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		<title>Obama&#8217;s ego is writing checks cashed with the souls of men [Reader Post]</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrJohn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This vainglorious administration is so self-absorbed that it refuses to keep secrets if it can in any way benefit politically from them regardless of the cost. Obama is so bent on preening he seems not to have any concern at all for those who actually make the sacrifices. First Joe Biden outs SEAL Team 6 as those who participated in the Bin Laden raid and then Leon Panetta outed the doctor who helped provide intelligence for the raid. That was catastrophic for the doctor. <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/24/obamas-ego-is-writing-checks-cashed-with-the-souls-of-men-reader-post/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>This vainglorious administration is so self-absorbed that it refuses to keep secrets if it can in any way benefit politically from them regardless of the cost. Obama is so bent on preening he seems not to have any concern at all for those who actually make the sacrifices. First Joe Biden <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100086416/joe-biden-opens-his-mouth-about-us-navy-seals/">outs SEAL Team 6</a> as those who participated in the Bin Laden raid and then <a href="http://www.theblaze.com/stories/defense-secretary-panetta-says-that-pakistani-doctor-provided-key-information-for-capturing-osama-bin-laden/">Leon Panetta outed the doctor</a> who helped provide intelligence for the raid. That was catastrophic for the doctor.</p>
<p>First <a href="http://www.newkerala.com/news/2011/worldnews-180537.html#.T7z749VXI3w">he and his wife were fired</a> for engaging in a &#8220;fake&#8221; vaccination program.</p>
<blockquote><p>In a notification issued in this regard, the health department said that Afridi&#8217;s services were terminated under the Efficiency and Disciplinary (E and D) Rules for being involved in anti-state activities, the Express Tribune reports.</p>
<p>Earlier, 15 lady health workers who were part of the alleged fake vaccination campaign, were were also sacked from their jobs.</p>
<p>It was reported earlier this month that Dr Afridi was dismissed from his post, along with four LHVs.</p>
<p>Earlier, Dr. Shakeel&#8217;s wife, Imrana Ghafoor was also removed from her post. She was the principal of the Government Girls Degree College in Darra Adam Khel.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now he has been <a href="http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-50562-Dr-Shakil-Afridi-sentenced-to-30-years">jailed for 33 years for treason</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>PESHAWAR, Pakistan — A Pakistani surgeon recruited by the CIA to help find Osama bin Laden was on Wednesday sentenced to 33 years in prison for treason, officials said.</p>
<p>Shakil Afridi, who was sacked as a government doctor two months ago, was found guilty under the tribal justice system of Khyber district, part of Pakistan’s semi-autonomous tribal belt.</p>
<p>In addition to his jail sentence, he was fined 320,000 rupees ($3,500). The doctor had worked for years as a surgeon in lawless Khyber, part of the Taliban and al-Qaeda infested tribal belt.</p>
<p>Afridi was not present in the court and not given a chance to defend himself, officials said. Under the tribal system, he would not have had access to a lawyer.</p>
<p>“He has been sentenced for 33 years on treason charges and has been moved to Peshawar central jail after the verdict was announced by the local court,” said Mohammad Siddiq, spokesman for the administrative head of Khyber.</p>
<p>In January, U.S. Defence Secretary Leon Panetta confirmed Afridi had worked for U.S. intelligence by collecting DNA to verify bin Laden’s presence and expressed concern about Pakistan’s treatment of him.</p>
<p>He was arrested shortly after U.S. troops killed the al-Qaeda leader on May 2, 2011 and in October a Pakistani commission recommended that he be tried for treason.</p></blockquote>
<p>Golly, given this event who wouldn&#8217;t want to want to come to the aid of America? The left has not had word of complaint- not about this nor about the <a href="http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/22/11816421-obama-aides-gave-classified-information-on-bin-laden-raid-for-film-watchdog-says">unprecedented access to classified material</a> offered to filmmakers in the process of Obama idolatry. </p>
<p>Contrast that to the phony kerfuffle over <a href="http://crooksandliars.com/2005/12/17/its-ok-to-leak-all-over-valerie-plame">Valerie Plame</a> and the scorn wrongly heaped upon George Bush. </p>
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		<title>Soufan&#8230;Rodriguez&#8230;Carle&#8230;Crumpton</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Wordsmith</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<center><em><strong><font SIZE=4>"Mr. President, by the time we're through with these guys, they're gonna have flies walking across their eyeballs."</font></strong></em>
- Former CTC chief, Cofer Black, <em><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57433105/hank-crumpton-life-as-a-spy/">60 Minutes</a></em> last Sunday</center>



<a href="http://www.lawfareblog.com/2012/05/todays-headlines-and-commentary-190/">Lawfare Blog</a> has a roundup of some of the latest news regarding the "GWoT":


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- Former CTC chief, Cofer Black, <em><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57433105/hank-crumpton-life-as-a-spy/">60 Minutes</a></em> last Sunday</center></p>
<div id="attachment_80584" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 322px"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2007-09-04c.jpg" alt="" title="2007-09-04c" width="312" height="450" class="size-full wp-image-80584" /><p class="wp-caption-text">New, more comfortable leg shackles, used to restrain detainees are shown in a room where detainees meet their lawyers in the maximum security Camp Six at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Station in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba September 4, 2007.   REUTERS/Joe Skipper  </p></div>
<p><a href="http://www.lawfareblog.com/2012/05/todays-headlines-and-commentary-190/">Lawfare Blog</a> has a roundup of some of the latest news regarding the &#8220;GWoT&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>The New Yorker</em>’s Amy Davidson <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/05/q-a-ali-soufan.html">interviews</a> Ali Soufan, the author of <em>The Black Banners</em>, on former CIA official Jose Rodriguez. And Jane Sutton of Reuters <a href="http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/BRE84F1HG/US-USA-GUANTANAMO/">reports</a> that defense counsel for the alleged 9/11 co-conspirators have requested that Rodriguez be called to testify in the military commission case.</p>
<p>Attorney for Abu Zubaydah Joseph Margulies has this <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-margulies-guantanamo-torture-zubaydah-20120516,0,5061918.story?track=rss&#038;utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+latimes%2Fnews%2Fopinion%2Fcommentary+%28L.A.+Times+-+Commentary%29&#038;utm_content=Google+Reader">op-ed</a> in the <em>LA Times</em> urging the U.S. to charge his client with a crime. And <em>CBS News</em> <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-57435902-503543/abu-zubaydah-begs-guantanamo-prosecutors-to-charge-him/">interviewed</a> Margulies as well.</p>
<p>In a Senate Judiciary Hearing, FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III said that the FBI is investigating how details about the Al Qaeda plot that was thwarted was leaked to the Associated Press. Michael Schmidt at the <em>New York Times</em> reports. And Corey Flintoff at <em>NPR</em> <a href="http://www.npr.org/2012/05/15/152750767/why-do-terrorists-so-often-go-for-planes">attempts</a> to answer the question of why terrorists target planes, collecting responses from a number of analysts and scholars.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve been going through <em>The Black Banners</em>, <em>Courting Disaster</em>, <em>Hard Measures</em>, <em>The Interrogator</em> (by Glen Carle), John Kiriakou&#8217;s <em>The Reluctant Spy</em>, <em>The Hunt for KSM</em>, and other related material to try and make sense of the discrepancies, alternate perspectives and accounts.  So I&#8217;ve looked forward to <a href="http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/closeread/2012/05/q-a-ali-soufan.html">Ali Soufan&#8217;s interview</a> by Amy Davidson in wake of <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/04/28/making-the-hard-measures/">Rodriguez&#8217;s book</a>.  </p>
<p>Will Rodriguez answer back with a rebuttal?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/torture-causes-longterm-harm-to-more-than-just-the-initial-victims-20120517-1ytxn.html">Recent article</a> co-authored by Glenn Carle.  Unfortunately, all this opinion piece seems to do is launch into is the same broad-brushed hyperbole that sees no difference or distinction between the CTC&#8217;s EIT program and the Spanish Inquisition&#8217;s torture program.  Danielle Celermajer and Glenn Carle want to talk in excess about the subject of torture.  So&#8230;what exactly does their favorite pet peeve topic have to do with enhanced interrogation techniques?  It&#8217;s like they&#8217;re piggybacking the controversy over the CIA&#8217;s CTC program to plug Carle&#8217;s book and the tortured topic of torture.</p>
