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obama not my fault

Maybe it’s jet lag.

Maybe it’s the sleeping pills.

Whatever. Barack Obama has melted down. Reality has slipped his grip like a wet salmon. Obama has always been one to take credit for everything (“I got Bin Laden”) and own everything (“my military”) yet never, ever take responsibility for anything. At his news conference in Sweden he said things that a rational person could never utter.

STEVE HOLLAND, REUTERS: Have you made up your mind whether to take action against Syria whether or not you have a congressional resolution approved? Is a strike needed in order to preserve your credibility for when you set these sort of red lines? And were you able to enlist the support of the prime minister here for support in Syria?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Let me unpack the question. First of all, I didn’t set a red line. The world set a red line. The world set a red line when governments representing 98 percent of the world’s population said the use of chemical weapons are abhorrent and passed a treaty forbidding their use even when countries are engaged in war. Congress set a red line when it ratified that treaty. Congress set a red line when it indicated that in a piece of legislation titled the Syria Accountability Act that some of the horrendous thing that are happening on the ground there need to be answered for. And so, when I said, in a press conference, that my calculus about what’s happening in Syria would be altered by the use of chemical weapons, which the overwhelming consensus of humanity says is wrong, that wasn’t something I just kind of made up. I didn’t pluck it out of thin air. There was a reason for it. That’s point number one. Point number two, my credibility is not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line. And America and Congress’ credibility is on the line because we give lip service to the notion that these international norms are important.

The world set the red line? Which world is that??? Not this world. Let’s crank up the Wayback machine.

wayback

WaPo:

Obama issues Syria a ‘red line’ warning on chemical weapons

“We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus,” Obama said. “That would change my equation. . . . We’re monitoring that situation very carefully. We have put together a range of contingency plans.”

That sounds very much to me like he set a red line.

Obama said Syria does not pose an imminent threat:

“We may not be directly imminently threatened by what’s taking place in a Kosovo or a Syria or a Rawanda in the short-term but our long-term national security will be impacted in a profound way and our humanity’s impacted in a profound way.”

Wait- what? That’s not what he’s been saying.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkvuXsMnCs[/youtube]

Again, the Wayback machine:

In a speech at a 2002 anti-war rally, Obama, then an Illinois state senator, conceded that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was “a brutal man,” “a ruthless man,” “a man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.” He noted that the Iraqi dictator “has reeatedly defied U.N. resolutions, thwarted U.N. inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.”

In short, there was no question that “the world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.” Still, Obama said, “Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States.” Hence a U.S. invasion aimed at overthrowing him would be “a dumb war,” “a rash war,” “a war based not on reason but on passion.”

Notably, Saddam’s crimes against his own people included using chemical weapons against Kurds in northern Iraq, a campaign that killed some 5,000 men, women, and children. That murderous assault, in Obama’s view, did not justify U.S. intervention.

Today, by contrast, Obama says a sarin-gas attack that caused about 1,400 of the 100,000 deaths so far in Syria’s civil war demands an American response in the form of missiles aimed at President Bashar al-Assad’s forces. “What message will we send if a dictator can gas hundreds of children to death in plain sight and pay no price?” Obama asked in a speech on Saturday. Presumably the same message he was willing to send when he opposed war with Iraq.

And BTW, his credibility is not on the line. Ours is.

“My credibility is not on the line. The international community’s credibility is on the line and America and Congress’s credibility is on the line because we give lip service to the notion that these international norms are important.”

Huh?

WASHINGTON (AP) — For more than a week, the White House had been barreling toward imminent military action against Syria. But President Barack Obama’s abrupt decision to instead ask Congress for permission left him with a high-risk gamble that could devastate his credibility if no action is ultimately taken in response to a deadly chemical weapons attack that crossed his own ‘‘red line.’’

The stunning reversal also raises questions about the president’s decisiveness and could embolden leaders in Syria, Iran, North Korea and elsewhere, leaving them with the impression of a U.S. president unwilling to back up his words with actions.

