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The democrat party is in trouble. Big trouble. Captain Barack Schettino has run the SS Partito Democratico into the rocks just off Obamacare island. It’s listing heavily, taking on water and the rats are jumping ship.

After 40 years in Congress, George Miller (D-CA) is retiring. Miller has been a Pelosi capo for much of that time. Another Pelosi confidante, Henry Waxman (D-CA), has also read the tea leaves is headed for the exit.

These are ominous signs for the democrat party. It’s not as though Republicans aren’t retiring but these are democrats in positions of real power. And they know.

This isn’t what democrats predicted. Over and over they promised Obamacare would boost their electoral aspirations, none more so than the feckless Obama sycophant known as Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

“I think actually that Democrats will be able to run on Obamacare as an advantage.”

Politico ran an article titled “Nancy Pelosi’s tough times.”

I’ve bookmarked it so when I am unhappy I can return to it for a mood lift.

For House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, the bad news keeps piling up.

On Thursday, longtime Democratic Rep. Henry Waxman, a Pelosi ally and fellow Californian, announced he would retire at the end of this Congress. That closely follows Rep. George Miller’s (D-Calif.) decision to also leave the House at the end of the year.

While Democrats should hold both seats, the departures put more districts in play. Perhaps more important, the retirement of two Pelosi friends — both of whom would be chairmen in a Democratic majority — bolsters the GOP argument that their grip on the House is solid.

National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Greg Walden (Ore.) called Waxman’s retirement a “clear indication … that the House Democrats don’t think they’re going to be wielding the gavels next time.”

The NRCC will use the Miller and Waxman retirements to raise money and lean on business groups and wealthy donors to back GOP candidates, arguing that the writing is already on the wall for Election Day and they’d better get on the winning side now.

Pelosi was even forced to deny rumors on Thursday that she too was retiring. More than a dozen Democrats called her personally to find out what was going on after a story speculated she might step down.

Be still my heart. If only.

There has been no one so consistently wrong about Obamacare as has Nancy Pelosi. Her words are now legendary.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU[/youtube]

Well, they passed it and we still don’t know all that’s in it. When asked a couple of years later about that obviously direct quote, Pelosi claimed that her words were “taken out of context.”

Pelosi said that the quote “was taken out of context” and it is most often quoted “by the far right.”

Then she said there is no bill:

We don’t even have a bill written yet. The Senate has not acted. And that really, the president really thought he was going to get a Republican vote in the Senate… You can’t say it’s in the bill, read it, ’cause there is no bill.”

Yet she had read the non-existent bill:

Also, Pelosi said “we read the bill.”

Pelosi also promised that everyone would have lower rates and better care.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqONZAN_Us0[/youtube]

She then was um, unexpectedly unable to remember saying that:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04-MwSPcdAI[/youtube]

She promised that democrats would stand tall for Obamacare

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXz0YO7FcDM[/youtube]

And she was utterly humiliated by Jonathan Stewart

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yut2jE5-aQ[/youtube]

This is the woman who had to have it passed before we could find out what’s in it- the woman who had three years to watch a failure develop knows nothing about nothing. She shoved it up our you know whats but she is not responsible for its incompetence?

She is a disgrace. She’s a partisan fool.

Obamacare is not becoming more popular- it’s becoming more and more unpopular- especially among the uninsured– and people are learning what “affordable” means.

Obamacare has become an albatross around the necks of vulnerable democrats:

President Barack Obama was barely out of the Capitol after delivering his State of the Union address Tuesday before members of his own party began distancing themselves from the president, and they’re running as fast as they can.

In an interview with CNN after the speech, Alaska Sen. Mark Begich, one of the most vulnerable Democrats up for reelection this year, took aim at Obama’s focus on using executive actions to go around Congress. ”I’ll be anxious to see what these executive orders are,” he said. “But if they go too far you’ll clearly hear push back from me. There’s no question about it.”

Begich also criticized Obama on energy, objecting to his calls to end oil and gas tax incentives and opposition to opening up more of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling. He added that he has no interest in campaigning with Obama, but is open to showing Obama why his policies are wrong.

