DrJohn’s Law

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Four years ago Jim Geraghty said that all of Barack Obama’s statements come with an expiration date. Almost three years ago I told you (some might say less charitably) that you have to be an idiot to believe anything Barack Obama says. Then I gave you more proof of why you’re an idiot to believe anything Obama says. A few days ago I provided an Obama Bullsh*t Decoder. Today I offer you DrJohn’s Law:

Whatever Obama says is a lie. The opposite is the truth. That includes the entire incompetent administration because he owns everything they do and has fired exactly no one for anything. To wit:

White House denies promising 7 million Obamacare signups: ‘That was never our target number’

I immediately know, without even reading, that this is a lie. And it is.

White House health care adviser Phil Schiliro denied that the Obama administration ever set Obamacare enrollment goals of 7 million consumers, saying Tuesday it “was never our target number.”

Schiliro spoke with MSNBC’s Kristen Welker about the stumbling health care law’s prospects moving forward. Current numbers show roughly 2 million signups for Obamacare at the end of December — 1 million short of what the White House projected months ago. Previous administration estimates counted on at least 7 million enrollees by the March 31 deadline, with concerns that government health exchanges could function poorly — or even break down — if a smaller number signed up.

The conversation went like this:

WELKER: Are you confident that you’re going to be able to meet your target of getting 7 million people by the end of March? And is that still your target number?

SCHILIRO: Well, that was never our target number. That was a target that was put out by the Congressional Budget Office and has become the accepted number. But there’s no –

WELKER: Well Kathleen Sebelius has said 7 million people, that that’s the goal.

SCHILIRO: But that was because it came from the Congressional Budget Office and it had become an accepted number. There’s no magic to the 7 million. What there is magic to is that in the month of December, a million Americans signed up for insurance. Not because they had to. They didn’t face a penalty if they didn’t. They signed up because they wanted insurance on Jan. 1.

But, but, but….

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius did, of course, set a goal of 7 million sign ups back in June, calling it a “realistic target.” The White House has since backtracked: In November, spokesman Dan Pfeiffer lowered the bar to simply “as many people as possible.” But Tuesday marks the first time an administration official outright denied issuing the target in the first place.

But heck, they know they can lie to MSNBC. There’s not enough water on Earth that they can’t carry for Obama. It was a lie. Whether it was healing the Earth, stopping the oceans from rising, raising the dead or fixing the economy in three years, Obama is a full of sh*t. There is simply no other way to put it. And I for one am tired of it.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQNkVmdicvA[/youtube]

Watching that still makes my stomach burn. It’s that stupid. It’s that egomaniacal. The guy is loaded with charisma but nothing beyond that. He is accustomed to being dictatorial and has sown only the seeds of division. The people who voted for Obama would have voted for Hitler. He had charisma too. He was inspiring too. He made big promises. He was full of sh*t too.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t7SYmGC_Lo[/youtube]

I know some readers will get bent out of shape over this comparison, but this is about style and they absolutely do have similar characteristics. Both were and are grandiose bloviating egomaniacs, both divided their countries, both promised pie in the sky and both depicted their fellow citizens as enemies and both asked others to take action against those enemies. Remember Obama the Greek God?

The-Audacity-of-Barack

That reminds me of this:

hitler speech 3

I knew full well back in 2008 that Obama was full of sh*t, as did a lot of people. Electing him was stupid, re-electing him was criminal. That was akin to the second marriage- the triumph of hope over experience. He had accomplished nothing other than get elected to offices. Nothing. The only thing he has accomplished is the initiation of Obamacare, which is more about controlling your life and wealth redistribution than it is about healthcare. An administration that refused to disavow the assertions by its underlings that Mitt Romney was a liar, tax cheat, felon and murderer is hopelessly corrupt. Wait- let me remind you:

Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter suggested that Mitt Romney may be a criminal on a conference call with reporters this morning about a Boston Globe report that shows that Romney stayed at Bain Capital three years past when he said he’d left.

Cutter said that there were two ways to interpret the story. The first: Mitt Romney was “misrepresenting his position” at Bain to the Securities and Exchange Commission, “which is a felony.”

And there was the time they accused Romney of being a murderer, which the Obama campaign refused to disavow.

And Obama? What did he have to say?

“We point out sharp differences between the candidates, but we don’t go out of bounds,”

Another lie, or course. It was so far out of bounds that it was evil.

