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		<title>Iran&#8217;s Political Power Struggle [Reader Post]</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Warren Beatty</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Iran has been much in the news lately, with its atomic bomb, er, energy program, its nuclear scientist short lifespan, its “Close the Strait of Hormuz” exercise, its telling the US that an aircraft carrier had better not come back into the Persian Gulf, and its test firing of a home built missile. So I thought a look at its internal politics may prove interesting. <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/01/19/irans-political-power-struggle-reader-post/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>Iran has been much in the news lately, with its atomic bomb, er, energy program, its nuclear scientist short lifespan, its &#8220;Close the Strait of Hormuz&#8221; exercise, its telling the US that an aircraft carrier had better not come back into the Persian Gulf, and its test firing of a home built missile. So I thought a look at its internal politics may prove interesting.
<p> The <a href="http://gawker.com/5799504/is-ahmadinejad-on-his-way-out">power struggle in Iran</a> between the supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, could lead to Ahmadinejad&#8217;s resignation. <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2011/05/ahmadinejad-in-the-crosshairs.html">It was predictable</a> that when Intelligence Minister Heydar Moslehi resigned (or was dismissed) from Ahmadinejad&#8217;s cabinet in April, 2011, it would be costly for Ahmadinejad. The extent of the damage for Ahmadinejad&#8217;s defiance of Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is now becoming clear. According to the Tehran <i>Etedaal</i> newspaper, several people close to Ahmadinejad and his chief of staff, Esfandiar Rahim Mashaei, have been arrested by security services. <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2011/04/a-costly-resignation.html">Moslehi defied Ahmadinejad</a> by being more loyal to Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Got that? It has always been difficult to be a player in Iranian politics/religion. </p>
<p> The attack on the <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/8925067/Iran-Britain-withdraws-all-diplomatic-staff-after-Tehran-attacks.html">British embassy in Tehran in November</a>, 2011, by Iranian &#8220;youths&#8221; is another example of this situation. Ali Larijani, speaker of the Iranian parliament, condemned Great Britain and said that the action of Iranian &#8220;youth&#8221; was reflecting the view of all Iranians. This line had to have been transmitted through Khamenei&#8217;s office that already supported the embassy attack as &#8220;the people&#8217;s reaction&#8221; to Britain&#8217;s hostile economic action (sanctions). </p>
<p> <a href="http://spectator.org/archives/2011/12/23/reading-the-persian-tea-leaves">Ahmadinejad attempted to undermine Larijani</a>, a political competitor and possible presidential candidate in 2013. Ahmadinejad took a big political chance and went against the already established line by opposing the diplomatic sanctions already called for against Great Britain. A more cynical interpretation of the Iranian president&#8217;s tactic would suggest he recognizes that Ayatollah Khamenei does not support him or his political future, and in consequence Ahmadinejad decided to seek political support from the more moderate elements in Iranian politics. His turning to those who represent a less confrontational wing of Iran&#8217;s political life may be his only hope of continuing to remain a major player. </p>
<p> From a practical point of view the internal security service of <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2011/04/a-costly-resignation.html">VEVAK</a>, the al Quds force within the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, and the Council of Guardians are the operative instruments of Ayatollah Khamenei that hold the physical and ideological reins of power. If an individual or group seeks to wrest power from the existing structure militarily, judicially, or politically, they seemingly have an insurmountable obstacle to overcome. If a politician (in this case Ahmadinejad) takes a line contrary to that which is generally approved by the supreme leader&#8217;s office, but can point to a form of consent from one of the power centers (in this case, the Council of Guardians), he has covered himself. </p>
<p> The ultimate question then becomes whether or not Ayatollah Ali Khamenei can remain as the supreme leader, and the answer is in the hands of the religious hierarchy, not the electoral process. And the answer to this question has some very real implications for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. </p>
<p> Just what the rest of the world needs &#8211; a political power struggle in Iran while it develops nuclear weapons and buys delivery systems from North Korea. </p>
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<p align="center">But that&#8217;s just my opinion.</p>
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		<title>Obama surrenders national security [Reader Post]</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrJohn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whose side is he on? I have already posed that question.

It’s not enough that Barack Obama gives away British missile secrets to the Russians: <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/01/12/obama-surrenders-national-security-reader-post/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>Whose side is he on? I have already posed that <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/02/25/the-manchurian-president-reader-post/">question</a>. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not enough that Barack Obama <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8304654/WikiLeaks-cables-US-agrees-to-tell-Russia-Britains-nuclear-secrets.html">gives away British missile secrets</a> to the Russians: </p>
<blockquote><p>
The US secretly agreed to give the Russians sensitive information on Britain’s nuclear deterrent to persuade them to sign a key treaty, The Daily Telegraph can disclose. </p>
<p>Information about every Trident missile the US supplies to Britain will be given to Russia as part of an arms control deal signed by President Barack Obama next week.</p>
<p>Defence analysts claim the agreement risks undermining Britain’s policy of refusing to confirm the exact size of its nuclear arsenal.</p>
<p>The fact that the Americans used British nuclear secrets as a bargaining chip also sheds new light on the so-called “special relationship”, which is shown often to be a one-sided affair by US diplomatic communications obtained by the WikiLeaks website. </p></blockquote>
<p>Now Obama seems bent on <a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/jan/4/inside-the-ring-215329133/?page=2">weakening our national defense</a>s to the point of uselessness. </p>
<blockquote><p>President Obama signaled Congress this week that he is prepared to share U.S. missile defense secrets with Russia.</p>
<p>In the president’s signing statement issued Saturday in passing into law the fiscal 2012 defense authorization bill, Mr. Obama said restrictions aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on U.S. Standard Missile-3 velocity burnout parameters might impinge on his constitutional foreign policy authority.</p>
<p>As first disclosed in this space several weeks ago, U.S. officials are planning to provide Moscow with the SM-3 data, despite reservations from security officials who say that doing so could compromise the effectiveness of the system by allowing Russian weapons technicians to counter the missile. The weapons are considered some of the most effective high-speed interceptors in the U.S. missile defense arsenal.</p>
<p>There are also concerns that Russia could share the secret data with China and rogue states such as Iran and North Korea to help their missile programs defeat U.S. missile defense.</p></blockquote>
<p>Congress tried to stop him </p>
<blockquote><p>Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology, as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they would be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.</p></blockquote>
<p>but Obama has let it be known that he will have no part of anyone preventing him from giving away defense intelligence:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Obama said in the signing statement that he would treat the legal restrictions as “non-binding.”</p>
<p>“While my administration intends to keep the Congress fully informed of the status of U.S. efforts to cooperate with the Russian Federation on ballistic missile defense, my administration will also interpret and implement section 1244 in a manner that does not interfere with the president’s constitutional authority to conduct foreign affairs and avoids the undue disclosure of sensitive diplomatic communications.” </p></blockquote>
<p>Apparently nostalgic for another massive breach of national security Barack Obama wants to arrange another<a href="http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/21/inside-the-ring-105581724/?page=all"> Chinese nuclear scientist exchange</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Deputy Energy Secretary Daniel B. Poneman is working on a major Obama administration initiative that would renew scientist exchanges between U.S. nuclear weapons laboratories and Chinese nuclear facilities.</p>
<p>The idea is aimed at promoting openness and transparency by China&#8217;s military about its secret, large-scale buildup of nuclear weapons, according to U.S. officials.</p>
<p>Critics say the plan is similar to an exchange program in the 1990s that sent U.S. nuclear scientists to China and produced one of the worst cases of nuclear espionage. Secrets about every deployed warhead in the U.S. arsenal were compromised, including the W-88 small nuclear warhead deployed on submarine-launched missiles.</p>
<p>“We’ve seen this movie before, and it has a bad ending,” one official said.
