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Iranian women burn a representation of a US flag and a caricature of Barack Obama in front of the former American embassy in Tehran. Photo: AP
Iranian women burn a representation of a US flag and a caricature of Barack Obama in front of the former American embassy in Tehran. Photo: AP

“President Carter inherited an impossible situation — and he and his advisers made the worst of it.”Gaddis Smith

On this day in history 34 years ago, remember, remember the 4th of November; when militant Islamic students stormed the U.S. embassy, holding 52 Americans hostage for 444 days.

To commemorate that takeover, and to demonstrate opposition to the new president’s call to “tone down” the common, daily-expressed slogan, “Death to America” chants, “tens of thousands” of protesters gathered in Tehran outside the old U.S. embassy in their own “million Islamist march” (or, as they call it, “National Day to Fight Global Arrogance”):

Tens of thousands of demonstrators packed the streets outside the former US embassy in Tehran in the biggest anti-US rally in years, a show of support for hard-line opponents of President Hassan Rouhani’s outreach to Washington.

Crowds of Iranians shouted “death to America” as they marked the 34th anniversary of the takeover of the city’s US embassy, which led to 52 Americans being held hostage for months.

Protesters waved anti-US banners, chanting “death to America” and “death to Israel”, while burning US and Israeli flags. Effigies of the US president, Barack Obama, his secretary of state John Kerry and the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, could be seen held aloft by protesters.

The protests were reported to be the biggest in years, with tens of thousands in attendance, and despite attempts by the US and Iran to thaw diplomatic relations after years of hostility.

Great Satan

Al Jazeera’s Soraya Lennie, reporting from Tehran, said that the the opinion that the US was the “Great Satan” was hard to shift in some.

“A poll recently in Iran showed that most Iranians do favour renewed relations with the United States and a normalisation of ties, she said.

“But for the people here, and this small minority in Iran, their minds will not be changed. They still see the United States as the “Great Satan” and it appears as not much happening, diplomatically-speaking, that can change their minds.”

Similar gatherings were reported in other cities across the Islamic republic, according to footage broadcast on state television, in what appeared to be some of the largest November 4 rallies in years.

The Blaze:

Besides the anti-American chants being voiced in the streets, Iranian parliament members joined in a chorus of “death to America” during a parliamentary session on Sunday.

Quoting Iran’s Tasnim news agency, the Times of Israel reported that Vice Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad Hossein Aboutorabifard called the 1979 embassy takeover a symbol of “resistance of righteousness against falsehood.” After his speech, members of parliament joined together in a “Death to America” chant.

According to Iran’s semi-official Fars News Agency, Iran’s defense ministry issued a statement Sunday that in part emphasized that the Iranian people will always chant the “death to U.S.” phrase as “a symbol of their resistance against the world arrogance.”

Can you imagine our Congressional leaders calling for “Death to Iran” chants or “Death to Islam”, let alone as a national slogan for the people? Apparently this weekend’s event in Iran was accompanied by the debut of two new “Death to America” songs.

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A few years ago, Iranians demanded an apology from Hollywood:

The film “300,” portrays the battle of Thermopylae in 480 B.C., in which a force of 300 Spartans held off a massive Persian army at a mountain pass in Greece for three days. It angered many Iranians for the way Persians are depicted as decadent, sexually flamboyant and evil in contrast to the noble Greeks.

Iranians also criticised “The Wrestler” starring Mickey Rourke as a rundown professional wrestler who is preparing for a rematch with his old nemesis ‘The Ayatollah’.

During a fight scene, “The Ayatollah” tries to choke Rourke with an Iranian flag before Rourke pulls the flagpole away, breaks it and throws it into the cheering crowd

This is rich of course, coming from a country whose apparent form of greeting and well-wishing of one another is to say, “Death to America”. And that’s in the really real world. Not in arts & entertainment.

I remember back in 2004 when Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11 was cleared by Iranian authorities for screening (to coincide with the 3rd anniversary of 9/11)- but did not get quite the reaction they were expecting from all segments of their society:

I have also been asked to express the judgment of a number of Iranians who saw the film in Iran. They sent e-mails, faxes and even phoned me to ask me to report their reviews.