Our friend dan from squirell hill has assembled a list of over 500 Obama lies and that’s probably still not all of them as pretty much everything that comes out of Obama’s mouth is a lie. As already mentioned, Obama is great at promising pie in the sky but he can’t build you a ladder tall enough to get it. Thing is, he knows it. He knows he’s lying and he knows how stupid his base is. He knows it’s why poor people keep voting for democrats despite the fact that all they’ve done is create more poor people. Hope over experience.

And so the lying continues. DrJohn’s Law.

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Tom #44 proves what a loser he is when he takes the typical turn in almost all arguments with progressives, going to the personal insults, the racist accusations and name calling. What a surprise.

@DrJohn:

Second, your mindless ad hominem proves the mental bankruptcy of the left in general.

Mindless? And how would you define a sweeping generalization such as “The people who voted for Obama would have voted for Hitler”? If you choose to troll 59 million people, expect some push-back

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You didn’t read the post and I cannot force you to do so.

I did read the post. You’ve provided no legitimate basis for such a generalization. Based on your criteria, I could compare you to Charles Manson and say, “well, you both liked the Beatles, so you’re just like Charles Manson”.

@Scott in Oklahoma:

Actually, I offered him an opportunity to clarify why he’s labeling 59 million people nazis. As usual, he can’t ground his over the top rhetoric in any reasonable factual basis. I notice that doesn’t bother you, probably because you get off on the comparison too.

@Tom 53… “get off on the comparison”? Really? Your arrogance is only surpassed by your ignorance. And I don’t think I saw anywhere, ever, DrJohn labelling 59 million people Nazis. I see the comparison he’s referring to, the pre-WWII Adolf Hitler, the promises he made and the actions he took, not the more famous killing of the Jews in the process of going to war with everyone who disagreed with him. Hitler was elected to be the leader of Germany by people just like you Tom, who believed his lies even when they were pointed out as lies, who believed his commentary about taking actions “for the good of the people” and ignored the warning signs of the direction he was going to take. Yes Tom, people just like you, who, when confronted with the truth chose to believe the promises of a regime with an agenda. And it was believers like you, who herded six million Jews to their death, “just following orders”.

@Tom:

” I could compare you to Charles Manson and say, “well, you both liked the Beatles, so you’re just like Charles Manson”.

And you would be wrong. In order to be correct, you would have to say “Dr. John and Charles Manson had liking the Beetles in common.”

Your sentence indicates that because both liked the Beetles, they were exactly alike in all areas and that would be a false statement.

@Scott in Oklahoma:

Oh, it’s just” pre-WWII Adolf Hitler” we’re talking about, is that it? Do you mean the Hitler who in 1934 consolidated power by ordering the murder of his political rivals? Or the Hitler who ordered the nation-wide pogrom against Jews in 1938? Feel free to elaborate on Obama’s murders and his pogroms so we can all understand what you mean.

@retire05:

Your sentence indicates that because both liked the Beetles, they were exactly alike in all areas and that would be a false statement.

Which is exactly my point. Stating that Obama and Hitler are both “egomaniacs” hardly justifies the comparison. Justin Beiber is probably an egomaniac. Should we write a post comparing him to Hitler?

TOM
another similarity for you
it took HITLER many years before he felt the power was in his hands,
while going all over on campaign speechs promisses,spending the money of the people,
he acquire by fraud and muscle strength from his youth clandestinely stealing the people who did not belong to the party,as a revenge, GIVING THEM A PENALTY THEY HAD TO PAY, but secretly done, to always cover HITLER WHO WAS BEHIND ALL THOSE DESPICABLE ACTIONS,
LIKE WHAT I just heard of that WW11 VETERAN WHO HAVE A SMALL BUSINESS AND HARASS TO PAY A FINE BECAUSE HE DID NOT COMPLY TO AN ORDER TO FIX THE BRICKS OUTSIDE
WHEN THEY ORDER HIM, NOW THEY PUT THAT 88 YEAR OLD MAN IN PRISON,
GESTAPO STYLE? you bet your ass it is, in AMERICA

It’s rather odd that those here on the left are unwilling to acknowledge the fact that, as did Hitler, Obama intends to establish the second coming of the SS!
“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” “Security Force”-Sure does sound like Schutz Staffel!

