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His birth place is now mute. The truth may come out later if the MSM ever does it’s job. The real issues here are the over reach by the administrative branch in Obama Care, the deceit in “Fast and furious” and the felonies with the behavior of the IRS. (There are also several other issues that should qualify, too.) Obama has taken the office of the presidency to a new low. (Lower than Nixon or the old robber barons.)

I’m not sure Larry Klayman represents anyone but himself.
He is not an elected official.
He is not even a media member.
He hasn’t been behind the TEA Party movement as an organizer.
So, basically, he’s a guy with an opinion.
I think he is entitled to his opinion. …hyperbola-fueled or not.

Based only on Obama’s actions in threatening to arrest Catholic priests since the ”shutdown,” while trying to get arms to al Qaeda in Syria, one could make a case for religious favoritism.
It certainly is difficult to practice one’s Christian conscience while buying abortion insurance, yet Christians must do so as part and parcel of ObamaCare.
As for American Muslims, they have an ”out.”
IF they really don’t want to buy abortion coverage they can simply claim that, to them, buying insurance is a form of gambling and be exempted. I have heard that some Muslim Americans want to go ahead and buy it anyway which is their right.

Asked in OP:
Is there some religious test I am unaware about in regards for running for the highest office in the land?
Several dozen active duty and reserve Army troops were told the Mississippi-based American Family Association (AFA) should be classified as a “hate group” because it advocates for traditional family values. The briefing was held at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, and listed AFA alongside groups like the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis, the Black Panthers, and the Nation of Islam. – See more at: http://www.onenewsnow.com/national-security/2013/10/15/pro-family-group-challenges-military%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%98hate-group%E2%80%99-accusation#.Ul0WQhAwLIM

Larrrree! …Larrrree! …Larrrree!

Our president is an enigma, why?

Word Well said. Thanks

@Wordsmith: Sometimes a daunting task—somebody has gotta do it and you’re damn good at it. RW

@Richard Wheeler: Hope all is well my brother!!

To me this is the story of teh ones youth….

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/obama-is-100-red-white-blue-american-born/

god bless our country,
ol’

Word,

Personally, I don’t believe religion plays a vital part of President Obama’s personal life

That sums it up – almost. His religion is ideological. He may be confused about the Middle East, and his Admin is influenced by Muslim sympathizers, but claims of his being Muslim are senseless. IMHO, his roots are in Communist consecrations, not Christian, or Muslim, or otherwise. And as far as Reverend Wright is concerned, he’s just another loon, but Obama learned the art of sermonizing from him.

He seems to have learned well, and with the injection of lies into each sermon, he got elected twice, somehow, to the most powerful position in the country.

prefer to think of a MILITARY BACKGROUND PERSON TO TAKE ON THE PRESIDENCY,
THE PEOPLE WOULD FEEL MORE SECURE THAT HIS INTEREST ARE IN AMERICA,
AND THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT NEED TO GUESS HIS BIRTH PLACE, BECAUSE THE MILITARY BACKGROUND WOULD BE AN OPEN BOOK,
NOBODY WANT A MUSLIM AS LEADER OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, WE ALL KNOW HIS AGENDA ,
LETS GET A GOOD OLD AMERICAN WHO IS NOT AFRAID TO SHOW HIS OR HER ROOTS,
WHY DID OBAMA PAID MILLION TO HIDE HIS ROOTS,

This ain’t hell discussed Klayman, devoting an entire entry to him. Klayman is a leech, like Alex Jones, who attached himself to the Million Vet March for his own grandiose purposes. Hell, he’s not even a vet.

http://thisainthell.us/blog/?p=37977

But Klayman is also a useful idiot that the lame stream media will use to bash any conservative gathering, while ignoring the Reconquistas who attended the illegal alien rally recently held on the D.C. Mall.

But in regards to his religious affiliation? It isn’t Islam.

I do not believe that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. has a religious affiliation. He can’t seem to find a church in D.C. that suits his needs other than for a photo-op. Do I think that he has sympathy with Islam and its followers? Yes, I do. When he ordered (remember, the buck stops at his desk) that Catholic priests would not be allowed to say Mass, even if the priests volunteered their time, at military bases, he did not hand down the same edict for Imams.