Obama is downright radioactive:

Obama’s post-speech roadshow conspicuously excludes any state where vulnerable Democratic incumbents are up for reelection. And in Wisconsin, where Democrat Mary Burke is trying to unseat Gov. Scott Walker this fall, the candidate is avoiding Obama’s scheduled appearance on Thursday. Earlier this month, North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan avoided an appearance with Obama in her home state.

These are ominous signs for the democrat party and Obamacare faces an even worse 2014.

Bon Voyage.

UPDATE

A loyal Democratic soldier tells the truth about Obamacare

Rep. Jim Moran of Virginia rarely holds his tongue (and never his punches), but he was the loyal Democratic soldier when it was time to vote for Obamacare. His pending retirement from Congress has freed him now to finally say what he thinks about the president’s takeover of the nation’s health care.

Mr. Moran joins a group of departing Democrats conceding what everyone knows: Obamacare is a train wreck. An airliner crash. A battleship aground on the reef. Pick your metaphor. “I’m afraid that the millennials, if you will,” Mr. Moran tells Washington’s WAMU-FM radio, “are less likely to sign up. I think they feel more independent. I think they feel a little more invulnerable than prior generations . But I don’t think we’re going to get enough young people signing up to make this bill work as it was intended to, financially.”

His analysis is spot on, but that’s small consolation. “I just don’t know how we’re going to [fix] it, frankly,” says Mr. Moran. “If we had a solution, I’d be telling the president right now.” Now he tells us.

Belated it is, but Mr. Moran’s assessment is a breath of fresh air in an environment where the Obama administration talks about “surges” in enrollments and tells “success” stories that don’t bear the weight of scrutiny. Obamacare was sold to the nation on a similar foundation of lies.

UPDATE II

Democrats: Cede the House to save the Senate

With Democrats’ grasp on the Senate increasingly tenuous — and the House all but beyond reach — some top party donors and strategists are moving to do something in the midterm election as painful as it is coldblooded: Admit the House can’t be won and go all in to save the Senate.

Their calculation is uncomplicated. With only so much money to go around in an election year that is tilting the GOP’s way, Democrats need to concentrate resources on preserving the chamber they have now. Losing the Senate, they know, could doom whatever hopes Barack Obama has of salvaging the final years of his presidency.

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Ditto
i was not talking about government intervention,
but people intervention, if they want eat good fruits and vegetable,
those big truck are perfect to carry water in a special barrel,
and the farmer NEED IT NOW, AND IT’S DOABLE,
JUST GET A CONVOY FOR THIS FIRST ONE, MANY BARRELS CAN GET THE FARMER STARTING,
AND IF LATER NEEDED WE CAN DO IT ON ANOTHER CONVOY,
AND THERE ARE NO EXCUSES, PUT THE TRUCKERS TO WORK NOW,ON THAT PROJECT,
THE FARMER CAN KEEP HIS FARM HE OWN IT, NO GOVERNMENT SHOULD TAKE IT AWAY FROM HIM.

@retire05:

But I for one, love your rants and raves. You continually prove that liberalism is a mental disorder.

I do also and would never advocate that he be banned. Liberal idiocy on display for all to see, is a good thing.

Now RJW, tell us that story about Walt’s dog again….

@Ditto: I’m the one that uses “pathetic insults” and ” lame attempts to change the subject and evade the issue under discussion”? I can’t even get an acknowledgement here of the fact that Obama isn’t running for reelection in 2016 or that ACA sign ups are up or that the Tea Party has lost seats in 2012 or that austerity is not a good selling point to the overall electorate, or…… Instead, I get childish homosexual insults and responses with only a clear intent to insult or to throw the discussion off topic, a stampede of heckling trolls with off topic attacks. And I’m the troll? Typical rubber/glue tactics.

And I cannot get a single one of you to give a conclusive and intelligent definition of what a troll. Every single on one you abide by the same playbook. And Democrats are the sockpuppets?