This is astonishing, even for Obama.

Let’s be very clear here. Obama blurted out the “red line” thing. Not the world. Obama put his credibility on the line- not ours. He is now desperate to drag us into something most Americans oppose. I do not believe it has to do with anything other than pulling his ass out of the fire alone. We have seen no compelling evidence for action. He has not made the case to the UN. Speaking which, the UN Secretary General said that any action by the US without UN approval would be illegal.

And that makes things very interesting.

Should the US act alone- is it an illegal act in the eyes of the world? What would that do to our credibility? Would Russia be justified in responding to such an illegality? Would Iran? Would Assad be justified in tossing some munitions at US bases in Iraq?

Hardly anyone supports action right now, especially in the absence of proof and has been posted here and here, there are a lot of doubts.

It is only fair for the rest of us to wallow in the same self-righteous indignation Senator Obama so enjoyed prior to sitting in the big chair.

It’s not so easy, is it?

This is about Obama’s ego more than anything else. I hope that liberals will finally catch on to this charlatan, this empty suit. If it’s the world’s problem, let the world take care of it. If the world set the red line, let them handle it. It can’t be our credibility on the line for something the world did.

It’s time to put on the big boy pants, Barack, and stop blaming everyone else. As you sow, you know….

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@James Raider:

even embarrassing those pulling his strings

James, are you saying he might be a puppet? Surely not? you think? Hmmmm………

@ilovebeeswarzone: RT I’m back from the gym and see you two are still at it.Try this.Mata and I had been debating who was responsible for Aug.21 CW attack. In #176 I said—
KISS Keep it simple stupid You-rebels did it Me-Assad did it. What took so long.lol
I ask again. What are you two saying? KISS
Skooks Do you understand them?

@James Raider:

Thanks! Didn’t know about it until Curt told me.

Richard Wheeler
you said ; me ASSAD,
I say who are you,
me big chief,

obama is so used to being able to say anything he wanted to and the propaganda media would go along with it, that he figured they would have his back on Syria too. Unfortunately for him, the propaganda media can’t go along with some of the stuff he is saying without admitting to the public that they are a brainwashing machine for him and the other liberals. They know the public is getting wise to the propaganda they are spreading, and to keep from going out of business, they have to tell the truth SOMETIMES.

Smorgasbord
yes,
I like what GERALDO was saying at FOX AGAINST THE ATTACK ON SYRIA,
he nailed it right on the button.
bye

Smorgasbord
you see what is taking place now they woke up the danger on AMERICAN TO BE TARGETED
IN THOSE COUNTRIES, the order was to ask the AMERICANS to get out of those places
LIKE LEBANON AND OTHER

@ilovebeeswarzone: #212
I don’t agree with him on much, but this I do. Even the propaganda media is turning against obama on this issue. obama seems to think he can say something, and it will magically happen.

@ilovebeeswarzone: #213
I agree.

@Richard Wheeler: #208 RW, you think double speak excuses your statement? Geez….

@Redteam: Doublespeak now ? Pretty clear what I said in #176. Get a grip R.T.

RW, I addressed two comments to you: #186 and # 197. You gonna address them?

RW, while you’re at it, check out this link, then tell me how many of these are you willing to see in exchange for one of those rebels in Syria? http://radio.foxnews.com/2013/09/06/video-delta-honor-guard-just-try-and-keep-it-together-when-you-watch-this/

@Richard Wheeler: Are you going to stop digging?

@Redteam: 186 I apologize for misquoting you. #197 Sorry if you were offended.
Do you accept my honest explanation in #208.

Semper Fi

@Richard Wheeler: Thanks for the apology, if that was one. It wasn’t me, it is the US Navy personnel that doesn’t need to be criticized or made fun of. All military branches and the men and women in all of them deserve nothing but honor.

Do you accept my honest explanation in #208.

