Faye Higbee:
Who are the real trespassers in the confrontation on Bundy land in Nevada? Is the BLM killing the “trespass cattle” in Nevada? Questions are compounding as violence broke out Wednesday. Supporters and family members confronted rangers who tried to block the roadway. Eventually they left, but not until violence broke loose.
Ammon Bundy was tased by a BLM ranger on Wednesday.
Violence breaks out
On Wednesday, an altercation with the Bundy family and supporters resulted in the tasing of Clive Bundy’s son Ammon, and Clive’s sister Margaret Houston, 57, who has cancer, being shoved to the ground. Another woman, one who is pregnant, had a BLM K-9 lung at her. Militia groups have started to arrive, as well as other citizens who are incensed at the government’s treatment of a cattle rancher. The situation has increased tension on both sides.
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“This is the road I grew up on. I saw my aunt get thrown to the ground. I saw my cousin get hit 3 times by a taser.” A Bundy family member became visibly upset at the government’s handling of his family.
“Go BLM! Go BLM!” the crowd chanted, as the rangers climbed back in their trucks and withdrew from the volatile situation.
We have to wonder if the BLM rangers are asking themselves why they are there, as pregnant women and sick women confront them, demanding to know if they are going to kill the cows. In one of the videos you can hear a woman crying out to save her “baby calves.”
A Bundy family member stated Thursday that they did not know for certain, but were advised if the rangers couldn’t get the cows to move, they would be shot. The BLM rangers have brought in backhoes…why? The BLM has made a deal with a local auction house to sell any of the “trespass cattle” found grazing on “public” lands… a deal reportedly for $300,000. They have spent far more than that in their penchant to intimidate the Bundy family in the first place.
No court order gives the government the right to destroy cattle in the pursuit of grazing fees.
The Tortoise
When the law on endangered species went into effect, the funds from rancher grazing fees were to be used by the BLM to assist ranchers in protecting the Desert Tortoise. The “Rules” for grazing fees also included the demand that ranchers only have 150 head of cattle on the public lands. However, that “rule” is not financially feasible for any rancher who raises cattle for food. The grazing fees were being used against the ranchers, to buy out their land instead, so Mr. Bundy stopped paying the fees. His permit to graze was revoked in 1994.
Nobody really cares about the tortoises. It’s about control.
Ostensibly the story is that these cattle have to be removed from this land to protect the Desert Tortoise.
But here’s a gigantic irony:
Deleted from BLM.gov but reposted for posterity by the Free Republic, the BLM document entitled “Cattle Trespass Impacts” directly states that Bundy’s cattle “impacts” solar development, more specifically the construction of “utility-scale solar power generation facilities” on “public lands.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3142972/posts?page=99
http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/nv/field_offices/las_vegas_field_office/energy/dry_lake_sez.Par.3790.File.dat/FAQs%20Oct2012.pdf
Marcus Stern with Reuters also reported that Sen. Reid was heavily involved in the deal.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/31/us-usa-china-reid-solar-idUSBRE87U06D20120831
Oh, and the irony?
Solar ”farms” fry desert tortoises.
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2011/03/solar-panels-desert-tortoise-mojave
Obama asked “Will you , if so ordered, fire on Americans”?
I guess we know the answer with BLM
The guy has refused to pay the required taxes for grazing his cattle on public land that other ranchers pay. He’s failed to pay around a million dollars. Now he thinks he’s being treated unfairly because the government has decided to round up and sell off livestock that’s still on that same land for which he has failed to pay grazing taxes. I find it difficult to work up much sympathy for this behavior.
It’s also worth noting that the only reason a cancer patient and a pregnant woman were present at a confrontation with federal authorities is because the Bundy family put them there.
Should some people be able to decide not to pay lawfully due taxes simply because they don’t want to? All other things being equal, should you have to pay taxes that your neighbor is allowed to ignore?
Something should be said about this permit refusal stuff…. He never refused to pay technically he COULD NOT get a permit for a herd of his size…. head had a few hundred or maybe over a thousand head of cattle… anyways the BLM wanted to him to cap his herd at 150 head of cattle and refused to give him a permit for anything larger. Thus the conflict …. government attempting to regulate how much of what we can own and what we can do with our property
, in this case livestock.
@Greg:
Absolutely.
It’s important to note here that the magnanimous Federal Government is simultaneously protecting and euthanizing.
They’re from the government, and they’re here to help you.