Several dozen active duty and reserve Army troops were told the Mississippi-based American Family Association (AFA) should be classified as a “hate group” because it advocates for traditional family values. The briefing was held at Camp Shelby, Mississippi, and listed AFA alongside groups like the Ku Klux Klan, Neo-Nazis, the Black Panthers, and the Nation of Islam.

The listing was taken from the Southern Poverty Law Center which lists the AFA as a “hate” group because of the AFA’s support for traditional marriage. Ironically, SPLC doesn’t list CAIR or ISNA as a hate group, although they both support Islamic jihad with funding.

retire05
and who’s complaining about McCARTHY?
THEY STOP HIM, BUT TODAY YOU HAVE THE MUSLIM, THE COMMUNISTS, THE MARXIST,
DO I FORGET SOME? YES THE ATHEIST WHO ALSO MAKE TROUBLE, THEY COULD NOT LAYED EYES ON THE 10 COMMANDS FROM GOD, THEIR EYES BURNED
THIS WHITE HOUSE IS WORSE, IT HAS ALL OF THEM, AND POWER

@Common Sense: Couldn’t be better Doc. Thanks
Are you involved with Wounded Warriors Project?

@Richard Wheeler: Not directly, my wife works with a lot of them at Camp Pendleton. Did participate in Stand Down here this summer. A pleasure to serve but depressing to see our brothers in such bad shape. I got both daughter graduated from UCSC, home, and as of today both employed. How’s your fam??

Democrat pelosi and reid insult again the REPUBLICANS THE WORSE BAD MOUTHING EVER ,
NO CLASS AT ALL,
THOSE WITH CLASS ARE THE REPUBLICANS AND CONSERVATIVES AND TEA PARTY BY 100 TO ONE,
ONE SIDE IS TO LOW IN THE MUD AND THE OTHER IS TO HIGH ABOVE, THEY CANNOT REACH ANYTHING WITH BITCH AND HORE MASTER, HOW DOES IT FEEL REID AND PELOSI?

Conservatives get called “Taliban”, “hostage takers” and wife beaters by democrats and no one says a thing.

Call Obama a Muslim and the right eats its own. Something’s wrong with that.

@Common Sense: My family ts fine. At home I’ve got a lovely,smart Latina spouse and 2 wonderful Golden Retrievers.Congrats to your daughters. Obviously they’ve been blessed with great genes.

@drjohn:

Sigh. This is pretty desperately sad. If you’re going to reflexively challenge everything you perceive as being too easy on Obama, I suggest you learn how to formulate a better argument, one that doesn’t boomerang back onto your in embarrassment. Of course you could always stifle the urge to write anything and preemptively save face for once.

@ Word

Yet some crazies on the right insist on labeling him a closet Muslim with as much fervor as birthers insist he is not American-born;

While I admire the thrust of your post, I have to point out that it’s not just “some crazies” who believe this, unless you consider 1/3 of conservative Republicans crazy (or many of the authors of the rather equivocating comments above). From Pew Research, 2012:

The percentage of voters identifying Obama’s religion as Christian has increased since August 2010, from 38% to 49%, while there has been little change in the percentage saying he is Muslim (19% then, 17% today). Still, fewer say Obama is Christian – and more say he is Muslim – than did so in October 2008, near the end of the last presidential campaign. The increase since 2008 is particularly concentrated among conservative Republicans, about a third of whom (34%) describe the president as a Muslim.

I don’t need to do the math to point out, that’s a lot of people.

I have no idea where you fall on the ideological spectrum, aside from knowing you’re a committed conservative, but it seems like many of the intelligent, sane conservatives out there are in denial about the extent of influence of the wing-nut faction of the Far Right. Whether it be what happened in this incident, or the increased number of Republican lawmakers who are now on record as debt-ceiling deniers (and thus feel no professional or ethical duty to raise the debt ceiling); or whatever new head-scratcher we’ll be forced to confront next week. I doubt many on the Right are aware of the feelings of frustration and impotence most Americans feel with this Tea Party faction who seem committed to driving this nation over the ledge based on off the wall theories and a bizarre vendetta on Obama.