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<p>Unlike Obama, the Chinese are resisting, recognizing the value of secrecy.</p>
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Chinese officials repeatedly have rejected U.S. calls for strategic nuclear talks, most recently in January during the visit there by then-Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates.</p>
<p>A 2008 State Department cable quoted Chinese Foreign Ministry official He Yafei as rejecting U.S. appeals for Chinese nuclear transparency, noting that openness “would eliminate the value of China’s strategic deterrent.”</p></blockquote>
<p>How ironic that the President who wants to help <a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/12/obamas-justice-department-joins-britains-climategate-leaker-manhunt/2006206">prosecute the leaker of the climategate emails</a> himself is so willing to leak national security secrets on his own.</p>
<p>It is no longer simply a good idea to change Presidents. It is absolutely imperative. Without such a change, we have no hope.</p>
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		<title>Obama Slashing The Military&#8230;While Growing Entitlements</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 03:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Worst. President. Ever.

<blockquote>In an ironic counterpoint to the extra-Constitutional power grab he used to get an unlimited new bureaucracy up and running, President Obama popped into the Pentagon on Thursday to announce massive military cuts – grabbing some new cash for social spending by cutting back on one of the few duties Washington is actually <em>supposed </em>to perform.</blockquote> <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/01/05/obama-slashing-the-military-while-growing-entitlements/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=48582" target="_blank">Worst. President. Ever.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In an ironic counterpoint to the extra-Constitutional power grab he used to get an unlimited new bureaucracy up and running, President Obama popped into the Pentagon on Thursday to announce massive military cuts – grabbing some new cash for social spending by cutting back on one of the few duties Washington is actually <em>supposed </em>to perform.  This will effectively spell the end of the traditional U.S. military doctrine that our armed forces must be able to fight two enemies at once, which is okay, because that has never ever happened before, and anyway the world is nice and peaceful now.</p>
<p>At least we can be confident that America’s potential enemies don’t factor the size of our military into their strategic calculations when they contemplate aggression.  Besides, if we need more troops, we can just hire them real quick, toss them some rifles, and load them into planes.  War is easy nowadays.</p>
<p>&#8230;It’s funny how liberals think the military is the one and only sector of the U.S. government that should get “leaner” and more “flexible” or “agile.”  Is there a single other endeavor of the government that Obama thinks could be improved by having fewer federal employees?  Doesn’t the urgency of eliminating men and women in uniform to hit that $450 billion target say something about the high cost of labor that liberals are usually uncomfortable discussing?</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/05/us-usa-military-obama-idUSTRE8031Z020120105">Reuters is reporting</a> this is a cut of 10&#8242;s of thousands of troops. As John Hayward wrote above, Obama is so naive, so utterly clueless, he believes our wars (and there will be future ones) can be fought long distance&#8230;.<a href="http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2012/01/obama-fights-two-front-war-against-us.html" target="_blank">or does he</a>?</p>
<blockquote><p>In the president’s signing statement issued Saturday in passing into law the fiscal 2012 defense authorization bill, Mr. Obama said restrictions aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on U.S. Standard Missile-3 velocity burnout parameters might impinge on his constitutional foreign policy authority.</p>
<p><center><a href="http://bigpeace.com/jpollak/2012/01/04/obama-to-share-missile-defense-secrets-with-russia/"><img id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5694310675797572994" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-4cFVkmz5s5Y/TwZBY8-g_YI/AAAAAAAApsA/p52v4y7f1P8/s1600/120105-standard-missile-3.gif" alt="" border="1" width="450" /></a></center></p>
<p>As first disclosed in this space several weeks ago, U.S. officials are planning to provide Moscow with the SM-3 data, despite reservations from security officials who say that doing so could compromise the effectiveness of the system by allowing Russian weapons technicians to counter the missile. The weapons are considered some of the most effective high-speed interceptors in the U.S. missile defense arsenal.</p>
<p>There are also concerns that Russia could share the secret data with China and rogue states such as Iran and North Korea to help their missile programs defeat U.S. missile defenses.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe not.  I suppose he is just happy knowing we are now no longer a superpower.  No longer a threat to anyone.  Because then everyone will leave us alone right?</p>
<p>Where will that money go, the money that was supposed to go to the only real job a President has?</p>
<p>To pay for <a href="http://weaselzippers.us/2012/01/05/obamas-executive-order-youth-jobs-plan-includes-110000-unpaid-positions-will-cost-u-s-taxpayers-1-5-billion/" target="_blank">110,000 unpaid jobs</a> and other entitlement program he can muster up.</p>
<p>In Obama&#8217;s world higher taxes creates jobs, throwing free money around makes better citizens, and a smaller military makes stronger.</p>
<p>Worst. President. Ever.</p>
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		<title>Barack Obama has become a monster [Reader Post]</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrJohn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Obama again proves that only gullible, stupid people vote for him.

Posted on the pomposity that is the <a href="http://change.gov/agenda/ethics_agenda/">site </a>of the "Office of the President Elect" it says this:

<blockquote><strong>Protect Whistleblowers</strong>: Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled.</blockquote> <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/19/barack-obama-has-become-a-monster-reader-post/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>And Obama again proves that only gullible, stupid people vote for him.</p>
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<p>Posted on the pomposity that is the <a href="http://change.gov/agenda/ethics_agenda/">site </a>of the &#8220;Office of the President Elect&#8221; it says this:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Protect Whistleblowers</strong>: Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government. Obama will ensure that federal agencies expedite the process for reviewing whistleblower claims and whistleblowers have full access to courts and due process. </p></blockquote>
<p>That, as is just about everything else about Barack Obama, is chock full of manure. It is as phony as he is.</p>
<p>Baack Obama promised to protect whistleblowers and instead has done absolutely the opposite. This must have come as quite a shock to the liberal media. Tears likely washed on the fingers of Jane Mayer as she <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/05/23/110523fa_fact_mayer#ixzz1gnmeuMvM">wrote</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>When President Barack Obama took office, in 2009, he championed the cause of government transparency, and spoke admiringly of whistle-blowers, whom he described as “often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government.” But the Obama Administration has pursued leak prosecutions with a surprising relentlessness. Including the Drake case, it has been using the Espionage Act to press criminal charges in five alleged instances of national-security leaks—more such prosecutions than have occurred in all previous Administrations combined. The Drake case is one of two that Obama’s Justice Department has carried over from the Bush years.</p>
<p>Gabriel Schoenfeld, a conservative political scientist at the Hudson Institute, who, in his book “Necessary Secrets” (2010), argues for more stringent protection of classified information, says, “Ironically, Obama has presided over the most draconian crackdown on leaks in our history—even more so than Nixon.”