Tom
you ought to never underestimate the gifts of perception which the CONSERVATIVES POSESS,
they can percieve every move OBAMA WILL MAKE AND SO FAR THEY ARE RIGHT ON ,
AND THAT’S WHY THE DEMOCRATS HATE THEM SO MUCH AND FEAR THEM,
THEY DEMONYSE THE CONSERVATIVE OUT OF FEAR, same as they did for SARAH PALIN,
when they saw how bright she was,
AND OBAMA DEMONYSE THE CONGRESS ALL THE TIME,
SINCE HE HAS THE JOB,
so if you see low number on the polls you can tell how that constant demonization work on their medias
the same way,
and the percieve next move of OBAMA is already known, and nobody like what they percieve,
for the PEOPLE,

@Tom:

Which is exactly my point. Stating that Obama and Hitler are both “egomaniacs” hardly justifies the comparison. Justin Beiber is probably an egomaniac. Should we write a post comparing him to Hitler?

The problem is that you are assuming that egomania is the only aspect of similarities between Obama, and any other dictator. And while there are dissimilarities between Obama and Hitler (Hitler was truly intelligent, Obama is not; Hitler could speak for great lengths of time without the aid of two teleprompters; Hitler was totally in charge while Obama plays golf and leaves the running of his office to those like Valerie Jarrett), there are similarities other than their over indulged egos.

@Gerry:

Not this again.

It’s clear that Obama is the lightening rod for a certain strain of paranoid magical thinking on the Right. Principled conservatives obviously have philosophical reasons why they don’t like Obama, but where does this stuff fit in? John Stewart, in reference to Fox news, said something very interesting recently. He characterized what they’re doing as “expressing anger and victimization over the loss of absolute power and reframing that as persecution of ‘real America’ by minorities, freeloaders, and socialists”. That perfectly describes the motivation behind everything DrJohn writes, and why it has such a pull for so many who feel the same way.

@Tom:

When you have to resort to using the comments of a comedian to bolster your argument, you have already lost, but it does show the level of your intellect.

super

@Gerry: @Gerry:

Wow. This has been a hell of a firestorm. All because someone compared our sad sack President to Hitler? Gerry, you hit it here as did Drjohn. LEfties (and some righties unfortunately) do not want learn and actually refuse to learn from history, yet history defines us. Under this treasonous bastard and his lackeys of both parties, we are repeating history. We already see the hard left and their propaganda media industry marginalizing and making new enemies of the people (wow, just like Hitler did with the Jews), in this case those of us who have chosen to stand by our founding principles and rights. I love history and as I’m reading the garbage from some of the posts above it once again occurs to me that mind dead liberals and power mad Rino scum have in fact achieved their goals. They have completely brainwashed their followers to the point where fact and reason are not things they can or are willing to understand. No real arguments against our stands, just liberal bullshit talking points. And heaven forbid anyone debate them with fact as they have nothing to stand on so they just spew the tired garbage, bereft of facts and truth.

I for one call it like it is. Yes, I openly compare this guy with Hitler, but I will go a step farther than Drjohn did because as I said in my earlier statement, history is repeating itself. Earlier I said the following:

“Seriously, the fact is what we are seeing in this scum bag of a President is the culmination of an Anti-American ideals campaign which this disdainful clown, his wife, the members of his administration and sadly far to many elected leaders of both parties not only openly embrace, but will in fact lie and I honestly feel go so far as to kill ( I say this with dread, because I do believe this moron would shoot the American people to achieve his ends. Again, my opinion, but I do believe it) if needed to keep their power.” History is repeating itself as I said and if one thinks for one moment any corrupt leader is beneath such actions then they are in fact beyond brain dead. As I also said earlier among other things:

“As our Freedom of Speech is being taken from us, as our rights to define our own destinies and so forth are being replaced by “Obamaspeak” and “Obamathink” I prefer to stand up to the 1984 and worse attitude of the cancer that is Barak Obama! Of course, I could go on, but you get the drift.”

This is in fact happening. Gerry notes the “civilian security force” Obama mentioned. That was in fact the same premise that led to the Gestapo and SS. But of course, seeing history is rewritten or not taught anymore, mind dead liberals don’t get this, but it did happen and will again!

I really wonder sometimes exactly what it takes to get through to indoctrinated morons of either side. In this case, if there are 500 murders committed against blacks and 94% are in fact committed by blacks, it is racist to point out that fact. I one wants to ask why the Muslim piece of scum “Major Hassan” has not been tried and executed yet, we are Islamaphobic. Yet Americans died and this government is protecting this piece of scum. The knockout game. Years of stories of this going on yet once a copy cat white guy does it, he gets charged with a hate crime. Shouldn’t the numerous reportings the other way also be treated as hate crimes? Selective enforcement, always part of a coming dictatorial government. Think I’m wrong. history says I’m not!

