Despite the assertion by Jay Carney as to how much improved is the Healthcare.gov website, it still sucks. There are two major problems plaguing it- it’s not really signing everyone up and there’s no security.
So you think you are signed up? Um, maybe not.
Bob Shlora of Alpharetta, Ga., was supposed to be a belated Obamacare success story. After weeks of trying, the 61-year-old told ABC News he fully enrolled in a new health insurance plan through the federal marketplace over the weekend, and received a Humana policy ID number to prove it.
But two days later, his insurer has no record of the transaction, Shlora said, even though his account on the government website indicates that he has a plan.
“I feel like this: My application was taken … by a bureaucrat, it was put on a conveyor belt and it’s still going around, and it’s never going to leave the building,” he said. “I’ve lost hope. If it happens, great.”
Obama administration officials acknowledged today that some of the roughly 126,000 Americans who completed the torturous online enrollment process in October and November might not be officially signed up with their selected issuer, even if the website has told them they are.
Technical problems surrounding the transfer of an applicant’s personal information from the federal marketplace to the selected insurance company have plagued the system since its launch, making it difficult for insurers to finalize some enrollments. The 834 forms that issuers receive from the system have been riddled with errors, including often duplicate or incomplete information.
While the front-end of the website has been vastly improved, the back-end glitches remain a serious concern, IT experts and industry officials say.
“Until the enrollment process is working from end-to-end, many consumers will not be able to enroll in coverage,” said Karen Ignani, president and CEO of America’s Health Insurance Plans. “In addition to fixing the technical problems with healthcare.gov, the significant ‘backend’ issues must also be resolved to ensure that coverage can begin on Jan. 1, 2014.”
Apparently the Obama team’s solution to people not being able to sign up for coverage is allow to think they are covered when they are not. Many of those who sign up are in for a double whammy: not only might they not be signed up, the data they enter is not secure.
It could take a year to secure the risk of “high exposures” of personal information on the federal Obamacare online exchange, a cybersecurity expert told CNBC on Monday.
“When you develop a website, you develop it with security in mind. And it doesn’t appear to have happened this time,” said David Kennedy, a so-called “white hat” hacker who tests online security by breaching websites. He testified on Capitol Hill about the flaws of HealthCare.gov last week.
“It’s really hard to go back and fix the security around it because security wasn’t built into it,” said Kennedy, chief executive of TrustedSec. “We’re talking multiple months to over a year to at least address some of the critical-to-high exposures on the website itself.”
According to the Department of Health and Human Services, which oversaw the implementation of the website, the components used to build the site are compliant with standards set by Federal security authorities.
“The privacy and security of consumers’ personal information are a top priority for us. Security testing happens on an ongoing basis using industry best practices to appropriately safeguard consumers’ personal information,” said the spokesperson.
Another online security expert—who spoke at last week’s House hearing and then on CNBC—said the federal Obamacare website needs to be shut down and rebuilt from scratch. Morgan Wright, CEO of Crowd Sourced Investigations said: “There’s not a plan to fix this that meets the sniff test of being reasonable.”
The Obama regime claims that the website is working “for most people.”
The headlines are a bit conflicting: “Obama Administration Says the Health Care Website Is Vastly Improved,” vs. “Insurers Claim Health Website Is Still Flawed.”
So obviously it depends on your definition of the word “working.”
The Obama regime is so confident about the website that it is offering US taxpayer dollars to bail out the losses insurers will suffer consequent to the failure of the regime to deliver on its promises.
WASHINGTON — The White House is offering more money to insurance companies as an incentive for them to let people keep insurance policies that were to have been canceled next year.
The administration floated several proposals on Monday to “help offset the loss in premium revenue and profit” that it said might occur if insurers went along with President Obama’s request to reinstate canceled policies.
Millions of people have received notices saying their policies were being canceled because they did not comply with minimum coverage requirements of the new health care law.
In a notice published Monday in the Federal Register, the administration acknowledged that insurers had a valid concern: They may be stuck with sicker, higher-cost customers in the new insurance exchanges because healthier Americans will stay on their existing health plans for another year.