I don’t think there was an honest explanation. You we’re saying ‘kiss my a**’ and attempting to ‘openly disguise’ it. Yes, we all know what the common terms for the acronym KISS is, but that’s not what you put in there and not what you were saying. I’m surprised that since ‘your message’ got through, that you now want to deny you sent it.

@Redteam: My message was exactly what I said it was. You wanna make something up and move letters around. Your problem.You haven’t been around long enough to know my relationship with Mata. I assure you I would never insult her in the crass manner you suggest. She knows it and I suspect Bees does as well.

@Richard Wheeler: I have been reading FA for at least 5 years, probably longer. I have no idea when I started commenting on it. But your relationship had nothing to do with what you wrote. I think you thought it would be perceived as high comedy by a lib, but libs don’t have a sense of humor, they don’t understand it.

@Redteam: High comedy? Crass and low class from your mind R.T. I had thought better of you.

Semper Fi

Redteam DELTA sure made some cry, and it is right to cry for the HERO,
they won’t cry, they can’t anymore, but we cry, because they deserve our tears,
and we feel their COURAGE and GREATNESS,

@Richard Wheeler: Now, after reading the comments three times, I think I beginning to understand the malfunction.

As my mentor Pogo once said, “I have seen the enemy and it is us;” except, in this case, the enemy is poor punctuation. Yes, and we are all guilty.

Rich has no higher ground because of being a Marine Officer, I corrected many pages for officers and wondered how they ever wrote papers in college.

Without punctuation, a sentence can be interpreted in a number of ways. Correct punctuation insures a greater accuracy and fewer chances for misinterpretation. In other words, correct punctuation is a tight group on the 500 yard line: punctuation leaves holes all over your target and your neighbor’s target.

We all need to tighten our groups on the grammar range or we will have more misfires over nothing.

Rich can argue his position well against overwhelming odds. I know every patriot doesn’t think like me, and that is what keeps fresh ideas in the fire. It would be a boring blog if we all thought the same ideas. Rich keeps us on toes and prevents us from being lazy and dull. I don’t doubt his patriotism. If I become frustrated, that’s the theater of ideas and I must deal with different modes of thinking. Taking the afternoon off and coming back fresh will often help us to deal with frustration.

In the mean time, everyone should buy a grammar book and read it. I suggest, “Eats, Shoots, and Leaves” for someone who needs a little humor with their grammar or “Whose (Who’s) Grammar Is It” by some lawyer who teaches lawyers grammar. He thinks he is funny, but I found a cow pissing on a flat rock to be funnier. He is good for the slightly more advanced student.

If you learn grammar, you will be amazed at how pathetic most of the professional journalists are at writing, to me, this is worth the price of admission. Just be ready to say, “Good Grief” and “O’Brother” a lot, when you read the news.

Now, my friends, make me laugh some more!

@Skookum: Thank you Skooks. I will work on improving my grammar and punctuation.
Do you think my intent was to offend Mata through the vile language suggested by R.T? I think you know my relationship with her and my continued praise for her.
BTW She assured me off line that she took no offense and understood what I was attempting to convey.
Thanks Marine. I was one of those Officers that understood the backbone of The Corps is the Staff NCO’S.

@Richard Wheeler:

BTW She assured me off line that she took no offense and understood what I was attempting to convey.

Attempting to convey? Attempting? So now you might stop digging?

@Skookum: #227
How we say things makes a difference too. This is how easy something meant one way can be interpreted another way:

TRUE STORY

I was a trainer for a trucking company. I carried a plastic soda bottle filled with water to drink as we drove along the highway, filling it up as needed. It was my student’s turn to drive, so I went in the sleeper. Some time later I woke up and pulled the curtain open to the cab.

When I went in the sleeper, my water bottle was about 1/3 full. When my student saw that I was up, he pointed to my water bottle, which is now full, and said, “I stopped at a rest stop, took a leak, and filled your water bottle.” Sometimes it’s not what you say, it’s the SEQUENCE you say it.