The entire lot of you are indeed a funny person.

@ilovebeeswarzone: #93
When I was a truck driver, one truck load of freight cost about $3-5 per mile to deliver for a dry van. A tanker would be more expensive, because they would have to be sterilized before each fill. Handling water in cold weather would also be a problem.

@Ronald J. Ward:

And I cannot get a single one of you to give a conclusive and intelligent definition of what a troll.

I think that’s because we’re not single. I know I’m married. But while we’re talking about not answering questions, when are you gonna tell us which country is not run by the rich?

lame attempts to change the subject and evade the issue under discussion”?

Oh, so you have told us which country is not run by the rich?

I can’t even get an acknowledgement here of the fact that Obama isn’t running for reelection in 2016

We want to give you false hope that your fantasy can come true.

I get childish homosexual insults

That’s because you kept insisting you were a teabagger until we accepted it. If you don’t like the term, you could lobby for a change. Maybe get big O to sign an Executive Order to prohibit it.

Typical rubber/glue tactics.

whoops, forgot to include that in your list of Marxist terms.. will correct.

Every single on one you abide by

Would you interpret that for us? Is that your daily Liberal grammar example?

And Democrats are the sockpuppets

As you keep telling us!!!!

But then, I know you didn’t read this…..but thanks for the new material.

Smorgasbord
you know money is no problem for OBAMA,
he spend billions abroad, so this is an AMERICAN NEED,
YES THE TANKER convoy, i was looking for the word, TANKER,
NO EXCUSE, WE WANT DRIVER AND TRUCKS THAT’S ALL HELPER ON EACH TANKER.
SEND THE BILL TO OBAMA,
WTF IT’S FOR AMERICANS AND THE FARMERS NEED IT TO FEED YOU ALL,
HOW ABOUT THE WEALTHY OF THIS AMERICA GETTING TOGETHER TO GET IT DONE AND NOW,
ANY OTHER COUNTRY BUT NOT IN AMERICA TO REFUSE THE FARMER, HELL THEY WENT TO THE MOON,
HOW ABOUT GO TO CALIFORNIA TO THAT FARMER,
WITH A CONVOY OF TANKERS,
IT HAS TO BE DONE FAST, NOT ONLY HUMAN BUT ANIMALS TOO WILL SUFFER,
ANYONE LISTENING??????

@Ronald J. Ward: #94
Are you talking to yourself again? If so, you should start listening. Like a drunk, you can’t change if you don’t admit you have a problem. You have come to the right place for help. As the old saying goes, “The truth shall set you free.” We have more TRUTH than liberals know what to do with, so start slowly.

@Ronald J. Ward:

And I cannot get a single one of you

Does anyone know why RJW thinks we’re all ‘single’ ?

@Redteam:Whoops, left one out…..

Troll!!!
Social Darwinist!!!
Plutocrat!!!
Sock puppet!!!
Tea bagger!!!
Trolling sock puppet!!!
Rubber/glue tactics!!!

@ilovebeeswarzone: #102
Most farms are on roads that semis are banned on, and the smaller the truck, the more trucks that would be needed, and the more damage to the roads, plus the more drivers would be paid, since there would be more than one.

@ilovebeeswarzone: #107
It would cost the average farmer many hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, depending where the water is coming from, to feed animals and the crops.

@Ronald J. Ward:

I can’t even get an acknowledgement here of the fact that Obama isn’t running for reelection in 2016 or that ACA sign ups are up or that the Tea Party has lost seats in 2012 or that austerity is not a good selling point to the overall electorate, or……

No, Obama is not eligible to run for office of President again in 2016

Any number is greater than 0. So if only ten people signed up for the ACA, that number is greater than it was. So what? How many have lost their insurance due to the ACA? I think you will find the number who lost their health insurance is greater than the number who have gained health insurance. Just one of those inconvenient facts you choose to ignore.

Austerity

? Define austerity, RJW. That is, if you can and had it explained to you by your handlers from OFA, DailyKos or Huffington Post. BTW, overall [electorate] means over ALL [electorate]. All the electorate do not agree with your assumptions.