Facing a political furor over the cancellation of insurance policies, Mr. Obama announced on Nov. 14 that he would temporarily waive some requirements of the new federal law and allow insurers to renew “current policies for current enrollees” for a year.
Insurers criticized the president’s move, saying it could upset the assumptions on which they had set premiums for new insurance products providing coverage in 2014.
Barack Obama has done virtually nothing but lie about Obamacare but we learn now that lying is now acceptable.
However, Granderson said the public can “live with” Obama’s lie: “Every president is going to lie to you. Every politician is going to lie to you. The question is, which lies can you live with?”
I’ll bet that such largesse would not be accorded a Republican, but that certainly could be tested in 2016.
A note for liberals: lying is frowned upon in the health care profession. How many lies from your doctor could you live with?
“Yes, your daughter is going to be just fine”
“Just ignore that chest and neck pain. I’m sure it’s nothing.”
Well, it would cut costs.
DrJohn has been a health care professional for more than 30 years. In addition to clinical practice he has done extensive research and has published widely with over 70 original articles and abstracts in the peer-reviewed literature. DrJohn is well known in his field and has lectured on every continent except for Antarctica. He has been married to the same wonderful lady for over 30 years and has three kids- two sons, both of whom are attorneys and one daughter on her way into the field of education.
DrJohn was brought up with the concept that one can do well if one is prepared to work hard but nothing in life is guaranteed.
Except for liberals being foolish.
DrJohn, you wrote:
Yes.
Let’s talk about the coming election.
But, let’s talk about the 2014 election, not the 2016 election.
TWELVE Senate Democrats up for reelection in 2014 are complicit in Obama’s lie.
They are on record making that same lie.
Sen. Mary Landrieu: http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2009/12/17/howard-dean-spars-with-mary-landrieu-on-health-care.html
Sen. Mark Pryor:
Sen. Kay Hagan:
Sen. Jeanne Shaheen:
Sen. Mark Begich: http://www.begich.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?p=PressReleases&ContentRecord_id=6d1172a0-ad18-4488-99fd-4c6a704d4b10&ContentType_id=ef710aa3-7e29-440a-b9de-316ee20df1b5
Sen. Mark Warner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmVHf_hm8_g&feature=player_embedded
And 6 more.
I hope the ads against each of them quote their lies.
If they knew better, then they lied on purpose.
If they believed Obama, they were too gullible to be in the Senate.
Either way, they all gotta go.
@Nanny G:
And they want to take your guns away
What the leftists are relying upon is the overwhelming apathy of the uninformed. The media plays along, allowing Obama and his mouthpieces to get away with increasingly outrageous lies.
Anyone who puts their personal information onto the healthcare.gov website is begging to become a victim of identity theft, AND to pay increased costs for much poorer medical care.
Obama and every dem who voted for obamacare should be put on trial for criminally negligent fraud, and sentenced to the maximum prison sentence allowed by law. This is well beyond incompetent now. This is absolutely criminal.
And another one bites the dust. I met my surgeon yesterday to plan my knee replacement surgery, and he informed me that mine will be one of the last he does.
He will be working as a corporate in-house physician next year..
I can’t go to the one who did the original repairs, as she is in New Zealand now.
That’s four doctors that I know who’ve stopped (public) practicing in the USA. Two left, one retired early, one is leaving public practice.
What kind of healthcare will we have without enough doctors to provide it?
The answer is pretty ugly.
@Petercat:
Yup….I am writing this from a hotel room in one of tbe three cities I have to work in because there are not enough doctors for the patient load. But somehow by socialist power grab and increasing everyone’s health insurance costs obamacare is magically going to give everyone “free” healthcare with fewer and fewer doctors.
Leftist logic at it’s finest
Let it go wingnut morons, it’s working well now and people are realizing they won’t have to die if they get sick when insurance companies drop them.
It’s modeled after RomneyCare and a plan devised years ago by The Heritage Foundation which Dole endorsed. You got nothing.
