17 Nov

Oprah: white people need to die

                                       

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It’s almost sad to see the decline of Oprah Winfrey. Almost. Winfrey is not content to luxuriate in the billions of dollars racist white America has given her. She feels compelled to come to the aid of the inept and dishonest Barack Obama, trashing whites who are critical of Obama as racists. But that’s not enough.

She wants them to die.

Oprah, promoting a movie, tells the BBC:

“There’s a level of disrespect for the office that occurs. And that occurs in some cases and maybe even many cases because he’s African American. There’s no question about that and it’s the kind of thing nobody ever says but everybody’s thinking it.”

There’s no question about it. Everybody’s thinking about it. It’s not that he’s a liar. It’s not that he’s incompetent. It’s only because he’s black.

And the solution for this endemic racism is white people need to die.

GOMPERTZ: Are you saying problem solved?

WINFREY: I’m saying problem not solved. I’m saying that, you know, that’s the beauty of a film like “The Butler,” and it’s the beauty of a film like “12 Years a Slave,” and it’s the beauty of what we’re seeing on stage with “Scottsboro Boys” is that it allows people to see where the root of the problem started. It allows people to see, “Oh, that’s where it all started, this is how far we’ve come, and now this is how much farther we need to go.” Of course problem is not solved. You know, as long as people can be judged by the color of their skin, problem’s not solved. As long as there are people who still, there’s a whole generation – I say this, you know, I said this, you know, for apartheid South Africa, I said this for my own, you know, community in the south – there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die.

Noel Sheppard points out the obvious:

What Winfrey conveniently ignores is that she endorsed and campaigned for Obama BECAUSE he was an African-American. He wouldn’t have gotten her support or been elected if he wasn’t.

As we have noted previously, Oprah herself has a brush with racism with each new movie release.

Victor Davis Hanson notes Oprah’s short memory, hypocrisy and moral decline:

I don’t recall Oprah objecting when Bush was routinely shouted down. Did she deplore Al Gore calling the Bush team “digital brownshirts”? Or maybe John Glenn invoking the Nazis (“It’s the old Hitler business”) to talk about her president? Nor do I remember her weighing in on Linda Ronstadt’s claim that the Bush administration was “a new bunch of Hitlers.” Harry Belafonte and Julian Bond both routinely labeled their conservative opponents as little more than Nazis or KKK racists. Nor did Oprah note that “there’s a level of disrespect for the office that occurs” when Barbra Streisand compared Bush to Hermann Goering. Was she worried when Alfred A. Knopf published a novel about musing how to kill Bush? Or by a prize-winning docudrama film imagining the killing of Bush? What was her reaction a New York play, “I’m Gonna Kill the President,” was produced? Did Oprah once give a similar BBC interview about the office of the president and disrespect shown it in 2004 when a guest columnist in the Guardian, Charles Brooker, wrote: “On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod’s law dictates he’ll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. — where are you now that we need you?”

What might explain her outrage now about criticism shown Obama, but silence just recently when abject hatred and dreams of violence were voiced against her president? That answer may explain a lot about what Oprah has become.

Oprah wants white people to die. There’s no question about that and it’s the kind of thing nobody ever says but everybody’s thinking it

If Oprah really wants to see what disrespect for a President looks like, she can go here.

And that’s just for starters.

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290 Responses to Oprah: white people need to die

  1. Richard Wheeler says: 151

    @retire05: I’m happy to bring in Aqua at anytime. Although this time he brought himself in to question RT.
    You bring in RT—That is sad.

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  2. Greg
    ON 131
    YOU MENTIONED GEORGE ZIMMERMAN WITH ARROGANCE,
    did you ever think that all those head bashing by his attacker, could be the reason why,
    AND after the multiple head bashing , surely there are sequelles in his brain and it’ s probably come when he is
    confronted with a YELLING wife SHOKING ANY MAN, AROUND, and later a girlfriend who are too ignorant to think that he might need to be left in peace not in a war argument when things fly all over, and triggering his reaction to defend himself if he feel threatened by those two woman one after the other, he sure should leave woman out of his life for quite a while, because he seem attrackted by the same kind who yell at their man, and awayken the beast in every man ,
    i think he should try to stick with his close family and seek knowledge on a possible condition he end up with the bashing multiple times at the same place which one who don;t think of sequels is an ignorant jerk
    BY ACCUSING HIM AT THE FIRST PUBLIC NOTATION,

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  3. Aqua says: 153

    @Redteam:

    I don’t think you should post such comments…

    It was block quoted. I’ve been called a prairie n***er on more than one occasion. I don’t need to ask anyone how it feels.
    You brought it up and said the posts were subject to interpretation.
    Racism still exists and most likely will for a long time. But things are better in this country and getting better all the time, regardless of what the politicians and race hustlers say.