Instead, I get childish homosexual insults and responses with only a clear intent to insult or to throw the discussion off topic,

You mean like:

Troll!!!
Scock Puppet!!!
Social Darwinist!!!
Tea bagger!!!

Stop your whining. Man up, you pathetic example of humanity. You don’t even have the cajones to state your political philosophy. What a little sniveling weasel you are.

@retire05:

What a little sniveling weasel you are

I think you give RJW too much credit.

Smorgasbord
this is not a usual every year demand,
when did you hear a call for help from a farmer,
i am talking about this year his need of water ,
NEXT YEAR HE WILL BE OKAY, with more rainfall,
this is one shot help for now, for him, you are looking at a habit of every year,
no this is this year for this one,
and if the one who want to help are waisting time talking
they will loose precious time for the farmer to get help,
which is now his planting time,
if we try to think too far, we will lose the focus of the need which is now,
and after he get his water, there should be other talk of thinking further
this is not every year drought,

@retire05: #113

What a little sniveling weasel you are.

It took him a long time to work his way UP to that level. We should be focusing on his accomplishments, and encouraging him to do more. Let’s not dwell on the negative. We have no idea how long he has been drinking what the liberals have been giving him. This is all new to him. We don’t want him to have a relapse, and sink back down to where he was, and maybe even further. He worked so hard to get UP to the level he is now. Throw him a lifeline. He could use it.

@ilovebeeswarzone: 115
I understand what you mean now.

Smorgasbord
di we ever try to have a plane able to push a big cloud to the spot they want like a farmer needing water,
than with some equipment blow the cloud down to exactly the target<
are we there yet in science?
WOW THAT WOULD BE SO EASY FOR FARMER IN TIME OF DROUGHTS,

@Ronald J. Ward: You offer a glimpse into the ideological phenomena that seems to be hijacking relatively intelligent people, and is large reason that the country is in the poor shape it’s in.

C.S. Lewis spoke of/predicted this in The Abolition of Man.

It’s not that you don’t have a “point”, per se, it’s just that you some idea, some patch of rhetorical ground to claim (nebulous, unclear), and you defend it so thoroughly that you don’t understand you’ve destroyed the very ground because is wasn’t rooted in anything logical to begin with.

Scenario:
1.You come here and write derisive remarks about the GOP, the articles, posters, etc. — all those that disagree with a given canon you’ve chosen to accept (which you admit to by your very words — it’s not hidden or secretive). You seem to read from a list of common points brought about by liberal-leaning media outlets (the majority). Nothing original, just parroting.
2.You are accused of being a troll, because you’re not offering a reason to reject the idea postulated by the blog posts. Instead you sound like a teenager saying “Nu-UH!! Obama is awesome and YOU SUCK”.
3. You respond by calling others a “troll,” and by accusing them of reading from a conservative playbook (you accuse others of what you yourself are doing) This may be you just emulating what you see from Obama and crew — he recently told O’Reilly (don’t watch or care for O’Reilly, so take a breath) that people think there is a Benghazi coverup because Fox told people there is a coverup. Obama is a master of committing an offense and covering it up by accusing the other party that they’ve in fact done what they just saw him do.

So, in summary, you act like a troll…then try to cover it up by calling others trolls. A completely indefensible position, but you don’t seem to feel the sensation of falling…until you hit the ground, of course.

Ah, a bit of wisdom from Lewis:
“You cannot go on ‘explaining away’ for ever: you will find that you have explained explanation itself away. You cannot go on ‘seeing through’ things for ever. The whole point of seeing through something is to see something through it.”

You’re only reason for being here is that a certain part of our political scene took center stage by exploiting the hopes and fears of smart, yet underdeveloped people. Critical to their campaign is the utilization of the angry against a scapegoat. You don’t even know what you stand for, or what you’re fighting for. You only have the feeling of being “open minded” and angry, and the intense influence of so many media and entertainment outlets informing your identity…because I assume you’ve never went out there to discover/forge you’re own.

