Oprah: white people need to die

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It’s almost sad to see the decline of Oprah Winfrey. Almost. Winfrey is not content to luxuriate in the billions of dollars racist white America has given her. She feels compelled to come to the aid of the inept and dishonest Barack Obama, trashing whites who are critical of Obama as racists. But that’s not enough.

She wants them to die.

Oprah, promoting a movie, tells the BBC:

“There’s a level of disrespect for the office that occurs. And that occurs in some cases and maybe even many cases because he’s African American. There’s no question about that and it’s the kind of thing nobody ever says but everybody’s thinking it.”

There’s no question about it. Everybody’s thinking about it. It’s not that he’s a liar. It’s not that he’s incompetent. It’s only because he’s black.

And the solution for this endemic racism is white people need to die.

GOMPERTZ: Are you saying problem solved?

WINFREY: I’m saying problem not solved. I’m saying that, you know, that’s the beauty of a film like “The Butler,” and it’s the beauty of a film like “12 Years a Slave,” and it’s the beauty of what we’re seeing on stage with “Scottsboro Boys” is that it allows people to see where the root of the problem started. It allows people to see, “Oh, that’s where it all started, this is how far we’ve come, and now this is how much farther we need to go.” Of course problem is not solved. You know, as long as people can be judged by the color of their skin, problem’s not solved. As long as there are people who still, there’s a whole generation – I say this, you know, I said this, you know, for apartheid South Africa, I said this for my own, you know, community in the south – there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die.

Noel Sheppard points out the obvious:

What Winfrey conveniently ignores is that she endorsed and campaigned for Obama BECAUSE he was an African-American. He wouldn’t have gotten her support or been elected if he wasn’t.

As we have noted previously, Oprah herself has a brush with racism with each new movie release.

Victor Davis Hanson notes Oprah’s short memory, hypocrisy and moral decline:

I don’t recall Oprah objecting when Bush was routinely shouted down. Did she deplore Al Gore calling the Bush team “digital brownshirts”? Or maybe John Glenn invoking the Nazis (“It’s the old Hitler business”) to talk about her president? Nor do I remember her weighing in on Linda Ronstadt’s claim that the Bush administration was “a new bunch of Hitlers.” Harry Belafonte and Julian Bond both routinely labeled their conservative opponents as little more than Nazis or KKK racists. Nor did Oprah note that “there’s a level of disrespect for the office that occurs” when Barbra Streisand compared Bush to Hermann Goering. Was she worried when Alfred A. Knopf published a novel about musing how to kill Bush? Or by a prize-winning docudrama film imagining the killing of Bush? What was her reaction a New York play, “I’m Gonna Kill the President,” was produced? Did Oprah once give a similar BBC interview about the office of the president and disrespect shown it in 2004 when a guest columnist in the Guardian, Charles Brooker, wrote: “On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod’s law dictates he’ll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr. — where are you now that we need you?”

What might explain her outrage now about criticism shown Obama, but silence just recently when abject hatred and dreams of violence were voiced against her president? That answer may explain a lot about what Oprah has become.

Oprah wants white people to die. There’s no question about that and it’s the kind of thing nobody ever says but everybody’s thinking it

If Oprah really wants to see what disrespect for a President looks like, she can go here.

And that’s just for starters.

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@Smorgasbord:

They ask the NSA.

NSA They peep while we sleep

@Greg:

And there’s no one who looks down on Winfrey for that reason

I think they only look down on her because she’s racist.

@Richard Wheeler:

I’ve never had a posting deleted by my fellow Marine

To my knowledge, I’ve never had any off my comments deleted. Congrats on your performance.

@Smorgasbord:

In a free society we have the right to vote for anybody for any reason without having to explain our actions. Many soldiers died for that right. If we start putting conditions on being able to vote like you suggested, then we are going backward.

Smorg, I agree 100%, but will admit there are many that would take someone’s vote for no good reason, and that freedom does not extend to all those dead dimocrats voting.

The Oprah says racists must die? Is she calling for the death of the President of the United States? Isn’t that a crime? Isn’t she also calling for her own death?

What a disgusting pile of Race Baiting garbage she is.

@Redteam: #55

…and that freedom does not extend to all those dead dimocrats voting.

And their pets that they had registered.

SMORGASBORD
MANY SOLDIERS DIED BECAUSE OF VOTES FOR NOT FIT TO LEAD PERSON,
WHICH MAKE DECISIONS WITH THEIR FEET,
AS A MATTER OF FACT, MANY MORE DIE OR ARE LOOSING LIMBS,
DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO STUPID ORDERS,

@Aqua: @Aqua:

I have never read anything anywhere to suggest Tina Turner renounced her citizenship because the US was racists. She’s married to a white German guy. She lived in Switzerland for over 20 years and said she was happy there. I don’t know that racism played a part in this.