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<p><em>&#8220;More than Nixon&#8221;</em></p>
<p>In the <a href="http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/05/obamas-war-whistle-blowers/38106/">Atlantic Wire</a> John Hudson writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>The Justice Department&#8217;s subpoena of New York Times reporter James Risen Monday was the latest sign of how aggressive the Obama administration is being in its campaign against government whistle-blowers. The purpose of Risen&#8217;s subpoena is to force him to testify that Jeffrey Sterling, a former CIA agent, gave him confidential information about the CIA&#8217;s efforts to sabotage Iran&#8217;s nuclear program. The extent to which the administration is prosecuting leakers has troubled those who see leakers as speakers of truth to power. &#8220;In President Obama’s 26 months in office, civilian and military prosecutors have charged five people in cases involving leaking information, more than all previous presidents combined,&#8221; reports the Times. Here&#8217;s a list of prominent leakers with various agendas currently under pressure from the government.</p></blockquote>
<p>Obama&#8217;s war on whistleblowers also includes <a href="http://www.forbes.com/sites/frankminiter/2011/12/07/inside-president-obamas-war-on-the-fast-furious-whistleblowers/">those who would tell us the truth about Fast and Furious</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Senator Grassley pointed out that the documents DOJ released to smear Dodson were actually supposed to be so sensitive that the DOJ wouldn’t provide them to congressional investigators. But then, to harm a whistleblower, someone from the DOJ provided these specifically selected documents to the press. In fact, the name of the criminal suspect in the documents was redacted, but Agent Dodson’s name was left for all to see. “This looks like a clear and intentional violation of the Privacy Act as well as an attempt at whistleblower retaliation,” said Grassley.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now Obama trains his sights on those who would uncover the biggest fraud of our times- climate change. Obama is joining the British government in trying to identify the leaker of the climtategate emails. Christopher Horner in the <a href="http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/2011/12/obamas-justice-department-joins-britains-climategate-leaker-manhunt/2006206">Washington Examiner</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have seen apparent proof that the United States Department of Justice (DOJ), Criminal Division, is working with United Kingdom police to pursue the leaker of the 2009 and 2011 “Climategate” emails. </p>
<p>I have learned that last week DOJ sent a search-and-seizure letter to the host of three climate-change &#8220;skeptic&#8221; blogs. Last night, UK police raided a blogger’s home and removed computers and equipment.</p>
<p>The leaked records derailed “cap-and-trade” legislation in the U.S. and, internationally, as well as talks for a successor to the Kyoto Protocol. The emails and computer code were produced with taxpayer funds and held on taxpayer-owned computers both in the US and the UK, and all were subject to the UK Freedom of Information Act, the U.S. Freedom of Information Act and state FOIA laws.</p>
<p>They also were being unlawfully withheld in both the UK (by the University of East Anglia) and the U.S. (Department of Commerce’s National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), including stonewalling me for two years, and three other requesters for longer).</p>
<p>The hunt involving U.S. and UK law enforcement agencies is now escalating. On Wednesday night UK time, six detectives with the UK police (Norfolk Police Department) raided the home of at least one blogger, removing his equipment to look for clues to the identity of leaker “FOIA 2011.”</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>To review: The UK police and the US DOJ, Criminal Division, are pursuing a leaker of public records subject to one or more FOIA, records that were unlawfully withheld under those laws, which leaks indicate apparent civil violations (tortious interference by seeking dismissal of certain “skeptics”), and raising reasonable questions of fraud against taxpayers.</p>
<p>And they are pursuing the leaker.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the President who promised to protect whistleblowers but now pursues them with a vengeance. This is the President who refuses to prosecute those who break the laws and <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/14/holder-ignores-voter-intimidation-but-will-go-after-voter-id-requirements/">promises to prosecute those who enforce the laws</a>. This is the Preisdent who demanded all Americans be <a href="http://jonathanturley.org/2011/12/15/obama-breaks-promise-to-veto-bill-allowing-indefinite-detention-of-americans/">subject to indefinite detention</a> <a href="http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/">without trial</a>.</p>
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<p>Obama has proven that not only is he was awful as many of us thought him to be, not only has he brought the slime of Chicago to Washington, not only has he <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/axelrod-jabs-gingrich-higher-a-monkey-climbs-more-you-can-see-his-butt/">stripped all the dignity from the office of the Presidency</a>, he has become a monster. If he is re-elected, he will likely remain in office for the rest of his life.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a country boy with six years of formal schooling, I am hardly the one to question the role of intellectuals in politics; however, after reading an article by <a href="http://http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/intellectuals-and-politics/?nl=todaysheadlines&#38;emc=thab1">Gary Gutting</a> in the New York Times, I am reminded of a university professor who asked me to help him with a mule problem.  

I love mules, but you must be careful with a mule, they can kick with lethal force if they feel they have been offended.  Since most of my career with horses has been directed more toward sorting out human problems, rather than equine problems, I was a little apprehensive at the prospect of trying to help this professor and his mule.  To be honest, professors tend to be among the least capable in matters dealing with animals and simple everyday problems.  Problems that men of humble origins and trades can often solve with little or no deliberation, often baffle learned men, who tend to struggle with theory and morality rather than simple and obvious solutions.