<p>On a side note, check out Hank <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304203604577394360360043858.html?mod=googlenews_wsj">Crumpton&#8217;s new book</a>, <em>The Art of Intelligence</em>: </p>
<blockquote><p>At the heart of Mr. Crumpton&#8217;s memoir, &#8220;The Art of Intelligence,&#8221; is an engrossing tale of how a seasoned CIA officer spearheaded the first campaign in America&#8217;s war on terror. Under his direction, in the fall of 2001, small teams of CIA operatives and U.S. Special Forces, together with Afghan allies, came to kill thousands of al Qaeda and Taliban combatants and to break their hold on Afghanistan in less than three months. Even though Osama bin Laden slipped away, and the Taliban eventually returned to foment a new insurgency in Afghanistan, this ground-breaking campaign was a success beyond all reasonable expectations.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/14/the-first-american-excerpt-from-henry-crumpton-s-the-art-of-intelligence.html">Daily Beast</a> has an excerpt, recounting &#8220;the full story of the first American to die in combat in Afghanistan—and how his wife responded.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth the read&#8230;and the remembrance.</p>
<p><div id="attachment_80583" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 310px"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/bankclock.jpg" alt="" title="bankclock" width="300" height="218" class="size-full wp-image-80583" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The date of the terrorist attack is frozen on a calendar covered in ash at a bank on Broadway, about a block from the World Trade Center. The bank has not reopened. (By David Karp, AP)</p></div><br />
Crumpton was interviewed <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57433105/hank-crumpton-life-as-a-spy/">on 60 Minutes</a> by Lara Logan.  In case you missed it:</p>
<p><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/18/soufan-rodriguez-carle-crumpton/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
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		<title>Al-Qaeda Infiltrator&#8217;s Cover Blown&#8230;But Where Is The Media Hysteria?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 22:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Curt</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you recall a time, a few years back, when the media wouldn’t shut up about a supposed outing of a agent? Yup, the left and the media were pissed.

I bet you could just imagine the firestorm of coverage that would result if instead of a former Secretary of State leaking a name it was our President….right? <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/16/al-qaeda-infiltrators-cover-blown-but-where-is-the-media-hysteria/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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<p>Do you recall a time, a few years back, when the media wouldn&#8217;t shut up about a supposed outing of an agent?   Yup, <a href="http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/p/valerie_plame/index.html">the left and the media were pissed</a>.  </p>
<p>I bet you could just imagine the firestorm of coverage that would result if instead of a former Secretary of State leaking a name it was our President&#8230;.right?</p>
<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/05/14/bombshell-al-qaeda-infiltrator-was-working-for-brits-not-cia-cover-blown-for-election-year-politics/">Guess not</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Just a week ago the establishment media was aflutter with news that a CIA double-agent had thwarted a new type of underwear bomb attack targeting U.S. flights in a plot devised by al-Qaeda of the Arabian Peninsula.</p>
<p>But as the week progressed, a developing bombshell story got buried under President Obama’s gay marriage announcement. Not only is the supposed CIA asset not a CIA asset at all, but the entire operation was exposed prematurely and the double-agent’s life was immediately threatened by an intelligence leak that very well may have come out of the White House for <strong><em>political gain</em></strong>.</p>
<p>As the story broke, the establishment media was more than happy to attribute the intelligence coup to the CIA and the Obama administration, describing the mole as a “CIA informant.”</p>
<p>It turns out that wasn’t true. The double-agent hadn’t been recruited and placed by the CIA, but by British intelligence, who also managed the operation. In fact, the Americans had only recently been made aware of the joint British-Saudi effort.</p>
<p>The leaks about the operation from the American side have infuriated British intelligence officials, who had hoped to continue the operation. The leaks not only scuttled the mission but put the life of the asset in jeopardy. Even CIA officials, joining their MI5 and MI6 counterparts, were describing the leaks as “despicable,” attributing them to the Obama administration.</p>
<p>As the stillborn investigation into the leaks continues (stillborn, because if the leaks are in fact traced to the White House, there will be no repercussions), the zeal with which the establishment media trumpeted the supposed CIA coup won’t likely be surpassed by the more important story of how the Obama administration attempted to score political points at the expense of one of the most important intelligence operations since 9/11.</p></blockquote>
<p>Wait, for &#8220;political gain?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wasn&#8217;t the left and the media very upset that non-spy Valerie Plame&#8217;s name was uttered by Richard Armitage for &#8220;political gain?&#8221;</p>
<p>Weren&#8217;t there hearings and trials and all that?  Or was I just imagining that?  </p>
<p>And here we had a <a href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/shashankjoshi/100157506/the-al-qaeda-underwear-bomber-and-the-cia-leaks-loose-lips-sink-spies/">Yemeni deep cover agent</a> that we may get once in a generation:</p>
<blockquote><p>One US official has noted that “this operation could have gone on for some time … when it was cut off by a leak”. Even once the agent turned up in Saudi Arabia, it was clear that his intelligence was helping to target a spate of crucial drone strikes within Yemen – including one that killed AQAP’s head of external operations, a man responsible for the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000.</p>
<p>If the group learnt of their member’s defection from the media, who knows what countermeasures they took? How did that stymie further arrests or airstrikes? AQAP’s chief bomb-maker, Ibrahim Al-Asiri, might even have escaped as a result.</p>
<p>After all, the agent was reportedly evacuated from Yemen two weeks before the appointed date for his attack. He might have remained quietly operational for that entire period, contacting his colleagues and passing on their location. This leak appears to have frustrated a painstaking and risky operation, of the sort that cannot come around very often.</p></blockquote>
<p>But the Obama administration deliberately scuttled that huge undercover operation, and put the life of a British agent in jeopardy to boot.  For what?  To boost his re-election hopes. This wasn&#8217;t some non-spy desk jockey at the CIA.  This was someone who had infiltrated al-Qaeda for god&#8217;s sake!  </p>
<p>But the MSM and the left are ignoring it.</p>
<p>At least one Democrat lawmaker isn&#8217;t</p>
<p>Senator Diane Fienstein: </p>
<blockquote><p>“AQAP is the number-one threat to our country. &#8230; The leak really did endanger sources and methods, and the leak, I think, really has to be prosecuted.”</p></blockquote>
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<p>Congressman Peter King:</p>
<blockquote><p>“This was more secret than any operation I’m familiar with &#8212; even more classified than bin Laden. &#8230; That’s why I’m saying the FBI should do a full and complete investigation, because this really is criminal in the literal sense of the word to leak out this type of sensitive, classified information on really almost unparalleled penetration of the enemy.”</p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2012/05/leak-of-bomb-plot-was-chestthumping-123297.html">Congressman Mike Rogers</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“This has been a damaging leak. We shouldn’t underestimate what really happened here. When you jeopardize our foreign-service liaison partners, any of them that may or may not have been involved, or you jeopardize the conclusion of wrapping up all of the people involved, that’s dangerous to our national security.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Paging Patrick Fitzgerald&#8230;.paging Patrick Fitzgerald</p>
<p><em>Exit thought</em>&#8230;.ya think <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2010/12/05/wapo-sean-penn-movie-fair-game-full-of-lies/">they will make a movie</a> about this?</p>
