s face didn’t appear to be bruised, but the redness sure supported his story, as did MB’s blood in the car and on Wilson’s body.)

I watched CNN interview with Sunny Hostin — who would find racist motivation for me painting my ceilings white — where she interviewed MB’s parents and asked about the cigar robbery. Their response: you shouldn’t judge someone based on one incident. But notably, she completely failed to ask them ANYTHING about the forensic evidence supporting the claim that MB punched Wilson and wrestled with him inside the car in effort to grab the gun. NOT ONE COMMENT OR QUESTION!

And this call by MB’s stepfather to “Burn this motherfucker down!”? Well, that was just crying out in anger. . . . . Bullshit! It was touching the match to the powder keg. Now I acknowledge it will be difficult or impossible, indeed, to find someone who will say, “Oh, yeah, I heard him shout that and that is when I decided to torch things,” it sure as hell was an irresponsible thing to yell given the situation.

Are there problems there and elsewhere? Absolutely! Kim Norcross, one of my law professors who is African American and lives in a far-more-affluent section of St. Louis, wrote a poignant piece about how her sons have to deal with suspicious glances, risk of being stopped by cops, etc., just because they are black, and I truly, truly feel for her and her sons because of something like that. But when I see the base, CRIMINAL, self-destructive activity that was launched because Darren Wilson was not indicted — would anything less than life in prison for him really, truly have satisfied MB’s mother and father? — then I can do nothing other than cry bullshit and respond with a “who-cares” attitude. Dr. King would be embarrassed and ashamed.

@retire05: #12

But in RJW’s ignorance, he seems unaware that the Grand Jury was selected long before Michael Brown was shot.

Since he gets most of his info from the propaganda media, he might have missed that info when Fox News mentioned it.

@Smorgasbord: When the GJ was selected is irrelevant to my argument and has nothing to do with how the prosecution conducted their case or the inaccurate statutes it presented to them.

It’s not like I’m making this up.

@Ronald+J.+Ward:

: When the GJ was selected is irrelevant to my argument and has nothing to do with how the prosecution conducted their case or the inaccurate statutes it presented to them.

Yeah, Ronald. It kinda is relevant.

to a stacked deck grand jury

If the grand jury members are pre-selected and simply sit for the next case, whatever that may be, how can it be “stacked” to benefit any specific case? Oh, sorry…. that’s another one of those questions you never have the balls to answer.

It’s not like I’m making this up.

No, of course not. You don’t have the intelligence to make this up. someone else makes it up, emails it out to Gruber’s Goobers and they (you) repeat it.

@Ronald+J.+Ward: #16
I admit that I haven’t followed the case as much as many have. It gets confusing to me when we read or hear about one person saying they saw one thing, but somebody else saw the exact opposite. Several people changed their story after the autopsy results came out, and when other blacks gave testimony that was consistent with what the officer and the evidence said. It gets too hard for me to keep track of what each person said. In cases like this, I like to wait for ALL OF THE EVIDENCE until I decide what I think about it. So far, I will have to go with the evidence.

I myself found out that eyewitness accounts aren’t very reliable. I witnessed something, then some time later, I was at the scene again, and it was TOTALLY DIFFERENT than when I was there before. It was EXACTLY the way it was before, but how I REMEMBERED it was different from how it ACTUALLY is.

There are always the ones who purposefully lie to make it seem a certain way, and there are police officers who will lie too. I have a problem with people who come to conclusions before an investigation is finished. This is why I don’t like to comment very much on things I don’t know much about. The results are in, and I think they say what actually happened.

@Smorgasbord: When you look at how the prosecution handled this case, it’s obvious how stacked the deck was against Brown. When a prosecution knowingly sites statutes as instructions to the jury on the law on how an officer can shoot a fleeing suspect and disregards the fact that this very statute was overturned by the SCOTUS as long ago as 1985, that to me presents a problem, which I certainly hope, but question, the DOJ strongly looks at.