It seems that sane conservative voices of reason within GOP circles are now faced with two choices, exile or denial. I encourage all conservatives not to turn a blind eye to this insanity.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/books-and-arts/magazine/108150/the-revolution-eats-its-own?page=0,0

If Frum and his fellow exiles have maintained a coherent analysis but forfeited their chance to affect the Republicans, a larger and more influential coterie of moderate conservatives has done the opposite. Columnists such as David Brooks, Michael Gerson, and Ross Douthat have formulated a serious and often stinging critique of the GOP’s radical direction, and, with varying degrees of seriousness and specificity, laid out an alternative path. What they have failed to do is to face up to the cold reality that the alternative they propose diverges wildly from the actually existing Republican Party. They have instead convinced themselves that their reform crusade has succeeded, or will soon succeed. They consign the massive impediments before them to a small corner of their mental space. They invoke the Republican Party that they hypothesize as though it were real, and the real Republican Party as though it were hypothetical.

DRJOHN,
THEY democrats are getting sicker by the day,
you never heard their insult so much, more than the usual,
they get away with badmouthing, because they know the REPUBLICANS
would never badmouth them, THEY RE THE CLASS OF AMERICA, DIGNIFIED WORTHY TO TAKE OVER THE PRESIDENCY ANY SECONDS,
because ,it’s obvious the DEMOCRATS are FORGETTING THEIR PLACE, THEIR MANNERS, THEIR RESTRAINT PUBLICLY IN FRONT OF THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THEM FOR THE TRASH THEY SPOUT
ON THE OTHER PARTY WHICH IS AS IMPORTANT AS THEM,
IN OTHER WORD ALONG WITH THE IRS THEY DON’T DESERVE THEIR WELL PAID JOBS,
BECAUSE THEY ATTACK THE PEOPLE WHO PAY FOR THEM, THEY DENIED THE CONSTITUTION,
SO MANY TIMES, THEY ARE GUILTY AS HELL..
GOOD THAT THE TEA PARTY ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE PEOPLE,

A new form of psychosis appears to be financial responsibility, while pecuinary profligacy is a measure of sanity and civic responsibility; at least,, these are the new Liberal standards of mental health, and all kidding aside, they will have control of Obama Care until the country collapses economically. Do you Conservatives think you will be given a clean bill of mental health with Liberals claiming Conservatives are bat shit crazy? Oh no, Skook, liberals are to fair minded to resort to underhanded tactics like turning the IRS against political opponents.

@james Raider:

but Obama learned the art of sermonizing from him.

He seems to have learned well, and with the injection of lies into each sermon,

Hmmm. I wasn’t aware that Jeremiah Wright used a teleprompter for his sermons. Obama makes none without.

@retire05:

The listing was taken from the Southern Poverty Law Center

And you know what kind of list the SPLC is on….

@Tom:

I doubt many on the Right are aware of the feelings of frustration and impotence most Americans feel with this Tea Party faction who seem committed to driving this nation over the ledge based on off the wall theories and a bizarre vendetta on Obama.

Tom, I doubt that many on the Left are aware of the feelings of frustration and impotence most Americans feel with this Socialist faction who seem committed to driving this nation over the ledge based on off the wall theories and a bizarre vendetta on America. It doesn’t matter if Obama is a Muslim or a Shintoist or Christian, he is clearly out for the destruction of the country, no matter which Religion he has to use to accomplish it.
I’m a little concerned about all the concern about what Obama’s family saw out of the window of the White House. Since much of the activities were during Sunday School and Church hours, I’m sure that they weren’t even in the White House.

SKOOK
HI,
YES ,THE DEMOCRATS thought they would get 3 trillions just like that, because OBAMA WANT TO SPEND,
HE’S A COMPULSIVE SPENDER, MAYBE HE ALREADY SPENT LOTS OF IT ,
AND GET ALL THE DEMOCRATS NERVOUS SPECIALY HARRY REID HE IS A COMPULSIVE DR NO,
AND DARE TO INSULT THE HAND THAT GIVE MONEY,
AND YOU HEAR ALL THE DEMOCRATS SPIT INSULTS JUST TO BE FOLLOWING THE LEADER,
THEY ALL JUMP IN THE MUD TOGETHER,
WHAT A SIGHT. FOR THE WORLD TO SEE,

The only way Obama could be a Muslim is if he is a secret member of the super-radical Takfir wal-Hijra.
(Real name: Jama’at al-Muslimin or Society of Muslims.)
Recall how men who attacked the USA on 9-11-01 were called ”not Muslim,” because they went to strip clubs, drank alcohol, snorted cocaine, shaved their beards?
Some of them were tied to this sect.
Members of Takfir wal-Hijra are allowed to shave their beards, drink alcohol, visit topless bars and commit crimes against Westerners — all under the cloak of subterfuge.
Takfir wal-Hijra’s ideology was referenced on the note knifed into dead Theo Van Gogh’s body after he had been murdered on the streets of Netherlands.
But I doubt Obama has the mentality to be Muslim, he is too self-indulgent.
He doesn’t drink for show, he drinks because he enjoys drinking.
Same with drugs.
Obama is also too strong-willed.
Most Muslims truly believe in the will of Allah in all things.