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		<title>Bush &amp; Co. Tried by a Toothless Kangaroo &#8220;Court of Conscience&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote>THE Kuala Lumpur Tribunal on War Crimes sat for five days in the courtroom at the Al-Bukhary Foundation to listen to charges against George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzalez, David Addington, William Haynes II, Jay Byber and John Choon Yoo of the United States for the torture of detainees held in the Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo detention camps.</blockquote> <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/16/bush-co-tried-by-a-toothless-kangaroo-court-of-conscience/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
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Just <a href="http://www.nst.com.my/opinion/columnist/what-a-toothless-tribunal-can-do-1.84344">what planet are these kangaroos</a> from:</p>
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<blockquote><p>THE Kuala Lumpur Tribunal on War Crimes sat for five days in the courtroom at the Al-Bukhary Foundation to listen to charges against George W. Bush, Richard B. Cheney, Donald H. Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzalez, David Addington, William Haynes II, Jay Byber and John Choon Yoo of the United States for the torture of detainees held in the Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo detention camps.</p>
<p>Many would ask of what use is this hearing by a toothless tribunal.</p>
<p>The answer is that the international community has failed in the proper implementation of international laws to which all countries have officially subscribed. Worse still, the laws are applied only against weak countries and their leaders who are judged and punished.</p>
<p><center>~~~</center></p>
<p>The prosecution team of the Kuala Lumpur Tribunal cited the Geneva Convention on torture 1949, the Convention against Torture 1984, Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the United Nations Charter, the US Constitution itself and the rules of conduct of the US military to prove that the treatment of the prisoners constituted torture as understood and accepted by international laws.</p>
<p>The acts were cruel, inhuman and degrading. The accused  were proven to have authorised, connived in the commission of acts of torture and cruel, degrading and inhuman acts against victims in violation of international laws, treaties and conventions.</p>
<p>The prosecution also gave details of the action by the accused, through their memos, approvals and directives for the torture of the prisoners.</p>
<p>Former president George W. Bush declared that al-Qaeda was not a party to the conventions or agreements and was, therefore, not protected by them. Further, it was argued that should these prisoners capture American personnel, they would treat their captives in the same way.</p>
<p>The defence in mitigation said that the situation after the 9/11 attacks on the Twin Towers rendered existing conventions, treaties and laws invalid. The accused were entitled to act in contravention of all laws, treaties and conventions.</p>
<p>After four days of hearings, the tribunal adjourned to consider the verdict. On the fifth day, that is, 24 hours after the hearings ended, the tribunal gave a 19-page written judgment, finding that the prosecution had established beyond reasonable doubt that the accused  had “engaged in a web of instructions, memos, directives, legal advice and action that established a common plan and purpose, joint enterprise and/or conspiracy to commit the crimes of torture and war crimes, including and not limited to a common plan and purpose to commit the following crimes in relation to the “war on terror” that was launched by the US and others in Afghanistan and Iraq:</p>
<p><strong>TORTURE</strong>;</p>
<p><strong>CREATING</strong>,  authorising and implementing a regime of cruel, inhumane and degrading treatments;</p>
<p><strong>VIOLATING</strong>,   customary international law;</p>
<p><strong>VIOLATING</strong>,  the Conventions against Torture 1984;<br />
<strong><br />
VIOLATING</strong>,   the Geneva Convention III and IV 1949;</p>
<p><strong>VIOLATING</strong>,   the common article III, the Geneva Convention of 1949; and</p>
<p><strong>VIOLATING</strong>,   the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and the United Nations Charter.“</p>
<p>Yes, we cannot enforce the decisions of the Kuala Lumpur tribunal. But the world must know through the hearings that the leaders of a country that frequently takes the high ground to lecture the world on human rights, the rule of law, etc are no better, but are worse than the many leaders and countries they condemned as not adhering to acceptable behaviour, practice and respect for the norms of modern civilisation.</p>
<p>Malaysia had the Internal Security Act. Malaysia did detain people without trial. But it should be noted that there is a law providing for this. The US government of former president Bush detained people before there was any law providing for such detentions.</p>
<p>Malaysia never sanctions torture. Certainly, the Malaysian government never spelt out the kind of torture that could be inflicted on the prisoners. But the US leaders knowingly sanction torture and describe the kind of torture to be carried out, even as they condemn others of being oppressive against their own people.</p>
<p>It is a pity that not many people attended the hearings. They would be horrified at what the leaders of the foremost democracy in the world have sanctioned and are guilty of.</p>
<p>That in this day and age, there are still leaders of governments who break laws and legalise behaviour incompatible with modern civilisation is mind chilling. That this country is the greatest military power in the world is truly frightening.</p>
<p><center>~~~</center></p>
<p>The Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal is a court of conscience. It may not have the power to have its findings implemented. But there can be no doubt that without the hearing before the tribunal, the crimes of the leaders of powerful countries will never be exposed to the world.</p>
<p>The findings of the court will be communicated to all governments, will be broadcast to the whole world through the Internet, and via international non-governmental organisations.</p>
<p>The people of the US are well known for their insularity. They know little about the world beyond their borders. They believe that they are always right.</p>
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<p>Recall as well that former president Bush <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/law/2011/feb/06/george-bush-trip-to-switzerland">cancelled his trip to Switzerland</a> last year due to threats from human rights groups.  In 2009, Spanish prosecutors sought to <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/04/13/the-bush-six-to-be-indicted.html">indict &#8220;the Bush Six&#8221;</a>.  In 2008, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/vincent-bugliosi/the-prosecution-of-george_b_102427.html">Vincent Bugliosi came out</a> with a book, detailing a legal framework for how he&#8217;d go about prosecuting George W. Bush.  In 2006, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/01/AR2006090100858.html">filmmakers fantasized about</a> the assassination of President Bush.</p>
<p>At least there&#8217;s some level of <a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/bush-cheney-rumsfeld-war-criminals-verdict-enforcement-phase-begins">consistency here in their condemnation</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>“Right now Guantanamo is still open, people are still being held there and are still being tortured there.”</p>
<p>In response to questions about the difference between the Bush and Obama Administrations, he added: “If President Bush was the President of extra-judicial torture then US President Barak Obama is the President of extra judicial killing through drone strikes. Our work has only just begun.”</p>
<p>After the guilty verdict reached by five senior judges was delivered, Mohamad said: “Powerful countries are getting away with murder.”</p>
<p>One of the most typically heard human rights-related comments about the Tribunal&#8217;s recent success in the post 9/11 reign of terror leads the comments on Press TV&#8217;s breaking news coverage of this event: &#8220;Obama and his cohorts need also to be tried for crimes against humanity.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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- Air Force Captain Michael Schwartz, military counsel for the defence of Walid bin Attash</center>

During the arraignment hearings, this comment was drowned out by white noise when the court security officer thought classified information might be mentioned.  However, upon review, The Pentagon office in charge of the <a href="http://www.mc.mil/NEWSMEDIARESOURCES/PressBriefings.aspx">military commission</a> tribunals decided <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/10/us-usa-guantanamo-idUSBRE84901O20120510">nothing compromising was revealed and released a transcript on Wednesday</a>.

