Kristallnacht, literally, “Night of Crystal,” is often referred to as the “Night of Broken Glass.” The name refers to the wave of violent anti-Jewish pogroms which took place on November 9 and 10, 1938, throughout Germany, annexed Austria, and in areas of the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia recently occupied by German troops.
Instigated primarily by Nazi Party officials and members of the SA (Sturmabteilungen: literally Assault Detachments, but commonly known as Storm Troopers) and Hitler Youth, Kristallnacht owes its name to the shards of shattered glass that lined German streets in the wake of the pogrom—broken glass from the windows of synagogues, homes, and Jewish-owned businesses plundered and destroyed during the violence.
First they came for Romney donors.
Then they came for the Tea Party.
Then they came for Obama critics.
Then they came for those critical of Obamacare.
Then they came for the Friends of Abe.
Then they came for the big names in Conservatives.
Conservative Kristallnacht.
In 2009 Barack Obama “joked” about auditing his enemies.
Barack Obama owes his presidency in no small part to the power of rhetoric. It’s too bad he doesn’t appreciate the damage that loose talk can do to America’s tax system, even as exploding federal deficits make revenues more important than ever.
At his Arizona State University commencement speech last Wednesday, Mr. Obama noted that ASU had refused to grant him an honorary degree, citing his lack of experience, and the controversy this had caused. He then demonstrated ASU’s point by remarking, “I really thought this was much ado about nothing, but I do think we all learned an important lesson. I learned never again to pick another team over the Sun Devils in my NCAA brackets. . . . President [Michael] Crowe and the Board of Regents will soon learn all about being audited by the IRS.”
It wasn’t funny.
Just a joke about the power of the presidency. Made by Jay Leno it might have been funny. But as told by Mr. Obama, the actual president of the United States, it’s hard to see the humor. Surely he’s aware that other presidents, most notably Richard Nixon, have abused the power of the Internal Revenue Service to harass their political opponents. But that abuse generated a powerful backlash and with good reason. Should the IRS come to be seen as just a bunch of enforcers for whoever is in political power, the result would be an enormous loss of legitimacy for the tax system.
It was a red flag. It was a warning. It was a harbinger. He told us he was going to do it. And now it’s here.
Ostensibly no longer a candidate for office, Obama has unleashed full fury of the IRS onto conservatives. It is now a tool of Organizing for Obama America and DNC. No one is safe. And now it’s in the open and out of control and they’re not even disguising it any longer.
Obama brought the power of the IRS to bear in the 2012 campaign:
Try this thought experiment: You decide to donate money to Mitt Romney. You want change in the Oval Office, so you engage in your democratic right to send a check.
Several days later, President Barack Obama, the most powerful man on the planet, singles you out by name. His campaign brands you a Romney donor, shames you for “betting against America,” and accuses you of having a “less-than-reputable” record. The message from the man who controls the Justice Department (which can indict you), the SEC (which can fine you), and the IRS (which can audit you), is clear: You made a mistake donating that money.
Are you worried?
Obama singled them out by name and slandered them with innuendo:
Save Mr. Obama, who acknowledges no rules. This past week, one of his campaign websites posted an item entitled “Behind the curtain: A brief history of Romney’s donors.” In the post, the Obama campaign named and shamed eight private citizens who had donated to his opponent. Describing the givers as all having “less-than-reputable records,” the post went on to make the extraordinary accusations that “quite a few” have also been “on the wrong side of the law” and profiting at “the expense of so many Americans.”
These are people like Paul Schorr and Sam and Jeffrey Fox, investors who the site outed for the crime of having “outsourced” jobs. T. Martin Fiorentino is scored for his work for a firm that forecloses on homes. Louis Bacon (a hedge-fund manager), Kent Burton (a “lobbyist”) and Thomas O’Malley (an energy CEO) stand accused of profiting from oil. Frank VanderSloot, the CEO of a home-products firm, is slimed as a “bitter foe of the gay rights movement.”
These are wealthy individuals, to be sure, but private citizens nonetheless. Not one holds elected office. Not one is a criminal. Not one has the barest fraction of the position or the power of the U.S. leader who is publicly assaulting them.
Then rapacious assault began:
Two months later, the IRS informed VanderSloot he and his wife were going to be audited, Strassel reported. Two weeks after that, VanderSloot was notified by the Labor Department that it was going to “audit workers he employs on his Idaho-based cattle ranch under the federal visa program for temporary agriculture workers,” reported Strassel.
“The H-2A program allows tens of thousands of temporary workers in the U.S.; Mr. VanderSloot employs precisely three,” Strassel wrote. “All are from Mexico and have worked on the VanderSloot ranch—which employs about 20 people—for five years. Two are brothers. Mr. VanderSloot has never been audited for this, though two years ago his workers’ ranch homes were inspected. (The ranch was fined $8,400, mainly for too many ‘flies’ and for ‘grease build-up’ on the stove. God forbid a cattle ranch home has flies.)”
“This letter requests an array of documents to ascertain whether Mr. VanderSloot’s ‘foreign workers are provided the full scope of protections’ under the visa program: information on the hours they’ve worked each day and their rate of pay, an explanation of their deductions, copies of contracts,” she continued.