You attack, but when attacked yourself, you claim no one can argue your facts, even you admit you don’t have a clear “point”.

You are a troll, albeit a hapless and deluded one. You don’t see where the “ideals” (or lack there thereof) you embrace ultimately take both you and your community, and those who desire power and prestige bank on it. They’ve convinced you the GOP (their only real rival) is actually the exploitative perpetrator.

It’s like if I jacked someone’s wallet, and when they noticed their wallet was gone, I pointed to an innocent guy and said “HIM!! He took it!!”

That’s the logic you’re following. Criminal ignorance. You don’t even know you’re doing it (or you’re subconscious does know it, understanding that the only “arguments” you have are sitting on the piece of non-existent existential ground you try valiantly to draw your foes back to — citing a link or something vague, claiming they didn’t answer a question).

Your “questions” have been answered long ago. It just went over your head.

@ilovebeeswarzone: #118
Our military, and other countries are trying to do that, but that means the land the water is falling on could turn dry. Whenever man messes with nature, we usually mess her up.

TO ALL LIBERALS
Conservatives like we USED TO HAVE in congress do have a play book that we follow. It has three main sections to it. Please pick the ones you disagree with, since we agree with ALL OF THEM, but you condemn us for our way of thinking.

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration.html
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution.html
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights.html

@Nathan Blue: very good comments, Nathan

@Nathan Blue:

I’m afraid your entire post will fly so far over RJW’s head that he will not even see the chem trail or hear the sonic boom.

RJW is like the college student that thinks equalitarianism is freaking awesome, man, and yeah, we should help the poor have more free stuff. But then, that college student graduates, gets a job and starts paying taxes and the payments on his student loans, and he gets mugged by reality that the taxpayers he advocated having their income taken from them for the poor is now him or her, and it is his/her money that is being taken away by the IRS. RJW has yet to be mugged by reality.

People like RJW say “Yeah, that socialist plan sounds great. I vote for it.” but they never ask themselves “How will it work in the real world and not the world of unicorns and uptopias?” It is only the idea, not the practical implementation that people like RJW care about. Feelings, not logic, prevail with someone like him.

So while your post was exceptional, it falls on RJW’s mind like an egg on concrete.

@Redteam: Thanks. I’m not really into writing off anyone for any of their views, though I feel like there is an overwhelming campaign out there to do just that to people like myself: make the free electorate somewhat less “free” to voice what they feel. And even if you haven’t studied a lick of history, you have to know in your gut where that will lead: tyranny and oppression.

The fact the people like RJW feel so emboldened to mouth off from the anonymity of their computer has really helped the current liberal movement (neither liberal nor progressive, in my opinion). They feel like they are riding the wave of what’s going on, what’s “correct”, what’s hip and what’s new. It gives them zeal, but not confidence…because there’s nothing new, nothing novel in what their saying.

@retire05: Probably. I was once a self-professed liberal atheist. And while I can respect why the current fad of “liberalism” appeals to teen-20-30-40 somethings growing up in the 21st century, it’s hard not to get frustrated with the smug attitude of “I’ve got it all figured out. If you believe in God or agree with a single Conservative idea, you simply haven’t reached my awareness.” Yeah, I know. I just wish the RJW’s of the world understood there’s a little more climbing involved until you reach the top (hint: you never reach the top…at least not in this life).

But I can’t cast the first stone, because I’d be throwing it at a younger version of me.

@retire05:

not the world of unicorns and uptopias

and scockpuppets and teabaggers. Good response 05. I agree with you that Nathan wrote an excellent statement, but I also agree that RJW won’t even realize that he is the ‘subject’ of that statement.

@Nathan Blue:

because there’s nothing new, nothing novel in what their saying.

Every conservative should read the writings of Antonio Gramsci. Gramsci, unlike Marx, didn’t believe in violent revolution to overturn a government. He believed in going after the social institutions; marriage, family, education, religion, moral norms, the economy (i.e. Cloward and Piven). He felt that once those institutions were destroyed, that the populace would have to find something else to put their faith in, i.e. government. Remember the adage; those who stand for nothing will fall for anything. Gramsci understood that when the lives of people are hard, they need something to hang onto and what better to hang onto than Marxism.