@Wordsmith:

The denigration of conservatives seems to have become de rigeur. We’ve been called “the Taliban.” You have to be a Muslim to be Taliban.

So honestly, Word, I could care less what they call him, accurate or not. I am tired of being politically correct when we absorb abuse. Let him say it. Let them flame out about it.

Why is always OUR credibility at stake when they constantly throw bombs?

It’s their new civility. Let them live with it.

Will it become a common political strategy, to have no records and a web of mystery and sealed records concerning your past life?

Will we elect the candidate, our media decides to promote?

“It’s a republic, keep it if you can.” Today, this archaic quote would read, “It’s a thugocracy, those in charge and their followers justify any lie, subterfuge, or form of corruption, in the quest for power and control.”

America looked beyond a candidate’s Muslim background to elect the bipartisan man who would bring the country together: we ended up with the, “I will not negotiate” president, the antithesis of a republic, yet exactly what everyone would have previously considered a pig-headed thug, especially if they were unaware of poetical affiliations.

Theoretically, we could elect a gay Muslim to the presidency, and there is nothing wrong with that, if the president is an honest man or woman of principle, but when the president has favorite groups, like unions and the Muslim Brotherhood, he will lose major portions of his support.

now we learn he was thinking of putting down AMERICA AS A YOUNG STUDENT,
AND HIS FRIENDS, THEY DIDN’T HAVE THE DREAM OF MARTIN LUTHER KING,
THEY WHERE DREAMING OF A NEFARIOUS FAITH FOR THIS USA,
THEY WHERE DREAMING OF BLENDING WITH THE WORLD AS ONE GLOBAL UNITED FAMILY,
SHARING THE WEALTH WICH BELONG TO HARD WORKING FAMILY,
MAKING A MEDIOCRE UNITED GLOBE WHERE ALL ARE THE SAME, EATING THE SOYLENT GREEN,
WHERE ALL LOOSE THEIR HUMANITY FOR THE BEST OF ALL,
now it’s proven he could not do it, thank’s to the resistance of the true AMERICANS
NOW THEY HAVE SHOWN HOW HE CANNOT TAKE THE UNITED STATES , AND DISTRIBUTE IT IN FOREIGN LAND FOR THEM TO RESHAPE AS THEY WISH NEVER,

@drjohn:

Call Obama a Muslim and the right eats its own. Something’s wrong with that.

I think the main reason I stay republican is because no one expects me to be in lock-step with republican group think. If I think John McCain is a great war hero, but a political jack-ass, most republicans are ok with that. Larry Klayman is a hack. The man has practically sued everyone, including his own mother. Seriously, look it up.
I will admit, “put down the Koran and come out with your hands up” is funny, hell, it’s hilarious. It’s like that one friend everyone brings along that makes a complete a$$ of themselves.

@Aqua:

Sure Klayman is a hack. And a phony. But the press is quick to jump on any statement he makes. Can you equate that to anything ever said by Media Benjamin or any other radical left winger?

And while I agree with you that the first responsibility of the government is to meet its obligations to our military, it is also the obligation to keep the [illegal, IMHO] compact with seniors whose money was taken from them in the form of a savings account/insurance policy all their working years.

olhardhead
thank you for the link,
it was very interesting to find a different fraud he could have done it for years,
now we know that it could be the answer to his hidden identity,
if not it’s another as long as it’s lies more lies as the years pass,
people would not listen to SARAH PALIN WHO WAS NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON SOME BUT GAVE US A FEW CLUES WHICH THE MEDIA REJECT BECAUSE THEY WHERE MAKING MONEY OUT OF HIM,
AND MORE TO SELL HIM TO THE MASS,
THEY ARE DAMN FOR HAVING LIED TO THE PEOPLE, ALL THIS TIME,
HE MADE MONEY TO GET HIS FRIENDS TO TAKE EGYPT, HE MADE MONEY TO GET LIBYA CHANGE INTO THE MOST TERRORIST COUNTRY, HE TRYED ON ASSAD BUT IT DID NOT WORK OUT,
BUT HE MADE MONEY FOR THE ARAB SPRING, OTHER COUNTRY FELL TO TERRORIST ALSO,
THE CONSERVATIVES SAW IT FROM THE BEGINNING,
NOW TODAY,JAY CARNEY SEEM TO SAY THERE IS NO PROGRESS, HE’S COVERING OBAMA WITH ALL THE WORDS
HE COULD MUSTARD,