Schwartz' "<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKVYcPJbyAM">big boy pants</a>" was a snide reference to Jose Rodriguez (who proudly linked it onto his book's Facebook wall) and his <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/04/28/making-the-hard-measures/">60 Minutes interview with Lesley Stahl</a> in which Rodriguez <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57423533/hard-measures-ex-cia-head-defends-post-9-11-tactics/?pageNum=3&#038;tag=contentMain;contentBody">said</a>,


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- Air Force Captain Michael Schwartz, military counsel for the defense of Walid bin Attash</center></p>
<p>During the arraignment hearings, this comment was drowned out by white noise when the court security officer thought classified information might be mentioned.  However, upon review, The Pentagon office in charge of the <a href="http://www.mc.mil/NEWSMEDIARESOURCES/PressBriefings.aspx">military commission</a> tribunals decided <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/10/us-usa-guantanamo-idUSBRE84901O20120510">nothing compromising was revealed and released a transcript on Wednesday</a>.</p>
<p>Schwartz&#8217; &#8220;<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKVYcPJbyAM">big boy pants</a>&#8221; was a snide reference to Jose Rodriguez (who proudly linked it onto his book&#8217;s Facebook wall) and his <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/04/28/making-the-hard-measures/">60 Minutes interview with Lesley Stahl</a> in which Rodriguez <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-57423533/hard-measures-ex-cia-head-defends-post-9-11-tactics/?pageNum=3&#038;tag=contentMain;contentBody">said</a>,</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Jose Rodriguez:</strong> We needed to get everybody in government to put their big boy pants on and provide the authorities that we needed.</p>
<p><strong>Lesley Stahl:</strong> Their big boy pants on&#8211;</p>
<p><strong>Jose Rodriguez:</strong> Big boy pants. Let me tell you, I had had a lot of experience in the agency where we had been left to hold the bag. And I was not about to let that happen for the people that work for me.</p>
<p><strong>Lesley Stahl:</strong> There wasn&#8217;t gonna be any deniability on this one?</p>
<p><strong>Jose Rodriguez:</strong> There was not gonna be any deniability. And I tell you something. In August of 2002, I felt I had all the authorities that I needed, all the approvals that I needed. The atmosphere in the country was different. Everybody wanted us to save American lives.</p></blockquote>
<p>I believe that the mention of torture and the apparent religious observations are <a href="http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/attorney-in-hijab-defends-call-for-other-women-at-911-hearing-to-wear-appropriate-clothing/">merely ploys</a>.</p>
<p>Debra Saunders <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2012/05/09/ED9T1OF09F.DTL">alludes to</a> the following passage on page 82-83 of <em><a href="http://hardmeasures.us/index.html">Hard Measures</a></em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Also found at the site was a spare prosthetic leg belonging to AQ operative Walid bin Attash.  Sadly, bin Attash wasn&#8217;t connected to it at the time.  Some of our people discovered that bin Attash had frequented online dating websites and described himself as someone who &#8220;Loves to travel- sometimes at a moment&#8217;s notice.&#8221;  It took us six more months, but finally we captured him in Karachi in April 2003 and put a serious dent in his social life.</p></blockquote>
<p>Debra Saunders <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/05/09/ED9T1OF09F.DTL#ixzz1uTyjwusA">writes</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>On Saturday, Attash was one of five defendants charged with 2,976 counts of murder for their role in the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It would seem that Attash has grown very devout at Guantanamo Bay. His civilian attorney Cheryl Bormann wore a hijab and <em>abaya</em> at the military pre-trial hearing. She even suggested that female prosecutors dress in more &#8220;appropriate&#8221; fashion in deference to the defendants&#8217; &#8220;fear of committing a sin under their faith.&#8221; According to news reports, distaff prosecutors wore military uniforms with knee-length skirts.</p>
<p>Is the Attash in your book the same guy whose attorney feels she must cover her entire body? I asked Rodriguez. Yes, he answered. &#8220;These people are pretty hypocritical; one thing is their religious beliefs, the other thing is what they do.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m sure a number of FA readers will disagree with me here, but al Qaeda theology is not the same religion as the Islam practiced by 1.5 billion.  And a number of al Qaeda fighters aren&#8217;t even particularly pious, let alone religiously observant, except when it serves their agenda and interest to be so.  The allure of violent jihad attracts a certain kind of personality; and some of those involved in the business of jihadism merely are in it for the adventurism of violence and not religion.  Islam is and also isn&#8217;t the problem.  </p>
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While Bormann may try to shame female prosecutors to take the veil, Rodriguez found that KSM preferred dealing with female CIA officers who wore work attire. At the end of one debriefing, Rodriguez writes, KSM called a female officer back and said, &#8220;There&#8217;s something else you should know.&#8221; KSM then described how &#8220;he had personally decapitated Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl in 2002.&#8221; KSM was not remorseful.</p></blockquote>
<p>At the end of the chapter on KSM in Rodriguez&#8217;s book, is this account (the most detailed one I&#8217;ve read) of where he threatens to murder one of his CIA debriefers:  </p>
<blockquote><p>One of our senior CTC officers spent some time at the black site and established what seemed to have been a good relationship with KSM, getting some very valuable information from him.  His contact with KSM came long after the &#8220;difficult period&#8221; (as the detainees called it) when EITs were employed.  When it was time for this officer to return to headquarters, he dropped by KSM&#8217;s cell to say good-bye.  Mohammed surprised him by saying:  &#8220;Have a safe trip.&#8221;  Sensing that what he had just said might be taken as a sign of humanity, KSM quickly added:  &#8220;It is not that I wish you well.  But if I ever get out of here, I want to personally be the one to kill you.&#8221;</p>
<p>-<em><br />
&#8220;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hard-Measures-Aggressive-Actions-American/dp/1451663471">Hard Measures: How Aggressive CIA Actions After 9/11 Saved American Lives</a></em>, by Jose Rodriguez with Bill Harlow, Pg 96-97</p></blockquote>
<p>Jose Rodriguez writes a piece today for CNN, covering the <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/10/opinion/rodriguez-interrogations-legal/">media carnival around the court circus</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>While the antics of these al Qaeda terrorists were certainly colorful, I would like to take a moment to focus on the performance of an entirely different group, the journalists who covered the proceedings.</p>
<p>While most reporters have been careful to write that those who were arraigned are &#8220;alleged&#8221; to have committed terrorism (an allegation Mohammed has previously gleefully accepted), they are less careful when discussing the treatment these top terrorists received at the hands of the CIA.</p>
<p><center>~~~</center></p>
<p>The biggest myth is that the detainees were &#8220;tortured.&#8221; Some of the stories coming out of Gitmo this past weekend simply state that as a fact. There is no &#8220;allegedly&#8221; attached to the allegation in these stories. About 30 out of the 100 or so detainees that the CIA held <a href="http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2008-02-06/news/0802060200_1_waterboarding-al-qaeda-al-nashiri">were subjected to some harsh treatment</a>.</p>
<p>But the Office of Legal Counsel in the Department of Justice <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/pdf/OfficeofLegalCounsel_Aug2Memo_041609.pdf">assured us in writing</a> that the treatment was specifically not torture.