I will throw this in the mix.

headline: Nun in Syria Claims She Has ‘Evidence’ Proving Video Footage of Chemical Attack Was Fabricated

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/06/nun-in-syria-claims-she-has-evidence-proving-video-footage-of-chemical-attack-was-fabricated/

@Richard Wheeler: You don’t need me, you have the strength of your convictions.

Let’s play with these sentences to illustrate my point

Thanks Marine. I was one of those Officers that understood the backbone of The Corps is the Staff NCO’S.

To be more effective, (to run with the big dogs, it is imperative to use affect and effect correctly; otherwise, you sound like a politician or a news caster who uses the noun impact as a verb) let’s try this: Thanks Marine, the strength of the Corps is the Staff NCO, a lesson I learned well, as a platoon commander.

I would rewrite the sentence several times, before publishing, but the sentence gains strength. A reader for whom English is a second language might think the original sentence had something to do with anatomy. You are more profound and no one should become confused.

There have been major battles lost, because vague language usage and poor punctuation made messages open to creative interpretation.

I was hoping for a more exciting example, but once you start reading prose like a trapper reads sign, you will see the inconsistencies no one else sees.

@Smorgasbord: Now, that is an excellent example. LOL Good Grief!

enchanted
I believe the story of the NUN,
WHY WOULD A NUN LIE, she took a chance to be killed for telling the truth,
bye

one thing is clear, that is if the rebels who are been considered
legitimate peaceful citizens of SYRIA by some DEMOCRATS and McCAIN,
why do they allow the ALQAEDA many groups to join their fight,
by doing this they legitimize ASSAD TO FIGHT THEM AND RIGHTFULLY TOO.

Smorgasbord
that one was funny on 230,
thank’s for the laughter,
bye

SKOOKUM
ENGLISH is my second language written, but I don’t make those errors of grammar ,
I became perfect, because of your help from the beginning, and from other also,
which I copy for words I need at time,
so I know so much there is no more need for me to learn,
woops
bye

RW, read this:

Capt. Clement had been charged with dereliction of duty for not properly supervising Marines who urinated on Taliban corpses. A video of the act went viral on YouTube, drawing harsh criticism from the White House. He denies any misconduct.

Maj. James Weirick, a staff attorney at Quantico who was to testify on Wednesday, filed a complaint with the Pentagon inspector general over Gen. Amos’ actions. An investigation is underway.

Gen. Amos, through an aide, later told Gen. Waldhauser he regretted his orders and decided to replace him.

A Marine spokesman said earlier this summer: “The commandant immediately realized that he had compromised the situation and took immediate action to ensure that the investigation and cases were given to an appropriate new convening authority who could exercise independent and unfettered discretion to take action in those cases.”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/7/marine-corps-retreats-court-martial-charges-taliba/#ixzz2eElrMsgZ
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/7/marine-corps-retreats-court-martial-charges-taliba/

Doesn’t that just get your patriotic heart pumping knowing that YOUR Commander in Chief has put pressure on the Marine Corps Commandant “( drawing harsh criticism from the White House.)” to get one of your Marine Corps compadre’ convicted for something relating to Muslims? You just never know what they will come up with next….

Redteam
anything for the enemies, even selling a MARINE’S LIFE,
is that an AMERICAN COMMANDER IN CHIEF?
HELL NO
URINATE ON THE CORPS OF AN ENEMY IS SAVING A LIFE AND PROTECTING A MILITARY FROM EXPLOSIVE EIDS UNDERNEATH

Richard Wheeler
how is that different line work?
I was one of those ignorant OFFICERS who understood
THE CORPS OF THE STAFF NCO’S BACKBONE

Richard Wheeler
or this one.
THE STAFF NCO’S knew I was one of the OFFICERS,
who understood the CORPS BACKBONE,

Richard Wheeler
one more for you to choose.
I was, among the CORPS OF THE OFFICERS, the one who understood the bone
in the back of the NCO’S

@ilovebeeswarzone: #226
Awesome comment, Bees.
The greatest poets can only dream of lines so clean and pure…

@ilovebeeswarzone: #242
Bees, you owe me a keyboard to replace the one I ruined by spraying tea over it as I read your comment.