@Ronald+J.+Ward:

: When you look at how the prosecution handled this case, it’s obvious how stacked the deck was against Brown.

What was stacked against Brown was the evidence. NO evidence supported the lies about him being shot in the back, trying to surrender, having his hands up or not assaulting Wilson. The truth stacked the deck.

See, if Brown was shot while fleeing, he would have bullet holes in is back. Would he not? If Brown was shot in the back while fleeing, wouldn’t the autopsies (as in MORE THAN ONE) shown bullet wounds to the back? YES or NO? IF it was a fact that Brown was running away and Wilson shot him, wouldn’t the autopsies have shown evidence of this?

@Bill: Bill, while I know better, let’s clear something up. I know you’ll continue to stalk and troll me which is fine I suppose as you’re easily ignored but I don’t really care about your comments to me because you’ve been profoundly stupid. Your rebuttals are amusingly ignorant and have no credibility. You simply spew crap that compliments your thought process regardless of validity. Consider the above rebuttal you gave

The Ferguson incident has been riddled with blatant contempt of the black community from its onset. From leaving Brown’s body on the street as a trophy for over 4 hours- RJW

Evidence has to be collected, photos taken and the crime scene documented. If they had not been thorough, there would be REAL questions about what happened. As it is, we know the evidence was preserved and the verdict supported.- Bill

Well, you just say anything you like as if it’s factual simply because your fabricated facts appeal to you. The real facts and thruth is that the FPD has admitted that that was an unnecessary and unneeded time wait. They have not made such excuses as you claim and they have even apologized for it. So you just blurt out any nonsensical gibberish. In short, you are simply a contrarian.

You seem to argue that it’s ok for the police dept to howl on Fox news to offset ” Brown’s family and his lawyers were talking to every MSM propaganda outlet”. That’s just utter stupidity. Freedom of speech of individuals differs from the conduct expected from officials in an ongoing investigation, particularly of this level.

You ask “How was the grand jury stacked?”

I have no time for such profound childish buffoonery. And while I’m sure you’ll come back with a rebuttal of asinine silliness on this comment, I DON’T CARE! NOT INTETESTED! You are a pesky troll and much like the likes of your other resident trolls who I ignore, you will become as one.

@Ronald+J.+Ward: @Ronald+J.+Ward:

The real facts and thruth is that the FPD has admitted that that was an unnecessary and unneeded time wait. They have not made such excuses as you claim and they have even apologized for it.

If they apologized for it, why are you still harping on it? Can’t find anything else to sate your racist appetite? They DO have to leave the body in place in order to collect evidence, though, don’t they?

If the family and their lawyers are going to go out and give their version of the story, why CAN’T anyone else, then, give their version? It was an answer to your stupid premise, not some accusation made by me.

I have no time for such profound childish buffoonery.

All you have time for is spreading lies intended to increase racial tension. Again, if, as YOU say, Brown was running away and Wilson shot him, why are there no wounds to the back? Wouldn’t there be wounds to the back? If what you say is true, why are there no wounds to the back? Buffoonery is making stupid, false, lying accusations, then acting as if they don’t exist when someone calls you on them.

If you don’t want to be “stalked”, then don’t come here and lie, expecting anyone who knows you are lying not to take notice. Oh, and when he had to be aware of the tenuous nature of the Brown accusations, why would Obama use THAT as an example of social problems in America before the UN and the world? Answering simple questions stops “stalking”, also. Man up.

@Ronald+J.+Ward: #19

When a prosecution knowingly sites statutes as instructions to the jury on the law on how an officer can shoot a fleeing suspect….

BLACK eyewitnesses, and the fact that there were no holes in Brown’s back, tend to make me believe the officer’s story. If Brown was shout while fleeing, the wounds would be in his back, but NONE were. The angle of some of the wounds were consistent with BLACK eyewitness testimony that Brown was charging the officer in a hunched forward position, like a football player does.