First, other than David Lynch’s film, ‘The Straight Story’, Iranians have not really been exposed to any western films in their cinemas. The Mullahs’ film board forbids the display of women’s uncovered hair and all the other “corruption” Western filmmakers spread. For Iranians, therefore, viewing Michael Moore’s film was a tremendously novel experience.

After 25 years of living in a virtual concentration camp, Iranians have become exceedingly socio-politically savvy. Moore’s anti-American propaganda did not attract anywhere near as many viewers as the Mullahs had hoped for. Tehran’s despots had hoped the film would challenge the Iranian people’s favourable notion of President Bush and promote John Kerry.

But Iranians are too smart.

A group of 12 university students, for example, composed of both men and women who had seen the film, collectively wrote me and signed an e-mail which said: “Wow, this guy complains that Bush lied once. What would this windbag do if he lived here where our president lies to us once an hour?”

Another comment was: “This guy gets to publicly accuse Bush of lying and becomes famous and adored worldwide. We, here, complain about some decrepit and inconsequential government lackey and we not only go to prison but some of us get death sentences. He ought to thank his lucky stars he lives in a country where he’s allowed and even encouraged to be this obnoxious…”

Someone else quipped: “If he thinks that the U.S. is so bad, he’s welcome to trade places with us…since he’s so forgiving of brutal Middle Eastern dictators!”

Another young man said: “They are showing this film to erase from our minds the idea of America being the great liberator; maybe Americans themselves don’t appreciate what they have but we sure do!”

Another comment was: “Outside such pathetic ideological schemes, Moore’s fixation to reprimand and castigate his own society is so great that he is BLIND to the fact that our ancient land and society cannot be regarded and dealt with in the same fashion; therefore he has fallen pray to the Mullahs for whom he is nothing more than a tool to discard when his mission for them is completed.”

March 7, 2014 will see 300: Rise of an Empire out in theaters.

Hollywood regularly insults and offends our sensibilities and values. But Hollywood isn’t America. It does not represent the American government, let alone the nation’s values and people. It does exercise and demonstrate the freedom of expression and speech that we enjoy in this country, though.

What does it say about a nation whose national slogan for the last 34 years is death to another country? A slogan that’s been broadcast for 3 decades on national television, chanted in mosques after Friday prayers?

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In Canada, we have a lot of Iranians, I stay with one family when working in a particular city. Canada has a reverse immigration policy from that of the US, they require a million cold cash to invest in Canada and they like highly educated people. Consequently, the Iranians I know are way smarter than the average dink you see parroting “Death To America.” They question me thoroughly on the political and economic situations in the US, while not interrupting or disagreeing. Canada has the same propaganda problem with Leftist rags we have and the people seem astonished that the country isn’t glad to follow behind Obama, to sweep up the droppings of lunacy, because that is the way their press portrays us.

They play their cards close to their chests, perhaps they learned the technique in Iran, but at least they are not ignorant bores reciting a litany of talking points. Of course they need me, but they treat me exceptionally well.

During the Green Revolution,” in Iran, which Obama failed to assist, Twitter and the web were available to Iranian students.
They used such both to learn about the outside world as well as to express their existence to the outside world.

Not any more.
ALL news is controlled inside Iran.
No wonder the youth have the views of Israel and the USA they express.
Well, that and a day off either work or school, free food and a chance to express their hatred publicly……and keepers who know if you don’t show up and scream loud enough.

Think about it.
IF we had a 100% controlled media how would we feel about different people and places and policies?
Exactly how we were told to.
It took extraordinary effort, in the USSR days of Pravda, to figure out the truth behind the published stories.

I also remember the secret, traitorous deal Reagan made with Iran/Contra which came back to bite us all in the ass.

@This one: Ya mean this one… http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/general-article/reagan-iran/
In the general scheme of things, the Iran Contra Affair was far less damaging to our country than the first year of Obama’s presidency. Does that excuse that action? No. But I understand your need to demonize all things conservative, since your favorites are indefensible.

Carter did NOT inherit the Iran mess; he created it. It was Reagan who inherited the Carter fallout.

DROP OBAMA.