Malaysian Air Flight 370: what you need to know

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I’ve avoided this topic, waiting for another shoe to drop. Now it has.

Malaysian Air Flight 370 has been an enigma almost right from the beginning. Large jet aircraft do not simply disappear. Not in 2014. A little voice in my head kept saying that there’s a lot more than we’re being told.

No debris field was found. Had the jet exploded high in the air, a large debris field would have been spotted, as seen following the loss of TWA flight 800. If the jet dove into the water, the debris field would have been smaller, but most definitely findable. The black boxes are designed to send signals following a crash or an explosion. It hasn’t. The 777 has redundant communications systems, which are not easy to disable.

We were told the aircraft just disappeared without a trace. Later we learned that that was not true. The Malaysian government has been the biggest pain in the ass during the time the flight has been missing.

Kuala Lumpur: Malaysian authorities said on Thursday there was no evidence that a jetliner missing for almost six days flew for hours after losing contact with air traffic controllers and continued to transmit technical data.

Those in the know knew better:

U.S. investigators suspect that Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 stayed in the air for up to four hours past the time it reached its last confirmed location, according to two people familiar with the details, raising the possibility that the plane could have flown on for hundreds of additional miles under conditions that remain murky.

The investigators believe the plane flew for a total of up to five hours, according to these people, based on analysis of signals sent by the Boeing 777’s satellite-communication link designed to automatically transmit the status of certain onboard systems to the ground.

Throughout the roughly four hours after the jet dropped from civilian radar screens, these people said, the link operated in a kind of standby mode and sought to establish contact with a satellite or satellites. These transmissions did not include data, they said, but the periodic contacts indicate to investigators that the plane was still intact and believed to be flying.

But those dopes in Kuala Lumpur denied it:

“Those reports are inaccurate,” Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein told a news conference. “As far as both Rolls-Royce and Boeing are concerned, those reports are inaccurate. The last (data) transmission from the aircraft was at 01:07 a.m.(local time) which indicated that everything was normal.”

Now the big question- is the Malaysian government that stupid or are they inept? Or worse?

It stinks. It stinks bad.

Now come some amazing revelations:

The pilot is described as a “fanatic” and there is more eyebrow raising news:

An image has emerged of the pilot of the missing Malaysia Airlines jet wearing a T-shirt with a ‘Democracy is Dead’ slogan as it has been revealed he could have hijacked the plane in an anti-government protest.

Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, a father-of-three, was said to be a ‘fanatical’ supporter of the country’s opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim – jailed for homosexuality just hours before the jet disappeared.

It has also been revealed that the pilot’s wife and three children moved out of the family home the day before the plane went missing.

It comes as FBI investigators say the disappearance of MH370 may have been ‘an act of piracy’ and the possibility that hundreds of passengers are being held at an unknown location has not been ruled out.

Officials also revealed that it is possible the aircraft could have landed and transmitted a satellite signal from the ground. If the plane was intact and had enough electrical power in reserve, it would be able to send out a radar ‘ping’.

The second we learned that officials were seeking to search the pilot’s home it was apparent something curious was ongoing, and we weren’t privy to it.

Malaysian officials are now certain that the jet was hijacked.

The jet is described as having climbed to 45,000 feet, possibly to cause the passengers and crew to lose consciousness, before plunging rapidly. The accuracy of the altitude changes is in dispute, however:

Goglia said he is very skeptical of reports the plane was flying erratically while it was being tracked by military radar, including steep ascents to very high altitudes and then sudden, rapid descents. Without a transponder signal, the ability to track planes isn’t reliable at very high altitudes or with sudden shifts in altitude, he said.

There seems little doubt that the aircraft was hijacked and given the complexity of the actions taken, it appears that it was conducted by those with specially trained skills.

TRANSPONDER

One clue is that the plane’s transponder – a signal system that identifies the plane to radar – was shut off about an hour into the flight.

In order to do that, someone in the cockpit would have to turn a knob with multiple selections to the off position while pressing down at the same time, said John Goglia, a former member of the National Transportation Safety Board. That’s something a pilot would know how to do, but it could also be learned by someone who researched the plane on the Internet, he said.

ACARS

Another clue is that part of the Boeing 777’s Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) was shut off.

The system, which has two parts, is used to send short messages via a satellite or VHF radio to the airline’s home base. The information part of the system was shut down, but not the transmission part. In most planes, the information part of the system can be shut down by hitting cockpit switches in sequence in order to get to a computer screen where an option must be selected using a keypad, said Goglia, an expert on aircraft maintenance.