How did we get where we are that creates people like RJW? Perhaps this little trash article will explain that somewhat:

http://www.salon.com/2014/02/02/why_youre_wrong_about_communism_7_huge_misconceptions_about_it_and_capitalism/

retire05
this is such good comments between you and Nathan Blue,
some went over my level, but enough to appreciate super intelligence,
I always admire more intelligence than I,
that make my brain grow also,
BYE

Nathan Blue
thank you also for the same,

@retire05: Wow! I find that article to be, how can I say it politely…a tad uniformed and overwhelmingly biased on a level that seeks to re-write both history and truth.

Lot’s of RJW’s fall for that, and that’s the problem.

@ilovebeeswarzone: Thanks to you, as well.

Smorgasbord
thank you for those gems,
I like it also,

@ilovebeeswarzone:

Thanks, Bees

@Nathan Blue:

: Wow! I find that article to be, how can I say it politely…a tad uniformed and overwhelmingly biased on a level that seeks to re-write both history and truth

Nothing surprising about the article, Nathan. It is the same tripe that is foisted on students every day of the week. Revisionist history about the deaths of millions because of Communism. All planned, and designed, by Antonio Gramsci.

See, people like RJW frequent sites like Slate, The Nation, etc., and think because they are reading something that promotes Socialism/Communism/Progressivism/Liberalism it must be true. Marx completely understood the benefits of useful idiots.

@retire05: Read all 7 05. Hilarious, would you think anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would believe that?

@ilovebeeswarzone:

Controlling the weather is not really feasible and only in very limited ways possible. Seeding clouds is an old method to attempt to induce heavily water bearing clouds to drop the rain where you want it. However it doesn’t always work the4 way it was planned. Part of the problem right now is the northern warm air thrust off the coast of California that is pushing the storm clouds north. Then these heavily cooled storm systems rush back south over the Midwest and eastern seaboard where the precipitation if falling as snow.

Unless the southern pressure zone relents, seeding the clouds will likely only cause them to drop that heavy water earlier in Canada in the form of rain or snow. Not in the Southwest where it is needed.

Oh, there has long been much discussion in the tin hat crowd of the old Nicola Tesla HAARP project and it being a secret government weather control or earthquake generating experiment. I think that most of that however is little but unsubstantiated conspiracy theory, and I wouldn’t count on HAARP as a plausible option.

@retire05:

He felt that once those institutions were destroyed, that the populace would have to find something else to put their faith in, i.e. government.

As the ancient Chinese curse goes, “may you live in interesting times”

I think it more likely that, should the “Central Planning” elite in Washington finally bring economic calamity down on the heads of Americans, “The People” will (in justifiably angry marches,) force their local and state governments to either finally reign in the power of the Federal government, or else succeed from the union. Whichever way that goes, you can count on a civil war against the Federal Government.

If Conservatives fail to stop the Chicago-Washington Elitist Machine in the 2014 elections, I think “interesting times” are indeed in store for us all. God help us.

@Ditto: #137

God help us.

That reminded me of the World War II song, “Praise The Lord, And Pass The Ammunition.” obama has about 3,000,000,000 rounds of ammo to pass around. I’m guessing that Idaho will come close to matching that amount.

Thank you, , for your reference to Gramsci.
I will admit to my futile attempts to follow the arguments of RJW on this thread. I cannot follow his sequence of thought, and I do not believe that any sequence of thought is present.
His posts read like a series of talking points, released from the White House at 5 AM each morning, which sets the standard for all the news readers in the Main Stream Media.
Now Gramsci does have a vision. His vision, like the utopian visions which preceded and followed his, apply to a non-existent group of beings. The vision of Gramsci does not apply to human beings. Utopias have marred our history ever since there has been a history. And Utopias have always been characterized by oppression of the 99% and unlimited power and wealth for the elites. Name your country and time: the same thing always happens. Socrates had no solution for “power corrups, absolute power corrupts absolutely.” The highest ethical standards and the quest for power do not coexist.
The challenge stands: name the Utopia which has made life better for all persons.