And are we to assume that you have read everything Tina Turner ever said? So what if she is married to a white German guy? Of course, 70 years ago he would have been trying to send her off to a work camp. And just because she is “happy” in Switzerland, is that a reason to abandon her own nation? Notice, she didn’t do that until she became immensely wealth, and then she gave a big “FU” to the country that made her wealthy.

@Richard Wheeler:

Joined by others I’ve called out racist postings here at F.A. Curt has deleted them.

Refresh my memory, RW; just when did you call out racists like Travis Smiley, Martin Bashir, or even Arne Duncan with his recent racist remarks about “suburban whites?” How about Eric Holder, and his racist remarks? Or any other prominent person who has a national platform?

Perhaps you can provide us with links to those times when you were calling out the racists in your own party?

@retire05:

Perhaps you can provide us with links to those times when you were calling out the racists in your own party?

No… no he can’t.

@retire05: I was talking about racist comments made by F.A. posters. Curt had them deleted. Kudos to him. I’m sure you and R.T would agree that was the right thing to do.
Dr J. Waiting for “irony” explanation. Thanks

@Richard Wheeler:

Leftist politics, I maintain, are not a politics at all, but a psychological response to one’s shortcomings and feelings of failure. Leftist politics are, simply put, a way of getting even with a world that’s done one wrong — and most people carrying about such grievances against a world that’s done one wrong are psychologically broken.

These fairytale “politics” give them an avenue to vent their rages and turmoils about their failures and inadequacies in a way that is deemed, incorrectly, to be socially acceptable and even high-minded.

If a man were raving on the street in this fashion — about his hopes that someone would literally sh*t in a perceived “enemy’s” mouth (a perceived “enemy,” who, crucially, he’s never actually met) — most of us would shake our heads in secondary shame. Some of the more empathetic of us would call social services and attempt to have the madman brought in for psychological treatment.

But the left — Martin Bashir, Chris Matthews, Daily Kos, all of the hateful, raging, vibrating-with-resentment left — does this sort of thing in the guise of “political commentary” and no one makes the connection between this broken-souled primal screaming and mental unwellness.

That’s their cover. They just call their inner rages “politics” and their antisocial behaviors “activism,” and then they pretend to be normal, well-adjusted people.

By the way: While his colleague Martin Bashir calls for someone to sh*t in Sarah Palin’s mouth, Chris Matthews has a rage-stroke over a different matter of incivility: Dick Cheney saying that Obama lied when he lied.

http://ace.mu.nu/

That pretty much sums up how I feel about Greggie, the one, and you, RW.

And what do I care about the comments of some fruitcake here at FA that I never read that you claim you objected to? Was it someone who also has a national platform to spew their filth say like, Arne Duncan, Jesse Jackson or any one of the many racists who love to bash anyone as a “racist” who doesn’t agree with your Democrat [Socialist] Party?

Day after day the headlines, in the media that hasn’t sold its soul to Obama, are articles of racist things said by Democrats. Yet, and please feel free to provide a link if I’m wrong, I don’t remember you ever typing one word of objection. War on women? Really? Martin Bashir wants someone to sh!t down Sarah Palin’s throat and you are mute. MSNBC gives Al Sharpton, one of the biggest racists in the nation, his own TV show, and you are mute. Alec Baldwin rails on someone as a “c*ck sucking fag” and you are mute.

So spare us you indignation at some anonymous person here at FA when you haven’t got the cajones to stand up to your own party.

What so quickly forgotten is the despicable and disgusting treatment of President Bush and yes it was racist!! I don’t recall this reaction for civility when this was happening!! Convenient memory!!

@Common Sense:

Convenient memory!!

Secular progressives have always had selective, convenient memory

Common Sense
HOW MANY TIME DID WE HEAR: IT’S BUSH FAULT, IT WAS REPEATED SO MANY TIMES TO GET THE PEOPLE TO HATE HIM,
THAT WAS DESPICABLE, AND HIS TURN HAS COME TO FEEL IT.

@retire05, #63:

Leftist politics, I maintain, are not a politics at all, but a psychological response to one’s shortcomings and feelings of failure. Leftist politics are, simply put, a way of getting even with a world that’s done one wrong…yada yada yada.

So how does he account for the fact that the three richest people in the United States are politically liberal? (Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Larry Ellison) They don’t seem to be cooperating with his theory. Winfrey is a billionaire more than twice over. She doesn’t seem to be cooperating either.