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<p>As a country boy with six years of formal schooling, I am hardly the one to question the role of intellectuals in politics; however, after reading an article by <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/07/intellectuals-and-politics/?nl=todaysheadlines&amp;emc=thab1" target="_blank">Gary Gutting</a> in the New York Times, I am reminded of a university professor who asked me to help him with a mule problem.  </p>
<p>I love mules, but you must be careful with a mule, they can kick with lethal force if they feel they have been offended.  Since most of my career with horses has been directed more toward sorting out human problems, rather than equine problems, I was a little apprehensive at the prospect of trying to help this professor and his mule.  To be honest, professors tend to be among the least capable in matters dealing with animals and simple everyday problems.  Problems that men of humble origins and trades can often solve with little or no deliberation, often baffle learned men, who tend to struggle with theory and morality rather than simple and obvious solutions.</p>
<p>In my youth, I helped several professors who wanted to be closer to the past and nature by owning and riding a horse.  Fair enough, everyone needs an excuse for owning these expensive beasts, and seeking some elemental force of nature, makes as much sense as the rest of the excuses.  However, mules often have a proclivity for exacting revenge on the human race for perceived injustices of a past life; therefore, I believe, mules are best handled by bona fide mule men, not university professors living in nineteenth century log houses, who want to get in touch with their roots (human not tree), but I heard a calling to help my fellow man and I saw an opportunity to make a few bucks.</p>
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<p>I rode my Triumph motorcycle out through the country and enjoyed the colors of fall.  I marveled at the beauty of the hardwood leaves after the frosts had killed them, and arrived at the professor&#8217;s farm with more than a little trepidation for what might lay ahead, hoping I wouldn&#8217;t end up like the colorful leaves.  </p>
<p>The professor was glad to see me and dropped the standard pretensions of a tenured professor with condescension for all those who speak with country accents and wear cowboy boots.  He seemed to be almost childlike in his excitement at  my presence.  He was proud of his farm, a former homestead, it was over 150 years old.  Some poor homesteader had put his whole life into this 160 acres, a quarter section that at best, could barely yield forty bushels of topsoil an acre, it had never grown a decent crop and today it was a struggle to grow a garden, but it had once again, grown another crop of hard wood trees.  But the professor owned it now, and it was a beautiful farm, despite not having crops or pasture.</p>
<p>He showed me, his log barn, his fine harness carriage, his buckboard, and his mule Emily.  It was a match made in heaven; he loved the mule and the mule loved him.  Emily was a mule that had never been abused by cruel hands and she was a model citizen.  I had worried over problems that didn&#8217;t exist.  </p>
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<p>While the professor gushed over his mule and his farm, I began to wonder why I had been summoned to this farm.  Everything seemed perfect, far better than most equine situations I am called to visit.  The professor finally had to take a break in his speech to catch his wind and I asked why he needed me.</p>
<p>He apologized and said,&#8221;I need you to raise the front door of the barn.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was once known as a guy who could or at least try to do anything around a farm or ranch, but this seemed like ann odd request.  It was an old square log barn and had large blocks of limestone located in strategic spots for a foundation.  It was a good system, but not really designed to last a 150 years; the blocks had settled a little deeper every spring during the rains, and now the barn was a little lower than normal, but still high enough to function well.  I tried to tell the professor the height of the lintel was well within the realm of reason, but he was agitated that I couldn&#8217;t grasp the seriousness of the problem.</p>
<p>He said I would need to see the problem myself, and put a halter with a lead shank on Emily and led her through the front door of the barn.  I&#8217;ve only worked with thirty or forty mules, so I don&#8217;t really know if this is typical mule behavior, but when she walked through the door, she carried her ears straight up and rubbed them against the oak lintel of the door.  As a horseman, I have been asked to deal with some bizarre problems, but this didn&#8217;t really seem to be a serious problem.  </p>
<p>When I told the professor my feelings, he was incredulous, &#8220;Don&#8217;t you realize, she will wear the hair off her ears.&#8221;  He showed me a vague strip of wear on the front of her ears.  I wasn&#8217;t totally convinced that the perceived wear of the mule&#8217;s ears and the lintel were related, but some arguments aren&#8217;t really worth getting started.</p>
<p>I explained that the lintel over the door of the well made dove tailed barn was a special log, chosen for its strength, grain, and straightness.  If I sawed into the log, we might be inviting trouble by compromising strength at a critical spot, that spot being the span over the door.  </p>
<p>He was lost in deep thought over this information being added and causing complications to this unique predicament.  I broke the silence by saying, &#8220;There is a much easier solution.&#8221;</p>
<p>With a look of incredulous exasperation, he twisted his lips to the side of his face, to hear my solution,  &#8220;I can dig a trench about eight inches deep in the dirt beneath the door.&#8221;</p>
<p>He looked at me like I was an idiot and said, &#8220;It&#8217;s not her damn feet I&#8217;m worried about, it&#8217;s her ears.&#8221;</p>
<p>This professor considered himself an intellectual, and to him, I was but a mere tradesman of mortal lineage.  True to the myopia of philosophy, his only concern was the ears of the mare, and he was determined to reach a conclusion by employing critical thinking: I was limited, by nature of an inferior intellect to solutions not based in theory and critical thinking, but to those related to real and practical solutions.  </p>
<p>Mr Gutting is a professor of philosophy at Notre Dame; and is convinced of the superiority of critical thinking, but fails to mention the utter failure of the Obama Administration, an administration made up exclusively of critical thinkers from academia.  Yet, after this stark demonstration of dismal failure by critical thinkers, we are supposed to be reassured by Mr Gutting&#8217;s self-serving arrogance, that seeks to legitimize a personal image of importance, after all, he writes for The Stone, &#8220;A forum for contemporary philosophers on issues both timely and timeless.&#8221;</p>
<p>With unabashed arrogance, Gary assures us of his intelligence, by informing us that he is among the most august of critical thinkers, &#8220;I&#8217;m an intellectual myself&#8221;; it&#8217;s just possible, that within this particular oxymoronic phrase, may be a clue to this deviant personality that is currently running amuck in government and in a permanent state of denial as to the charges of incompetence and corruption.  Denial has become more than a river in Egypt, it is an endemic example of hubris among the not so bright intellectuals, currently in serving in the Obama Administration, who are teetering above the abyss of failure and humiliation.</p>
<p>From the nimble but dull fingers of Gutting and the pages of the NYT:</p>
<blockquote><p>What is an intellectual?  In general, someone seriously devoted to what used to be called the “life of the mind”: thinking pursued not instrumentally, for the sake of practical goals, but simply for the sake of knowing and understanding.  Nowadays, universities are the most congenial spots for intellectuals, although even there corporatism and careerism are increasing threats.</p></blockquote>
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<p>It is such a joy, to read of someone describing himself as an intellectual, who writes with such finesse and precision.  I am reminded of a cowardly man doing battle with a bed of rattle snakes while armed with a grub hoe.  After reading this pregnant phrase of many vectors, &#8220;someone seriously devoted to what used to be called the&#8221; it&#8217;s obvious that intellectuals aren&#8217;t required or expected to write well.  For reference, we know Hemingway was the master of the simple and concise sentence, and Melville was a genius with the complex double and triple entente; may we assume Gary Gutting is the champion of lost and bewildered adverbial phrases.</p>