Early on in this thread, Redteam said in reply to me “call a spade a spade”. He is 100% correct, but one must not forget that old term for in effect saying state the fact and call it like it is is now racist and therefore not free speech. Why is that? Why has this country chosen in so many cases tothrow away their basic right to free speech and allow the though police to dictate their thought. and that is exactly what is happening! historically this leads to the Hitler and Stalins of the world. You crybaby lefties can carp all you want about this but it is historical fact! As long as I and hopefully others are alive we will hopefully live by fact and preach out against the tyranny that is coming as I said earlier.

In the past, I’ve mentioned our good friend Kruschev at the U.N. in the 60’s. “We will bury you! We will bury you from within!” Many have posted here to that very premise. It is real and it is happening! Comparisons based on history should in fact be a lesson. Drjohn and others are dead on!

As for the President and his lackeys who are against dissent and so forth, they can kiss my ass! As I also said earlier. The law of the land is still in effect and I really don’t give a damn what anyone thinks of what I say. They just don’t have to listen or can choose to ignore it. But I will continue voicing my FREE opinions. When someone like a Senator Feinstein decree Free Speech is a Privilege and not a Right, one can only assume the worst is yet to come. Folks better take heed now. Total dictatorial tyranny is right around the corner, and the comparison to Hitler of our sad sack leader is peanuts compared to what the future holds if we the people keep our heads in the sand rather than stand up for our rights and our country.
This isn’t a joke anymore. It’s not just things playing our naturally as they should. There is definitely a course being taken by this President and his followers that is destroying the fabric of this country. And like Hitler, he, Reid, Pelosi and so many others have purposely split the country to foment the revolution they want which is a hard core, deeply controlled leftist society complete with the mind control and so forth that entails. Again, history is repeating itself Will we stop it?

retire05
he just wreck the JOHN STEWART COMMENT, he made it mince meat to accomodate,
his LACK OF COMPREHENSION, no wander he and his same, vote for this destructive socialist
agenda, which will self destruct,

Obama blames the rich for the financial problems in the USA.
Obama blames the republicans for the sequester.
Obama blames the republicans for the health care fiasco.
Obama blames Bush for everything else.
Hitler blamed the Jews, the Catholics, the Gypsys, etc. for all the troubles in Germany in the ’30s.
Fortunately, Obama and his regime is not (yet) strong enough to eliminate those scapegoats felt responsible for the problems in the USA.
Sadly we simply have to wait and see what happens while the unseeing left and those receiving gifts from the government continue to vote democratic!!

joetote
WE NEED THOSE COMMENTS MORE AND MORE, TO MAKE THE POINT,
SO THEY REALYSE THAT WE KOW THEIR INTENT, AND HAVE PERCIEVED THEIR ACTIONS,
BEST TO YOU

DrJohn
that”s why, there is the crack in the ground,
THEY ELECT FROM UNDERNEAT THE SOIL AND BECAUSE OF THE CRACK IN
THE SOIL ABSORBE THE FLOW OF WATER UNTIL THE FLOW RISE TO BECOME A TORRENT
KILLING ALL THE GOOD PLANTS BY DRAWNING THEM,
THEY SHOULD HAVE NOT VOTE FROM UNDERNEATH,
THEY SHOULD HAVE VOTE FOR ONE WHO LOOK TO THE SKY, HE HAS A BETTER CHANCE TO SEE A WIDER UNLIMITED SPACE TO FEED HIS MIND WITH THE BEST OF AMERICA CAN GIVE,
FROM ALL FOUR SIDES OF HER,
NOW INSTEAD IS DEATH MURDER, INSANITY, IGNORANCE, FEAR, LACK OF ONE’S OWN MONEY
AND MUCH ANGER BECAUSE INJUSTICE IS RAMPANT LIKE THE SNAKE COMING OUT OF THE SOAKEN SOIL
showing his two heads

now the secret is on the open,
a single payer system spoken loud as it can be,
they fool the people again,

@DrJohn:

I gave you concrete examples of their similarities and you have studiously avoided discussing them.