That’s also something a pilot would know how to do, but that could also be discovered through research, he said.

But to turn off the other part of the ACARS, it would be necessary to go to an electronics bay beneath the cockpit. That’s something a pilot wouldn’t normally know how to do, Goglia said, and it wasn’t done in the case of the Malaysia plane. Thus, the ACARS transmitter continued to send out blips that were recorded by the Inmarsat satellite once an hour for four to five hours after the transponder was turned off. The blips don’t contain any messages or data, but the satellite can tell in a very broad way what region the blips are coming from and adjusts the angle of its antenna to be ready to receive message in case the ACARS sends them. Investigators are now trying to use data from the satellite to identify the region where the plane was when its last blip was sent.

GUIDED FLIGHT

The third indication is that that after the transponder was turned off and civilian radar lost track of the plane, Malaysian military radar was able to continue to track the plane as it turned west.

The plane was then tracked along a known flight route across the peninsula until it was several hundred miles (kilometers) offshore and beyond the range of military radar. Airliners normally fly from waypoint to waypoint where they can be seen by air traffic controllers who space them out so they don’t collide. These lanes in the sky aren’t straight lines. In order to follow that course, someone had to be guiding the plane, Goglia said.

I do not know what happened to 370 but flying and landing it without ground contact would require a really good pilot. Simulators don’t teach one how to land jumbos.

Still, we’re beginning to see a little more clearly. The pilot, Captain Zaharie Ahmad Shah, is described as a “fanatic.”

By whom? Officials of the Malaysian government?

Captian Shah was an ‘obsessive’ supporter of Ibrahim. And hours before the doomed flight left Kuala Lumpur it is understood 53-year-old Shah attended a controversial trial in which Ibrahim was jailed for five years.

Campaigners say the politician, the key challenger to Malaysia’s ruling party, was the victim of a long-running smear campaign and had faced trumped-up charges.

Police sources have confirmed that Shah was a vocal political activist – and fear that the court decision left him profoundly upset. It was against this background that, seven hours later, he took control of a Boeing 777-200 bound for Beijing and carrying 238 passengers and crew.

Shah was wearing a t-shirt that read “democracy is dead.”

That could be the tell.

Malaysia, once leaning toward democracy, has been drifting toward fundamental Islam over the last few years.

The vast majority of Indonesians are still moderate in their practice of Islam, and the fundamentalists have limited appeal. But they’re gaining traction, and there is a danger that the population can be swayed by the loudest voices, especially when they blame poverty on corrupt, secular politicians in the government. Wahid says that the moderates must initiate an open debate–which societies in Indonesia and Malaysia have thus far tended to shy away from–on what kind of Islam they want. Syed Ali Tawfik Al-Attas, head of the Institute of Islamic Understanding, Malaysia’s Islamic think tank, agrees. “The Muslim idea of tolerance means that you have mutual respect, forgiveness and magnanimity [for others],” he says. “If you ask now if those [attitudes] have weakened, the answer is yes.” The region’s moderate leaders must work harder to strengthen them, or risk seeing two anchor countries slide into extremism.

And it has continued:

Rise of strict Islam exposes tensions in Malaysia

Over the last two years, churches have been firebombed and Bibles have been seized in an ongoing row between Christians and Muslims over the use of the word ‘Allah’.

The religious minority insists that they have been using the term for centuries in the Malay language to refer to the Christian god.

But in 1986, the government banned non-Muslim from using the word ‘Allah’ in publications. This ban was not usually enforced until recently when the government began to act upon it at the behest of some Muslim groups.
In a move seen as a bid to win Malay-Muslim votes, the government argued that for non-Muslims, calling their gods ‘Allah’ would be confusing to the Muslim-majority and threaten national security.

As a result, Malay-language Bibles have been impounded by customs officials. Some Muslim activists fear that Christians are using the Bibles to convert Muslims.

Attacks on places of worship came after the High Court in Kuala Lumpur ruled in December 2009 that the word ‘Allah’ is not exclusive to Islam. The government has appealed against the decision but no hearing date has been set yet.

Use of ‘Allah’ still unresolved for Malaysia’s Christians

Christians in Malaysia have endured steady attacks on their faith during the past year. There have been taunts, such as a banner declaring “Jesus is the son of Allah” attached to railings of a church in the popular resort island of Penang. There have been threats, including petrol bombs hurled at a church, and the seizure of bibles. And there has been the hounding of Rev. Lawrence Andrew, the editor of a Catholic newspaper, who insisted his paper will continue to use the word “Allah” to name God when appropriate, despite his effigy being burnt, protests outside his church, and a charge of sedition being laid against him.