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  4. Richard Wheeler
    WHAT KIND OF GAME ARE YOU PLAYING HERE?
    IS IT TO DEMONIZE ANOTHER BRAVE WHO SERVED JUST LIKE YOU,
    THAT WOULD BE SHAMELESS OF YOU, YES?

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  5. Richard Wheeler says: 155

    @ilovebeeswarzone: You don’t understand the meaning of “fellow traveler” RT is accusing me of being a Communist–comprenez?
    He’s got a crude mouth.

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  6. the COMMANDER IN CHIEF , is or has made a letter to KARSEI AFGHANISTAN to apologize for the
    AMERICAN TROOPS,, HE WANT TO LEAVE SOME MILITARY THERE AFTER THE TROOPD COME BACK,
    DOESN’T HE SAW ENOUGH OF THOSE WARRIORS LOOSE LIMBS OR DIED,
    HE WOULD LEAVE THEM VULNERABLE AS A SMALL NUMBER, AND WHITHOUT SUPPORT,
    FROM ANY ONE ELSE IF THE AFGHANS DECIDE TO RIOTS AND GET ON A KILLING SPREE,
    ON THOSE FEWER TROOPS, AT THE MERCI OF THE RIOTERS, THIRSTY FOR BLOOD,
    INCITED BY THE ALQAEDAS,
    THE TROOPS SHOULD ALL GET OUT OF THERE TOGETHER,
    OR OBAMA WILL CARRY THE OTHER LAST RESPONSIBILITY , IF ANY OF THEM LEFT BEHIND GET CHOPPED OF
    OR KILLED IN THERE,

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  7. retire05 says: 157

    @Richard Wheeler:

    You bring in RT—That is sad.

    How so?

    What is sad is you not knowing the difference between making a comment and trying to drag someone into the mix to indicate they are supportive of your opinion.

    Seems you wasted a lot of money on that Ivy League education. Or was it paid for by the taxpayers?

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  8. Richard Wheeler
    YOU DON’T LIKE IT TO BE DONE TO YOU,
    DON’T DO IT TO OTHER,
    SIMPLE AS THAT,

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  9. Richard Wheeler says: 159

    @retire05: Aqua came in on his own to support my opinion–do you have a problem with Aqua doing that?
    Even you have commented on the stupidity of RT’S comments.

    Family money, a regents scholorship and my summertime factory jobs paid for my education.

    Why do you think RT is ashamed to say where he got his”two degrees.”

    Bees You don’t get it. I understand.

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  10. i WONDER WHAT OPRAH WILL THINK OF THE YOUNG BLACK ATTACKING THE WHITES ON THE STREET, THE LATEST TREND IS PUNCH ON THE FACE AND THROW THEM DOWN,’
    IT’S BEEN DONE EVERY DAY BY THOSE GROUPS LATELY, AND WE SEE IT FOR THE FIRST TIME,
    WHAT A BUNCH OF COWARDS TO ATTACK LIKE IT ON UNEXPECTED LAW ABIDING CITIZENS,
    i HOPE THE OFFICERS OF THE LAW, PUT THEM AWAY FOR GOOD,
    OH THAT IS DAMN RACIST, AND HURTING,
    THEY SHOULD GET IT DONE TO THEM,

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  11. Smorgasbord says: 161

    @Aqua: One suggestion I have to anyone called the gutter term for their ethnicity is to politely answer them, “It’s not my fault I was born the wrong color. I wasn’t given a choice.” That will at least keep them quiet for a few seconds while they try to figure out how to answer the comment.

    QUESTION OF THE DAY
    If racism were eliminated, how many people would loose their jobs?

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  12. retire05 says: 162

    @Richard Wheeler:

    @retire05: Aqua came in on his own to support my opinion–do you have a problem with Aqua doing that?