Richard Wheeler
how’s this one,
AMONG THE OFFICERS OF THE CORPS,
I understood the NCO’S had a bone to pick on my back,

Petercat
I have use his first line and use the words like SKOOKUM mentioned,
the possibility of turning a sentence, and decide to play,
to give him back, what I owed him,
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone: #239

URINATE ON THE CORPS OF AN ENEMY IS SAVING A LIFE AND PROTECTING A MILITARY FROM EXPLOSIVE EIDS UNDERNEATH

If you were a Canadian soldier fighting an enemy, and you saw one or more of the enemy urinating on a fallen Canadian soldier, how much harder would you fight to avenge that act? We should never go down to someones else’s level. The act should never be done by THE GOOD GUYS, just because it is the wrong thing to do, but it will also make the enemy fight harder to win the battle. How much hard do you think the enemy fought after that incident?

Smorgasbord
they could have been exploded, this was a perfect trap and you don’t t think of it,
but they saw many of their brothers died or lose limbs on EIDS
they surely thought of it,
war is ugly not a rose garden, and a peaceful place to be,
they don’t have access easy to bathroom, this was the perfect safe place, AND SAFE,

Petercat
your computer might not be ruin, there suppose to be a tray under the keyboard ,
it should have collect the liquid,
it also depend on the strength of the spray and the liquid also,
sorry to be responsible for the mess,

bye

CORP. CORPS CORPSE

@Smorgasbord: #247
I would guess that they are already fighting as hard as they can, and committing as many monstrous, sadistic acts as they can. I doubt if treating their corpses with disrespect will make things any worse.
Personally, if I must fight, I would rather fight an enemy who is raving with anger. It is more likely that they will make mistakes and/or do stupid things.
No, urinating on a corpse is not going down to their level. To reach that level, we would have to rape and torture captured enemies and civilians on a massive scale.
I’m talking real torture, of the flensing/burning/bleeding/raping/breaking/amputating variety, not the merely uncomfortable but not physically damaging type, such as waterboarding.

@James Raider: Regarding our ‘Community Organizer’ has ‘anyone’ seen that Barry DID ANYTHING even remotely useful during his stint converting the masses to being a drag on society..errrrr Socialism?

@Smorgasbord: Smorg, I certainly agree with you, no one should disrespect other humans such as apparently was done, but that was not what this was about. It was about the White House putting pressure on the Marine Commandant to ensure that the persons were convicted. And then the Commandant then, apparently, gave orders that they were to be ‘crushed’ in a court martial. Every person that is guilty of a crime is entitled to a fair trial. One that the outcome is not determined prior to the trial. This is what was going on here. I don’t think it is the role of the President to determine guilt, nor do I think it is the role of the Commandant. Both should be removed legally from their office for illegal activity.
I wouldn’t expect RW to agree with this.

Redteam
when the troops are push beyond their limit, things happen so to release the pressure,
or you get sick

UpChuck.Liberals, #253

His record, obviously brief, and whatever it may contain, has been cleaned and scrubbed very effectively – accomplishments = Zero. This has evidently been a very masterfully manufactured President.

@Petercat: #252
I have never been in a battle, so I’m not speaking from experience. If the enemy can show videos of our guys doing bad things to their dead, it will be a great recruitment tool. The more the enemy believes they will be tortured if captured, the harder they will fight. If they have their families with them, they will fight even harder to keep their family from being tortured. If we were known for mercy when the enemy surrenders, the enemy is more likely to give up, especially if they are sick and hungry.

I forget which island it was, but the Japanese leaders had convinced their people on one island that we tortured prisoners until they died. They were so fearful of being captured and tortured, that when they saw they were going to loose the battle, the soldiers killed themselves, and the women jumped off of a cliff with their children so they wouldn’t be tortured. Who knows how many of our guys died because they weren’t going to give up for fear of being tortured.