Malasia is becoming less secular and more Islamic:

Rising Islamic conservatism in Malaysia

Former premier Mahathir Mohamad believes that Islam is under siege in Malaysia. He is not alone.

With religion fast becoming the most contentious source of disputes in Malaysia, this perception has given rise to a host of conservative Islamic groups becoming more vocal.

At the root of their grievances is their belief that non-Muslims and “liberal” Muslims are attacking the dominance of Islam in Malaysia, and Malays in general.

For them, the “Allah” issue – where Christians want to use “Allah” to refer to their God – is simply the last straw.

Since the 1970s, Malaysia has had many Islamic groups which have taken conservative stances on issues relating to human rights, women’s rights and homosexuality, and in their relations with non-Muslim groups. Probably the most well known, started by a young Anwar Ibrahim in 1971, is Angkatan Belia Islam Malaysia, or Abim, which pushed for more Islamisation of public life including legal and financial systems.

Democracy is deteriorating in Malaysia:

Most democracies achieve political legitimacy from a popular perception of effective and upright governance. Malaysia’s self-described “best democracy in the world” is looking increasingly tarnished these days, following the recent election and return to power of its long-ruling Barisan National party. As President Obama plans a long awaited trip to Malaysia in April he should be aware of the toxic mix of racial politics being fomented by the Malaysian ruling party.

Despite losing the popular vote, the BN triumphed again in the country’s 2013 elections, disappointing a growing opposition that had high hopes after a strong performance in 2008. The entrenched political hierarchy, instead of being humbled by its near defeat, is attempting to strengthen its hold on the country and its institutions, ignoring the need for change. Its autocratic insistence on adhering to past practices of repression, racism, corruption and cronyism have led observers to qualify its system of government as semi, quasi or limited democracy.

In the latest World Press Freedom index, Malaysia has hit an historic low, ranking 147 out of 180 countries, reflecting the government’s increased repression of media freedoms by suspending publications that dare to criticize the Prime Minister, denying licenses to media outlets, censoring publications and restricting access to information.

The declining popularity of the Naijib Razak government is reflected in the increasing popularity of Anwar Ibrahim’s Pakatan Rakyat coalition which is calling for ending the erosion of democracy in Malaysia. The fact that Ibrahim’s party won the popular vote is an indication that the current electoral system is due for reform based on the principle of popular sovereignty, not on the basis of a selective franchise. In Malaysia all votes are not equal, with the apportionment of seats to states not based on their populations, with the result that rural votes have more weight than urban votes.

Anwar Ibrahim is a believer in democracy:

Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim was deputy prime minister of Malaysia from 1993 to 1998 and served as Malaysia’s minister of finance from 1991 to 1998. He is a well-known advocate for democracy and international dialogue. He was internationally recognized for his management of the 1997 Asian financial crisis in Malaysia and has served as Chairman of the Development Committee of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund in 1998. After numerous requests for government reform, Ibrahim was dismissed from the Malaysian government in 1998, legally tried, and jailed until international pressure resulted in his release in 2004. Since then he has lectured widely, including at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service. He is currently an advisor to the People’s Justice Party in Malaysia. He was one of the 138 Muslim signatories in October 2007 of A Common Word Between Us and You, a letter addressed to Christian leaders in an appeal for peace and cooperation between the two religions.

Ibrahim is the opposition leader in Malaysia. After multiple accusations, Ibrahim was found innocent of sodomy, a crime under Islam. In what appears bald political abuse, prosecutors repeatedly appealed the acquittal. On March 7, Ibrahim was found guilty of sodomy and sentenced to five years in prison.

Anwar, 66, is the most potent threat to Najib, whose popular support has weakened over the last two elections. If he loses the appeal, Anwar will have to give up his Parliament seat and go to jail. He would also be disqualified from contesting any elections for five years after his release.

Sodomy, even consensual, is a crime in Muslim-majority Malaysia and is punishable by up to 20 years in jail.

International human rights groups say the legal moves against Anwar are politically motivated.

Captain Shah attended the trial and then headed to the airport.

On March 8, Malaysian Air Flight 370 disappeared.

It is against this backdrop that Captain Shah’s consternation must be viewed. That is why if Shah hijacked the aircraft I would fear less for the passengers than had a radical Muslim done it. If the plane is intact, I doubt it’s in Pakistan.