    Absolutely not. I fully support his First Amendment rights.

    Even you have commented on the stupidity of RT’S comments.

    Provide link……………………or retract.

    Family money, a regents scholorship and my summertime factory jobs paid for my education.

    Money wasted is money never regained. And I believe the word is scholarship.

    Why do you think RT is ashamed to say where he got his”two degrees.”

    Don’t think he is. Perhaps he just thinks it is none of your business and a moot point. Not everyone suffers from braggadocio like you do.

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  13. Richard Wheeler says: 163

    @retire05: You don’t remember telling RT ” When you’re wrong you are really wrong?” That.s O.K. He’s one of your few allies. He’s got the mouth of a sailor. What’s your excuse?

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  14. Aqua says: 164

    @Smorgasbord:

    One suggestion I have to anyone called the gutter term for their ethnicity is to politely answer them, “It’s not my fault I was born the wrong color. I wasn’t given a choice.”

    I find that if you laugh and make it your own, you take away their power. And as far as I know, I wasn’t born the wrong color……..God doesn’t make mistakes.

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  15. Smorgasbord says: 165

    @Aqua: #164

    And as far as I know, I wasn’t born the wrong color….

    If someone is directing racist remarks at you, they figure YOU were born the wrong color. I grew up in small town USA, and never had any racism directed at me, and never heard any directed at anybody in the towns I lived in. The few non-whites are just more small-town people. My bicycle and ATV are parked in front of my apartment building, and they are ALWAYS there the next day. I’ll take small-town non-racist small town living over big city, racist, crime, high taxes, living any day.

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  16. retire05 says: 166

    @Richard Wheeler:

    @retire05: You don’t remember telling RT ” When you’re wrong you are really wrong?”

    Gotta link?

    That.s O.K. He’s one of your few allies.

    Want to give me a link to that survey? Or is that just another one of your ASSumptions?

    He’s got the mouth of a sailor.

    Too bad you don’t have the honor of a Marine.

    What’s your excuse?

    Excuse for what? Not tolerating socialist progressives like you when you are trying to spin the truth? If that what you are looking for an excuse for, I stand guilty as charged.

    What’s your excuse for never wanting to stick to the issues you drag up and constantly veering off in other directions? Perhaps you should get one of those people here that you seem to think makes up the Richard Wheeler Fan Club to get you a mental GPS system.

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    it expire,
    now is the last chance the powerball of 16 nillions,
    check it now
    2, 6, 19, 21 [not sure], 25, and i miss the last number,

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  18. Redteam says: 168

    @Richard Wheeler:

    He’s got the mouth of a sailor.

    RW, that’s the 2nd time recently you’ve made derogatory statements about the US Military. I wish you would refrain from running military services down. It doesn’t impress very many.

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  19. Redteam says: 169

    @Richard Wheeler:

    re education—see you found use for my cracker jacks ref.

    That’s actually the 2nd time. I said previously that they weren’t putting them in cracker jack boxes when I got mine, but that they figured out if they printed them on toilet paper, such as yours, they would fit nicely in cracker jack boxes. I still don’t know if the toilet paper was used prior to printing at your school.

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  20. Redteam says: 170

    @retire05:

    A speech will be given on the bigoted use of “clown” at the upcoming WCA convention.

    Retire, remember where I said that racists are the ones that point out racism. Well, the same could be said about clowns. I don’t even know how Rich discovered that I’m a clown.

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  21. Redteam says: 171

    @Aqua:

    It was block quoted.

    Yes it was, but it doesn’t mean anything different in block quotes than it did in the original format. I think if that statement is that objectionable, it is still that objectionable. Just putting quotation marks around it doesn’t improve the statement. But, I don’t personally care if the statement is here or not. I agree with your statement about racism:

    Racism still exists and most likely will for a long time.

    That will likely be true until the racists, such as Jackson, Sharpton, Oprah, etc stop making a living off of it. When it no longer serves their purpose they will likely let it die.

    I’ve been called a prairie n***er on more than one occasion.

    I was born and raised in Georgia and I have no clue what that means. Don’t think I ever heard that statement. I read the other day where someone said that all native Georgians call Atlanta—Alana. I’ve never heard it called that. The person that said it was not from Ga.