The IRS leaked the donor list for the National Organization for Marriage to the Obama campaign which then excoriated Romney:
Solmonese, then still the HRC’s president, said in the release he felt Romney’s “funding of a hate-filled campaign designed to drive a wedge between Americans is beyond despicable.”
“Not only has Romney signed NOM’s radical marriage pledge, now we know he’s one of the donors that NOM has been so desperate to keep secret all these years,” Solmonese added.
(Note: If you don’t agree with the radical views of the left you’re despicable.)
A Romney donor even found an Obama operative digging into his divorce records. Such skullduggery is a common practice for Obama.
An Obama capo apparently accessed the tax records of the Koch brothers who were then slandered:
A administration official, speaking on the condition of anonymity in the background briefing, pointed to Koch Industries as an example of “multibillion-dollar businesses that are structured as partnerships in ways that allow them to avoid paying sizable corporate taxes.”
The Tea Party was targeted repeatedly by Obama’s IRSS:
Lois G. Lerner, the woman at the center of the Internal Revenue Service scandal over special scrutiny of conservative groups, specifically targeted tea party applications and directed that they be held up in 2011 in order to come up with an agency policy, according to several of Ms. Lerner’s emails released by a House committee Thursday.
In one 2011 email, Ms. Lerner specifically calls the tea party applications for tax-exempt status problematic, which seems to counter Democrats’ arguments that tea party groups weren’t targeted.
To make certain nothing would come of it Obama appointed one of his donors to investigate.
Dr. Ben Carson was critical of Obama in a prayer breakfast. BANG, audit.
The latest revelation came Thursday from Dr. Carson, the renowned neurosurgeon who told The Washington Times that he was targeted for an audit just months after he gave a speech in front of President Obama that challenged America’s leadership. The agency requested to review his real estate holdings and then conducted a full audit.
In the end, the IRS found no wrongdoing, Dr. Carson said, but it raised his suspicions about being singled out for his speech.
“I guess it could be a coincidence, but I never had been audited before and never really had any encounters with the IRS,” Dr. Carson said in an interview. “But it certainly would make one suspicious because we know now the IRS has been used for political purposes and therefore actions like this come under suspicion.”
A Stage 4 cancer patient was publically critical of Obamacare found himself the subject of an IRS audit– and so was the insurance broker who aided Elliott:
Now suddenly Bill Elliot is being audited for 2009 with an interview only scheduled in April 2014. Assuming he lives that long. That might be a coincidence, but Tucker is being audited back to 2003.
That’s a rather strange coincidence.
Now the IRS is targeting conservatives in Hollywood:
LOS ANGELES — In a famously left-leaning Hollywood, where Democratic fund-raisers fill the social calendar, Friends of Abe stands out as a conservative group that bucks the prevailing political winds.
A collection of perhaps 1,500 right-leaning players in the entertainment industry, Friends of Abe keeps a low profile and fiercely protects its membership list, to avoid what it presumes would result in a sort of 21st-century blacklist, albeit on the other side of the partisan spectrum.
Now the Internal Revenue Service is reviewing the group’s activities in connection with its application for tax-exempt status. Last week, federal tax authorities presented the group with a 10-point request for detailed information about its meetings with politicians like Paul D. Ryan, Thaddeus McCotter and Herman Cain, among other matters, according to people briefed on the inquiry.
The people spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the organization’s confidentiality strictures, and to avoid complicating discussions with the I.R.S.
Their crime? Being conservative:
Friends of Abe — the name refers to Abraham Lincoln — has strongly discouraged the naming of its members. That policy even prohibits the use of cameras at group events, to avoid the unwilling identification of all but a few associates — the actors Gary Sinise, Jon Voight and Kelsey Grammer, or the writer-producer Lionel Chetwynd, for instance — who have spoken openly about their conservative political views.
Obama is now hunting the big game- Dinesh D’Souza. His crime? Making 2016– a movie about Obama.
Dinesh D’Souza, director of the 2012 documentary “2016: Obama’s America,” was arrested and indicted for campaign finance fraud on Thursday, Reuters reports.
The conservative filmmaker and best-selling author allegedly contributed $20,000 in 2012 in the name of others to Republican Wendy Long’s U.S. Senate campaign. Long ran for Hillary Clinton’s vacated Senate seat, but lost to Kirsten Gillibrand.
Federal law in 2012 limited election campaign contributions to $5,000 per person per candidate. Breaking this law is punishable to two years in prison.
“As we have long said, this Office and the FBI take a zero tolerance approach to corruption of the electoral process,” Preet Bharara, the U.S. Attorney for Manhattan, said in a statement.
Attorney Benjamin Brafman told The Hollywood Reporter that his client “did not act with any corrupt or criminal intent whatsoever … at worst this was an act of misguided friendship by D’Souza.”
Follow this case intently- when a democrat does this it’s a misdemeanor.
The Kristallnacht pogrom is in full frenzy. Barack Obama has ordered the IRS to write new rules specifically designed to muzzle the Tea Party while exempting unions and the OFA.