THEY PAY MILLION FROM THE PEOPLE’S MONEY TO PREVENT THE RANCHER TO REACH HIS CATTLLE,
what a bunch of ZERO ,
THEY ALREADY SPEND THEIR MILLION THEY WANT TO COLLECT,
NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF THERE,
this will never be forgotten, and time will put this administration so far down,
they will never recover from it, TO FORGET
no matter what corrupt actions you are willing to take,
that land belong to the PEOPLE not any government, the rancher don’t owe you a dime, THAT LAND IS NOT FOR SALE TO CHINA HARRY REID SWALLOW THIS ONE,
FUCK OFF AND LEAVE THAT LAND TO THE RANCHER,
YOU ARE TRESPASSING GET THE HELL OUT,
LEAVE THE GOOD PEOPLE ALONE,
ANYTHING HAPPEN TO THEM WILL BE ON YOUR CONCIENSE,
AND IT WILL HIT YOU HARD, ALL THE DEMOCRATS WILL DISAPEAR BECAUSE THEY ALLOWED IT, YOU ARE COWARDS
AFRAID TO TALK FOR THE FARMERS WHO WORK HARD,
WE WILL NOT FORGET OR FORGIVE,
the fox just said the fed are pulling out and no cattel are ceased, thousand of people are there,
THANK GOD, THEY WON. THEIR RESOLVED AND COURAGE HAS SHOWN RESULT,
WE ARE HAPPY,
@Kraken, #5:
The facts are often different than the fiction: Debunking Boston Tea Party Myths. As the article points out, “Many patriots viewed the destruction of the tea as an act of vandalism.”
It’s interesting that the way you’ve responded to the questions at the end of post #3 is essentially an endorsement of unequal treatment under the law.
@Greg:
Indeed.
Pay particular note to the word, “Many.” Many. As in, not all. This is unsurprising considering that only 1/3 of colonists supported the Revolution. There’s always going to be dead weight such as yourself that has to be carried along.
Considering the IRS targeting, the EPA’s shenanigans, and the redistributionist nature of ObamaCare, The DOJ’s “vast amount” of discretion in how they prosecute federal law, we’re already living under an unequal treatment under the law.
@Kraken, #9:
Dead weight? From the article:
So the BLM has stepped down. I do not feel this is over by any means. The BLM has pulled back due to the internet attention .
You shine a light on a bunch of cockroaches, they scatter, but they do not die…they regroup .
IBelieve in the CONSTITUTION
yes, but this time they won”t feel as safe and arrogant as this time,
BYE
@Greg:
Yes, dead weight.
Remember, the article written by elderly hippie Ray Raphael, engages in “rethinking about the Revolution’s beginnings in academic circles,” and seeks to establish “new standards for future renderings of our nation’s birth,” which of course is Collectivese for “revising history.”
Remember, the Boston Tea Party took place in 1773. This was a time when many colonists, patriots, and even the Founders still hoped for reconciliation with England. Obviously Washington’s mind would be forced to change and get on board, thanks to the help of the Tea Partiers, Thomas Paine, and other anonymous pamphleteers who helped stoke the flames of revolution.
Again, this is why it’s so important to openly dismiss the generation of white professors, particularly those who flatter themselves as having played an integral part in the 1960s Civil Rights movement when in fact they were merely misbehaving adolescents barnacling themselves to an already existing and necessary movement that would have happened with or without their tantrums. They just don’t have any idea what they’re talking about, and worse, actively seek to distort the historical record to satisfy their psychotropic political agendas. They don’t even accurately tell the history of their own lives, much less American history.
@Greg:
Here’s an excellent example of this truth.
First we have the fiction tweeted by Eric Boehlert of Media Matters:
Then, we have the words of the Kansas KKK leader, who ran for office as a Democrat multiple times, who wrote:
Among other things.
So we know that the Collective’s revisionist historical record will always directly conflict with actual reality.