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  22. Richard Wheeler says: 172

    @RedteamFYI: Found your “fellow traveler” remark extremely offensive.
    You a swabbie, who during V.N war had no more to worry about than your air conditioning working. Accusing a Marine Corps Officer who fought the communists of being a communist? You’re not worth my time RT. Out.

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  23. Redteam says: 173

    @Richard Wheeler:

    You don’t understand the meaning of “fellow traveler” RT is accusing me of being a Communist–comprenez?

    Actually, that might not be necessary if you would clear it up. I’m not sure where most secular progressives are along the path. The word communism does not just define them at a single point it includes a huge crowd. It starts with liberal, progressive, secular progressive, socialist, etc. Most of those fit under a huge umbrella, you supply the name you prefer.

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  24. Redteam says: 174

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Why do you think RT is ashamed to say where he got his”two degrees.”

    I’m not. But it would only give you something to comment on and there is no reason to bring the school into it. But, since you know what kind of work I do, (clown) I figured that you also found out other things also. Are you going to tell us if the toilet paper had been used before printing?

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  25. Redteam says: 175

    @Richard Wheeler:

    You don’t remember telling RT ” When you’re wrong you are really wrong?”

    this is what you asked:

    Even you have commented on the stupidity of RT’S comments.

    Where is the mention of stupidity in her question? RW, you sure lose track, don’t you?

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  26. Redteam says: 176

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Accusing a Marine Corps Officer

    that would be ‘former’, I imagine.

    had no more to worry about than your air conditioning working.

    Ask those poor souls that were lost in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire if they are more or less dead than those that were shot in the jungles. I served on the Forrestal, before the fire.

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  27. Aqua says: 177

    @Redteam:

    Yes it was, but it doesn’t mean anything different in block quotes than it did in the original format.

    Not the words, I agree, but the intent.

    That will likely be true until the racists, such as Jackson, Sharpton, Oprah, etc stop making a living off of it. When it no longer serves their purpose they will likely let it die

    While I’ll agree that they are a problem, they aren’t the only problem. There are plenty of people out there that are die-hard racists. The Aryan Nation isn’t going to go away because the Rev. Jackson disappears. Skinheads aren’t going to pack up their hate and move to social harmony when Sharpton passes on.

    I was born and raised in Georgia and I have no clue what that means.

    It’s a racial slur for American Indians. Andrew Jackson made sure the people of Georgia no longer had to worry about American Indians in 1832. God bless the democratic party and the jack-ass himself.

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  28. Redteam says: 178

    @Aqua:

    There are plenty of people out there that are die-hard racists. The Aryan Nation isn’t going to go away because the Rev. Jackson disappears.

    I agree with that statement. I don’t study the Aryan Nation, so don’t know all their problems and who their targets are, but I suspect if everyone that is targeted today went away, they would just find ‘another’ target. If, what I understand about Germany is correct, they started with one target, such as mentally defective children, and once they got rid of those, moved on to the next target, then the next. I suspect hate groups, in general, work that way.

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  29. Nan G says: 179

    Gee, who knew?
    There are multiple ways of disparaging people.
    Oprah went further than that, however.
    She didn’t simply call white people a name.
    She called for their deaths.
    They ”need to die”, she said.
    Obama is beyond strangely silent on this.
    He gave her an award today.
    He has not once (correct me if I’m wrong) said one word to stop the game black people are playing called ”polar bear hunting.”
    A black person sees a good white person target and goes over to that person (often from behind) and strikes them as hard as possible.
    The goal is to knock out the white person in the one punch.
    Four white people have been killed from that ”game.”

    Years ago Oprah was sued by the state of Texas for disparaging beef.
    She said on her TV show that she would never eat beef again.
    Texas won that case.
    Disparaging someone or something does not cause DEATH.
    Dog whistling the idea to kill someone should be a disqualifier for an award.

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  30. retire05 says: 180

    @Aqua:

    I’ve been called a prairie n***er on more than one occasion.

    It’s a racial slur for American Indians.

    Really? Because I, also, have never heard that term before. Are you telling us you are an American Indian, Aqua? Or are you just one of these people who claim that their great-grandmother was a Cherokee princess? You know, like Elizabeth Warren who continues to claim Native American heritage although that claim has been totally debunked by the Cherokees themselves?