Report: Obamacare To Cost ‘Billions Of Dollars Less Than Originally Projected’
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/report-obamacare-to-cost-billions-of-dollars-less-than-originally-projected
The BS about Obamacare ‘Cancellations:’
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115542/obamacare-plan-cancellations-medicaid-expansion-and-media
The Fake Obamacare Site That Is Trying To Trick Californians http://thinkprogress.org/healt…
Here’s Why Obamacare Will Work:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/03/obamacare-urban-areas_n_4378531.html
@Pete: #5
I hate to give another doctor (you!) this hint, but my friend in New Zealand told me that if she’d known how nice it would be there for her, she’d have moved as soon as she graduated from med school. Plus, she regrets selling me some of her guns, as she can own them there. I scored a nice Python as well as some others…
@This one:
Since Romney care is basically funded via the federal government (meaning that people in Oklahoma are paying for Romneycare in Massachusetts), where does the federal government go to get their funding? China?
The Heritage Foundation took a good look at socialist medicine and saw the error of their ways.
Bob Dole? Now there’s a winner!!!!!! Like McCain and Romney.
This one, you are just too funny. Really, this one, if it wasn’t for leftwing websites, you would be mute.
“ACCESS DOES NOT GUARANTEE ACTUAL HEALTH CARE!”
Everybody guaranteed, not enough doctors willing to work at minimum wage. Plus throw in all the new paperwork and regulations. What a bureaucratic nightmare.
It is just as good as the rest of their societal fixes — the great society for everyone.
Like all liberal ideas it only has two flaws,
Glitches in their jargon.
1) You can’t afford it
2) It doesn’t work
Outside of that it’s great.
Lets see we increase demand, a lot more people on medicaid, and we decrease supply, fewer doctors, and somehow this is going to result in better health outcomes for people.
I guess the left doesn’t understand the laws of supply and demand.
At least it appears some are finally figuring this out as we see the drop in the presidents poll numbers.
I don’t think it gets better for Obama in 2014.
I guess we should try to look on one very small positive outcome from the obamacare nightmare….
People like This One will have all the birth control necessary to ensure that their inhere tly defective genes are not passed on.
It shouldn’t be a surprise that obamacare is the mess that it is. Look what happened to the USA when obama was put in charge of it.
obamacare is like a tire on a car. How many times do you patch a tire on YOUR car before you decide it is better to replace it?
The good thing about the obamacare mess is that even the devout liberals in congress are finding out that going along with EVERYTHING obama wants isn’t a good idea. They are jumping out of the pan of water. I wonder how long it will be before the devout followers of obama who post on this site will loose their insurance, or lose there doctor, or both. How long will they stay in the pan?
you will see a bunch of foreign students take on the work of obamacare as soon as they end this year,
getting Their certificat, just like all of them smart or stupid,
ready to work with the fees of the pack ‘s decisions,
and bringing no background know how, but carrying their book, telling the sick person,
okay give me a few minutes that to check what is recommanded in their books which
they picked up in a library cheap price for an outdated book on deseases, and how to cure it, cheaply,
so to obey the mantra ,dictated to them, save money for OBAMA,
“Bob Shlora of Alpharetta, Ga., was supposed to be a belated Obamacare success story. After weeks of trying, the 61-year-old told ABC News he fully enrolled in a new health insurance plan through the federal marketplace over the weekend, and received a Humana policy ID number to prove it.”
This is a bogus story (as with the rest of the Fox induced ObamaCare horror stories) the parents declared 3 children when the have in fact, four.
Boehner Gets Caught Hyping Another Completely False Obamacare ‘Horror’ Story
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/12/03/boehner-caught-hyping-completely-false-obamacare-horror-story.html
HealthCare.Gov Improvements Have Republicans Scrambling For New Obamacare Attacks
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/04/3018081/healthcaregov-improving-republicans-recycle-romneys-obamacare-attacks/
Insurance Commissioner Compares Pre-Existing Conditions To Car Wrecks: ‘It’s Your Fault’
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/12/04/3020831/georgia-insurance-commissioner-pre-existing-fault/
But I really hope the GOP keeps trying to attack it and repeal it. It will ensure the Dem will hold the WH until at least 2032.
