Comments for Flopping Aces http://floppingaces.net Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:59:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.1 Comment on Thousands of non-existent Iraq Chemical Weapons Destroyed in Open Air, Watchdog Says by DrJohn http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/thousands-of-non-existent-iraq-chemical-weapons-destroyed-in-open-air-watchdog-says/comment-page-1/#comment-462075 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:59:56 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?post_type=most_wanted&p=104527#comment-462075 @Greg:

Bush never said otherwise

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Comment on Thousands of non-existent Iraq Chemical Weapons Destroyed in Open Air, Watchdog Says by Greg http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/thousands-of-non-existent-iraq-chemical-weapons-destroyed-in-open-air-watchdog-says/comment-page-1/#comment-462074 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:27:53 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?post_type=most_wanted&p=104527#comment-462074 @Bill, #6:

The only things that matter is that they were hidden and were lethal.

Nope. What mattered was whether they represented an actual threat to the people of the United States or other friendly nations. Old chemical ordnance sites that had essentially turned into dangerous toxic waste dumps did not.

@another+vet, #7:

He wasn’t supposed to have any WMD- old or new.

I don’t believe wars should be started based on a violation of terms that is a mere technicality. The consequences of doing so are far worse than the violation itself. As we can now see.

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Comment on Thousands of non-existent Iraq Chemical Weapons Destroyed in Open Air, Watchdog Says by another+vet http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/thousands-of-non-existent-iraq-chemical-weapons-destroyed-in-open-air-watchdog-says/comment-page-1/#comment-462073 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:22:18 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?post_type=most_wanted&p=104527#comment-462073 @Bill: Exactly. He wasn’t supposed to have any WMD- old or new. The charge was that he had both and old and new and an ongoing WMD program. If this all of the WMD that existed, then those claiming he had WMD got it at least partially right. The naysaying lefties who are now lying about their original position that he had NO WMD, got it 100% wrong which is why they are now lying about their original position. The studies that concluded he didn’t have an ongoing WMD program or that he didn’t have any new WMD obviously didn’t do as thorough of a job as they said they did given they missed finding almost 5,000 WMD. I would argue that the old stockpiles found themselves constitute a WMD program just not as lethal as thought, again that’s assuming he didn’t have newer WMD. Those documents are heavily redacted so they don’t tell us everything.

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Comment on Hillary 2016: Cash for a clunker by Jammer http://floppingaces.net/2014/11/24/if-americans-want-that-new-car-smell-this-isnt-the-droid-you-seek/comment-page-1/#comment-462072 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:12:03 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?p=104525#comment-462072 Interesting how lunatics wingnuts have to always frame their criticism of certain Democrats with a hint of racism or misogyny.

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Comment on The tab for king obama’s amnesty decree? It could be $6 TRILLION by Greg http://floppingaces.net/2014/11/23/the-tab-for-king-obamas-amnesty-decree-it-could-be-6-trillion/comment-page-1/#comment-462071 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:11:46 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?p=104427#comment-462071 @Bill, #20:

You apparently don’t understand the meaning of the definitions that you just posted. Perhaps you’re having trouble with the distinction between a temporary and permanent measure? Between deferring an action and a determination that that action will never be taken?

This may be like a bolt of lightening to you, Greg, but while it is the job of Congress to legislate laws (something Obama seems to be dimly aware of), NOTHING says they have to rubber stamp what Democrats want.

Did you miss the part about an immigration reform bill having been created by bipartisan effort and passed by a wide bipartisan margin in the Senate last year? No rubber stamping was required. What was required was that the House address their attention to that bill and modify or amend it as they deemed appropriate. That is their function, when Congress is working as intended.

If they believe their Constitutional function is to block anything and everything until they get their own way, which has less than a snowball’s chance in hell of ever coming to pass, they should be honest about it. Then we could replace them next election with people who aren’t so pigheaded that they’ve become worse than useless.

There is no breakdown of the immigration system. There is a breakdown in border security and immigration laws enforcement. This breakdown results in millions of revenue-sapping illegal immigrants constantly flowing into our country.

The GOP liked them well enough when there was money to be made from exploiting an inexhaustible pool of dirt cheap workers, which had no recourse but to take what they could get without complaint because they were kept legally powerless. Now the GOP is exploiting the negative consequences of their continued presence, and blaming their political opponents for the fact that there’s no convenient way (or humane way, as if that mattered to them) to remove nearly 12 million people from the place many of them think of as their home.