<p>It would be easy enough to eviscerate Gary Gutting on the merits of his writing ability and embarrass him in front of his peers and anyone else who can read, but it is his message we seek.  For if there is a protasis within this fart, stumble, fall style of writing, it evades the reader.  For while his prose delights the ear of those who crave the mundane and boring, his adverbs assault our dignity in a relentless pursuit of relevance, but like the dog chasing its tail, his periphrasis becomes his catharsis.  Relating to Aristotle, in Chapter VI of Poetics, &#8220;Tragedy through pity and fear effects a purgation of such emotions.&#8221; <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/10/arrogance-and-condescension-are-but-masks-to-hide-insecurity/aristotle1-4/" rel="attachment wp-att-74046"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/aristotle1.jpg" alt="" width="204" height="285" class="alignright size-full wp-image-74046" /></a></p>
<p>Gary Gutting is primarily concerned with Newt or more precisely, fear of Newt.  Newt is a bit of a problem for Leftists; oh fear not, they have excess baggage charges and they are ready to confront and dun him for back payments, but that is not the strategic issue.  The prospect of an empty suit engaging Newt in debate is the terrifying issue.  Oh dear, it brings to mind the great defeats of history, Stalingrad, Waterloo, The Little Big Horn.  There is always the excitement of the contest beforehand, and the first few minutes when hope still springs eternal, before that same hope becomes a forlorn hope, but it is only a matter of time, before they are faced with the inevitable prospect of annihilation and utter defeat.</p>
<p>How best to neutralize the prospect of a witless pseudo-intellectual champion being embarrassed in the arena of ideas and indirectly casting aspersions toward all those who say with arrogance and condescension, &#8220;I&#8217;m an intellectual myself&#8221;; there is a simple solution, impress upon everyone, that intellectualism is a collective team effort of critical thought and that is how ignorance must be defeated.  One man can&#8217;t be expected to lead a country; he needs a gaggle clueless intellectuals.  <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/10/arrogance-and-condescension-are-but-masks-to-hide-insecurity/today-parcoltop22-81021-imagefile-4/" rel="attachment wp-att-74050"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/today.parcoltop22.81021.ImageFile.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="202" class="alignright size-full wp-image-74050" /></a></p>
<p>Unfortunately, Newt doesn&#8217;t need a team for a debate or a teleprompter, and pitting him against a fool who seems to be bewildered without his faithful teleprompter, will be like slaughtering lambs in an abattoir.  A scene that doubtless will cause even the most cold blooded Socialist to admit the futility of resisting the epiplexis of a Newt/Hussein comedic tragedy.</p>
<p>Poor Gary, in an attempt to establish credibility as an intellectual and advance his vague aphorisms, he tries to use the obligatory and token reference to poor Plato, a man who understood the inherent weakness of adverbs and relied as little as possible on the ancients for guidance.  We can assume that Gary not only understands the Cliff Notes version of Plato, but he is not afraid or reluctant to employ a deluge of adverbs.<a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/10/arrogance-and-condescension-are-but-masks-to-hide-insecurity/170px-diogenes-statue-sinop-enhanced-2/" rel="attachment wp-att-74051"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/170px-Diogenes-statue-Sinop-enhanced.jpg" alt="" width="170" height="227" class="alignright size-full wp-image-74051" /></a></p>
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In his “Republic,” Plato put forward the ideal of a state ruled by intellectuals who combined comprehensive theoretical knowledge with the practical capacity for applying it to concrete problems.  In reality, no one has theoretical expertise in more than a few specialized subjects, and there is no strong correlation between having such knowledge and being able to use it to resolve complex social and political problems.  Even more important, our theoretical knowledge is often highly limited, so that even the best available expert advice may be of little practical value.  An experienced and informed non-expert may well have a better sense of these limits than experts strongly invested in their disciplines.  This analysis supports the traditional American distrust of intellectuals: they are not in general highly suited for political office.</p></blockquote>
<p>We now know that in a politically correct world, we need intellectuals to prescribe correct thinking and appreciation; otherwise, we might lose ourselves in original thought processes.</p>
<blockquote><p>
Intellectuals tell us things we need to know: how nature and society work, what happened in our past, how to analyze concepts, how to appreciate art and literature.   They also keep us in conversation with the great minds of our past.  This conversation may not, as some hope, tap into a source of enduring wisdom, but it at least provides a critical standpoint for assessing the limits of our current cultural assumptions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read his entire article if you must, but be prepared to ask yourself why tuition must continue to rise for your children and grandchildren, and will this dubious degree they seek at such expense, teach them to write with the clarity of Gary Gutting or will they be able to maintain the skills they acquired in high school.</p>
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But it does not support the anti-intellectualism that tolerates or even applauds candidates who disdain or are incapable of serious engagement with intellectuals.   Good politicians need not be intellectuals, but they should have intellectual lives.  Concretely, they should have an ability and interest in reading the sorts of articles that appear in, for example, Scientific American, The New York Review of Books, and the science, culture and op-ed sections of major national newspapers — as well as the books discussed in such articles.</p>
<p>It’s often said that what our leaders need is common sense, not fancy theories.  But common-sense ideas that work in individuals’ everyday lives are often useless for dealing with complex problems of society as a whole.  For example, it’s common sense that government payments to the unemployed will lead to more jobs because those receiving the payments will spend the money, thereby increasing demand, which will lead businesses to hire more workers.  But it’s also common sense that if people are paid for not working, they will have less incentive to work, which will increase unemployment.  The trick is to find the amount of unemployment benefits that will strike the most effective balance between stimulating demand and discouraging employment.  This is where our leaders need to talk to economists.</p>
<p>Knowing how to talk to economists and other experts is an essential skill of good political leaders.  This in turn requires a basic understanding of how experts in various fields think and what they might have to offer for resolving a given problem. Leaders need to be intelligent “consumers” of expert opinions.</p></blockquote>