And I don’t think the Malaysian government is really interested in the world learning the whole story.

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WTD
THANK YOU AGAIN,

Redteam
YOU GOT ONE
GOOD INSIGHT

two objects found in the water of AUSTRALIA,
THEY HAVE TO LOOK IF RELATED TO THE MISSING PLANE

WTD
HI
THERE ARE THOSE FOUND OBJECTS, THE OFFICIALS ARE WARNING AGAINST ALL HOPE,
THAT PLANE HAS BEEN FOUND, NOT SURE YET, THEY SAY POSSIBLE TO BELONG,
AT CLOSE TO PERTH AUSTRALIA, AIR RESOURCE ON PLACE AND OTHER COMING,THEY HAVE TO SEARH FOR SURVIVOR ? THERE IS BAD WEATHER WILL MAKE IT DIFFICULT, THERE ALSO WILL BRING A SUBMARINE, THEY STILL CAUTION PEOPLE UNTIL IT’S SURE THAT IS INDIAN OCEAN,2500 KILOMETER FROM PERTH AUSTRALIA,ONE THINK THE CARGO SHIPMENT OF LITHIUM BATTERY MIGHT HAVE CAUGHT FIRE, THIS IS ONLY A SUPOSITION, THAT THERE WAS A FIRE IN THE PLANE,
IT HAPPEN BEFORE ON ANOTHER PLANE, AND IF SO, THE FIRE IS VERY FAST BURNING IN A PLANE,
IT SEEMS THE PLANE FLEW BY ITSELF FOR A LONG TIME MORE ,
UNTIL THE FUEL RAN OUT, THEY PRESUME, 78 FEET OBJECT 2 OF THEM,,
THEY HOPE THE PASSENGERS WHERE LET OUT SOMEWHERE ON GROUND, BUT IT’S A FAR FETCH THOUGHT,
ONE SAID IT MIGHT BE A TAIL OR A WING, AND RESTRAINT IS COMPELLING AT THIS TIME,
THERE IS ALL KIND OF PLANES COMING FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD,
THE PENTAGONE HAD FOCUS THE TRAJECT OF THE PLANE AND GOT IT RIGHT ON THE POINT,
CATHERINE HERRIDGE IS EXPLAINING TWO BIG PIECES, AND THEY ARE MOVING ON THE OCEAN,,
THE SUBMARINE IS THERE,

#99:

“Obama says search for flight MH370 ‘top priority’”
“Is that a higher priority than getting the people that killed Ambassador Stevens?”

Yes. The 239 people aboard MA370 MIGHT still be alive, and the thousand some family members of those currently missing are in anguishing limbo awaiting news. Ambassador Stevens and the other murdered three are DEAD. No breathless relatives are dreading the next news release. No next conspiratorial shoe to drop in some well-choreographed ballet of Anti-American terrorism.

Making something a priority infers an actionable option, and there are a host of different, reasonable and potentially productive options that are available AND that are being pursued in the search for MA370. The only opportunity Benghazi presents at this point in time is for Republicans to harm their opponents, and the chance to damage Hillary Clinton is for them irresistible.

You have two and a half years to chew away at Hillary Clinton – there is no urgency there that warrants a “top priority” effort. The missing passengers of MA370 are another matter, as their survivability clock is ticking down.

George Wells
how can the passengers be still alive, it was also mentioned from the guest at FOX,
they haven”t eat for 14 days, it would be a miracle, yes,
does anyone know if the plane took water or not,
that would make a difference for the lives of passengers,
AND THERE WAS 3 TONS OF MANGO IN THE BAGAGE COMPARTMENT, THE CARGO.
ABUT THE REPUBLICANS THEY ARE RIGHT TO EXPOSE HILARY
AND OBAMA IN THE BENGHASI TRAGEDY OF AMERICANS LEFT
TO BE KILLED BY THEIR OWN COUNTRY, WHO ARE PROUDLY SAY, THEY DON’T LEAVE NO MAN BEHIND, YES IT MUST BE REPEATED, THIS WAS A PRIORITY OF AMERICA WHO SHOULD BE FIRST IN PRIORITY,
NOT FALLING BEHIND THE FOREIGN COUNTRY, AND SPENDING MANY MILLIONS ON OTHER, WHICH BOOST THE IMAGE OF THE LEADER BY ASSOCIATION, MORE THAN SAVING LIVES OF BRAVES AMERICANS, WHICH WAS SAID BY EXPERTS,
IT WAS VERY POSSIBLE TO BE DONE,
BUT THEY DID NOT FIND IT A PRIORITY IN ELECTION TIME,
BECAUSE, OBAMA SAID, BIN LADEN IS DEAD ,
AND ALQAEDA ARE ON THE RUN,
YOU LIKE TO PAINT THE REPUBLICANS AS BAD PEOPLE WHO JUST WANT TO HURT THE DEMOCRATS, YOU DON’T NEED TO, THEY DEMOCRATS ARE ALREADY SUNK,
I WON’T LET YOU SPIT ON THE REPUBLICANS,AS YOU DO IT, BECAUSE I KNOW THEM MORE THAN YOU,
IT TAKE ONE SPIT TO DAMAGE SOMEONE WHO IS RIGHT,
THESE LAST YEARS, WAS THE YEARS OF BLAMING THEM
ALL THE TIME, NOW WE HAVE TO EXPOSE THOSE WHO SPIT
AGAINST THE REPUBLICANS, GOPS AND TEAPARTY,
GET USE TO IT,