And an IRS rule that purports to—as Mr. Werfel explained—”improve our work in the tax-exempt area” completely ignores the biggest of political players in the tax-exempt area: unions. The guidance is directed only at 501(c)(4) social-welfare groups—the tax category that has of late been flooded by conservative groups. Mr. Obama’s union foot soldiers—which file under 501(c)(5)—can continue playing in politics.
Treasury is also going to great lengths to keep secret the process behind its rule. Cleta Mitchell, an attorney who represents targeted tea party groups, in early December filed a Freedom of Information Act request with Treasury and the IRS, demanding documents or correspondence with the White House or outside groups in the formulation of this rule. By law, the government has 30 days to respond. Treasury sent a letter to Ms. Mitchell this week saying it wouldn’t have her documents until April—after the rule’s comment period closes. It added that if she didn’t like it, she can “file suit.” The IRS has yet to respond.
Mr. Camp has now authored stand-alone legislation to rein in the IRS, though the chance of Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) allowing a Senate vote is approximately equal to that of the press corps paying attention to this IRS rule.
So that puts a spotlight on newly sworn-in IRS Commissioner John Koskinen, who vowed during his confirmation hearing to restore public trust in the agency, and now must decide whether to aid in a new and blatantly political abuse of IRS powers. The White House is using the agency to win an election this fall. They gave the proof this week.
Sen. Schmuck Schumer (D-NY) has called for persecution of a segment of the population because they are guilty of a crime- the crime of dissent.
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D., N.Y.) proposed using the Internal Revenue Service to curtail Tea Party group funding during a speech on how to “exploit” and “weaken” the movement at the Center for American Progress on Thursday.
Arguing that Tea Party groups have a financial advantage after the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision, Schumer said the Obama administration should bypass Congress and institute new campaign finance rules through the IRS.
“It is clear that we will not pass anything legislatively as long as the House of Representatives is in Republican control, but there are many things that can be done administratively by the IRS and other government agencies—we must redouble those efforts immediately,” Schumer said.
“One of the great advantages the Tea Party has is the huge holes in our campaign finance laws created [by] the ill advised decision [Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission],” Schumer said. “Obviously the Tea Party elites gained extraordinary influence by being able to funnel millions of dollars into campaigns with ads that distort the truth and attack government.”
You’d think a Jew would know better than to incite government action against a portion of its citizens, wouldn’t you?
NY Times Executive Editor Jill Abramson has called the Obama regime “The most secretive in history.”
Well, I would slightly like to interpret the question as “How secretive is this White House?” which I think is the most important question. I would say it is the most secretive White House that I have ever been involved in covering, and that includes — I spent 22 years of my career in Washington and covered presidents from President Reagan on up through now, and I was Washington bureau chief of the Times during George W. Bush’s first term.
Leaks that were a great thing when Romney donor info was leaked but not when information is leaked about this dictatorship:
I dealt directly with the Bush White House when they had concerns that stories we were about to run put the national security under threat. But, you know, they were not pursuing criminal leak investigations. The Obama administration has had seven criminal leak investigations. That is more than twice the number of any previous administration in our history. It’s on a scale never seen before. This is the most secretive White House that, at least as a journalist, I have ever dealt with.
The Obama regime even spies on selected reporters.
Pair all of this this with the fact that no one in the Obama regime has been held accountable for anything- not indicted, not fired, nothing. Not for Benghazi, not for Fast and Furious, not for the IRS abuse (despite the IRS chief counsel suffering amnesia 80 times), not for the NSA scandal- nothing.
Obama called for this pogrom- it is undeniable. He published an IRS hit list. This is the guy who took hundreds of millions in untraceable dollars in both 2008 and 2012.
Dissent is not patriotic any more. It’s a crime against the state. The stench of Nazi Germany is detectable on the breath of Barack Obama and Schumer every time they speak.
It’s got to stop. It is super-important that the GOP take the Senate and contain the fascist beast that Barack Obama has become. It would be highly gratifying for the GOP to retake the White House and visit upon these far left radical democrats the grief they have heaped upon conservatives.
And the economy still sucks.
UPDATE
Obama: “I’ve got a pen and I’ve got a phone. And I’ve got the IRS”
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
@Tom:
You are right, while it is an Opposite description of me, I’d think it would be a real good description of you. (I’m sure you didn’t realize you said exactly the opposite of what you intended to say, Just saying)
But then, I find that liberals are consistently stupid.
@Tom:
by the way, the ‘tying your shoe laces statement’ was because I have literally never met a liberal that was capable. You seem to not be an exception.
@Tom:
And you should get back on your meds so you are less embarrassing to yourself.
And I’m still waiting on your German comparison to those being “scapegoated” killing German protestants. Having trouble finding it?
Oh, well; I guess your mouth wrote a check your ass can’t cash; again.
@Redteam:
You would think Tom would tire of making a fool of himself. Guess not. I suspect he’s the reason they make athletic shoes with Velcro. Oh, but wait….he did say he wears slippers. Guess he’s not allowed shoes in the asylum. Prisoners are not allowed to wear shoes with shoe strings, either. Ummmm????????