I didn’t avoid them. I dismissed them as woefully irrelevant. Your personal observations on their respective “styles” based on watching Youtube videos are not facts. Facts are the things you’ve ignored, such as the Night of the Long Knives, Kristallnacht , the Second World War, the murder of six million Jews. The things that make Hitler “Hitler” . The reasons you know who he is in the first place.

@DrJohn:

Indeed. As I said, Hitler wasn’t always Hitler. He started small

Talk about desperation. How far do you need to go back to make it work exactly? Why not go back even further. Hitler started as a fetus. Now you can literally compare anyone to Hitler.

@Gerry:

Fortunately, Obama and his regime is not (yet) strong enough to eliminate those scapegoats felt responsible for the problems in the USA.

Impressive list. So when you mention scapegoats, do you mean immigrants, people on unemployment and social programs, Muslims and gays? Whose scapegoats are those?

@Tom:

I didn’t avoid them. I dismissed them as woefully irrelevant. Your personal observations on their respective “styles” based on watching Youtube videos are not facts.

While your observations based on a late-night show comedian are valid?

Facts are the things you’ve ignored, such as the Night of the Long Knives, Kristallnacht , the Second World War, the murder of six million Jews. The things that make Hitler “Hitler” .

Hitler had quite a history, as a national leader, long prior to those events. That history is what Dr. John is talking about and you are too mentally challenged to understand.

@retire05: #81
You are dead on here as to exactly what Drjohn was referring to in his comparison. People tend to forget that Hitler with his charisma and leadership pulled a completely bankrupt country up by it’s bootstraps. Unfortunately what came after was abhorrent to say the least.

I mentioned above history. Part of history is one’s words and as I noted above, I read Obama’s books and have followed the actions of him and his ilk. Hitler actually hid much of his agenda but did in fact manufacture a villian, in his case the Jews while “saving Germany” from it’s bankruptcy. Obama and his ilk on the other hand have openly over the years espoused their Anti-America agenda and in turn in many cases have thrown out a vicious vitriol towards their political enemies.Again, I say this is how tyranny takes hold. Manufacture a boogeyman enemy, in the case now those of us who bust our asses to succeed and set them against the “poor helpless lazy I want it all given to me bastards who have been indoctrinated into the welfare mentality with false unsustainable promises.Then in turn, act against the boogeyman enemy in any way necessary to insure total control. And as I said, history shows this as fact.

@joetote: Joe–don’t you make your living facilitating gambling?
Let me know when BHO starts gassing millionaires. Under Obama the rich have been getting richer–ALL TIME HIGH STOCK MARKET—-and the poor??Well you know.

@Richard Wheeler:
How I make my living doesn’t mean a damn thing as far as my views. (BTW: No one is forced to gamble, be it horses, lottery or whatever. This inane bullshit that gambling is unfair to the poor is just that, Inane bullshit! I have no sympathy for supposedly so called adults who cannot or will not use common sense). I work my ass off at my chosen profession and am a success. That’s all that matters as to that.

Having said that, I state above, I do feel this President and others in our leadership would in fact fire upon the people if needed to force their way of thinking on us. I also state that is my opinion and belief. And as I also say above tyranny almost always starts benignly. Learn from history or perish!

You and others can take it for what it’s worth and quite honestly I don’t give one damn what anyone thinks of my opinions. In this country one needs to bust their ass to get succeed. As it is my experience the majority now feels handout is an entitlement rather than EARNING it, I don’t really have a lot of sympathy for those kind of folks. I and others do not owe anyone anything other than the equal right to succeed. That is how I live my life. I hire and fire on merit. I don’t give a damn about skin color or heritage. I don’t believe in quotas and the government bullshit that is supposedly equality! Sorry, that’s the way it is.

Earlier on in this thread, I mentioned the so called knockout game and the lack of charging as a hate crime against blacks. As shown below from the NY Daily News, the double standard exists. Could it be because the victims were Jewish? I have to ask because the assailant was in fact black. Where is the so called President of the people on this one? Oops, forgot. The racist in chief couldn’t possibly speak the truth against a possible voting block. Same pathetic shit!

A Brooklyn man was busted for a string of assaults against women that some have connected to the infamous “knockout game,” authorities said Friday.

Barry Baldwin, 35, was charged with five incidents in which Jewish women were viciously punched for no apparent reason.

“Everyone will sleep a little easier,” said Assemblyman Dov Hikind, who has been warning the community about the menace.