A little off topic but watched Whitehouse Down last night. Could there be a more left wing liberal propoganda than this POC??

@bees #106:

We know NOTHING! There are a million possibilities, and NONE of them make sense from the evidence we have.

Redteam dragged Benghazi into this simply because a lot of Republicans like to drag Benghazi into EVERYTHING.
If you want to channel redteam’s one-track-mind, be my guest, but news alert!
MA370 ISN’T ABOUT BENGHAZI!

George Wells
when you see all the energy and money spent on the tragedy,
as oppose to none energy, not a smidgon of it for those left to die,
it”s hard not to remember the difference in both tragedy,
and remembering that BENGHASI tragedy was on ONLY BRAVE AMERICANS, WHAT DIFFERENCE DID IT MADE ?
not important enough to move all unit at hand to try the outmost ,
for those braves working for AMERICA,we will recal it many time more,
AS MUCH AS THEY WANT TO PUT IT UNDER THE RUG,

WTD
HI,
MEYGAN AT FOX, said they where all dead, i was shock and not surprise of course,
but wondering what does she kow for sure,
i never heard any more on it, i’m sure it would be on all talks< but no one mentioned more of it,
even that she said they would get hundreads of thousands money from the insurence,
she did not repeat the fact they are dead< but the way she said it,
she knew as a proof, but did not mentioned the proof of certainty she SHOULD HAVE had,
LIKE ELABORATING MORE WHICH DID NOT HAPPENED,
DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT?
BYE

Another interesting thing is the lack of phone calls even though the passenger type were most likely to have some. The U.S. has been able to track cell phone calls because they require GPS to work. Most likely they were pinging the servers as well, even when in standby mode. If the cell phone is destroyed or the batteries were removed, the last location can still be marked.

This could also be a double whammy tragedy. For instance the hijacked plane was shot down and nobody is fessing up. The Soviet Union did down a passenger plane thinking it was a spy plane and this aircraft would most likely resemble a spy plane trying to evade radar. Electronic jamming of the plane is possible which would explain why the cell phones couldn’t be tracked. If the plane was shot down, the U.S. would probably mock China for it’s new defense zone. If it was shot down by India, there could be silence from everyone because of the high regional tensions between the two countries.

Gregory_Dittman
GOOD INFO, THANK YOU,
I never heard of the shot down plane no where< not in MEDIA, EITHER,
that should have raise a lot of news,
it take me back to the possibility it could be this boeing runaway plane,
which of course would have been on watch, and rightfully, because of no message exchange< the pilot might have not be in a position to communicate, willingly or not,
it"s a bit like the style of invasion that VLADIMIR PUTIN DID ALL QUICKLY LIKE A THIEF IN A HURRY,
it does tell us that with all the NSA and all the tracking we are doing,
we are not safe and we don"t know that much more, until it crash on us,
that should raise the importance of working to be ready for anytthing,
I am very happyly surprise to notice that the WORLD has sent it's best minds to help,
and they are teaching us how to get together if the catasthrophe happen, and from what we see , it's
a warming up for the countries who are less equiped for any big thing to know that we are looking up for them if they are doing their outmost to do the same for us, even minor actions go far more than we know, and we are seeing it now, so this tragedy has unified people of good will to do something
anything,
bye,

CNN’s Don Lemon is close to figuring it out, I think. A small black hole.