Tom
you are being serve the truth, it”s your chance to make the decision on your futur belief,
YES IT BOTHER YOU, AND YOU ARE ANGRY, but don”t insult here the good CONSERVATIVES,
who educate you and help you to use your own judgement as oppose to what you have been fed
elsewhere with whom you live or friend, you are not them, you are the only youthere is,
don”t miss this chance,
Tom
YES
I JUST SEE THAT YOU NEED MORE YEARS TO HAVE A BETTER JUDGEMENT
IT TAKE MORE TIME TO SOME WHO ARE SLOW , AND IT’S NOT SURE IF THEY WILL GET IT,
@Greg:
Where is your evidence that Bush “hyped” Iranian WMDs, and what the hell would that have to do with Iraq WMDs that even the UN admitted Saddam possessed just before he invaded Kuwait? My post was regarding declassified military reports on the 500 WMD containing munitions that were indeed found in Iraq.
@Redteam: #106
For those who want to pass the story on like I just did, one of the web sites that printed the letter is at
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1968979/posts
@Redteam #121:
I’ve never seen any documentation that the convoys left the country, in spite of the fact that surveillance would have been constant to monitor their destinations. Evidence for that part of the story should exist in abundance—unless, of course, it never happened. The aerial photos presented with the story are of truck convoys leaving supply depots, not of trucks leaving Iraq.
So, where were they going? Given the fact that a U.S. pre-invasion bombing campaign was a virtual certainty and that military supply depots were obvious high-priority targets, the logical conclusion is that Iraqi military strategists were moving war materials from their centralized depot locations to the various locations in Iraq where they would be needed to fight a war. That sort of convoy activity is exactly what would be expected.
It isn’t as if everything is Bush’s fault, or nothing is. Each administration has made decisions, some more and some less wise than others, and certain consequences have followed. Obama didn’t launch wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, nor did he create the economic disaster that was already in progress when he was first sworn in as President. Those monumental problems, which weighed heavily on the nation throughout his first term and still do, were already waiting, courtesy of decisions made earlier. Obama did decide to intervene in Libya. He did decide to refrain from military involvement in Syria, and to focus on Syria’s chemical weapons, which undoubted did exist. He did decide to risk public money to keep GM from going under. The Affordable Care Act is largely his program. The outcomes of that and much more will eventually be to his credit or something he’ll be blamed for.
Smorgasbord
THANK YOU FOR THE LINK,
THIS MUST BE READ BY ALL TRUE AMERICANS,
MANY DIDN’T KNOW,
I WAS TALKING OF THE OTHER LINK ALSO,
@ilovebeeswarzone: #160
Redteam deserves the credit for the story. I just passed it on.
Smorgasbord
HI,
it should be pass on more time,
so to sink it into hard heads,
BYE
HOW ABOUT A QUOTE OR TWO,
the past is a ghost, the future a dream,
all we ever have is now,
HERE’S ANOTHER:
life is what happen to you,
while you”r busy making other plan,
i found those in A link
@Bill Burris:
The IRS Chief Counsel met with Obama two days before the IRS was given its criteria to target conservative groups. Wilkins suffered amnesia about that meeting 80 times in testimony.
That’s as iron clad as it gets.
130 You surrender the point, Tom? You must, because that is usually the point at which you leftists draw your race/ethnicity card.
131 You continue to ignore Ingram that was actually promoted to oversee the implementation of Obamacare; you know, the program that is collecting personal data from individuals and going to fine those who do not comply with the law (if it is ever fully enacted). Others were allowed to resign (with their full compensation) just ahead of their retirements. In other words, NO ONE is held accountable… again.
The only person drawing administration attention in the Benghazi disaster is the one person cooperating and honestly trying to help get to the bottom of what happened, Gregory Hicks. Only those who support full disclosure are punished, seemingly to send a message that you had better shut up and be a team player (lying like Rice) or else. Transparency and integrity. Obama style.
Here’s a simplistic historical analogy from a simplistic person, designed solely to invoke racial fear and hatred; Genius Joe Biden saying :”they (Republicans) want to put yall back in chains”, speaking to Virginians. Oh, I forgot…. that’s OK.
@Greg 159 ” He did decide to refrain from military involvement in Syria, and to focus on Syria’s chemical weapons, which undoubted did exist.” Oh, that’s a rich one. Obama, if you will remember, had made Syrian use of chemical weapons against the rebels his “red line” and “line in the sand”, pretending to himself that anyone in the world fears his resolve to act in any determined way. Once that line was crossed, he blanched and began scrambling furiously to get out of the corner he painted himself in. Only Herman Munster could extricate himself from his self-made snare, giving the Russians and Syrians the excuse for further delays they needed (oh, and the Syrians are not living up to the agreement that got Obama’s foot out of his mouth and noose).
” He did decide to risk public money to keep GM from going under.” He spent taxpayer money to keep union contracts from being renegotiated (screwing the legal bond holders) and, as the final chapter in the book, the government finally sold the rest of their GM stock, helping us 49% that pay the taxes take a $10 billion bath. But, I am happy the UAW can still afford to contribute millions to the Democrat of their (union leadership, not necessarily union membership) choice.