</p></blockquote>
<p>From <em><a href="http://hardmeasures.us/order2.html">Hard Measures</a></em>, pg 63:</p>
<blockquote><p>Any interrogation program we developed had to be effective and legal.  Assuring ourselves of the latter proved time-consuming.  But as critically important as we felt it to be to get information that might help us thwart impending attacks, I insisted that we take no action unless and until we were assured, in writing, by the seniormost legal authorities, that we were not crossing legal red lines.  Some of my most senior leaders in CTC argued that we couldn&#8217;t afford to wait for approval from policymakers.  They felt the pressure of a possible second wave of attacks that might happen at any moment and knew that Abu Zubaydah had in his head information that could help us thwart them.  But I said, no, we will not go ahead until we know we have the backing of our political leaders and a binding legal opinion from the Department of Justice.</p></blockquote>
<p>And of course <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/04/30/holding-pelosis-feet-to-the-water/">some political leader</a>s, like they did in regards to previous statements they made on the question of Iraq and WMD including voting on AUMF, wish to rewrite history and absolve their hands, abandoning the soldiers out on the battlefield to take the heat and blame.</p>
<p>Rodriguez continues&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Many of the techniques were essentially bluffs &#8212; designed to get the attention of a detainee and perhaps scare him &#8212; but to cause no physical harm.</p>
<p>Some of the stories this weekend talked of &#8220;years&#8221; of abusive treatment these detainees endured. In fact, the enhanced interrogation techniques (EITs) that CIA used were applied at most for only 30 days. On average, it was much less.</p>
<p>Abu Zubaydah, the first detainee subjected to EITs, received them for less than three weeks. Mohammed&#8217;s period of harsh &#8212; but legal and necessary &#8212; treatment was even less.</p>
<p>The public impression, aided and abetted by the media, is that the practice of waterboarding was rampant.</p>
<p>In fact, only three detainees: Mohammed, Zubaydah and one other were ever waterboarded, the last one more than nine years ago. Many of the stories this weekend repeated the assertion that Mohammed was waterboarded 183 times. But 183 is a count of the number of pours of water from a plastic water bottle. Mohammed told the International Committee of the Red Cross in 2007 that <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/042809_redcross.pdf">he had been waterboarded five times</a>.</p>
<p>If his story has now changed, it is only to match the media narrative.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the end, it wasn&#8217;t even waterboarding that did him in.  <a href="http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/how_we_broke_ksm_MHehNYZZqbFjjQ2CFs2DjL?utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_content=Local">It was sleep deprivation</a>.</p>
<p>(Senator Bill Nelson, btw, <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/post/cia-denied-sen-bill-nelson-his-right-to-be-waterboarded/2012/05/09/gIQA8ifQDU_blog.html">asked to be waterboarded and was denied</a>).</p>
<p>Ali Soufan&#8217;s Black Banners is a very good read, with detailed accounts of his experience in investigating the bombing of the USS Cole in 2000 and his interrogation of HVDs, including Abu Zubaydah.  He writes a very persuasive argument, speaking from a position of authority and not just from expertise in his field (I mention this because I&#8217;ve seen interrogators and former SERE instructors criticize the CIA program, only to succeed in revealing their ignorance of the actual program in so doing).  </p>
<p>When I picked up Rodriguez&#8217; book on the day of release (April 30th), upon first glance it seemed less impressive than Soufan&#8217;s.  The latter is in smaller print and lots of pages; the former had larger printing and less pages (neither has any appendices, notes, or index at the end; although <em>Black Banners</em> does list some sources cited).  My fear became that it might be a partisan read rather than a serious work of contribution to the ongoing debate.  But once I delved in, I was reassured by the contents.  Mr. Rodriguez writes very convincing arguments that challenges the narrative painted by Soufan&#8217;s account.  What fascinates me is trying to reconcile both accounts, because I don&#8217;t think either person is intentionally lying or deceiving; in some cases, it&#8217;s a matter of differing perspectives; in others, it will require some sleuthing on the part of the reader to reconcile dates, fill in missing pieces, and determine for himself where the truth lies (*snicker*&#8230;see what I did?  &#8220;Truth&#8221; and &#8220;lies&#8221;, side x side?&#8230;okay, nevermind).</p>
<p>There are a number of details in Rodriguez&#8217; book regarding the capture and interrogation of AZ and KSM, as well as the CIA program that I&#8217;ve not seen revealed anywhere else.  It definitely is a book that enriches the debate.</p>
<p>What is great about this book and Thiessen&#8217;s is that they directly challenge the narrative woven by the FBI and Soufan.  And they extract the hysteria, hyperbole, and distorted mystique that has surrounded the nature and purpose of the EIT program and how it was implemented briefly upon 30 of the 100 HVTs who made it into the CIA program.</p>
<p>I believe that the mention of torture at the arraignment hearings is for the most part a ploy on the part of the HVDs about to be put on trial.  </p>
<p>On a lighter note&#8230;</p>
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<p>As President Obama and his administration are constantly telling us, the horrible economy is not his fault because he inherited the “Worst recession since the Great Depression”.  One can certainly make that argument.  You just can’t get it to stick. </p>
<p>If you could however, what you’d basically be saying is that that 3 ½ years after taking office the President of the United States is essentially helpless to impact the economy.  “No, no, no!” his supporters would no doubt respond:  “That’s not what we mean! The entire economy, nay the entire world’s economic system would have collapsed if President Obama had not saved us.”  That’s simply a 2012 version of the absurd and decidedly non-empirical “Jobs created or saved” measure the administration proffered when it became obvious that their stimulus was a failure.</p>
<p>If the President is not responsible for the economy after three years in office, what are we to make of his taking credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden after just two? The financial meltdown began in 2007 and by 2009 we were officially out of the recession.  Yet key pieces of intelligence that led to the CIA eventually locating bin Laden were discovered even earlier, in 2005 and 2007.  In addition, critical to the success of the intelligence gathering process was information garnered from Khalid Shaikh Mohammed using the very “enhanced interrogation” techniques candidate Obama <a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/266580/first-person-presidency-victor-davis-hanson" target="_blank">objected to</a>.</p>
<p>As Obama seeks a second term so that he can begin to fix the economy, Vice President Biden is there to tell voters the only things they really need to know about the President’s first term:  “bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive”.  The President apparently wants to take “credit” for GM as well, despite the fact that the ill advised rescue of the UAW… er… of GM began under President Bush also.  But the bottom line is that General Motors is alive, has paid back its loans, and is profitable.   Alive, like so many things with this administration, is a relative thing.  Yes, GM did pay back its government loans, but the money used to do so came from… <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/23/how-did-gm-pay-off-its-bailout-loans/" target="_blank">other government loans</a>.   And yes, the company is currently profitable, but that is in no small part because it received <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704462704575590642149103202.html" target="_blank">$45 billion in special tax benefits</a> not typically available to companies emerging from bankruptcy. (I’d venture to guess that even the hapless Solyndra might eke out a “profit” if given tens of billions in loans and a $45 billion write off.)  The lesson for America from GM and the administration is that it’s OK if a company doesn’t pay taxes so long as its union members get paid. </p>
<p>As we look forward to an exciting run up to the November election, the question is, how is it that a President seeking a second four year term isn’t responsible for the economy 3 ½ years after taking office, but somehow is supposed to be given credit for killing bin Laden a year earlier? Has the Presidency been reduced to a cafeteria plan where the man sitting in the Oval Office gets to pick and choose the issues for which he wants to be held responsible? Does the fact that he takes credit for something mean that we have to agree with his assessment?  What about the things he demurs to take credit for?  Are we forced to blame them on President Bush or can we pick any scapegoat?</p>
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<p>Harry Truman famously had a sign that sat at the edge of his desk in the Oval Office that read “<em><strong>The Buck Stops Here</strong></em>”, in reference to which he once told Naval War College audience: “The President&#8211;whoever he is&#8211;has to decide. He can&#8217;t pass the buck to anybody. No one else can do the deciding for him. That&#8217;s his job.”  I’m not sure what kind of a sign is sitting on Barack Obama’s desk, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it weren’t similar to that contemptuous sign you find posted on desks and doors of bureaucrats all across the country:  “A lack of planning on your part doesn’t constitute an emergency on my part.”  Only in President Obama’s case it reads: “<em><strong>A lack of economic opportunity on your part doesn’t constitute failure on my part</strong></em>.”</p>
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		<title>Another One Bites the Dust&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<center><strong><em><font SIZE=4>"We don't capture anyone anymore Lesley...the default option of this administration has been to kill all prisoners. Take no prisoners," he told Stahl. "The drones. How could it be more ethical to kill people rather than capture them?"</font></em></strong>
-<a href="http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/ex-cia_chief_jose_rodriguez_de.html">Jose Rodriguez</a>, ex-CIA chief and author of <em><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/04/28/making-the-hard-measures/">Hard Measures</a></em></center>


While arguments are being made regarding the value of <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2010/02/17/killing-vs-capturinginterrogating-terrorists/">kills over capture</a>...there's also something satisfying about "swifter" forms of justice that do not drag out for years and years at taxpayers' expense, along with <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/05/inside-the-khalid-sheik-mohammed-hearing-circus.html">making</a> a <a href="http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/attorney-in-hijab-defends-call-for-other-women-at-911-hearing-to-wear-appropriate-clothing/">mockery</a> of our justice <a href="http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/will-military-commissions-survive-ksm/">system</a>.