What we now have is the vision of Cloward and Pliven, who would destroy the U S and replace it with North Korea.
No, thank you.

Ditto
thank”s,
what if we only research on the northen cloud which I presume are solid ice,OR HAVE BECOME IT,
or in between ice and water, AND WOULD BE EASYER TO BE PUSH SOUTH, AS A SOLID CLOUD,
THAN THE WARMER CLOUDS? YES IT’S A LONGER PUSH BUT
MIGHT BE MORE FEASIBLE, OOPS I FORGOT AN IMPORTANT FACT, THAT IS, IT WOULD BE LOOSING THE MELTED PART ALONG THE ROAD TOWARD THE SOUTH WEST,
BUT NOT IF WE DO IT OVER WATERWAY ,TO CAPTURE THAT MELTING WATER,
FANTAZY OR POSSIBLE,? EVEN IF WE HAVE TO DO IT AT THE SPEED OF HUMANLY POSSIBLE,

Ditto
or picking up the most artic chunk of ice and transport it by plane
direct to the farmer in need,
THE DANGER IS TO BE SURE HE DOESN’T GET IT ON HIS PROPERTY OR HIS HEAD,
JUST ME TRYING TO HELP,
BEFORE YOU DISMISS THIS ONE, I NOTE OF THE AFRICAN ANIMAL LIKE AN ELEPHANT BEING LIFTED BY PLANE AND TRANSPORT IT TO ANOTHER LOCATION,
I HAVE SEEN IT DONE, SO THE WEIGHT IS NO PROBLEM,
WHAT IS?
BYE

mathman
VERY INTERESTING,
I SEE,
the only way they would succeed is if the human they want to enslave
are without a brain,
we have read of their failure by even one of the human having stood up,
to become the leader of the revolt,
and the AMERICANS ARE A SUPERIOR BREED IN BRAIN POWER,
BUT TOLERANT WHICH BALANCE THE TWO ATTRIBUTES
but if they decide to rebel, it would be quick and a sure win , as oppose to other nations who rebel without attributes to their creeds, which are still rebelling years after, with no ends to see result,
BYE

@mathman:

Socrates had no solution for “power corrups, absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

Our founding fathers had a solution to the problem: A small, Constitutionally limited government without a standing army. But that has been systematically discarded by politicians of both parties in their push for an all powerful Federal government juggernaut. With the militarization of non-defense federal agencies, a elitist plutocracy can force it’s will on all the states.

@ilovebeeswarzone:

The problem always come back to the cost being prohibitive. The only sensible solutions are:
(1) Build a water pipeline from the flood plane. (Allow the flood plane states to control how much water is diverted into the pipeline.)
(2) Use a fleet of ships to drag icebergs from the arctic region down to California. (That is the most efficient use of fuel if you need to do it by transportation.)
(3) Relocation of the farms and ranches to wetter lands. (Expensive to the farmers and ranchers and good luck selling the drought hit real estate).
(4) Downsize the population of the cities to a sustainable level. (Unfortunately that would move more of the deranged utopian dreamers into “red states”.)
(5) Wait it out until the weather patterns change and water bearing clouds are heading in the right direction, (which, doesn’t solve the problem of demand for water resources.)

Ditto
good ideas in there,
the one jumping in my face is downsize the population,
yes close the borders, AMERICA can take care of herself,
they don’T need anymore people until they have all the AMERICAN AT WORK FOR A FULL DAY, A FULL WEEK, A FULL YEAR, no other allowed to work before that,
THAT IS NUMBER ONE,
NO RELOCATION ON FARM EVER, THOSE FARMS BELONG TO FAMILY FROM MANY GENERATIONS, THEY DO NOT WANT TO RELOCATE, BUT THEY WILL SURVIVE THE DROUGHT AS OPPOSE TO THE CITIZENS WHO WILL GO WITHOUT THEIR PRODUCTS AND WILL DISERVE IT IF THEY HAVEN’T DONE ANYTHING TO HELP THE FARMS AND LEFT IT TO OBAMA TO CEASE IT IF HE CAN PUT HIS HANDS ON IT, AND TAKE IT OUT FROM THE FARMERS, they just came out with a farm bill billions of dollars
where will it go,
thank you,