@This one:
Now you’ve branched into comedy.
Amazing how people like you can ignore this mess and try to sell it’s all good.
P.T. Barnum would have loved you.
Clueless again you are.
@This one:
I’m going with ABC News over your garbage sites
@This one:
Some could be as many of 30%.
This regime admits it’s failing and you’re telling us it’s not real.
Astonishing.
@This one:
Here’s another one for StinkProgress to label a hoax!
http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/192109-cms-back-end-issues-persist-will-be-resolved
Dr John
the obamacare seem to want to conceal the amount of money coming in.
according to the created confusion they make so to not talk about it,
even how much it did cost obama so far for that website was hard to get,
and still costing ,and not even having paid for security<which again would cost a few millions more< according to very knowledgeble people,
who say: don't go there, it’s dangerous for your losing identity,
I HEARD THIS MORNING THAT HACKER TOOK THOUSANDS OF THOSE IDENTITY numbers,
from big companies who thought they had a thight security,
buy
@ilovebeeswarzone:
Bees if you have a link I’d love to read about it
Dr John
maybe if you click on FOX SITE,
i heard it from FOX channel on tv,
EVEN GOOGLE IS MENTIONED,
STRANGELY I had a strange thing happened to my laptop
very unusual at the same time too,
I COMMENT ON IT some other post CURT,
the voice from one app i didn’t know I have, start to talk in the middle of my typing my comment,
i freake up, and try to click to take it off , and other frame came out from my laptop,
and i finaly click on control panel and it’S the voice app,so i could exit it FINALY,
BUT it remain that he came in out of nowhere without me clicking on it, spelling the letters of what
i had type, and repeating it, over and over, MY NEW LAPTOP,
i reay thought i was hacked, maybe i was, who knows,
BYE
@This one:
Dude
I have another hoax for you from a really dodgy site:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/05/obamacare-enrollment_n_4384820.html?utm_hp_ref=business&ncid=webmail2
67% of internet ”shopping carts,” are abandoned.
http://baymard.com/lists/cart-abandonment-rate
Wish lists, window shopping.
But the mainstream media has joined a White House propaganda push to artificially inflate news of public demand for ObamaCare.
Obama changed the definition of “enrollee.”
“In the data that will be released … ‘enrollment’ will measure people who have filled out an application and selected a qualified health plan in the marketplace,” says an administration official, who requested anonymity to the WaPo. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/11/who-counts-as-an-obamacare-enrollee-the-obama-administration-settles-on-a-definition/
And the media played right along.
Actual insurers claim they only get 20% of those ”enrolled” to actually pay up.
http://www.ketknbc.com/news/obamacare-youre-not-insured-until-you-pay
But the media doesn’t care about that little wrinkle.
They heard and heeded the Obama DOG WHISTLE.
They have their knee pads on and are even ready to be thrown under the bus, if needed.
According to ObamaCare all VOLUNTEER Firefighters MUST be given medical coverage OR their departments MUST pay the penalty!
IF this stands, many areas will lose the Fire Departments they now have.
How many lives will THAT cost?
Of course, Obama can change law at will.
Maybe he will ”fix” this, too.
‘Don’t Worry About the Price Tag’ Song Wins Obamacare Video Contest
@DrJohn: #18
This one is proof that the propaganda media and democratic brainwashing is working on at least one person. Someone asked a crowd of people this question, “Who is going to continue believing the obamacare web site is working fine lie, even though obama told the truth when he said it was a lie?” A voice was heard in the crowd, saying, “This one does!”
What is so affordable about this? I’m 62 years old on social security $1229 per month….my wife has no income and I called Obamacare hotline today and the cheapest bronze plan was $800 per month…..are you kidding me!