After <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2010/10/12/10yrs-later-the-uss-cole/">almost</a> 12 years since the bombing of the <em>USS Cole</em>, Fahd al Quso has finally <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/05/uss_cole_bomber_kill.php">breathed his last</a>:


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><center><strong><em><font SIZE=4>&#8220;We don&#8217;t capture anyone anymore Lesley&#8230;the default option of this administration has been to kill all prisoners. Take no prisoners,&#8221; he told Stahl. &#8220;The drones. How could it be more ethical to kill people rather than capture them?&#8221;</font></em></strong><br />
-<a href="http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2012/04/ex-cia_chief_jose_rodriguez_de.html">Jose Rodriguez</a>, ex-CIA chief and author of <em><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/04/28/making-the-hard-measures/">Hard Measures</a></em></center></p>
<p>While arguments are being made regarding the value of <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2010/02/17/killing-vs-capturinginterrogating-terrorists/">kills over capture</a>&#8230;there&#8217;s also something satisfying about &#8220;swifter&#8221; forms of justice that do not drag out for years and years at taxpayers&#8217; expense, along with <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/05/05/inside-the-khalid-sheik-mohammed-hearing-circus.html">making</a> a <a href="http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/attorney-in-hijab-defends-call-for-other-women-at-911-hearing-to-wear-appropriate-clothing/">mockery</a> of our justice <a href="http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/will-military-commissions-survive-ksm/">system</a>.</p>
<p>After <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2010/10/12/10yrs-later-the-uss-cole/">almost</a> 12 years since the bombing of the <em>USS Cole</em>, Fahd al Quso has finally <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2012/05/uss_cole_bomber_kill.php">breathed his last</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Quso was traveling in a car with at least two other AQAP operatives when the unmanned Predators or Reapers fired missiles at his car, an intelligence official told <em>The Long War Journal</em>. Three AQAP operatives are believed to have been killed in the strike, which occurred at nighttime.</p>
<p>Quso has been sheltered by the Awlaki tribe, the same tribe that sheltered US cleric and AQAP ideologue and operational commander Anwar al Awlaki, who was killed in a US drone strike in September 2011.</p>
<p>The wanted AQAP leader has been the target of at least one other US airstrike, in July 2011. A convoy transporting Quso in Abyan province was hit by US aircraft, <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2011/07/uss_cole_bomber_reported_to_ha.php">killing eight AQAP fighters</a>. Quso survived the strike.</p>
<p>Previously, Quso was <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/10/al_qaeda_leader_link.php">rumored to have been killed</a> in a US Predator airstrike in Pakistan in September 2010. In October 2010, US intelligence officials warned The Long War Journal that the US had <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/10/al_qaeda_leader_link.php">been unable to confirm Quso&#8217;s death</a>. Al Qaeda did not release a martyrdom statement announcing Quso&#8217;s death.</p>
<p>On Dec. 7, 2010, the US State Department <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/12/us_adds_aqap_operati.php">added Quso to the list of specially designed global terrorists</a>, and the chief of State&#8217;s Terrorist Designations Unit told The Long War Journal that the US did not believe reports that Quso had been killed. Nine days later, Quso was <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2010/12/aqap_operative_fahd.php">interviewed by <em>Al Sharq al Awsat</em></a> and expressed surprise that people thought he had been killed in Pakistan.</p>
<p>Quso is considered to be a senior AQAP leader. According to the State Dept.&#8217;s designation in December 2010, he leads an al Qaeda cell in Yemen, and &#8220;is connected to other designated AQAP senior leaders, including Anwar al Awlaki [a top ideologue and propagandist], Nasir al Wuhayshi [AQAP's leader], and Said Ali al Shihri [AQAP's deputy leader].&#8221; In May 2010, Quso appeared in an AQAP propaganda video and threatened to attack the US and its interests abroad, including embassies and warships.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/terrorists/teralquso.htm">Quso is wanted by the FBI</a> for his role in the October 2000 bombing of the USS Cole in the port of Aden, Yemen. The suicide attack on the warship killed 17 US sailors. Quso is also known to have provided funds to a key planner of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks on the US. Quso was detained by Yemeni security forces after the Sept. 11 attacks, but escaped from prison in 2003. He was later recaptured in 2004, but released again by the Yemeni government in 2007, and quickly rejoined al Qaeda in Yemen.</p>
<p>Additionally, Quso has been identified as one of the AQAP operatives <a href="http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2011/03/fahd_al_quso_aided_in_detroit.php">involved in the failed airline bombing attack</a> over Detroit on Christmas Day, 2009.</p></blockquote>
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<p>It was only just last month that President Obama approved an expansion of <a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2012/apr/30/world/la-fg-brennan-drones-20120501">signature drone strikes</a>, especially <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/white-house-approves-broader-yemen-drone-campaign/2012/04/25/gIQA82U6hT_story.html">in regards to Yemen</a>.</p>
<p>And <a href="http://www.chinapost.com.tw/commentary/the-china-post/special-to-the-china-post/2012/05/07/340276/Drone-strikes.htm">seeing as how</a> much of the <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/drones-yemen_b_1458668.html">progressive</a> <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/101725581">base</a> <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/expanding-cia-drone-strikes-will-likely-mean-more-dead-innocents/256106/">isn&#8217;t happy</a> with it, he must be doing something right, after all.</p>
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		<title>Yoo Padilla got served!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jose Padilla's case <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2008/01/17/john-yoo-on-the-groundless-padilla-lawsuit/">against John Yoo</a> (one of the authors of the OLC "<a href="http://floppingaces.net/2010/02/26/how-not-to-torture-memo-lawyers-cleared-of-professional-misconduct/">How not to torture</a>" memos) was dismissed by a federal appeals court today: <blockquote>The ruling “confirms that this litigation has been baseless from the outset,” said Miguel Estrada, Yoo’s attorney. “For several years, Padilla and his attorneys have been harassing the government officials he believes to have been responsible for his detention, and ultimately, conviction, as a terrorist. He has now lost before two separate courts of appeals, and will need to find a new hobby for his remaining time in prison.” </blockquote>

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<p>I&#8217;d <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2012%2F05%2F02%2FBAL71OCCE8.DTL">count this</a> as another win for the good guys:</p>
<blockquote><p>A federal appeals court ordered dismissal Wednesday of a prisoner&#8217;s torture suit against John Yoo, the UC Berkeley law professor who approved waterboarding and other brutal interrogation techniques as a Justice Department lawyer under President George W. Bush.</p>
<p>Jose Padilla, a U.S. citizen now imprisoned for conspiring to aid Islamic extremist groups, accused Yoo of personally approving his detention and brutal treatment while confined in a Navy brig without charges for nearly four years.</p>
<p>While in the brig, Padilla said, he was shackled in stress positions, deprived of sleep, kept alternately in darkness and blinding light for lengthy periods, and threatened with death.</p>
<p>Both the Bush and the Obama administrations argued for dismissal of the suit. But a federal judge ruled in 2009 that the case could proceed, saying government lawyers could be held legally responsible for the &#8220;foreseeable consequences of their acts.&#8221;</p>
<p>On Wednesday, however, the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said that even if Yoo was responsible for the violating Padilla&#8217;s rights, the rights of a so-called enemy combatant like Padilla were not &#8220;clearly established&#8221; when Yoo gave his legal advice in 2001-03. Government officials can be held personally liable for violating individual rights only when those rights are clearly established.</p>
<p>Although torture of U.S. citizens was clearly illegal, it wasn&#8217;t clear at the time that &#8220;the specific interrogation techniques allegedly employed against Padilla, however appalling, necessarily amounted to torture,&#8221; said Judge Raymond Fisher in the 3-0 ruling.</p>