@mathman:

Now Gramsci does have a vision. His vision, like the utopian visions which preceded and followed his, apply to a non-existent group of beings. The vision of Gramsci does not apply to human beings. Utopias have marred our history ever since there has been a history. And Utopias have always been characterized by oppression of the 99% and unlimited power and wealth for the elites. Name your country and time: the same thing always happens. Socrates had no solution for “power corrups, absolute power corrupts absolutely.” The highest ethical standards and the quest for power do not coexist.

mathman, no matter how many failures those like Gramsci encounter, they are always thinking that the next time their visions of a proletariat utopia it will be successful. And people are foolish to just shrug them off, thinking they cannot achieve their goals.

Think about it; how many of Gramsci’s ideals have we set into place? Progressive income taxation taken from the Communist Manifesto? Done. Government takeover of our schools? Done, with more to come with Common Core. Destruction of the Christian Church? The left is working on that with a lot of success. Destruction of the family? 87% of all black children are born out of wedlock. Elimination of morals and sexual norms? Take a look around you. Pitting one group against another? Happens every day with identity politics.

Not to mention the odd bedfellows between groups like the ACLU and those who support radical Islam (ISNA, Muslim Brotherhood, et al).

We do, indeed, live in strange times and I see no good outcome.

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” John Kenneth Galbraith

GREG
THE MODERN DEMOCRATS ARE SUBJECT TO BLINDNESS AND DEAFNESS AND MUTENESS
RESORTED
TO NEGATE THE TRUTH, THEY ARE ALL HANGNING FACE DOWN LIKE BATS WITH THEIR TAILS JOINING TOGETHER, ON THE SAME WIDEST BRANCH,
WAITING FOR THE QUE FROM THE LEADER,TO FLY DOWN AND SUCK ON THE PEACEFULL EARTHLING BLOOD,
UNTIL THE MORNING LIGHT CATCH THEM, AND THAT’S THEIR CUE TO RETURN TO THEIR BRANCH FEEDING THE BLOOD TO THEIR YOUNG,

Greg
SELFISHNESS IS A GOOD ATTITUDE IN THE RIGHT NEEDED TIME,
THAT IS DONE BY ALL THE FAMILIES, WHEN HARD TIME SET IN.
in order to survive, that hard time,
but THIS GOVERNMENT ALWAYS CHOOSE THAT HARD TIME TO SUCK BLOOD FROM THE PEOPLE, BY INVITING MORE OUTSIDER TO THE TABLE OF THE PEOPLE,

@Greg:

John Kenneth Galbraith

His opinions are about as good as his economics.

Maybe you’ll be more appreciative of a quote from George Will:

“Conservatives define themselves in terms of what they oppose.”

@Greg:

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.” John Kenneth Galbraith

And liberal progressives are not selfish, Greggie? Why, hell, yes, they are just like you are, Greggie.

Tell us, how much did your computer cost? How much does it cost you to have internet service? Why are you so selfish? You could have given the money that your computer cost, and the money that your internet service costs, and give it to the poor. Why didn’t you do that? Why were you so selfish? You could have opted for giving that money away, to the poor, and using a library computer and its internet service instead.

Did you share your salary with someone else who made less money than you, other than someone in your own family? Did you find a poor family, take them in, provide them with housing, food, clothing, sending their kids to college? Or did you keep your salary, choosing to donate to the poor only through your taxes?

Every human being that ever walked the face of the earth was selfish, in one respect or another and for you to try to bash conservatives as being selfish shows how the left is willing to twist the truth. If the left is so generous, why does Barbara Streisand live in a tony Malibu mansion while there are people in California living in poverty?