And that was the cheapest plan with high deductibles and high out of pocket cost. The government is totally out of control….they can’t even manage their checkbook or social security and you think they can manage healthcare any better? NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Norman Risner: #28
A long time ago I figured out that what the democrats name a bill is the exact opposite of what it is, or the title has nothing to do with the actual intent of the bill. They name it something they know the people will like, and they also know that the propaganda media won’t tell what the bill is ACTUALLY about.
Norman Risner
they charge double for you, to pay for the illegals coming in the obamacare soon,
IT’S ALL CALCULATED, AND THE MILLIONS HE SPEND TO GET THE WEBSITE WORKING AND STILL PAYING FOR MORE GLITCHS [ WHERE DID THEY FIND THAT BUG’S NAME ? ]
HOW MUCH WILL IT BE NEXT YEAR?
BYE
Smorgasbord
HI,
do you think he will ever get rid of his damn penalty,
PENALTY HERE AND THERE AND EVERYWHERE, LA LA LA LALA
@ilovebeeswarzone: #31
He is going to do whatever congress allows him to do, which is whatever he wants. I still hope a bunch of military will run for congress.
Smorgasbord
yes it will take their discipline and gift of perception,
and know how to get rid of the enemy within,
they have those skills it’s in their nature and their military training,
i like that retire marine who made a video about the weapons and humvee,
he was there but he was on the people’side,
I read the government is thinking of studying TO EVALUATE
IF THEY STILL NEED THE MARINES,
THAT I READ JUST A FEW DAYS BEFORE HE SENT THE MARINES IN AFRICA, IF THEY KNEW THAT, THEY WOULD OPEN THEIR EYES ON HIM,
new edit, you see why the need is so important,
because it has to be adjust to the workforce civilians who so many work only 20 hours, mean that the government employees would be cut at 20 hours also,
as long as that problem exist, because now the balance is the government is heavyer of more than accepteble, more than fairness eating the people’s tax, while the people suffer,
BYE
I got up in the middle of the night to tell an idea which came out of nowhere,
here it is,
IT’S ABOUT THE POWER OF THE PEOPLE GIVEN TO THEM BY THE FRAMERS,
NOW, WHAT IF THE TEAPARTY round up a group to be doing a survey on the government, AND THEY WOULD REPRESENT THE PEOPLE ONLY OUTSIDE THOSE GOVERNING OFFICES,
as to evaluate the flaws and number of lawyers and employees in every agency created by OBAMA,
AS WHELL AS THE IRS AGENCY EMPLOYEES BY NUMBER BASE ON THE WORK DEMAND, IN ALL CORNER WHERE THERE IS EMPLOYEES, ON ALL DIFFERENT OFFICES, AND TAKE ACCOUNT OF THE SURPLUS
NOT NEEDED, AS WELL AS SECURITY EMPLOYEES, AND KITCHEN EMPLOYEES, THE WHOLE SURPLUS TO LET GO, THAT WOULD PAY A BIG CHUNK OF THE 7 TRILLION RIGHT THERE,
AND DONE BY NO ELECT ONE, JUST THE TEAPARTY GROUP, THEY WOULD BE GREAT AT IT,
BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW TO MAKE A BUDGET AND SMALL OR BIG IS NO DIFFERENCE IF YOU FOLLOW THE BASIC, THAT WOULD BE PUBLICLY TOLD THE CITIZENS, AND BEFORE THE NEXT ELECTION, THEY WOULD REALLY EARN THAT MONEY, AND THE TIME LIMIT IS WHEN THEY ARE DONE, THAT IS A GREAT NEED TO DO, AND NEVER DONE BEFORE THOROUGHLY,
NOT LIKE THE TEAPARTY WOULD DO,
THAT GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME A STATE BY ITSELF AND ONLY SERVE ITSELF ON THE MONEY OF THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE,
WHO URGENTLY NEED TO KNOW WHERE THEIR MONEY GO,
AND RIGHTFULLY SO,
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: #34
The problem with your idea is that congress still makes the laws, and they aren’t going to change the laws that they worked for many years to have them the way they want them. Also, as long as the politicians have to take someone else’s money to campaign, the ones with the money will still get what they want.