He’s close to figuring out that the plane was teleported up to an alien spaceship, and the passengers are all in the process of being dissected by little green men. He’s in the middle of a comprehensive scientific study with Congresswimmen Sheila Jackson Lee and the honorable Maxine Waters.

BOBDOG
HI,
if only they would have a more positive story, EVEN FUNNY IS MORE PALATEBLE,
NO SURPRISE FOR THOSE, THEIR BRAIN IS NOT FIX TO REALITY,
BYE

Gregory_Dittman
you said , Russia shot a plane who could have look like this BOEING,
NOW I JUST HEARD THAT LYBIA ALSO SHOT ON A PLANE,
THE REBELS DID,
MEYGAN did not mentioned it, i hope someone know of it,
BYE

MAYBE the plane pilots heard of one plane was shut down and diverted their flight,
so to get out of the way,
or they temselves where shot at , and cause the system to shut the comunications, FORCING THEM TO
change their direction, and could not contact their base, AND WHERE HIT HARD,
TO EVENTUALY DISABLE THE PLANE DIRECTION WHICH BECAME UNCONTROLEBLE,
THEY WHERE STRUGLING TO KEEP IT STRAIGHT,
BUT TOO LATE TOO DISABLE TO RESPOND MORE, AND COMING DOWN AT A FAST SPEED,
THE DEBRIS ARE SHOWING THE SPEED TOO FAST AND ON IMPACT BROKE APART IN THE OCEAN,
WOULD THEY HAD HAVE THE TIME TO LEAVE OUT THE PASSENGERS ON LAND?
I’M NOT SURE,

Gregory_Dittman
another thing is the wife of the pilot in charge has moved out, SHE MIGHT HAVE TRY TO CALL HIM AND THAT WOULD BE WHY HE SHUT THE COMMUNICATIONS NOT WANTING TO TALK TO HER,
this and the emprisonment of his idol political choice ,
may have distrupt that pilot ; and drived him to make mistakes, WE SEE IN THE FLUCTUATION OF THE ROUTE,
even make decisions TO SEEK AZILUM IN PAKISTAN’s COUNTRY,
HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN TO HIS LIMIT OF HARD EARNED LIFE IN A
COUNTRY HARD CORE ISLAM,
AND FROM THERE THE REST OF THE PROBLEMS ARISED, TO HAVE THE PLANE SINK IN THE OCEAN,
THE ONLY RESTRICTION, I HAVE IS HIS FRIEND WORDS THAT HE WOULD DO EVERYTHING,
HE CAN TO SAVE HIS PASSENGERS,

how would the passengers be found at this time,
in the plane i think where they died, and no sea killers would have been able to reach them,
that is a very small good thought for the family to cling to,

I WENT TO SEARCH FOR MALEYSIAN AIR PLAIN POST,
on the latest news today, they found it was gun down in UKRAINE by RUSSIA,
and i also remember reading THAT ASSAD GOVERNMENT HAD SHOOT ON A PLANE AT THE SAME TIME WHEN THE SEARCH WAS ON THE WHEREABOUT OF THAT MALEYSIAN LOST PLANE,
SO MAYBE THE PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN TWICE, ONE WITH MINOR EFFECT AND PROBABLY HIT BUT ABLE TO CONTINUE ON A shaky flight, so for RUSSIA TO BELIEVE, THEY WHERE TRYING TO ATTACK OR SUICIDE killers LANDING, due to their war,
to protect their RUSSIAN TERRORIST TRYING TO TOPPLE UKRAINE’S GOVERNMENT,
there was 295 people 15 CREWS OR MORE, in that MALEYSIAN plane,
NOW THEY SAY THE MALEYSIAN AIRSPACE HAD LOST THE CONTACT AROUND UKRAINE,
NOBODY MENTIONED IT BEFORE, WHY,
IT’S CONFUSING BY SOME WORDS YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE A DIFFERENT PLANE, IT WAS SHOT DOWN AT 33000 FEET,
THERE IS MILLES OF SCATTERED BODYS,
YES CONFUSING BECAUSE THE PLANE LEFT AMSTERDAM FOR QUALALAMPOUR,
DEFINITLY NOT THE OTHER PLANE,
there where AMERICANS ON BORD, THAT NOW PLANE CRASH

okay, what if, the first MALEYSIA PLANE WAS ALSO SHUT DOWN ?
IT LOOK LIKE A REPEAT OF THE FIRST PLANE, UNTIL WE CAN FINALIZE THE LAST FALL DOWN,
IF WE CAN,