Off the current subject, but related to the campaign tag line, “GM alive, bin Laden dead”, why hasn’t Obama gotten Ayman al-Zawahiri? So much praise of Obama for “getting” bin Laden and criticism of Bush because he couldn’t, why hasn’t hound dog Obama gotten Zawahiri? We’ve been looking for his since we have been looking for bin Laden, what’s the problem? OHHH…. that’s right; the techniques used to home in on bin Laden, which Obama denounced but benefitted so nicely from, are no longer utilized. Of course, there are hardly any prisoners to utilize them on since we kill rather than capture them. But, Greg, why the abject failure to get Zawahiri?
@drjohn: There is no iron clad when a liberal is concerned. Denial is a river that runs from liberal ear to liberal ear and flushes out all reason and ethics. As we can clearly see, the ends justifies the means and, as long as it isn’t directed against them, it all serves the good of the collective. This piece you have written here is one of the most descriptive of what this administration has been focusing on (while the unemployed, economy and national security suffers). I suggest any liberal taking umbrage at your comparisons google the comparison of Bush to Hitler and discover the genesis of the genre. Perhaps sometime you can instigate another discussion of how National SOCIALISM is left wing, not right wing. Those are good, too.
@Smorgasbord: Thanks Smorg.
@Bill Burris, #165:
That’s one of the right’s favorite stories. They love that sort of spin.
Those of us who live in a reality-based world where results are what matter, and At what cost? is always a relevant question, focus on the fact that the mere threat of U.S. military intervention resulted in the first internationally monitored chemical weapons concessions extracted from Syria after decades of none whatsoever—something that was achieved without the U.S. firing a single shot.
The right is so obsessed with their need to destroy their own country’s democratically elected President that they instantly flipped into denial mode, where they’ve spent a majority of their time since Obama was first elected. So, an agreement to systematically document and destroy chemical weapons under international supervision from a dictator having known stockpiles, known production facilities, and a known operational delivery systems is deemed totally irrelevant—even though his missile bases are a frickin’ stone’s throw from Israeli population centers. And—just in case it might be mistaken for something relevant at some point—merit badges are awarded to former KGB ego-manic Vladimir Putin for brokering the deal with one of his pet dictators. As if Vlad’s primary interest was to get Obama out of a tight spot.
Liberal denial? What we’ve got far more often is right wing projection. They really seem to believe that liberals are guilty of everything they constantly do themselves.
GREG
YOU GIVE THE BENEFIT TO OBAMA
IT IS THE CONGRESS WHO DESERVE THAT BENEFIT OF NOT WANTING OBAMA TO ATTACK
THE ASSAD GOVERNMENT WICH HE WANTED TO DO SO MUCH
SINCE A LONG TIME PASS WHEN HE TOLD HIM TO RESIGN,
AND WAS TOLD TO MIND HIS BUSINESS,
SO DON”T COME HERE AND GIVE US THAT STORY,
ALL THE CONSERVATIVES ARE WAY AHEAD OF YOU,
and the people where gathering against attacking ASSAD,
BESIDE it was said LATELY,that OBAMA accept some SYRIANS IN THIS COUNTRY AS IMMIGRANTS,
HOPE THOSE ARE NOT THE ONE EATING THE LIVER OF THE ONE THEY CAPTURED,
surely he did take some in the rebel side he favored since the START OF THE REBELLION,
AND HOW WOULD HE KNOW THEY ARE NOT OUR ENEMY UNDER COVER, eating the liver of the human,
BECK
don”t take the blame on the other”s bad manners, and failures,
you just was ahead of what is told today,
they have deserve all of it, and not you but the citizens decide who is dividing it”s the democrats,
not you,
THIS IS ThE MOST DIVISIVE GOVERNMENT EVER SEEN, TOLD BY MANY WHO OBSERVE IT SINCE THE LAST 5 AND SOME YEARS, THERE IS ALWAYS ONE MORE COMING TO MENTION IT,
@Greg: I swear, Greg, if Obama were to crap in white pants and sit in it, the liberal entourage would hail it as the greatest and most successful policy event in world history.
He made a big, bold tough war-lord threat that if Syria used chemical weapons, that would be a red line for us, impling…. well, something, but presumedly military action. He even promised military support of the insurgency. Apparently, he believes that if HE says it, it strikes fear in the hearts of the bad guys. Well, the power of the United States Military is one thing, but the threat of the United States Military led by Obama is quite another. So, Syria took him, well, as seriously as it actually looks. They just went ahead and used their chemical weapons.
Meanwhile, Obama dilly-dallied and waited for the perfect political moment (for him) so long that the insurgency became largely riddled with al Qaeda (the part that still existed after Barack Rambo wiped out the rest) so arming them would be folly, not that that would normally be a deterrent to Obama committing folly.
Once the Syrians risked the wrath of Obama, they were faced with the consequences of having crossed that scary red line. And that amounted to….?