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  31. Nan G
    HI, IT CROSS MY MIND THAT OPRAH ‘S WORDS HAD AN IMPACT ON THOSE YOUNG BLACKS,
    SAME AS THE GEORGE ZIMMERMAN ACQUITAL SPEECHS FROM THE SHARPTON AND ALIKE,
    THAT KNOCKOUT GAME SPROUT OUT SUDDENLY, LIKE SOMEONE LIGH A FIRE UNDERNEAT THE ASHES WHICH WAS NOT SEEN UNTIL IT START TO BE IN OUR FACES,

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  32. Redteam says: 182

    @Aqua:

    It’s a racial slur for American Indians. Andrew Jackson made sure the people of Georgia no longer had to worry about American Indians in 1832.

    I’m still confused about the use of this word in Georgia where, as you say, there aren’t any American Indians (I didn’t know that all of them were eliminated in 1832). What race is the persons that are using the term? It seems as if American Indians don’t even want to be called that any more. I guess everyone has their feelings spread out all around themselves hoping someone will step on them so that they can be offended. Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone referred to Americans as Americans instead of having to add some descriptive word before it, such as Russian-American, Canadian American, etc. It’s like they want to be considered a separate group.

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  33. Redteam says: 183

    @Richard Wheeler:

    You’re not worth my time RT. Out.

    Uh oh, I hurt Rich’s feelings. He’s taking his toys and going home. Funny how a person of a political persuasion hates it when a label is put on that persuasion. I’ll bet those persons that McCarthy labeled hated that also.

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  34. Smorgasbord says: 184

    @Redteam: #182

    Wouldn’t it be nice if everyone referred to Americans as Americans instead of having to add some descriptive word before it, such as Russian-American, Canadian American, etc.

    This question has come up often over the years. Even some blacks have said that they are not African-American: They are American. With my family coming from several countries, I guess that would make me a Mutt-American.

    My suggestion to the blacks who don’t want to be called blacks is to get together through their organizations and come up with a name they are content with. If I were a black person, I wouldn’t want to be called black. It would remind me of the white/black separation of years ago. If they can come up with a name that the majority of them are content with, I will use that term from then on.

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  35. Redteam says: 185

    @Smorgasbord:

    If they can come up with a name that the majority of them are content with, I will use that term from then on

    I would rather just be referred to as American, I wish they would also. It would make it a lot easier.

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  36. Richard Wheeler says: 186

    @Redteam: The people McCarthy falsely accused and slandered didn’t like it much.
    McCarthy was censured by the Senate ( Repubs. and Dems.) and within a few years was dead from hepatitis-a discredited, lonely drunk. Dead at 57.
    Karma’s a bitch.

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  37. Smorgasbord
    HOW ABOUT THEY ARE CALLED AMERICANS, YOU ARE SO RIGHT, THIS IS AMERICA,
    AND THE PEOPLE SHOULD BE PROUD AMERICANS PERIOD,

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  38. retire05 says: 188

    @Richard Wheeler:

    Who did McCarthy falsely accuse?

    Never mind that the claim that McCarthy was a drunk was started by none other than a aide to LBJ. Ummm, wonder why?

    And JFK was a drug junkie. Does that mean that you have no respect for him?

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  39. Redteam says: 189

    @Richard Wheeler:

    The people McCarthy falsely accused and slandered didn’t like it much.

    this is a non-existent class, there are no members. you’ve said the same thing before but have never been able to provide one ‘falsely’ accused person. They were all current or past members.

    lonely drunk

    what is your evidence that he was lonely?

    McCarthy was censured by the Senate

    the censure of McCarthy had nothing to do with the Senate hearings about communists. You resent being called what you are but have no problems spreading deliberate lies about McCarthy.

    Karma/bitch sound familiar?

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  40. Redteam says: 190

    @retire05:

    Who did McCarthy falsely accuse?