I like DONALD TRUMP, HE SAID I LIKE WHAT I DO,
I’M MAKING MONEY AND I’ AM SUCCESSFUL,
BUT I LOVE MY COUNTRY BEFORE ANY THING,
THAT’S WHAT AMERICANS WANT TO HEAR FROM A LEADER,
THE DONALD WOULD NOT RUN FOR THE MONEY,
BUT FOR THE COUNTRY,
I HOPE HE RUN
REID WANT TO HAVE CHINEESE BUILT A SOLAR FARM,
THE CHINEESE LOOK SUPICIOUS TO ME,
CHECK THAT UP : THE LARGEST SOLAR FARM , DAYS AFTER IT OPEN IN MOJAVI DESERT,
NEAR CALIFORNIA AND NEVADA BORDER, SOLAR ELECTRIC GENERATING SYSTEM,PANELS
ARE SCORCHING BIRDS FLYING OVER THEM,
TOWER CAN REACH 1000 A THOUSAND DEGREES FARENHEIT,
THEY FOUND BIRDS WITH SINGED FEATHERS FLYING INTO THE HOT THERMAL FLUX, THERE IS 300000 REFLECTING MIRRORS,
YOU READ AT THE BORDER OF NEVADA,
AND REID AND SON WANT TO USE THE PUBLIC LAND WHERE CATTLE AND GIANT TURTULE CO HABIT IN A FRIENDLY PLACE,
THE REIDS WANT TO MAKE A DEAL WITH CHINA PROBABLY ALREADY MADE TO SCORCH THE TURTLE AND CATTLEL
OF THE RANCHER LIVING BESIDE THAT PUBLIC LAND, THE WATER WAY WOULD DRY AND THE TURTOISES WOULD SCORCH AND PAINFULLY DYE, AND THE RANCHER ‘S CATTEL EVEN IF AWAY FROM THE PUBLIC LAND WOULD BE AFFECT BY THE FIRES DEVELOPPING IN THERE,’AND WHY CHINA?
THE AMERICANS CAN DO ANY THING WE DON’T NEED CHINA
TO BUILT ANYTHING IN AMERICA,
YOU KNOW THAT CHINA IS OUT OF LAND, THEY ARE DESPERATELY LOOKING FOR OUR LAND, WHY THE FUCK SHOULD WE GIVE OUR LAND FOR CHEAP MONEY THAT WON’T BE SPEND IN AMERICA BEST INTEREST,
THE PEOPLE MUST KNOW THAT IT’S A SERIOUS TAKE OVER WISH
BY REID AND SON FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH PROFITS,
the land of america are very precious in all AMERICA,
the china and other midleeast country have their eyes on it,
but AMERICA TAKE IT FOR JUST PUBLIC LANDS, BUT THE RANCHERS KNOW BETTER AND USE IT WITH GREAT WISDOM,
THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY GENERATIONS,
THEY EARN THE RIGHT TO IT,
IN THEIR HAND IT’S A SAFE LAND FOR GENERATION OF AMERICANS, THE RANCHERS KNOW THIS AND LOVE THAT LAND ENOUGH TO FIGHT FOR IT’S RIGHT,
WE JUST LEARNED THAT VERY CLEARLY,
NOW THE OBAMA ARE PICKING ON THE BUSINESS WHO PREPARE THE CATTLE FOOD,
WITH GRAINS, WHICH MANY FARMERS CONSIDERED IT VERY FINE MIX FOR THEIR ANIMAL,
THE OBAMA IS ON THEIR BACK TO SUCKER MONEY FOR THEIR OWN EXPANSES,
the blm killed some cows and dig a hole to burry them, innocent victim of the blm,
dam you, cowards,
BUNDY IS ASSESSING THE DAMAGE, ON THE WATER AND ANIMALS LOST,
THE MOTHERS HAD BABY AND HIDED THEM FROM THE MASSACRE KILLERS,
NOW HE IS TRYING TO FIND THEM IN THE BUSH ALL OVER,
THE BLM SHOULD HAVE BEEN SHOT FOR KILLING THE BULLS TWO OF THEM AND MOTHER COWS,
HARRY REID HE DOESN’T OWE YOU NOTHING BUT YOU OWE THE BUNDY SO MUCH IT WILL TAKE YOUR
RETIREMENT PENSION FOR YEARS TO REPAY THE DAMAGE YOU HAVE FIXED FOR THEM TO LEAVE.
YOU TRY THE TORTOISES WHICH ARE HAPPY THERE AND FAT,
YOU TRY INTIMIDATION, YOU TRY THREATS OF HAVING THE SWATEAM WITH ORDER TO KILL,
THE ONE MILLION WAS JUST ANOTHER THREAT IN YOUR HAT,
WAIT TILL YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER CITIZEN, LIVING IN A STATE WHERE EVERYONE HATE YOU, COMING SOON,
HARRY REID SAY THE RANCHERS AND HIS FRIENDS ARE TERRORIST,
he sur is ready for the mad house,