Given that successful people are more likely to be politically liberal overall, I think we might extend that observation and suggest that reality in general isn’t cooperating with his theory.

What we need is another goofy theory to account for the obvious problems with the first theory. I suspect that will be forthcoming.

@Greg: Ret05 and her psycho-babble.

GREG
THEY LIKE THE OTHER DEMOCRAT LIKE TO SHOOT THEIR MOUTH,
CONTRARY TO THE NUMEROUS RICHS WITH THE CONSERVATIVES, KEEPING THEIR MOUTH SHOT,

@ilovebeeswarzone: #58
I understand your reasoning, but in the USA we pride our freedoms more than any other country. Voting is one of our main freedoms most Americans don’t want messed with. If we allow the politicians to start putting restrictions on who can vote, you can imagine what will happen, depending who is running the country. We don’t allow ones with certain mental conditions to vote, or some convicted criminals.

@Richard Wheeler:

You said “Oprah wants white people to die and everyone is thinking it.” When Greg questioned this, you suggested he missed the irony in your statement (article). From responses here, he seems not to be the only one that missed it.

I wrote

There’s no question about that and it’s the kind of thing nobody ever says but everybody’s thinking it

You’ll note that Oprah said

“There’s no question about that and it’s the kind of thing nobody ever says but everybody’s thinking it.”

Honestly, I think she’s more full of crap than she is racist but there is absolutely no question that she is full of crap and uses racism as a means of boosting her commercial ventures.

@drjohn: #71
For the record, Oprah said “racists” should die, not “whites”. If all racists died, would she still be alive? How many of us would still be alive?

@Smorgasbord:

How many times has anyone said “racists” and not meant whites?

@drjohn: #73
I’m just saying that if we are going to quote someone, lets quote it exactly as it was said. There have been many misquotes over the years. For example, “Play it again, Sam.” was not said in the movie.

@Smorgasbord:

Please show me where I did otherwise.

@Greg:

There are two kinds of liberals, those who have nothing, and those who can afford to be liberal because no taxes are ever going to affect them. They have everything.

@drjohn: #75
Look at your headline.

@Smorgasbord:

Is it a quote? You see quotation marks?

@Smorgasbord:

there are still generations of people, older people, who were born and bred and marinated in it, in that prejudice and racism, and they just have to die.

She just got finished speaking about movies depicting white racism and then mentioned South Africa.

Is there ANY doubt in your mind whatsoever to whom she refers?

@Greg:

So how does he account for the fact that the three richest people in the United States are politically liberal? (Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Larry Ellison) They don’t seem to be cooperating with his theory. Winfrey is a billionaire more than twice over. She doesn’t seem to be cooperating either.

Given that successful people are more likely to be politically liberal overall, I think we might extend that observation and suggest that reality in general isn’t cooperating with his theory.

You really are not all that bright, are you, Greggie?

Why are those people so willing to spread other people’s wealth? A) because they are not affected by the actions of the government B) because they think they are special and are in possession of greater intellect than the rest of the people based on their ability to use capitalism to their advantage, or because of their acting talent or because they inherited great wealth C) they think their great wealth makes them qualified to tell the rest of us peons how to live.

Matt Damon is a great example of the “elitist” mindset. He promotes public schools, and public school failures, yet sends his own kids to a private school. He promotes socialized medicine, yet will never have to worry about the problems associated with socialized medicine because he will just find a medical provider than he can pay for, be they here or in another nation. He supports higher taxation yet pays tons of money to a tax attorney to help him avoid federal income taxes using off shore accounts and trust funds (like Ted Kennedy did).

Oprah Winfrey builds a girl’s school in Africa. Why not here in poverty ridden Chicago or Detroit? Bill Gates donates tons of money to the Kahn Academy/Common Core, yet his children and grandchildren will never be subjected to that crap.

And fish like you buy what they push hook, line and sinker.

@Richard Wheeler:

My statement:

Yet, and please feel free to provide a link if I’m wrong, I don’t remember you ever typing one word of objection.

RW’s answer:

Ret05 and her psycho-babble.

When he can’t answer to the charge, he insults. Saul Alinsky tactics on steroids. Now, watch RW come back and say that he doesn’t know what Saul Alinsky tactics are, as if we are so stupid that we think he never heard of Alinsky so he couldn’t possibly use any of Alinsky’s tactics.

Guess since RW provided no links, there are none.

@retire05: I’ll say again. I was referring to racist commentS and death threats made against the POTUS by posters here at F.A. Curt erased them when they were brought to his attention.
It’s true, I’d never read a word written by Alinsky until people like you started quoting him here at F.A. You seem fascinated by the guy.
I’m fascinated by old timers like RT, who seem to suggest that the only racists. are those who condemn it’s existence.–strange thinking.
The suggestion that Liberals are either very rich or very poor is ridiculous.