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<p>According to Gary Gutting the intellectual philosopher, our leaders should now, not only be intelligent consumers of intellectual thought but must read the Leftist dogma of Scientific American, the New York Review of Books, and effete pseudo-intellectual rags like the New York Times, but they must also have the ability to listen to monotonous circumlocution and derive a pretense of meaning from gibberish.  Intellectuals are now to be elevated to a higher standing, not only in the community, but more importantly in government and leadership.  For now, they will advise and direct our leadership so they can make intelligent decisions and we are left with the story of Emily&#8217;s ears.<a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/10/arrogance-and-condescension-are-but-masks-to-hide-insecurity/yearling/" rel="attachment wp-att-74044"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/yearling-300x296.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="296" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-74044" /></a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a shock. This President will send troops into Uganda, drop bombs into Libya, back fanatical Muslims in Egypt, but when it comes to Iran….and our top secret technology, he’s a bit timid. <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/08/obama-rejected-plans-to-retrieve-fallen-drone-in-iran/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>What a shock.  This President will send <a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i22DCljw814O0FYw2PKlwUShe_rQ?docId=CNG.e611ebd178808f855c88ccddb02d23b7.f1">troops into Uganda</a>, drop bombs <a href="http://floppingaces.net/category/global-regions/africa/libya/">into Libya</a>, back <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/02/AR2011020204691.html">fanatical Muslims in Egypt</a>, but when it comes to Iran&#8230;.and our top secret technology, he&#8217;s <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/08/iranian-tv-airs-purported-images-downed-us-drone/?test=latestnews">a bit timid</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>With early knowledge that the aircraft had likely remained intact, the senior U.S. official also told Fox News that President Obama was presented with three separate options for retrieving or destroying the drone. The president ultimately decided not to proceed with any of the plans because it could have been seen as an act of war.</p>
<p>&#8230;One official told Fox News on Thursday that the incident is a huge loss and makes the top-secret helicopter tail lost during the Usama bin Laden raid in Pakistan &#8220;look like a pittance.&#8221; The official said there are real fears the Iranians will share this technology with the Russians and the Chinese, in addition to using it themselves.</p></blockquote>
<p>What a pansy.</p>
<p>And then <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=vnObS88mE8Y">he brags</a> about bin-Laden but allows the Muslim Brotherhood to come <a href="http://bigpeace.com/kdavies/2011/12/03/obamas-muslim-brotherhood-favoritism-will-lead-to-war-in-the-middle-east/">ever so closer</a> to their dreamed about sixth Caliphate.</p>
<p>The destruction he has done to this country, and it&#8217;s future security is breathtaking to behold.</p>
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		<title>Obama: I can kill you any time I want [Reader Post]</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[And he don' need no stinkin' judges, but here's where it gets interesting:

<blockquote>Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, is equipped to make military battlefield targeting decisions about who qualifies as an enemy.</blockquote>

So Obama doesn't need judicial oversight to have an American killed on a "military battlefield." And there's the rub. A new law is winding its way through Congress that redefines what a "battlefield" is: <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/12/02/obama-i-can-kill-you-any-time-i-want-reader-post/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p><a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TARGETED_KILLING?SITE=AP&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&amp;CTIME=2011-12-01-10-42-54">Hmmmm</a></p>
<blockquote><p>WASHINGTON (AP) &#8212; U.S. citizens are legitimate military targets when they take up arms with al-Qaida, top national security lawyers in the Obama administration said Thursday.</p>
<p>The lawyers were asked at a national security conference about the CIA killing of Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S. citizen and leading al-Qaida figure. He died in a Sept. 30 U.S. drone strike in the mountains of Yemen.</p>
<p>The government lawyers, CIA counsel Stephen Preston and Pentagon counsel Jeh Johnson, did not directly address the al-Awlaki case. But they said U.S. citizens don&#8217;t have immunity when they&#8217;re at war with the United States.</p></blockquote>
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<p>And he don&#8217; need no stinkin&#8217; judges, but here&#8217;s where it gets interesting:</p>
<blockquote><p>Johnson said only the executive branch, not the courts, is equipped to make military battlefield targeting decisions about who qualifies as an enemy.</p></blockquote>
<p>So Obama doesn&#8217;t need judicial oversight to have an American killed on a &#8220;military battlefield.&#8221; And there&#8217;s the rub. A new law is winding its way through Congress that <a href="http://www.salon.com/writer/glenn_greenwald/">redefines what a &#8220;battlefield&#8221;</a> is:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are several very revealing aspects to all of this. First, the 9/11 attack happened more than a decade ago; Osama bin Laden is dead; the U.S. Government claims it has killed virtually all of Al Qaeda’s leadership and the group is “operationally ineffective” in the Afghan-Pakistan region; and many commentators insisted that these developments would mean that the War on Terror would finally begin to recede. And yet here we have the Congress, on a fully bipartisan basis, acting not only to re-affirm the war but to expand it even further: by <strong>formally declaring that the entire world (including the U.S.) is a battlefield</strong> and the war will essentially go on forever.</p></blockquote>
<p>The confluence of these two would permit an American President to order the termination of ay American he deemed to be necessary. He would not have to consult with Congress nor seek judicial oversight nor even make such an event public. </p>
<p>No one has to know. It&#8217;s a little scary.</p>
<p>George Bush always consulted with Congress whether it was invading Iraq or EHIT&#8217;s. Barack Obama asks no one&#8217;s permission for anything, which is ironic considering <a href="http://reason.com/blog/2011/05/26/president-obama-has-a-much-dif">how mealy-mouthed Obama was</a> about the Patriot Act before he was elected. Obama takes great advantage of the Patriot Act but had the audacity to <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/05/obama-wont-personally-sign-patriot-act-extension/">refuse to sign it personally.</a></p>
<p>This is not confidence-inspiring.</p>
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		<title>A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To Wall Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skook</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Christopher Muffin is a 99%'er; well not quite, actually, he is a new member of the 99%, ever since his dad turned off the money.  His dad is a 1%, who has way too much money and doesn't want to share it anymore with Christopher.  He just doesn't understand, Christopher's mission has been to find himself.  Spending thirteen years at university is nothing, many holy men spend a lifetime searching for their inner being.  

It's a good thing the OWS movement started; otherwise, the university was wanting its tuition or blood money and his dad wasn't going to foot the bill any longer.  Man, that's just bad karma for his dad.
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<p>Christopher Muffin is a 99%&#8217;er; well not quite, actually, he is a new member of the 99%, ever since his dad turned off the money.  His dad is a 1%, who has way too much money and doesn&#8217;t want to share it anymore with Christopher.  He just doesn&#8217;t understand, Christopher&#8217;s mission has been to find himself.  Spending thirteen years at university is nothing, many holy men spend a lifetime searching for their inner being.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good thing the OWS movement started; otherwise, the university was wanting its tuition or blood money and his dad wasn&#8217;t going to foot the bill any longer.  Man, that&#8217;s just bad karma for his dad.</p>
<p>He bought a tent, a sleeping bag and a bag of dope and in a few days he became a bona fide camper or occupier.  Now he spends his days getting high and looking for chicks that need a hero.  How good can it get?</p>
<p>The trouble started a few nights ago when a guy brought out this expensive bong and wanted to smoke some of Christopher&#8217;s dope.  He had this really cute chick with him that was so hot, so it seemed like a good idea.  She had a bottle of wine and after they got started smoking and drinking, Christopher decided it was time to impress the young chick with his knowledge of Marxism and his repertoire of revolutionary quotes. </p>