<p>He also said the Supreme Court did not rule until 2004 that prisoners held as enemy combatants had the right to be free from arbitrary detention and inhumane treatment.</p>
<p>Yoo&#8217;s lawyer, Miguel Estrada, said the ruling vindicates his client.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Ninth Circuit&#8217;s decision confirms that this litigation has been baseless from the outset,&#8221; Estrada said. He said Padilla and his lawyers had been &#8220;harassing&#8221; government officials with years of litigation, and that Padilla &#8220;will need to find a new hobby for his remaining time in prison.&#8221;</p>
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<p>The case is <a href="http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2012/05/02/09-16478.pdf">Padilla v. Yoo, 09-16478</a>, 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (San Francisco). The lower-court case is <a href="http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/files/padilla-yoo.pdf">Padilla v. Yoo, 08-00035</a>, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California (San Francisco). </p>
<p><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2007/08/18/the-jose-padilla-conviction/">The real criminal in all of this</a> is terrorist, <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2006/04/03/supreme-court-rejects-padilla/">Jose Padilla</a>.</p>
<p>The knuckleheads at that bastion of human rights, diversity of opinion, and free speech-Berkeley- aren&#8217;t going to be thrilled&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/02/yoo-padilla-got-served/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
<p>&#8230;think the harassments by the morally-confused will stop?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time I listen to Barack Obama describe how he repelled down a rope from a stealth helicopter on a dark Pakistani night and took down Osama Bin Laden I am reminded of the movie “The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.”

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<p>Every time I listen to Barack Obama describe how he repelled down a rope from a stealth helicopter on a dark Pakistani night and took down Osama Bin Laden I am reminded of the movie &#8220;The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seldom has a story been more dishonestly spun than the one surrounding the death of Osama Bin Laden. </p>
<p>Barack Obama is celebrating the deathday of Obama Bin Laden with a party from himself. I caught a post over at <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com">Weekly Standard</a> in which <a href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-smirks-again-suggests-romney-wouldnt-have-killed-bin-laden_642246.html">Dan Halper</a> notes that the smirking Obama once again suggests that Mitt Romney would not have made the decision to kill Bin Laden. Obama is quoted as saying:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I&#8217;d just recommend that everybody take a look at people&#8217;s previous statements in terms of whether they thought it was appropriate to go into Pakistan and to take out bin Laden,&#8221; Obama said, obviously taking a shot at Romney. &#8220;I assume that people meant what they said when they said it. And that&#8217;s been at least my practice. I said that I would go after bin Laden if we had a clear shot at him&#8211;and I did. If there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they would do something else, then I&#8217;d go ahead and let them explain it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>But here&#8217;s the part that caught my eye:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;I&#8217;d just recommend that everybody take a look at people&#8217;s previous statements in terms of whether they thought it was appropriate to go into Pakistan and to take out bin Laden,&#8221;</em></p>
<p>As if going into Pakistan was his decision. Or his plan.</p>
<p><strong>It wasn&#8217;t. </strong></p>
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<p>Going into Pakistan was George Bush&#8217;s decision, <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/ap-enterprise-man-hunted-osama-bin-laden-040627805.html">based on the advice of a CIA analyst named &#8220;John.&#8221;</a></p>
<blockquote><p>While he was shepherding the hunt for bin Laden, John also was pushing to expand the Predator program, the agency&#8217;s use of unmanned airplanes to launch missiles at terrorists. The CIA largely confined those strikes to targets along Pakistan&#8217;s border with Afghanistan. But in late 2007 and early 2008, John said the CIA needed to carry out those attacks deeper inside Pakistan.</p>
<p>It was a risky move. Pakistan was an important but shaky ally. John&#8217;s analysts saw an increase in the number of Westerners training in Pakistani terrorist camps. John worried that those men would soon start showing up on U.S. soil.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve got to act,&#8221; John said, a former senior intelligence official recalls. &#8220;There&#8217;s no explaining inaction.&#8221;</p>
<p>John took the analysis to then CIA Director Michael Hayden, who agreed and took the recommendation to President George W. Bush. In the last months of the Bush administration, the CIA began striking deeper inside Pakistan.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Barack Obama adopted John&#8217;s and Bush&#8217;s plan. Then he co-opted it. </p>
<p>&#8220;John&#8221; persisted in the hunt for Bin Laden for a very long time.  Then in 2007 a co-worker of John&#8217;s targeted &#8220;Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti.&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>All the while, John&#8217;s team was working the list of bin Laden leads. In 2007, a female colleague whom the AP has also agreed not to identify decided to zero in on a man known as Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, a nom de guerre. Other terrorists had identified al-Kuwaiti as an important courier for al-Qaida&#8217;s upper echelon, and she believed that finding him might help lead to bin Laden.</p>
<p>&#8220;They had their teeth clenched on this and they weren&#8217;t going to let go,&#8221; McLaughlin said of John and his team. &#8220;This was an obsession.&#8221;</p>
<p>It took three years, but in August 2010, al-Kuwaiti turned up on a National Security Agency wiretap. The female analyst, who had studied journalism at a Big Ten university, tapped out a memo for John, &#8220;Closing in on Bin Laden Courier,&#8221; saying her team believed al-Kuwaiti was somewhere on the outskirts of Islamabad.</p></blockquote>
<p>The intel used to find and kill Bin Laden came from a career CIA analyst- not from Barack Obama.</p>
<blockquote><p>
John and his team had guessed correctly, taking an intellectual risk based on incomplete information. It was a gamble that ended a decade of disappointment. Later, Champagne was uncorked back at the CIA, where those in the Counterterrorism Center who had targeted bin Laden for so long celebrated. John&#8217;s team reveled in the moment.</p></blockquote>
<p>And it has been revealed that the decision to undertake the raid was not Obama&#8217;s decision either. That belonged to <a href="http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/the-chicago-jesus-did-not-make-the-decision-to-get-bin-laden-after-all/">Admiral William McRaven</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/01/the-man-who-shot-liberty-bin-laden-reader-post/smugbarack2/" rel="attachment wp-att-80017"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/smugbarack2.jpg" alt="" width="340" height="425" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-80017" /></a></p>
<blockquote><p>    It’s been almost a year since President Obama’s leadership and foreign policy bona fides were allegedly established by the operation that killed Osama bin Laden. A campaign film narrated by Oscar-winning actor Tom Hanks tells of the president’s alleged solitary, agonizing decision.</p>
<p>    With apologies to Vice President Biden, maybe President Obama doesn’t carry quite as big a stick as Joe would lead us to believe.</p>
<p>    As reported by Big Peace, Time magazine has obtained a memo written by Leon Panetta, then-director of the Central Intelligence Agency and now-Secretary of Defense, that says “operational decision-making and control” was really in the hands of William McRaven, a three-star admiral and former Navy SEAL.</p>
<p>    “The timing, operational decision-making and control are in Adm. McRaven’s hands,” the memo says. “The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the president. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the president for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and, if he is not there, to get out.”</p>
<p>    In other words, it was McRaven’s call to pull the trigger or not on the raid.</p></blockquote>
