Obama voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006:
The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
I was wondering when someone was going to mention this salient fact, thank you.
Different CONSERVATIVE sites have been telling us this, but has any of the propaganda media mentioned it? obama, and other liberals, will say whatever they think will get them elected, and whatever it will take to get what they want. I knew what obama wanted a long time ago. There are more people waking up to it all the time. I hope enough will wake up, and that it will be soon enough, to stop him.
If the above Obama quote is evidence of an intention of America to fail, what precisely are the Tea Party faction of the House of Congress trying to do today?
What exactly is your argument? It’s okay for today’s GOP to insure America’s failure because “Obama did it too”?
@Ronald J. Ward:
Damn right
@drjohn: That’s somewhat what I thought albeit I didn’t expect an outright admission.
I guess at this point, if you advocate the Tea Party’s admitted intentions of harming America, why do you chastise Obama when you accuse him of the same thing?
@Ronald J. Ward:
I believe that if it was right for Obama, it’s right for everyone else. Do you disagree?
The better question, Ron, is why didn’t any of you question Obama? Why do you rip the GOP for doing exactly the same as Obama did?
@Ronald J. Ward: #5
Please show me where the Tea Party said this. If you go to their “About” web site at http://www.teapartypatriots.org/about/, you find they are for:
(1) Fiscal responsibility
(2)Constitutionally limited government
(3) Free market economics
Exactly how does us wanted the above harm the country?
One thing the Tea Party Patriots does have that the liberal rally organizations don’t have is moral standards. We are constantly reminded to be polite, don’t argue, no race oriented signs, no cussing, etc. The exact opposite of your kind of demonstrations.
@Ronald J. Ward:
When you have young couples marrying, family/friends, do you advocate for them to acquire as much debt as possible knowing that there is no possible way that in their life times they can pay that money back? Do you think fiscal irresponsibility is the way for them to go?
Or do you advise them to spend only what money they take in, to save for a rainy day, plan for times that may be hard and to live within their means? Because if that is your position, then by your own standards, you are wanting to harm them.
Ronald J.Ward
if the OBAMA was thinking of AMERICANS , HE WOULD NEGOCIATE ANYTHING TO SAVE A SHUTDOWN,
IT TELL HOW HE IS, BY HIS SHOUTING: I WILL NOT NEGOCIATE,
MEANING
FUCK YOU ALL,
that’s a reminder for your brain
Bees, there’s really nothing to negotiate as it has already been negotiated. ACA aka “Obamacare” is not a bill but rather the law of the land as it passed both upper and lower chambers of the Legislative Branch, signed by the Executive branch, and upheld by the Judicial Branch.
Smorgus, simply because the t-baggers make such claims on their web site, hardly makes it true. The Tea Party was no more than a movement funded by billionaires and ran by right wing extremist who used an opportune time to capitalize on the hatred of a black president in the White House in order to advance their Plutocratic agenda.
@Ronald J. Ward:
So were Jim Crow laws
@Ronald J. Ward:
Slavery was also once “law of the land.” Are you saying that once something is made law, like slavery, it should never be repealed?
Oh, and there are no billionaires behind the progressive movement? Ever heard of George Soros? He’s dumped more money into turning the United States into a socialist government than any conservative billionaire ever has on the opposite side. Ever heard of Peter Lewis?
You’re a fraud, Ronald. Not to mention dishonest. You hate anyone with money that contributes to conservative causes but have little to say about radical leftwingers who donate MILLIONS to progressive causes.
Ronald J. Ward
a bad law must be taken away, no matter if the DEMOCRATS alone vote for it in the back of
the REPUBLICANS, like a bunch of hypocrites, and carrying a book of thousands of pages,
which nobody read, and nobody with a brain want,
it’s against the foundation of AMERICA WHICH OBAMA WANT TO DESTROY, AND REPLACE IT WITH A SOCIALIST MARXIST COMMUNIST WAY OF LIVING
WITH HIS BROTHERS THE UNIONS, AND HIS FOREIGN FRIENDS
OBAMA WANT TO MERGE AMERICA IN A GLOBAL COMMUNITY, AND SPREAD ITS TREASURES AMONG THE COMMUNITIES OF THE GLOBE,
WHERE THE AMERICANS will DISAPEAR INTO THE GIANT MAZE OF THE WORLD,
AND LOOSE THEIR BELOVED AMERICA FOREVER,
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT FOR YOUR CHILDREN?
THINK FAST, BECAUSE IT’S IN OPERATION ALREADY, and advancing like a growing snake
invisible , because under your eyes under your feet,
and only who you call TEABAGGERS AS AN INSULT TO THOSE TEA PARTY WHO ARE THE GUARDIANS OF AMERICA,
PREVENTING THE AGENDA TO OBTAIN SPEED,
THAT IS WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW
WITH THE DEFUNDING OF THE OBAMACARE LAW,
@Ronald J. Ward:
There’s so much garbage in your short comment I won’t even dignify it with a Fisking.
Who do you get your filthy talking points du jour from?