To Obama’s credit, we certainly should not have been involved in a Syrian civil war. However, sacrificing US prestige and determination should not have been the cost, which you claim was zero. No, Obama overtly looking around for a way out of the stupid predicament he himself created and all but leaping joyfully at the first opportunity to keep from doing what he said (or implied the threat of) he was going to do damaged US prestige and, again, guarantees there will be more and greater challenges and threats to US influence; influence which is vital to the peace and safety of the world.
After Bush SAID he would go into Afghanistan to clean out al Qaeda and the Taliban, then did it, after Bush SAID he would oust Hussein and secure the WMD’s, then did the part that was possible, the terrorist world knew that if the US SAID they were going to do something, they damn well were going to do it; Khadaffi even surrendered HIS WMD’s for fear of it. The terrorist world can now, again, take solace in the proven fact that regardless of what the US threatens, we are going to find a political means to save face as we back out of our commitments. So, thanks to liberal stupidity and cowardice, there WILL be more war.
Congratulations.
@Bill Burris: Great comment Bill.
It called to mind the incredible strength of a man whose words really carry power, Ronald Reagan.
Recall the campaign between him and Jimmy Carter.
Day 400, Day 4o1, Day 402…..all the way to Day 444 when Reagan was being sworn in.The Iranians KNEW Reagan would do what he threatened to do to get our Americans held hostage out.
They freed their hostages while Reagan was being sworn n.
That’s strength behind words.
Obama has nothing like that.
The OFA must have given all their guys the day off.
@Bill Burris, #171:
Why did Putin intervene? Because he thought absolutely nothing would happen if he didn’t? Obama is perfectly capable of ordering missile and air strikes when he concludes it’s necessary. That has been demonstrated.
Half the time the story seems to be that he’s about to declare martial law and take over the entire apparatus of government; the other half of the time the story seems to be that he’s a total milquetoast, full of idle threats but too fearful and indecisive to act. I detect a certain inconsistency in all of this.
If Bush went and cleaned out or ousted anybody or anything, I guess we’ll have to agree for the sake of consistency that Obama got bin Laden.
@Greg:
when and where?
actually he’s a puppet.
Well, actually the military told him about it when it was too late to recall the strike, which he would have had he had the opportunity. milquetoast, indeed.
The poem was written by a MARINE CORPS Officer (ANONYMOUS). Very thought provoking and poignant. Please read it and pass it on . . . it’s one way to keep the issue alive.
This should be circulated as much as we can possibly keep it going. I think this is the feeling of the general population and it should be pursued until something is done with the incompetency in Washington who literally sat in the White House and State Department watching their execution on live streaming video and did absolutely nothing to save or rescue them, didn’t even try.
I’m here to assure you that it isn’t.
I don’t believe that’s even a remote approximation of what actually occurred in the White House or at the State Department. It’s an ugly, corrosive fantasy that’s been deliberately put into people’s heads to further a political agenda that isn’t in the best interest of the nation.
@Greg:
My, oh, my, Greggie. You truly are a useful idiot, aren’t you?
You think Americans don’t care about why four Americans were allowed to be slaughtered in Benghazi? Perhaps not in your insular world of brain dead lemmings who dream of some Socialist utopia where no one is every hungry, no one is every wanting for anything. Where the state (i.e. government) provides for all your needs and the only cost is your soul.
But in the real world, out here in every day American land, Americans not only care, but they want answers. Not some lame lie about internet videos which has been proven false.
So what did happen, Greggie? Where was Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. when four Americans were being slaughtered? Was he in bed getting his beauty rest so he could fly to Las Vegas the next day and collect lots of liberal progressive money for his campaign? Where was Hillary Clinton, the woman who thinks that it doesn’t make any difference why four Americans were slaughtered; four Americans THAT WORKED FOR HER.
Why do you defend the indefensible, Greggie; i.e. this current President? Is he the answer to your prayer for a Marxist in the White House? A true Socialist, one that will create that utopia you just know can exist but never has before because the right people were never in charge of implementing that utopia?
How pathetic you are, Greggie. You would discount the deaths of Americans to rally around Obama. Odd, you on the left were fixated on dead Americans under Bush. If it were not for double standards, you progressives would have no standards at all.
A former CIA agent, who had long ceased to be covert, was outed by her own husband, but claimed it was the Bush administration that outed her. Cries, and demands for accountability rolled across Liberal Land like a fog. Four dead Americans in Benghazi, and those same people in Liberal Land give us crickets.
So share with us your vast knowledge of information, Greggie. Where was Obama when Christopher Stevens was slaughtered?
Redteam
HI,
thank you, this is very hard on emotions to explose,
while reading it,
SUCH SADNESS, IN THERE,
@Redteam: #167
I try to give credit where credit is due, and not take any I don’t deserve. That is one of the many reasons I don’t run for political office. I wouldn’t fit in.
GREG
you are in denial, you can”t believe t< while it"s in your face, THE INDOCTRINATION OF GREG
is completed, you libs can let him go, HE IS THE ZOMBIE NUMBER 0,
A book by Michael Hastings, The Operators, revealed in 2012 that Barack Obama did not want to take photos with the US troops in Iraq…..
BUT…..in 2009…..
Barack Obama told US troops, “You guys make a pretty good photo op.”