<p>Now back to that <a href="http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/obama-no-excessive-celebration-bin-laden-death/510971">Obama assertion</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>President Obama&#8217;s campaign has highlighted a 2007 quote from Mitt Romney, who suggested that the fight against terrorism was bigger than bin Laden, and that it wasn&#8217;t important to &#8220;move heaven and earth&#8221; to catch him.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/01/the-man-who-shot-liberty-bin-laden-reader-post/barack-obama-3/" rel="attachment wp-att-80016"><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/smugbarack.jpg" alt="" width="340" height="425" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-80016" /></a></p>
<p>Curiously, back in 2009 Obama held pretty much the same position:</p>
<p><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_Killing_bin_Laden_may_not_0115.html">Obama: Killing bin Laden may not be essential</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In a late Wednesday interview with CBS News, Obama signaled a more measured approach to catching the ever-elusive bin Laden, refusing to deliver any &#8220;dead or alive&#8221; ultimatums.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think that we have to so weaken his infrastructure that, whether he is technically alive or not, he is so pinned down that he cannot function,&#8221; Obama said.</p>
<p>&#8220;My preference obviously would be to capture or kill him. But if we have so tightened the noose that he&#8217;s in a cave somewhere and can&#8217;t even communicate with his operatives, then we will meet our goal of protecting America.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s no stretch to assert that it was Barack Obama who in 2009 co-opted Romney&#8217;s 2007 position on the capture of Barack Obama.  It is completely disingenuous for Obama to suggest otherwise because he was the beneficiary of the decisions made by George Bush and &#8220;John&#8217;s&#8221; detective work. You&#8217;d never know that by listening to Obama. Contrast the <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2011/05/02/thank-george-bush-reader-post/">braggadocio</a> of Obama</p>
<blockquote><p>    “I directed Leon Pannetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority”</p>
<p>    “I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden”</p>
<p>    “I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden”</p>
<p>    “I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action and authorized an operation to get Usama bin Laden and bring him to justice”</p>
<p>    “Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad Pakistan”</p>
<p>    “I have made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam; bin Laden was not a Muslim leader” </p></blockquote>
<p>to the <a href="http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2012/04/too-cheap-a-shot.html">quiet and classy reserve of George Bush</a> describing the capture of Saddam Hussein:</p>
<blockquote><p>The success of yesterday&#8217;s mission is a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq. The operation was based on the superb work of intelligence analysts who found the dictator&#8217;s footprints in a vast country. The operation was carried out with skill and precision by a brave fighting force. Our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers in the hunt for members of the fallen regime, and in their effort to bring hope and freedom to the Iraqi people. Their work continues, and so do the risks. Today, on behalf of the nation, I thank the members of our Armed Forces and I congratulate &#8216;em.</p></blockquote>
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<p>Barack Obama did not decide to take the war into Pakistan. Obama did not decide to send drones deeper into Pakistan. Obama did not find Bin Laden. Obama did not pull the trigger on the raid. What you could bet your life on is that had the mission failed McRaven would have been thrown under the bus and Obama would have said &#8220;You know, this was not our plan, per se.&#8221; What Obama did do was take credit for it all. </p>
<p>His behavior is so offensive that he has blasted by <a href="http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/john-mccain-on-obamas-osama-victory-lap-you-know-the-thing-about-heroes-they-dont-brag-video/">John McCain</a> and the <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2137636/SEALs-slam-Obama-using-ammunition-bid-credit-bin-Laden-killing-election-campaign.html">SEALS</a>. Even Arianna Huffington has called Obama&#8217;s ad <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-57423987/arianna-huffington-presidents-bin-laden-ad-despicable/">&#8220;despicable.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>This morning on Fox News the CIA interrogator who over saw the CIA EIT program (<a href="http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/top-cia-al-qaida-interrogator-obama-pelosi-reinventing-the-truth/">and who personally briefed Nancy Pelosi</a>) said that the interrogating Abu Zubaydah gave them a rather important piece of information- that Osama Bin Laden was communicating with the outside world through one person- the courier. </p>
<p>Barack Obama has called waterboarding <a href="http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-11-13/news/30394413_1_waterboarding-torture-interrogation-technique-president-obama">torture</a> and sought to <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/21/obama-prosecution-torture-memos-bush-administration">prosecute</a> those who carried out the EIT&#8217;s all the while being the beneficiary today of the information gained from those techniques.</p>
<p>Barack Obama is full of sh*t. He is a miserable low life.</p>
<p>But we can&#8217;t leave without revisiting the only truth Ted Kennedy ever uttered:</p>
<p><a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/01/the-man-who-shot-liberty-bin-laden-reader-post/"><em>Click here to view the embedded video.</em></a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jose Rodriguez <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/01/obama-plays-the-politics-of-fear-reader-post/">challenges the Obama narrative</a> on "The Path to Osama bin Laden's Death" in a WaPo op-ed today and is also challenged by Senate Democrats involved in a 3-yr long investigation due to be released sometime in the near future.  You can read Senators Feinstein and Levin's joint statement <a href="http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=026a329b-d4c0-4ab3-9f7e-fad5671917cc">here</a>.

Rodriguez's <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-path-to-osama-bin-ladens-death-didnt-start-with-obama/2012/04/30/gIQAfFmdsT_story.html">op-ed</a>:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<!-- google_ad_section_start --><p><img src="http://floppingaces.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/CIA-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="CIA" width="150" height="150" class="aligncenter size-thumbnail wp-image-80031" />Jose Rodriguez <a href="http://floppingaces.net/2012/05/01/obama-plays-the-politics-of-fear-reader-post/">challenges the Obama narrative</a> on &#8220;The Path to Osama bin Laden&#8217;s Death&#8221; in a WaPo op-ed today and is also challenged by Senate Democrats involved in a 3-yr long investigation due to be released sometime in the near future.  You can read Senators Feinstein and Levin&#8217;s joint statement <a href="http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/files/serve?File_id=026a329b-d4c0-4ab3-9f7e-fad5671917cc">here</a>.</p>
<p>Rodriguez&#8217;s <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-path-to-osama-bin-ladens-death-didnt-start-with-obama/2012/04/30/gIQAfFmdsT_story.html">op-ed</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The truth is that getting bin Laden was the top counterterrorism objective for U.S. intelligence since well before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. This administration built on work pain­stakingly pursued for many years before Obama was elected — and without this work, Obama administration officials never would have been in a position to authorize the strike on Abbottabad, Pakistan, that resulted in bin Laden’s overdue death.</p></blockquote>
<p>Read the rest.  Rodriguez credits the Obama administration (as they pat themselves on the back this week) for bringing the U.S. blowback against al-Qaeda and bin Laden to its rightful conclusion; but reminds that the groundwork that was laid began long before President Obama entered into office.  </p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that obvious?  </p>
<p>Rodriguez <a href="http://video.foxnews.com/v/1614748585001/">on Fox &#038; Friends</a> this morning:</p>
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<p>On Hannity:</p>
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<p>I believe Rodriguez is also scheduled for the Michael Medved Show today, the Bill Bennett Show, CNN&#8217;s Situation Room on May 1, Imus in the Morning, Andrea Mitchell Reports on May 2 and Morning Joe, The O&#8217;Reilly Factor and Lou Dobbs on May 3</p>
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