    I don’t know why the lefties like to pick on McCarthy, he’s dead. I guess they must think he is like a dimocrat and still voting in every election. Being dead is not a hindrance for dims getting the voters out for their candidates. All of the lefties like to say McCarthy yada yada but they can’t produce any name that was falsely accused and they can’t believe that the censure of him had nothing to do with the Communist hearings. It was only on some minor technical issue. I understand that the lefties don’t like the fact that the greatest infiltration of communists into the inner government was allowed, aided and abetted by the Dimocrats of the FDR admin. Old Harry started throwing them out as soon as he got in. (and lo and behold, he was a dimocrat also, just a little smarter than to get caught being supported by the commies.) The second largest advancement toward socialism/communism is now taking place.

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  41. Richard Wheeler says: 191

    @Redteam: You seem to think any jackass like McCarthy or you can accuse people of being something abhorrent and the burden of proof is on the accused to prove the jackass wrong. You got it ass backwards RT. In this country the burden of proof is on the accuser (the jackass)

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  42. retire05 says: 192

    @Redteam:

    If the left is good at anything, it is rewriting history.

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  43. retire05 says: 193

    @Richard Wheeler:

    You seem to think any jackass like McCarthy or you can accuse people of being something abhorrent and the burden of proof is on the accused to prove the jackass wrong. You got it ass backwards RT. In this country the burden of proof is on the accuser (the jackass)

    And who did McCarthy accuse that was accused wrongly? Surely you have those names at your finger tips.

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  44. Richard Wheeler says: 194

    @retire05: He falsely accused many. Owen Lattimore, Harlow Shapely and Phillip Jessup for starters. The list is long and of course the families and associates of the accused came under scrutiny. McCARTHYISM–a witch hunt.

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  45. M Gibson says: 195

    If it were said in reverse. “Blacks need to die,” they were bred to play victim forever and are racists…oprah wouldn’t get it.

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  46. Greg says: 196

    @M Gibson, #195:

    You need to get it straight forward, before you try reversing it to make a point.

    As was noted all the way back in post #39, the meaning of what she said is actually this: Some people have been filled with racist ideas and racist perceptions throughout their entire lives. It’s what they grew up with, and it’s very unlikely that they can ever change. That sort of entrenched racism will pass only when the generation that carries it passes.

    It’s apparently more useful for the political right to understand her meaning as White people need to die. That’s not the meaning of what she said, however. Anyone who has no reading comprehension problems and bothers to read her own words should immediately understand that.

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  47. M Gibson says: 197

    You don’t need to rephrase to explain what oprah meant. She is an inciter of hate. We know what Oprah said.

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  48. Redteam says: 198

    @Richard Wheeler:

    @Redteam: You seem to think any jackass like McCarthy or you can accuse people of being something abhorrent and the burden of proof is on the accused to prove the jackass wrong.

    You’re confused Rich, as usual. He was a US Senator, not a District Attorney. He is/was entitled to bring up any subject he so desired on the Senate floor, or anywhere else he so chose. If he slandered someone, all they had to do was sue him and prove that he was wrong and collect some dough. Why didn’t any of them sue him for slander? Now, had he been a DA and pressed charges, THEN the burden would be on him to prove it. That’s how it is in the USA, as you should know.

    Owen Lattimore, Harlow Shapely and Phillip Jessup for starters.

    LOL, you’re still confused. Lattimore and Jessup were proven. Shapely was cut and dried.

    Lattimore was identified by U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy as a Communist and under Party discipline. Former Communist Party member Louis Budenz corroborated McCarthy’s claims and detailed how Lattimore had been of service to the Communist Party in the Amerasia case.

    http://www.conservapedia.com/Owen_Lattimore
    If that’s the best you can come up with, you can go ahead and throw in the towel. Many others have tried and haven’t come up with one false accusation. You won’t either.

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  49. Redteam says: 199

    @Greg:

    It’s apparently more useful for the political right to understand her meaning as White people need to die.

    So you’re saying what she really meant is that Black people need to die. Oh my….

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  50. Redteam says: 200

    RW, what do you think of the following quote?

    The question of methods seemed to come up only when subversives or spies were on the witness stand. And those who most loudly deplored McCarthy’s methods often resorted to the foulest methods themselves, including the use of lies, half-truths, and innuendos designed to stir up hysteria against him. What some people seemingly do not understand is that communists are evildoers and that those who give aid and comfort to communists – whether they are called dupes, fellow travelers, liberals, or progressives – are complicit in the evil and should be exposed and removed from positions of influence.

    http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/mccarth3.htm

    Sounds very familiar to me.

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