2012. MSNBC’s TAMRON HALL:
Smorgasbord
YOU WOULD BE A GOOD PRESIDENT,
because the first requirement is a HEART, FOR A BUNCH OF TASKS, A HEART IN ALL AND EACH ONE,
that is the number one attribute, AND FROM THAT ONE THE SKY IS THE LIMIT,
YOU CANNOT DO WRONG, BECAUSE YOU DON’T BELONG TO YOURSELF,
YOU BELONG IN TOTALITY TO THE PEOPLE, YOU SERVE, AND KNOW WHAT TO KEEP THEM HAPPY
AND FREE ALWAYS,
@Greg: #174
Your leader didn’t know anything about the raid that got bin Laden, and wasn’t told about it until the helicopters were already in Pakistani airspace. As usual, that didn’t keep him from taking credit for something he didn’t do.
Your leader had refused to go after him on several occasions when we could have gotten Osama. Why do you suppose he refused to get Osama those times, and why didn’t he want to authorize the raid that got him?
Why didn’t Bill Clinton take Osama when he was offered Osama three different times? Clinton said he couldn’t find a legal way to take him, even though Osama was declared a terrorist. 9/11 probably wouldn’t have happened if your leader at that time would have done his sworn duty to protect the USA.
@Redteam: #175
A puppet has only one person operating it. Since obama has many people operating him, he is a marionette. I would like to see someone come out with the Obama marionette. I would love to be able to make him do and say what I want him to, just like his puppeteers are now.
I would have him admit to being an illegal, and that his sole purpose of being president was to destroy the USA. I would have him in a miniature Fort Leavenworth prison.
That was worth going into my, “Famous Sayings” list.
@Smorgasbord:
That’s true. All the other libs, except Greg are off today, wonder why the OFA didn’t give him the day off also. I guess they had to have at least one on call.
@Nanny G: #182
I ordered the book, “The Operators”.
You reminded me of when hillary clinton was in Iraq a long time ago. I don’t remember when. Her and her group were housed just off of the mess tent. They would come in for a meal, jump in front of everybody, get their food, then go back to their quarters.
Military custom is that the lower ranking eat first, and the higher ranking eat last. Since the lower ranking eats first, in my opinion, she put her self in the right ranking when she went ahead of the lowest rank in line. She unknowingly put herself where she belongs.
@retire05, #178:
I presume you must have at least a few acquaintances, friends, and/or relatives who aren’t conspiracy theorists. If not, you might want to consider the fact that the current President was re-elected to a second term nearly 2 months after the Benghazi tragedy—2 months during which right-wing media outlets were furiously cranking out an unending stream of increasingly extreme rumor, speculation, and outright lies about what had happened—and the election wasn’t even close. Obviously a majority of American voters didn’t believe it, or someone else would presently be in the White House.
Outlandish accusations have been cranked out in connection with nearly every controversial topic. While angry hyperbole might appeal to a fringe element, average Americans get to the point where they simply roll their eyes and stop listening. The result is that legitimate topics and criticisms that could and should be getting serious attention get lost in all the noise. It just turns people off when every topic, large or small, becomes an anti-Obama rant. How is it republicans don’t seem to be able to figure this out? Instead of striking a moderate tone and focusing on topics that would make a broader cross-section listen, they methodically drive out anyone who attempts to do that. We can’t seem to have a rational national debate about deficits and debt, for example, even though most reasonable people really want to hear a reasonable discussion focused on a cooperative search for solutions. Politicians immediately turn it into open warfare.
@ilovebeeswarzone: Thanks for the compliment, but there are many more people who should be president, or in congress than me. They just don’t have the money to run. When a person needs many millions of dollars to run, the ones with the money will always get what they want from politicians.
I do have two qualifications that obama doesn’t:
(1) I was born here.
(2) Both of my parents were Americans.
@Redteam: #186
To show my ignorance of today’s acronyms, I had to look up “OFA”. The only one I could find that seemed to fit is, “obama For America”. Is that what you meant? There should be a law that says when a person isn’t texting or using Twitter, plain English SHALL BE USED. That way the rest of us can read it.
@Greg: #188
In my opinion, there were two main reasons Benghazi didn’t lose the election for obama:
(1) At that time, the propaganda media had a much larger following, and the propaganda media didn’t spend hardly any time reporting it, so most of the people might not of heard about it. I forget which network it was, but they only spent A FEW SECONDS (not minutes) reporting it. It wasn’t covered by the propaganda media, so the ones who only listen to them didn’t know hardly anything about it.
(2) Too many people care more about getting their free stuff, and less about what is going on around the world. As long as they get their free stuff, they don’t care.
I have asked for ANY liberal to answer two simple questions that NONE have answered yet:
(1) Many republicans have complained about some of the things George Bush did or didn’t do. Can any of you name just ONE thing obama did or didn’t do that you didn’t like.
(2) You think there are people who make too much money. At what amount will you figure you are making enough, and won’t accept any more, or will give the excess to charity or the government?