The only way I can see any changes are if new people run for office, and they sign a contract with the people saying what they will and won’t do when in office. One thing I would like them to agree to is that each politician will have to vote to keep, reduce, or eliminate every federal agency, department, committee, etc., during each of their terms. This way the politicians will find out just how many of them there are, and WE THE PEOPLE will find out what ones they want to keep, and why.
Smorgasbord
YES YOU MAKE A LOT OF SENSE,
BUT I REMIND YOU THAT MY IDEA REQUIRE ONLY NOT A LAW,
BUT A GGOD WILL FROM THE ELECTED TO AGGREE ON A SURVEY DONE BY THE PEOPLE which have rights enumerated in the CONSTITUTION AND TO BE REPRESENTING THE REST OF THE CITIZENS TO FORM A GROUP TO GET THERE TO EVALUATE THE BASIC NEED OF THE ELECTED TO FONCTION ACCORDING TO WHY THEY ARE THERE FOR, NOT WHAT THEY ASPIRE TO GAIN FROM THE OPORTUNITY TO BE ELECTED, AND LEAVE THEM THE TOOL THEY NEED BUT TAKE AWAY THOSE WHO HAS BEEN HIRED FOR BEING IN THE PARTY’S PANTS, AND NO OTHER ATTRIBUTES BUT A BIG IMPRESSIVE TITLE, TO ELEVATE THEM FROM NOTHING TO NOTHING WITH A HAT,
AS THEY SAY IN OTHER THING, ONE HAS TO ENVISIONE THE IDEA THEY WANT TO APPLY,
AND I LEARNED TO PRACTICE THAT, I SEE MY IDEA TO BE PROFITABLE FOR THE PEOPLE OUTSIDE
THEIR ELECTED CONFORTABLE SEAT, IT’S AN IDEA WHICH WOULD BE A RENEWAL OF THE REAL
GOVERNMENT WHICH HAS BEEN CREATE BY THE SMART FRAMERS AND LAST CENTURIES, AND NOW THEY WANT TO SHRED IT TEAR IT , TO INSTALL THEIR COMUNIST INTENT THAT ALL MUST HAVE THE SAME MONEY TO SPEND, IF ONE IS A DUMMY OR THE BRIGHTEST BRAIN PUT TOGETHER ON THE SAME LEVEL, IS WHAT THEY WANT, AND THAT’S WHY HITLER TRY TO EXTERMINATE THE JEWS BECAUSE HE SAW HOW THEY WHERE SUPERIOR TO HIM IN INTELLIGENCE, HE COULD NOT BARE IT,
IRAN IS THE SAME ARROGANT MIND NOT TOLERATING ONE COUNTRY BEING SMARTER THAN THEY ARE, AND FROM THE BEGINING OF TIME OF THE CREATION, THE FALLEN ANGEL WHO TRY TO OUTSMART HIS CREATOR, AND CAIN KILLING ABEL FOR THE SAME DEEP FEELING,
WE ALL KNOW THE BRIGHT PEOPLE ARE BEING OSTRESIZE BY IGNORANT WHO THEMSELVES
USE OTHER IGNORANTS ONLY TO KEEP THEIR GIVEN POWER,
i’m talking of the same thing big entreprize do on a numerous time chosen when they see abuse and waste,
THE GOVERNMENT DOESN’T DO IT SO THE PEOPLE IS THEIR RIGHT TO OVERSEE THE WASTE ON THEIR HARD EARN MONEY,
BYE
@ilovebeeswarzone: #36
Send your idea to the Tea Party Patriots.
http://support.teapartypatriots.org/customer/portal/emails/new
Smorgasbord
i”L LET YOU DO THAT IF YOU WANT,
I MISS SOME KNOWLEDGE ON THIS SUBJECT.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING IT THE VALUE I SEE IN IT,
WISH YOU GOOD HOLLYDAYS TIMES, AND GIVE MY BEST WISHES,
TO THE BRILLIANT PEOPLE OF THE TEA PARTY
BYE
this “health care” is crap because the people that run it and all the way down are a gathering of the stupidest on earth just look and listen to them