An immigration system that offers no real way to deal with such a problem is, in fact, in need of some work. Anyone with a lick of sense can see that. What Obama did is an administrative stopgap measure. Nothing more. Long-term solutions, whatever they might be, are up to Congress.

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Comment on The tab for king obama’s amnesty decree? It could be $6 TRILLION by Randy http://floppingaces.net/2014/11/23/the-tab-for-king-obamas-amnesty-decree-it-could-be-6-trillion/comment-page-1/#comment-462069 Tue, 25 Nov 2014 00:03:55 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?p=104427#comment-462069 @Bill: Greg would need to learn to read in addition to understanding Obama Care even after it was passed.

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Comment on Thousands of non-existent Iraq Chemical Weapons Destroyed in Open Air, Watchdog Says by Bill http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/thousands-of-non-existent-iraq-chemical-weapons-destroyed-in-open-air-watchdog-says/comment-page-1/#comment-462068 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:46:18 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?post_type=most_wanted&p=104527#comment-462068 @another+vet:
No one disputes that. The significant word in the above sentence is “old.”

The significant words are “Iraqi”, “chemical” and “weapons”. I don’t recall anyone putting a date stamp on the eligibility of any WMD’s. The only things that matter is that they were hidden and were lethal.

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Comment on Thousands of non-existent Iraq Chemical Weapons Destroyed in Open Air, Watchdog Says by Greg http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/thousands-of-non-existent-iraq-chemical-weapons-destroyed-in-open-air-watchdog-says/comment-page-1/#comment-462067 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:43:20 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?post_type=most_wanted&p=104527#comment-462067 Right. I’m sure the Bush administration would have easily sold an invasion of Iraq to the American people and their elected representatives by telling them that we had to destroy unaccounted for stockpiles of deteriorated and dysfunctional chemical ordnance to keep America safe.

If you want to see the people who can’t be reasoned with, look in a mirror.

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Comment on The tab for king obama’s amnesty decree? It could be $6 TRILLION by Bill http://floppingaces.net/2014/11/23/the-tab-for-king-obamas-amnesty-decree-it-could-be-6-trillion/comment-page-1/#comment-462066 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:42:16 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?p=104427#comment-462066 @Greg:
Deferring prosecution and deportation for a 3-year period is not amnesty. The legal effect of amnesty would be permanent.

Again….

noun, plural amnesties.
1.
a general pardon for offenses, especially political offenses, against a government, often granted before any trial or conviction.
2.
Law. an act of forgiveness for past offenses, especially to a class of persons as a whole.
3.
a forgetting or overlooking of any past offense.

It’s amnesty. Regardless of whether or not you or Obama agree with what the meaning of the word actually is and how what he has done is described by the Gruber-gallery, he has granted amnesty on an amorphous group of criminals.

Congress is supposed to deal with national problems like this by crafting legislation that properly addresses the reality of the situation.

This may be like a bolt of lightening to you, Greg, but while it is the job of Congress to legislate laws (something Obama seems to be dimly aware of), NOTHING says they have to rubber stamp what Democrats want. If the minority party feels legislation is bad, they have powers with which to do whatever they can to stop it. The Senate bill does not address border security, without which we just keep solving (or reacting to) the same problem over and over. The left, obviously, just wants the illegals to keep on coming because, after a while, even some liberals catch on and abandon the cause of bankrupting America. So, it becomes necessary to import ignorant people that can be easily manipulated.

The cumulative results of a neglected breakdown of the nation’s immigration system over the course of several decades is one such.

There is no breakdown of the immigration system. There is a breakdown in border security and immigration laws enforcement. This breakdown results in millions of revenue-sapping illegal immigrants constantly flowing into our country. Amnesty does NOTHING to solve that problem. It only solves the problem of an enlightened electorate.

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Comment on Thousands of non-existent Iraq Chemical Weapons Destroyed in Open Air, Watchdog Says by another+vet http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/thousands-of-non-existent-iraq-chemical-weapons-destroyed-in-open-air-watchdog-says/comment-page-1/#comment-462065 Mon, 24 Nov 2014 23:21:36 +0000 http://floppingaces.net/?post_type=most_wanted&p=104527#comment-462065 @Bill:

That’s easy; “These aren’t the ones we were looking for.”

That’s exactly what they’ll say completely changing their story that he had NO WMD. They can’t help but lie about this topic or any other one. The left has ZERO integrity which is why it’s pointless to debate or try to reason with them.

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