<p>He stood up to do his recitation, and in the middle of a Karl Marx quote, just as the 18 year old chick was becoming enthralled with his intellect, someone passed him a bottle of wine.  He took a break to have a drink, tilted the bottle up and put his head back to drink, but lost his balance and fell over backwards onto a guy using the glass bong.  The bong broke and the owner was all upset over his $250 bong.  </p>
<p>Christopher had never worked, he had been wealthy all his life, material things don&#8217;t really have value to him.  He shook his head, tried to focus his eyes and said to the owner of the bong while laughing, &#8220;It&#8217;s just a bong, man&#8221;.  </p>
<p>That was the wrong thing to say.  The guy flew into a rage and jumped on Christopher.  </p>
<p>Fortunately, neither man was very dangerous in a rhubarb and the fight was more like professional wrestling than mixed martial arts.  A policeman pulled the man off of Christopher and asked what was going on.  The guy was complaining in the slurred speech of a drunk that Christopher was drunk and had broken his bong.  The cop looked at the man in disbelief, while Christopher used a moment of lucidity to make his escape.  </p>
<p>He drifted through the crowd and started to gather up his tent and sleeping bag when he noticed a big drunk urinating on his tent.  After watching the desecration of his camping equipment, he decided to leave the camping equipment for a more desperate camper in need.  Who knows it might serve as a double tax deduction that way.  He bought it and then he donated it, that&#8217;s a double deduction.  His father the Capitalist pig would be proud of his natural business skills.</p>
<p>He decided to drive to California and join one of their Occupy movements, just until the heat is off and the cops weren&#8217;t looking for him for breaking the dude&#8217;s bong.  He used his credit cards, until he made it to Arizona and he started to have engine problems.  He pulled into a garage and asked the mechanic to look at his Beamer.</p>
<p>It turned out to need a new or rebuilt engine.  He told the mechanic, &#8220;no problem, just put it on the credit card&#8221;.  The mechanic tried to run the numbers, but the card had been decommissioned.  That was Chris&#8217;s dad the evil Capitalist, playing games with Chris&#8217;s life again.  It was going to cost $3,000 for a used engine and he had thirty dollars cash.  The situation wasn&#8217;t looking good.  He told the mechanic, he needed a beer and to hold off on doing anything, until he figured out what to do.</p>
<p>After a couple of beers, he asked the bartender if he knew of any jobs.  The barkeep said there was a rancher who needed men to feed and care for cattle at his feedlot.  He volunteered to call him, if he really wanted to work.  Christopher was desperate, &#8220;give him a call.&#8221;</p>
<p>An hour later, the rancher came into the bar and asked Christopher if he was the one looking for honest work.</p>
<p>Chris looked at the older man dressed in Western clothes and said he needed a job real bad, because his car was broke down.</p>
<p>The old rancher said, &#8220;Well come on out to the ranch and sober up.  You can start tomorrow.  I&#8217;ve got all the work you can handle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chris looked at the hardened old man and said, &#8220;What does this ranch work pay?&#8221;</p>
<p>The rancher looked at him, &#8220;I&#8217;ll pay you what you are worth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Chris stood up, &#8220;Hell no! there&#8217;s no way I&#8217;m going to work for those kind of wages.  What do you think the revolution is all about?&#8221; </p>
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		<title>The Waterboarding Issue is Moot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>Republicans Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann said during a Republican debate on Saturday that they would reinstate the technique that former President George W. Bush authorized and Obama banned.</blockquote>

President Obama has responded to this.  Here's why waterboarding won't be reinstated even if President Bush himself came into a third term...

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<p>President Obama, speaking at the APEC News Conference, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/obama-disagrees-with-gop-presidential-candidates-on-waterboarding/2011/11/13/gIQArcYZJN_story.html">responded</a> to statements made by GOP presidential candidates at Saturday&#8217;s NJ debate:</p>
<blockquote><p>KAPOLEI, Hawaii — President Barack Obama says the interrogation technique known as waterboarding constitutes torturing, disputing Republican presidential candidates who say they would reinstate the practice.</p>
<p>Obama called waterboarding “torture” and said it was “contrary to America’s traditions” during a news conference at the Asian-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit.</p>
<p>Republicans Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann said during a Republican debate on Saturday that they would reinstate the technique that former President George W. Bush authorized and Obama banned.</p></blockquote>
<p>Waterboarding was discontinued in 2006 as a CIA EIT practice under Bush&#8217;s watch as its effectiveness was compromised when its usage as a technique to interrogate HVTs became common knowledge (applied to only 3 HVTs).  President Obama&#8217;s <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/EnsuringLawfulInterrogations/">2009 EO</a> signed upon his first day in office banning all EITs was <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2009/01/24/about-that-presidential-executive-order-on-interrogations/">basically redundant</a> on the torture issue, since President Bush essentially said much the same in his <a href="http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13440.htm">2007 EO</a>.  </p>
<p>The media is reporting that both Cain and Bachmann would <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/cain-bachmann-want-reinstate-waterboarding-020403657.html">reinistate</a>/support waterboarding, if elected.  That&#8217;s not exactly what they said, but it&#8217;s not much of a distorted conclusion to arrive at, based upon their answers to the question posed.</p>
<p>If they meant they would have supported waterboarding at the time it was used, and that it did not rise to the level of definition for torture, then I think those are valid positions to hold.  If, however, they do advocate for bringing it back specifically and not just reviving the EIT program in general, then I have to quibble.  </p>
<p>What made waterboarding- and all the EITs in the CIA program- effective as tools against HVTs who were trained to resist standard interrogation practices, was in the not knowing.  In the secrecy.  Because of all the media attention and President Obama&#8217;s decision to release the OLC &#8220;torture&#8221; memos describing the techniques, the Houdini psychological power of these techniques have been all but effectively nullified.</p>
<p>The CIA program should probably be revived; but now that the magic tricks have been revealed to its al Qaeda audience, demystifying the EITs, HVTs know that what they have to train against is the smoke and mirrors of simulated torture, and not real torture.  So what techniques would a revived CIA interrogation program that goes beyond the Army Field Manual have to entail?  Whatever they come up with, we the general public should not be privy to.</p>
<p>Transcript from <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505103_162-57323734/cbs-news-nj-debate-transcript-part-1/?pageNum=8&#038;tag=contentMain;contentBody">the debate</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Major Garrett:</strong> I don&#8217;t need to tell the people on this stage that presidential politics is interactive business. And, of course, this debate is interactive as well. And we have an email question I&#8217;m happy to say, emailed into the National Journal. And it comes from Stephen Schafroth (PH) of Odell&#8217;s (PH), Oregon. And I&#8217;d like to address this question to Mr. Cain. Stephen writes, &#8220;I served on an aircraft carrier during the Vietnam War. I believe that torture is always wrong in all cases. What is your stance on torture?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Herman Cain:</strong> I believe that following the procedures that have been established by our military, I do not agree with torture, period. However, I will trust the judgment of our military leaders to determine what is torture and what is not torture. That is the critical consideration. </p>