@drjohn: From the guy who loves to compare BHO to Hitler.

@Richard Wheeler:

: I’ll say again. I was referring to racist commentS and death threats made against the POTUS by posters here at F.A. Curt erased them when they were brought to his attention.

Isn’t that just ever so convenient for you to claim that you objected to “racist” remarks made here at FA but Curt deleted them so that you cannot prove that claim? Then you have the audacity to accuse RT, and myself, of not responding to posts that we may not have even seen? You’re a real piece of work, RW.

It’s true, I’d never read a word written by Alinsky until people like you started quoting him here at F.A. You seem fascinated by the guy.

So as the entire nation discussed how Obama taught Alinsky, you are claiming you never heard of the guy before I started talking about him? And you expect us to believe that? And you expect us to believe that in spite of the fact that Alinsky was a hot topic, along with Jeremiah Wright, Jr., that you lacked to curiosity to find out who they were ?

Well, that lack of curiosity would fit a progressive such as yourself, RW. It is the lack of curiosity that allows you to hold your political viewpoints and support those in the Democrat Party. So I guess now it is clear; you are a low-information voter.

@retire05:

And are we to assume that you have read everything Tina Turner ever said?

No, I don’t expect you to assume I’ve read everything Tina Turner ever said. I would expect you to prove a rather serious accusation with some sort of reference though. A record number of people have renounced their citizenship in 2013:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101195604
Many are saying their tax burden in places like Munich are lower than New York and Chicago. Maybe that is why they are leaving.

@Greg:

So how does he account for the fact that the three richest people in the United States are politically liberal? (Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, and Larry Ellison) They don’t seem to be cooperating with his theory.

I have a different theory on the rich. There are some people that want to protect their position in society, no matter what. Hefty taxation and regulations stall upward mobility. The people many see as rich, those making $150,000 to $250,000 a year are a threat to the super rich. Some have the ideas and the drive to strike out on their own, form their own way. When you increase their taxes and regulations on their industry, they are forced to form alliances with the Buffet’s and Gates’ of the world. Buffet and Gates get richer, the little people get to remain in their place. Maybe a little better off, but not near as well off as they would be if they could do it themselves.
People like Buffet and Gates see the federal government as a charity, a way to help others. You will note that both have foundations and give money to causes they support. They just don’t want the rest of us to do it. There is absolutely nothing stopping Buffet and Gates from giving more money to the US Treasury, yet they consistently shelter their income and pay as little in taxes as possible. But they have no problem with other people paying more taxes, knowing it will not affect them.

I confess I have never understood the cult of Oprah. Yes, she is an extremely wealthy woman based on the media empire she built. Good for her. But her statements regarding old racists needing to die – clearing referring to white people – seems rather vicious and ungrateful, given that she earned her wealth based mostly on white people buying what she was selling. Furthermore, the idea that resistance to Obama stems from inherent racism is totally unsupported by the fact that Obama got elected twice.

The tiresome vitriol from leftists who cannot defend the massive failure and absolute dishonesty of Obama and his administration, making the baseless claim that opposition is based on racism rather than his dysfunctional and anti-American policies, just underscores that the left cannot honestly debate/defend their ideology.

Now, we have the story from the NY Post that there are multiple cases of Federal census workers falsifying employment numbers in the run up to the last presidential election to drop the unemployment figures. How can anyone with a shred of integrity defend anything Obama does or says? His skin color is utterly irrelevant to anyone except the party with the true history of racism, the democrat party. Which party founded the KKK? Which party had a senator who had been a kleagle (recruiter) for the West Virginia KKK, then after decades in the senate was on video using the term, “white nigger”? Which party had a governor block black children from integrating in a whites only school? (And was stopped by a REPUBLICAN president calling out military troops to protect those black students’ right to go to school? ). Which party had a senator refer to Obama as a “clean” black?

It is the dems and leftists who are obsessed with Obama’s race. As per usual for leftists so they project their racism onto conservatives, becoming more noxious in their bolivations the more desperately they need to distract from the utter failure of their policies.

Oprah, it would seem, is losing her popularity, and thinks making such baseless and provocative comments will benefit her in some way. Maybe with the ultra left obamanauts and extreme black race hustlers, but the majority of Americans are not likely going to appreciate her opinion. I know I refuse to see any movie or spend any money involving any celebrity or business that publicly supports Obama’s socialist policies.

@retire05: Wild eyed accusation against Tina Turner.
You’re Joe McCarthy on steroids
I realize for you that may be a complement.