Wordsmith
on the other end you don’t want to be profile as an idiot taking it all with a stupid smile,
just a little smack on the kisser is so rewarding,
and we restrain ourselves a lot,
bye

@Wordsmith: This is simply DR.J. being DR.J–Nothing has changed. He thinks it’s a winning strategy. Some here strongly support him. Fortunately, many do not.

Did anyone else notice how much Klayman resembles Jerry Springer?

@Wordsmith: Word and quote with an exchange from 29 above:

Conservatives get called “Taliban”, “hostage takers” and wife beaters by democrats and no one says a thing.

Please elaborate.

What do you mean by “no one says a thing”?!

Call Obama a Muslim and the right eats its own. Something’s wrong with that.

What DrJohn was saying in:

Conservatives get called “Taliban”, “hostage takers” and wife beaters by democrats and no one says a thing.

that when the Left is using all this ‘vile’ language against the conservatives, No one from the LEFT jumps up to tell them how bad they are being to use such language.(the left doesn’t eat it’s own) but then: When someone on the RIGHT says:

Call Obama a Muslim and the right eats its own. Something’s wrong with that.

that when someone on the RIGHT says something that is objectionable, it is the others on the RIGHT that condemn them.(right eats it’s own)

I think several people missed the intent, but I agree with DrJohn on his premise.
I personally have no problem with someone referring to Obama as a Muslim, if they think that’s what he is. Is there someone that thinks being a Muslim is denigrating?

@Richard Wheeler:RW, tell us all who

Jerry Spriger?

is? After that, then tell us who Jerry Springer is.

@Wordsmith: Word, this makes DrJohn’s point. Because you disagree with what he says, you are( ‘eating your own’). You’ll never see Richard Wheeler, Tom, Greg, etc, speaking evil of another leftie. (they won’t eat their own)

@Redteam: Would expect everyone with a pulse knows who Jerry Springer is—the former mayor of Cincinnati of course.
Were you concerned about my corrected typo?
Did you ever consider a quality guy like Word may not think of Klayman as “one of his own.”

As you know I’ve had no problem calling Weiner (got 4% and finished last in Dem. primary) a scumbag.

@Richard Wheeler:

everyone with a pulse knows who Jerry Springer is

Yes, I did, but I was referring to your friend Jerry Spriger. Didn’t you see my note. You follow all those trashy shows RW, or just Spriger?

@Richard Wheeler:

Did you ever consider a quality guy like Word may not think of Klayman as “one of his own.”

Did you ever consider that I didn’t say anything about what Word thought of Klayman. The comment was about DrJohn’s comments.

As you know I’ve had no problem calling Weiner (got 4% and finished last in Dem. primary) a scumbag

. Only after I goaded you into it and had you backed into a corner.
Chuckle.

@Redteam: You had me “backed in a corner.” That’s funny
In #41 You said to WORD “Because you disagree with what he (Klayman) says you are eating your own”
Do you agree with that statement? KISS

What trashy shows are you referring to R.T –stuff you watch?
I know Springer as the former Dem mayor of Cincinnati.

@Redteam: Suggest you read slowly Word’s responses to you in #45 and #47. Like I said, he is a Class Act. Wouldn’t you agree?

@Richard Wheeler:

Beam him back down Scotty. Where are you RW? Mars?

@Wordsmith:

On a regular basis, the FA crowd likes to “eat its own” in trashing Lindsay Graham, McCain, and a whole host of others who don’t fall into lockstep with the Tea Party Movement and “angrier-than-hell-and-I’m-not-going-to-take-it-anymore” conservatives, quick on the draw in labeling those who don’t swing far enough to the right with them as RINOs and CINOs.

Yes, that is an example of the right eating their own. Supply us an example of the Left eating their own..

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