<p><strong> Major Garrett:</strong> Mr. Cain, of course you&#8217;re familiar with the long-running debate we&#8217;ve had about whether waterboarding constitutes torture or is an enhanced interrogation tech&#8211; technique. In the last campaign, Republican nominee John McCain and Barack Obama agreed that it was torture and should not be allowed legally and that the Army Field Manual should be the methodology used to interrogate enemy combatants. Do you agree with that or do you disagree, sir?</p>
<p><strong>Herman Cain:</strong> I agree that it was an enhanced interrogation technique.</p>
<p><strong>Major Garrett: </strong>And then you would support it at present. You would return to that policy.</p>
<p><strong>Herman Cain:</strong> Yes, I would return to that policy. I don&#8217;t see it as torture. I see it as an enhanced interrogation technique.</p>
<p><strong>Major Garrett:</strong> Congressman&#8211; congresswoman Bachmann, your opinion on this question that our emailer asked.</p>
<p><strong>Michele Bachmann:</strong> If I were president, I would be willing to use waterboarding. I think it was very effective. It gained information for our country. And I&#8211; and I also would like to say that today, under Barack Obama, he is allowing the A.C.L.U. to run the C.I.A. You need to understand that today&#8211; today we&#8211; it&#8211; when we&#8211; when we interdict a terrorist on the battlefield, we have no jail for them.</p>
<p>We have nowhere to take them. We have no C.I.A. interrogations anymore. It is as though we have decided we want to lose in the War on Terror under President Obama. That&#8217;s not my strategy. My strategy will be that the United States will be victorious in the War on Terror.</p>
<p><strong>Major Garrett:</strong> Congressman Paul, my spidey sense tells me we have a debate about to get launched here. I know you have an opinion you&#8217;d like to weigh in.</p>
<p><strong>Ron Paul:</strong> Yes. Tor&#8211; torture is illegal. And&#8211; by our laws. It&#8217;s illegal by international laws.</p>
<p><strong>Major Garrett:</strong> How do you&#8211; how do you define torture, sir?</p>
<p><strong>Ron Paul:</strong> Well, waterboarding is torture. And&#8211; and many other&#8211; it&#8217;s ill&#8211; it&#8217;s illegal under international law and under our law. It&#8217;s also immoral. The&#8211; and it&#8217;s also very impractical. There&#8217;s no evidence that you really get reliable evidence. Why would you accept the position of torturing 100 people because you know one person might have information? And that&#8217;s what you do when you accept the principal of a&#8211; of&#8211; of&#8211; of torture. I think it&#8217;s&#8211; I think it&#8217;s uncivilized and prac&#8211; and has no practical advantages and is really un-American to accept on principal that we will torture people that we capture.</p>
<p><strong>Major Garrett: </strong>And that&#8217;s time, thank&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Michele Bachmann:</strong> Major&#8211; Major, I have to bring it up. I have to say&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Scott Pelley:</strong> Give&#8211; you know, let&#8217;s&#8211; let&#8217;s allow&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Michele Bachmann: </strong>I&#8211; I&#8211; I have&#8211; I have to say something on this, Major.</p>
<p><strong>Scott Pelley:</strong> &#8211;let&#8217;s&#8211; I&#8217;m sorry, Congresswoman, just a moment if you would, please.</p>
<p><strong>Michele Bachmann:</strong> I&#8211; I&#8211; I&#8211;</p>
<p>S<strong>cott Pelley: </strong>Let&#8217;s give&#8211; let&#8217;s give&#8211; Governor Huntsman an opportunity to take 30 seconds on that question.</p>
<p><strong>Jon Huntsman:</strong> Thank you. Gets a little lonely over here in Siberia.</p>
<p><strong>Rick Santorum:</strong> Tell me about it.</p>
<p><strong>Jon Huntsman: </strong>First of all, let me thank the sailor on the ship. I have two boys in the United States Navy. And all they wanna do is go on to fight, protect, and defend the great freedoms that we share in this country. This country has values. We have a name brand in the world. I&#8217;ve lived overseas four times. I&#8217;ve been an ambassador for my country three times. I&#8217;ve lived overseas and done business.</p>
<p>We diminish our standing in the world and the values that we project which include liberty, democracy, human rights, and open markets when we torture. We should not torture. Waterboarding is torture. We dilute ourselves down like a whole lot of other countries. And we lose that ability to project values that a lot of people in corners of this world are still relying on the United States to stand up for them.
</p></blockquote>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/americas/united-states/111113/republican-debate">Romney camp</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>After the debate, Romney aides told CNN that he does not believe waterboarding is torture, but that he &#8220;is not going to spell out what he would employ.&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>Some might say Romney is sidestepping the question; or that he&#8217;s not saying what he&#8217;d employ because he doesn&#8217;t know.  But, honestly, it&#8217;s the smartest answer to the question I&#8217;ve heard from these GOP presidential candidates.</p>
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		<title>Obama Administration Wants To Negotiate With Mullah Omar</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well isn’t this wonderful:

<blockquote>Washington ready to negotiate with Mullah Omar</blockquote>

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<p>Well <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/8856004/Washington-ready-to-negotiate-with-Mullah-Omar.html">isn&#8217;t this</a> wonderful:</p>
<blockquote><p>Washington ready to negotiate with Mullah Omar</p></blockquote>
<p>Right on the heels of <a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/13-american-nato-service-members-killed-by-suicide-bomber-in-afghanistan/">this terrible news</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>A Taliban suicide bomber rammed a van into an armored NATO bus Saturday in Kabul, killing 13 American troops and four Afghans, U.S. and Afghan officials said, in the deadliest attack on coalition forces in more than two months.</p>
<p>The explosion, which occurred as the convoy was passing the American University, sparked a fireball and littered the street with shrapnel. Heavy black smoke poured from burning wreckage at the site.</p>
<p>The armored personnel carrier, known as a Rhino was sandwiched between of a convoy of mine-resistant military vehicles traveling on a four-lane highway frequently used by NATO forces in a southwestern section of the city.</p>
<p>NATO said 13 service members were killed, but a U.S. official confirmed they were all Americans. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have been at war with the Taliban since 2001 after they, specifically Mullah Omar, were involved in 9/11.  Either indirectly prior to the attack or in the help he gave al-Qaeda after the attack.</p>
<p>And now Obama wants to negotiate with him?</p>
<p>Wow</p>
<blockquote><p>Washington is ready to negotiate with Taliban leader Mullah Omar and now regards his involvement as crucial to the prospects for peace in Afghanistan, Hillary Clinton has said.</p>
<p>Her comments been taken as a significant shift in American policy from moves to divide the Taliban-led insurgency and isolate Mullah Omar, the man who sheltered Osama bin Laden as he plotted the September 11 attacks, to an acknowledgement of his leadership.</p>
<p>It follows the disclosure earlier this month that American officials had met leaders of the Haqqani Network, the powerful Taliban faction blamed for some of the most devastating attacks on American and Nato forces in Afghanistan, including last month&#8217;s attack on the US embassy in Kabul in which seven were killed and 19 wounded.</p>
<p>Earlier this week the faction&#8217;s commander Sirajuddin Haqqani warned Washington that only the Quetta Shura, led by Mullah Omar, could negotiate a peace deal and that his fighters would not be divided from its leadership.</p>
<p>In an appearance before the House Foreign Affairs Committee, Mrs Clinton said the United States would continue to &#8220;fight, talk and build&#8221; in Afghanistan and Pakistan to &#8220;test whether these organisations have any willingness to negotiate in good faith&#8221;.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sickening.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s obvious we are not in this to win anymore, now it&#8217;s how we can get the hell out of there the fastest and if it means we negotiate with the enemy then so be it I suppose.</p>
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