@Greg: I would imagine that the concern in the mind of any leader at the time would be “just what WILL this incompetnet amature do to save his political skin?”. Sure, Obama could have sent some cruise missiles in, ala Bubba and the dress, or sent over some 117’s or even a B2. I also suspect Obama didn’t know what he was going to do, which would explain the extended delay. In he end, we, the nation, looked like fools that go around making bold threats and proclamations with neither the will or the means to carry them out.
Now, it is a fact that Bush’s actions resulted in the end of a murderous regime. As I stated, his actions also resulted in Khadaffi volunteering to give up his WMD’s. Further, as I stated, yes, Obama got bin Laden… after Bush’s policies gave him his address. Now, how about Zawahiri? He’s been the leader since bin Laden was taken out; why hasn’t Obama gotten him? Perhaps he needs Bush to come back and show him how it’s done, that, yeah, it’s satisfying to kill with death from above, but in the long term war on terror, that does not yield many data mines and if you are too mamby-pamby to mine that data anyway, you might as well just zap em as you find em.
Now, as you say, he is kind of like Two-Face, but here is the determining detail; if something poses a personal political threat, he is cold blooded and vicious, and it helps when he can act against defenseless American citizens. When he needs to act in the name of national security (like supporting the surge in Iraq or his own in Afghanistan) his personal politics makes him analyze and calculate indefinitely to make sure he has not political exposure and has all his excuses in line before he commences. At least Bush had his commitments and determination to do what he thought was right and did it, election be damned.
Now, just to show you how impartial I am, Obama got bin Laden and that was really good. The entire rest he has mucked up completely. See, I give praise, where praise is due, and criticism.@Greg: “…and it should be pursued until something is done with the incompetency in Washington who literally sat in the White House and State Department watching their execution on live streaming video and did absolutely nothing to save or rescue them, didn’t even try.
I don’t believe that’s even a remote approximation of what actually occurred” No, you are right. No one even knows, to this day, where Obama or Hillary were during the attack. But we know Obama didn’t let such a tragedy get in the way of his fund raising, which he did the very next day. The only part that worked as planned was the media coming to the rescue to make sure he didn’t get any of it on him before the election.
GREG
you might want to consider < of who elected him, why, what,how,
@Smorgasbord:
I had to look it up also, apparently that is an official organization looking out for the Master. It seems to be the organization that hires all the spokespersons on these blogs to push Obama’s agenda.
@Smorgasbord: (1)
The general public is woefully un-informed. Watched a guy today, on the internet, asking people on the street what they thought about President Kennedy being killed in a car accident today in Washington, DC.
He was, at age 77, walking on a street in Washington when hit and killed by an automobile. Everyone thought it was sad, “you can’t live forever”, gee, that’s really sad”, oh my, I hadn’t heard about that, that’s terrrible. etc.
They didn’t say when the funeral would be.
@Redteam: #194
Curt should be proud that OFA sends some of their agents to his web site. They will only go after people, companies, and organizations they feel are a threat to their agenda. Evidently, they feel that Curt is a threat to them. I hope he has all the paperwork for his coming IRS audit.
@Redteam: #195
I have seen videos like that, only the person was asking questions that most grade schoolers used to be taught. Idaho is getting ready to start implementing common core, but some of our state politicians are against it. I hope we win. I still keep asking myself where were the parents when their kids were going through school? How could they let their kid go through school and not even learn enough to know how to fill out a job application?
@Smorgasbord:
Democrat twits and OFA minions have the unmitigated gall to ask why many Conservative posters deign to use their real names, when they know full well that this is an administrati0n which illegally, and under the color of law, uses our government agencies as thugs against their political enemies. Obama’s SOTU speech tonight would be better termed “STFU,” because (with his jack-booted thuggery targeting conservatives who practice free speech,) that is what he want’s his opposition to do. Nixon was a piker compared to Obama’s lawless ideologue Chicago political machine. This administration is one of the most successful pseudo-mafioso socialist organization to ever get political power. At no other time has an organized syndicate ever completely taken control of the Justice Department. The Godmother (Valerie Jarret,) through TOTUS will work Obama’s lips, to deliver to Republicans “an offer you can’t refuse.”
The weak-kneed GOP leadership will likely surrender to the continual intimidation tactics of the Democrat backed goons squads, and consider “the offer”. Which is why we need to use the Republican primaries to drive out such wimps, and take on the “Chicago machine” before it turns America into a mirror of the blight and pay to play, crony-capitalist corruption rampant in places like Chicago and Detroit.
@Ditto: #198
It almost sounds like our government has been infiltrated, and the infiltrators are accomplishing their intended purpose.
If you drive out the wimps in the republican party, they will just be replaced by more of the same, since the RNC decides who gets campaign money, and they won’t give any to anybody who doesn’t go along with the republican agenda, which is to get democrats elected.
I JUST HEARD AL GORE SAY WE HAVE TO LIMIT HAVING BABYS,
BECAUSE IT’S NOT GOOD FOR CLIMATE CHANGE,
AT FOX NEWS, JUST A WHILE AGO, FROM HIS OWN MOUTH,
HOW ABOUT CLOSING THE BORDERS INSTEAD,
SO TO SAVE FUTURE AMERICAN’S LIVES,
WHAT THE F.CK IS WRONG WITH THAT ALL GORE?