@Ronald J. Ward:
Good for you for getting the “black guy” thing in there, despite the fact that probably all of us would love to have Allan West for President instead of Ayers’ inspired Marxist we have now.
@Ronald J. Ward: #10
Why is it you liberals have to use the gutter language when referring to tea partiers? Have you ever heard a conservative use gutter language when referring to liberals? If so, how often?
I agree that saying something doesn’t automatically make it true. Will you agree that just because obama, other liberals, and the propaganda media say something, that doesn’t make it true either? Of course you won’t.
As I have mentioned before, there is one Tea Party Patriots, but it is made up of hundreds, or thousands of INDIVIDUAL tea parties. Each one has to find the funding for themselves. We also pay our own expenses getting to and from rallies, unlike your liberal organizations who bus in the unemployed and union members to theirs.
We also make our own signs. You don’t see hardly any duplicate signs at our rallies, unlike the pre-printed signs at liberal rallies. Nobody tells us what to say. We can think for ourselves what we want to say.
The term “grass roots” applies to each Tea Party group.
@drjohn: #15
I was hoping Herman Cain would keep running for president. I want a non-politician in the white house, and non-politicians in congress. I don’t care what color they are.
Smorgasbord
there is also Ben Carson, who make a lot of sense,
he is a wise MAN of the SCRIPTURES
I took some of his words, on my other comment,
bye
@ilovebeeswarzone: #18
I don’t know about Ben Carson.
Smorgasbord
he is a DOCTOR, who just retire lately,’he is the person who gave some advices
to OBAMA AT A PUBLIC EVENT,
HE IS INVITED AT fox to tell his thoughts and is very well like by his pears,
and he is very smart,
bye
“Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. ”
The national debt has doubled under Obama’s leadership. I think that one quote from Obama says it all.
@ilovebeeswarzone: #20
I know who you mean now. Unless I hear someones name often enough, I can’t keep track of them.
@Ditto: #21
obama has increased our national debt more than all of the presidents from George Washing to George H.W. Bush.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-has-now-increased-debt-more-all-presidents-george-washington-through-george-hw
The article was printed on Oct. 5, 2011. It says from George Washington to George H. W. Bush but I’m guessing that with the increase in national debt since then, it is now more than ALL presidents combined.
As I have said many times before, when will the people figure out who’s side obama is on?
Smorgasbord
he apologyse to MUSLIM COUNTRIES ON THE NAME of AMERICA
WITHOUT ASKING THE AMERICANS SO IT MEAN HE DID IT IN THEIR BACK,
JUST AFTER HE WON THE PRESIDENCY,
IT WAS TELLING RIGHT FROM THE START THAT HE IS THERE FOR HIS AGENDA BUT NOT FOR AMERICANS WHICH HE DESPISE, JUST LOOKING AT THESES LAST DAYS OF MUD SLINGNING
THAT IS USING AMERICA FOR HIMSELF AND HIS OWN FOLLOWERS,
WHO HE WILL DUMP AS SOON AS HE DOESN’T NEED THEM,
AFTER DESTRUCTING THE REAL AMERICA,
@ilovebeeswarzone: #24
When obama said he wanted a national civilian security force, I knew right then he wanted to turn the USA into a non-free country. Everything he is doing is to that end. He is following Hitler’s and other dictator’s ways they got to take over their country. He is out to destroy the USA.
Smorgasbord
now it’s more obvious and now more than before we see why the
IRS GAVE TROUBLE TO THE TEA PARTY, THEY TOOK THEIR ORDERS FROM OBAMA,
FOR HIS ELECTION,
JUST BY THE DIRT THE OBAMA GANG SWING BACK TO THE REPUBLICANS, HE ACCUSED THE TEAPARTY FOR HIS OWN TROUBLE TO PASS THEIR OBAMACARE, AND ACCUSED FOR TED CRUZ EFFORT TO DEFUND HIS LAW WHICH NOBODY WANT, NO RESTRAINT OF WORDS, NO COURTESY
IT WAS A BUNCH OF STREET GANGS THUGS,ATTACKING VERBALY THE REPUBLICANS,
hell even PETER KING TURN AWAY FROM REPUBLICAN, HE ACCUSED TED CRUZ, FOR DOING WHAT HE PETER KING DIDN’T HAVE THE GUTS TO DO,
THERE’S ALWAYS A COUPLE OF BULLY LIKE HIM IN A GROUP.
@Ronald J. Ward:
Ronald J, would you provide us a link to a t bagger’s site? I’d like to see what one looks like.
@Redteam: #27
Ronald J, would you provide us a link to a t bagger’s site? I’d like to see what one looks like.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/president-obama/
@Smorgasbord: Thanks, Smorg. since Ronald J was using the term Tbagger, I assumed he was gay and would link me to one of his gay sites.
Of course I’m just kidding. I think it is funny that Dims have to resort to name calling in an attempt to make a point.
@Redteam: #29
Name calling, gutter language, violence, lying, leaving trash and damaging wherever they go. I can’t help but wonder if any of the democratic citizens have ever complained about THEIR politicians when things like this happen, and THEIR democratic politicians don’t condemn it, and most of the time, even agree with it.