He was arraigned Monday on five assaults, none as a hate crime, according to court papers. Prosecutors didn’t comment on the reasons for the downgraded charges. (continue at New York Daily News)-

@retire05:

While your observations based on a late-night show comedian are valid?

If you disagree with the quote, why not explain why instead of putting on parade your ignorance of contemporary culture.

@Tom:

If you disagree with the quote, why not explain why instead of putting on parade your ignorance of contemporary culture.

Because I don’t consider a foul mouthed comedian a purveyor of facts, nor a broker of honesty. He simply goes for the laugh, even if it requires fabrication/distortion. And he seems to be assured of a steady crop of believers of simple minded, as you prove.

@retire05:

Hitler had quite a history, as a national leader, long prior to those events.

Really? I thought he walked off a space ship in 1938. And your point is… what? Apparently, you agree with DrJohn that that a young Hitler had some extremely general – and common to millions of people – traits in common with Obama , which means… what exactly? Obama and Hitler they both had egos (how rare!)! . This means…. what?? Is is all just about getting your jollies perhaps? People like you and DrJohn seem to really get quite a tingle calling Obama Hitler. I guess DrJ never thought anyone would actually ask him to explain what the hell he’s getting at. Unless someone explains the purpose of this muddled mess of a post, I’ll stick with that interpretation.

@retire05:

Wow, you’ve really put him in his place with your dusty old 19th Century school marm tsk tsking. Now we know engaging his words is too much to ask.

@Richard Wheeler:

Let me know when BHO starts gassing millionaires. Under Obama the rich have been getting richer–

Ah, something else in common with Hitler. Didn’t the superrich jews in Germany thrive under Hitler?

@Tom:

I thought he walked off a space ship in 1938.

Why am I not surprised?

@Redteam:

And don’t forget Hitler’s reason behind gun control laws; It was for the children.

@Redteam: I’ll buy into your B.S. when Obama starts executing the rich–or anyone else for that matter.
Joe Tote thinks he’ll fire on citizens.
” Jews got richer and thrived under Hitler” LOL

You guys crack me up.

@Richard Wheeler:

” Jews got richer and thrived under Hitler” LOL

Put that one in the Redteam hall of fame. Jeez, you here some of these people talk about Hitler like he was this great guy who just went wrong and you have to wonder.

@Richard Wheeler:RW, you have this in quotes:

” Jews got richer and thrived under Hitler” LOL

want to tell us who said it and who you are quoting and where you lifted the quote from? Did you perhaps make this up?

: I’ll buy into your B.S. when Obama starts executing the rich

Wasn’t my point that Hitler ‘did not’ execute the super rich?

Geez, can’t you left coast libs read? Do you have to make up ‘everything’?

@Richard Wheeler: Rich Wheeler,

Again, that is my opinion. I honestly feel this President is not above doing such a thing. I honestly believe he is a hard core wanna be leftist dictator. I believe that with every bone in my body and pray I am wrong. but as I said earlier, tyranny begins benignly and quite honestly Hitler is one historical proof of that. As we have seen this President repeatedly break the laws he has sworn to uphold, how can one not feel that he is capable of much worse. He himself has openly stated along with his Dept. of Homeland Security that the enemy is all who stand against him.

@Redteam: Are you suggesting he didn’t execute “super rich” Jews. They got a pass?
You said “didn’t the super rich Jews in Germany thrive under Hitler?” You think?
You got a stand up routine to go with this?

“The U.S. government is trying to apprehend an al Qaeda terrorist wanted for his role in the 2012 Benghazi terrorist attack that killed four Americans.

The suspect, Muhammad Jamal, was imprisoned in Egypt last fall and in September was being held by the Egyptian government. His current whereabouts could not be confirmed, said U.S. officials who spoke on condition of anonymity. One official said Jamal remains in Egyptian custody, contrary to reports that he was in Yemen.

Jamal was labeled a designated terrorist by the United Nations Oct. 18, identifying him and the group he formed, the Muhammad Jamal Network, as linked to the Sept. 11, 2012, Benghazi attack.”

Ooooops.

@joetote:Joe -You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I’m encouraged to hear you are praying that you are wrong.

Who do you like FSU-8 vs Auburn?

@Richard Wheeler:
Rich, in the past we have always agreed in the end to disagree. That is why I love this site. When all is said and done we discuss and get on with our lives.

FSU by a large margin. I really don’t think Auburn has quite enough firepower.