@drjohn: #79
I’m sure she was referring to whites, but she didn’t state them specifically. Either way, I haven’t had anything to do with her for years. Dish Network has her network, and when I am scanning through the channels, I ALWAYS skip it, just like I skip Al Jazeera. I see Dish still hast it listed as Current. I wonder if they think that if they changed the name to Al Jazeera the few people who do watch it would leave it.

@Pete:

But her statements regarding old racists needing to die – clearing referring to white people – seems rather vicious and ungrateful, given that she earned her wealth based mostly on white people buying what she was selling.

So Oprah should forfeit her right to wield her considerable influence and speak out against racism because doing so is “vicious and ungrateful” to white people? Did you import this attitude from the Jim Crow era? You and Dr John, with this aggressive attitude against free expression, are the ones who seem to be conflating white people and racism. As a white person, I find it offensive that you think muzzling a person of color’s right to speak out against racism is somehow a sign of gratefulness to me. Only a racist would feel aggrieved. And in a larger sense, I personally believe trying to gin up resentment and feelings of oppression amongst white people to these perceived slights to be pretty pathetic, and I always wonder what type of person is actually susceptible to this sort of manipulation. Your articulation of the mindset, and the underlying rage, is interesting indeed.

Dr John’s been down this road many times before, of course. How is putting George Zimmerman on that pedestal working out for you these days, Dr John?

Tom
no one ever put GEORGE ZIMMERMAN on a pedestal here,
his personal life struggle has nothing to do with his defensive actions against a person
trying to bash him to death,
but the sequeled of his being far in in the bashing from that angry young,
yes those sequels might be the reason for his now actions,
I always thought that he waited too long to find a way to eliminate the attack,
no one can get away whith so much blow to his brain , and not have recursing sequels, of some kind,
YOU SEE THAT ALSO ON SPORTS PLAYERS HIT EVEN ONLY ONCE, ON HIS BRAIN,

@Richard Wheeler:

You’re Joe McCarthy on steroids
I realize for you that may be a complement.

Considering that Joseph McCarthy was proven more right than wrong (guess you have also never heard of the Venona Papers, either) yes, I consider that a compliment to be equated with someone who tried to clean our nation of Communist infiltrators which were rampant in the FDR administration.

Meanwhile, you continue to dodge any attempt to hold your feet to the fire for the claims you make.

Continuing to diminish your stature (not physical stature, of course) with your attempts to obfuscate does not go unnoticed.

@DrJohn:

It’s the liberal/commercial version of racism umbrage. And rather than seek remediation and forgiveness for them, she instead seeks death.

I’m not going to say I agree with how she phrased her statement, but you’re obviously misrepresenting it, which isn’t much better. She isn’t advocating for, or inciting for, the deaths of anyone. She was asked if the problem was “solved” and part of why she thinks it isn’t solved is because there are some people around who were raised racist, have lived that way for their entire lives, and likely won’t change. So while they’re still around, the problem will not be solved. Obviously, it could have been more artfully conveyed.

Does racism still exist, Dr John? I’m still struggling to understand how fighting racism is hurting anyone who is not a racist. Has it occurred to you, in your myopia, that Oprah might have a better handle on whether African Americans’ lives are still impacted by racism?

@DrJohn:

Oprah’s playing the race card not only to further her commercial ventures, but to suppress criticism of the utterly incompetent Obama, and you could try to be honest about it.

And what’s the reason you’re playing it! What’s the reason you take a tragedy like Trayvon Martin’s death and use the opportunity to provide a platform for those who want to talk about how he looked like a thug, had it coming, etc… what did that accomplish and who did it appeal to ? are you furthering anything with your version of the race card, page hits perhaps?

Oprah Winfrey is an African American woman of a certain age, so it would be perfectly plausible that she has had direct experience with racism, and that she currently still has strong feelings of anger and empathy and angst regarding the subject. You obviously don’t have the slightest interest in trying to put yourself in her shoes and listen to what she is trying to say; rather you’ve appointed yourself the head victim of her words, and I’d like to know why.

@DrJohn:

Perhaps you have forgotten Reid calling Bush a “loser.” Now they reap what they have sown and you’d like nothing better than to retool it into racism because that is the last refuge of the left.

if Bush being called a “loser” is really your justification for calling the current President a Socialist, Marxist, secret Muslim, al queda and/or Soros plant, who was born in Kenya, is decidedly un-American, and in fact hates America, etc. etc. etc., well I think you’d do well to learn what “proportionate response” means. As for “retooling it into racism” did I retool reality into a guy waiving a Confederate flag outside the White House recently?