What you are saying is that you are trying to make everybody believe it happened the way you want it to be, and like most liberals, you aren’t going to let any FACTS get in the way. Unlike you, I wait until there are enough FACTS for me to come to a conclusion, but if you give me enough FACTS, I can be convinced of anything. Maybe you and I have a different definition of the word “fact”.

fact |fakt|
noun
a thing that is indisputably the case: she lacks political experience—a fact that becomes clear when she appears in public | a body of fact.
• (the fact that) used in discussing the significance of something that is the case: the real problem facing them is the fact that their funds are being cut.
• (usu. facts) a piece of information used as evidence or as part of a report or news article.
• chiefly Law the truth about events as opposed to interpretation: there was a question of fact as to whether they had received the letter.

Amazing that the most damning and incendiary accusation, that Brown was shot in the back, was the absolute FIRST accusation to be solidly refuted with forensic evidence. Yet those who cling to the evaporated hope that they had a real case of racism to thrive on like the parasites they are still roll it out.

Despicable, contemptible creatures. Truly sickening.

@Bill: #24
When has a liberal ever let the truth stand in the way of their agenda. They are like movie producers who make a movie about a book. In all of the commercials for the movie, and usually at the beginning of it, it ALWAYS says, “Based on….” A good example of this is the book, “Forrest Gump”. How many people died in the movie? I never read the book, but the author said NOBODY DIED in the book. When the liberals start talking about the killing, they should start with, “Based on….”, because they don’t worry about FACTS.

@Smorgasbord: You are an outright liar with an admission of ignorance on this subject.

I said nor implied no such thing. Why is it that every dishonest lying regular here plays by the same dishonest playbook? Could it possibly be that in fact you are all one in the same? Good lord, don’t you even try?

My argument is about the prosecution’s misinformation to the jury, quoting a statute of the legality of police shooting a running suspect. They basically told the jury that it was perfectly legal and that Wilson could not be charged when in fact the SCOTUS had invalidated that statute in 1985.

If you don’t want to bother educating yourself before making blatantly ignorant and dishonest accusations, I really don’t know what to tell you and simply include you in the growing list of blathering lying trolls that are so prevalent on this site.

@Ronald+J.+Ward:

My argument is about the prosecution’s misinformation to the jury, quoting a statute of the legality of police shooting a running suspect.

What statute? Give us the exact number of the Missouri statute you are referring to. I want to read it for myself, since you have proven to be a dishonest player.

@Ronald+J.+Ward: #26

You are an outright liar with an admission of ignorance on this subject.

Please show where I lied. Anyone can call anyone a liar. I have admitted that I don’t follow the story as much as others do. I didn’t say I don’t follow some stories.

My argument is about the prosecution’s misinformation to the jury, quoting a statute of the legality of police shooting a running suspect.

BLACK witnesses testified that Brown wouldn’t let the officer out of the car, and that Brown stuck the officer, and that Brown went for the officer’s gun. There were two shots fired while the officer was in the car. Even if Brown would have kept running, this would be a justifiable case of shooting at a fleeing subject if the ever was on.

I guess it depends on which group of blacks a person wants to believe. You chose yours, and I chose mine. Keep in mind that my black group never changed their testimony, while your group did.

@Ronald+J.+Ward: A question; if Brown was not shot in the back, what difference does it make about any rules, regulations or laws about shooting a fleeing suspect?

@Bill: You can never reason with a liberal. They only believe in ideology, never facts. You would be much more productive counting grains of sand at the beach!

@retire05: Why is it that you argue this issue with an assumed knowledge of it yet seem completely dumbfounded, or perhaps in complete denial of how the 1985 SCOTUS Tennessee v. Garner voided the law which the prosecution presented pertaining to shooting a fleeing suspect?

I challenge you to Google and return a coherent rebuttal (although it’s a pretty hot topic on most news circuits) . I suspect the usual covering of the ears and the singing of “la la la” as that is what you do best which makes you such an asset of Floppingaces.com.

@Ronald+J.+Ward: speaking g of covering one’s ears so no facts can possibly enter into a closed, factless mind; was Brown fleeing? Was Brown shot in the back?