“Torture” Architect Breaks His Silence

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One of the torture boogeymen– one of the architects of the CIA program- did an interview with Megyn Kelly. His perspective and that of “Beale”, really should be listened to.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTzwa9S444c[/youtube]

For 9 years, it’s been the critics who have been at liberty to shape the battle-space narrative on “torture” as it pertains to the CIA detention and interrogation program that began and ended on Bush’s watch (not Obama’s), exposed in 2005 by WaPo. And the critics continue to distort the narrative and feed into the worst imaginings and distorted perceptions of our enemies abroad as well as that of fellow Americans, here at home.

Without interviewing key officials, there’s no context in the Feinstein Majority Views Report. I’ve read online comments from low information headline news readers who do not even realize it is a lopsided, non-bipartisan committee Report. “Torture” has been thrown around out there for so long now, that it’s an accepted, unchallenged definition to many Americans (and global citizens). Yet, you know what? According to a number of recent polls, Americans still don’t care. That’s disheartening to the Kos Kiddies, who grumble most of these uncaring Americans must be church-goers.

The 524-page executive summary of the tabloid investigation reads like Democratic staffers data-mined then drew partisan observations without contextualizing. Imagine strangers going through your emails and then trying to make sense of it all without ever interviewing you about them.

The early days of the Program were chaotic. They were overwhelmed, under-staffed/trained to deal with setting up a competent detention program in the heyday of the war(s), immediately after OEF. So they were self-correcting as they went; and by Rodriguez’ account, after the initial growing pains and after August 2002, the program was functioning smoothly and managed professionally. The Report mentions the abuses, but seems to fail in noting where corrective measures and reprimands were administered:

Michael Hayden, the CIA director from 2006 to 2009, told The Sunday Times that the report was “relentlessly accusatory” and the CIA had admitted to errors in the early years of the interrogations.

“A case in point was a contractor [David Passaro] who used a flashlight to beat a detainee…it was reported immediately and he was prosecuted and convicted in North Carolina and was sentenced to [eight years] prison [in 2004].”

Similarly, the CIA had reacted swiftly when the Gul Rahman died of hypothermia. “The agency made a big mistake. “It put a young officer into a position for which we had not prepared him. The incident was immediately turned over to the Department of Justice. It has been investigated twice and each time prosecution was declined.”

Feinstein’s report concluded Rahman was not a terrorist but a victim of “mistaken identity”.

Hayden said outrage over rectal rehydration had been uninformed. “It was a medical procedure, not an interrogation technique.” Rather than using a needle or feeding through the nose, it “was considered to be the safest approach for a non-compliant detainee and so that’s why it was done”.

119 HVTDs were enrolled in the CIA Program. Of these, 26 were apparently wrongfully placed into it. Of the 119, 39 HVTs experienced some form of EIT. Of those 39, only 3 were ever given CIA swimming lessons. The last was KSM in 2003.

A number of the techniques which the CIA is being maligned for- such as sleep deprivation and isolation- are not unique to the CIA EIT menu and are part of the arsenal of techniques used by military interrogators, as per Army Field Manual, and approved of by the Geneva Conventions. Under the current PotUS who signed an executive order in his 2nd day in office that for all intents of purpose essentially said the same thing as the previous PotUS’ 2007 EO, the CIA is still allowed to use “questionable techniques”.

Holder even had trouble in 2009 in not contradicting his own self on the issue of whether or not waterboarding arises to the legal definition of “torture”.

Do not hold your breath on any cascade of prosecutions to pour out of the DoJ. After several investigations, including Holder-Durham in 2009-2012, that ship has already sailed.

CIA Fact Sheet Regarding the SSCI Study on the Former Detention and Interrogation Program

Lawfare Blog has done a good job of even-handedly covering the Majority Views, Minority Views, and CIA Rebuttal in a series of posts.

Thoughts on the SSCI Report, Part I: Introduction and Overview

Findings, Conclusions and Areas of Dispute Between the SSCI Report, the Minority and the CIA: Part 2


Findings, Conclusions and Areas of Dispute Between the SSCI Report, the Minority, and the CIA: Part Four

Findings, Conclusions and Areas of Dispute Between the SSCI Report, the Minority, and the CIA: Part Five

Here’s the latest post by one of its contributors:

The SSCI Report and Its Critics: Torturing Efficacy

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You know that the left is truly anti-harsh interrogation because they are the same people who jump with joy over the idea of cutting Cheney’s heart out and using it as a football, punching Ann Coulter in the face or raping or crapping on Sarah Palin. So, being nice, civil and gentle is imbedded in their nature.

None of these prisoners was “innocent”. They may have been in the EIT program by error, but none were not guilty of being involved in the terrorism; otherwise, they would not have been captured.

Often a prisoner is safed from life imprisonment or death row with new evidence, but it is rarely the case that they were just some innocent bystander that got fingered for the crime. No, usually they were criminals that just didn’t directly participate in the act.

If any of these terrorists accidentally got harsh treatment, well I’m all broken up about that. They shouldn’t have been terrorists.

Today the media is reporting that Hersh who broke the Mai Lai massacre is now reporting that the Pentagon has had in its possession video shot by an American of Iraqi guards ( our guys) raping young boys in front if their mothers. This apparently was done to force their fathers to surrender themselves
Hersh said the soundtrack was horrifying
Apparently some on the radical right think things like that should be forgotten/forgiven as necessary to “saving lives “

Dr James Mitchell is a blessing and we should be thanking him for what he has done for us. I guess people have forgotten what happened on 911 it wasn’t just the buildings but the people on the planes and to me that was torture. I cannot forget the people that were jumping from buildings and running as fast as they could to get away. Diane Feinstein should be ashamed of herself for putting this man in jeopardy because we didn’t live up to her standards what a joke. Thank You James Mitchell…

@John: One of the problems with biased, partisan reports it that it makes morons out of people who might not otherwise be morons. It causes them to grasp upon every partisan straw and, most often, look partisanly foolish.

In the first place, we have “reported” and, secondly, they are not “our guys” as if we directed what they may or may not have done. Had the report not been totally partisan and biased to guide fools such as yourself down a particular path (and had you bothered to read this report), you would know that whenever wrong-doing was brought to the attention of those responsible for the program, the wrong-doing (or even mistakes) was punished.

I also saw it reported that Obama murdered his gay lover. Should I run with that?

It is mildly amusing to read people dancing around the word torture, to the point of feeling the need to put it in quotes.
If what happened was so valuable and life saving, I’d think that defenders like Vice President Cheney or President George Bush would say, call it what you want, it saved American lives and I’d do it again.

After all, what’s wrong with calling a spade a spade.
I thought birthers love that.