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channeling Jack London?

@john: I was thinking more like William Golding’s 1955 book, The Inheritors.
The Inheritors is a story of eight Neanderthals who encounter Homo sapiens for the first time.

The humans view the Neanderthals as Forest Devils and are quick to kill them when they can. Eventually, all the Neanderthals are killed, except for two small children that are taken captive and treated like pets.

I read it as a child along with his Pincher Martin, a story created as if a drowning man could create an alternate reality to his dying.

Later I read his Lord of the Flies which is much better than any movie version.

The Last Neanderthal was written, not to copy someone else’s style or story, but to offer some fresh ideas on the mystery of the disappearance of Neanderthal.

Besides, I have read most of London’s writings, but I have never heard of Golding or his novel.

I have always been a student of prehistoric man, and since Neanderthal is considered a highly advanced hominid or human of comparatively recent vintage, I include him in my studies. Laughably, some in academia are attributing Neanderthal’s demise to climate change; although the climate variation caused by the Great Ice Ages was significant, no one knows why they started or receded, but capturing the mystery and channeling it into current politics is an interesting ruse.

Amazingly, the European DNA has now been determined to possess between 1.5% and 4% the DNA of Neanderthal. It was assumed that there was no cross breeding, but unless you concur with the jury of the OJ trial, it is hard to dispute genetic sequencing. The DNA is revealing fascinating facts of prehistory that will help trace the migration of humans for eons. The great ice sheets predicted and dictated where life could sustain itself, because life was extremely difficult in the areas away from the ice because of the lack of precipitation.

Therefore, competition for survival was intense because of reduced geographical areas of water and precipitation. Modern Man or the Hairless Ones had the advantage of more advanced weaponry, advantages that gave them the ability to engage Neanderthal from a distance rather than fighting close in, where Neanderthals throwing rocks, heavy spears, and tremendous strength gave him the advantage.

Our nature and desire to claim and kill for the right to territories has not evolved any appreciable amount in the last 30,000 years, we are still blood-thirsty savages.

What a great piece, Skook. Your depiction ‘feels’ right on many levels, although no one can know with any certainty the hows and whys of Neanderthal extinction, or the process of their lives. You’ve evidently thought much on this long path of history.

You could see their indifference to death by their willingness to breed kits during times of famine.

BAM! . . . . ouch.

It seems entirely possible that Neanderthals has less developed egos, and were therefore, as you depict, much less aggressive – though they were very probably physically stronger and sturdier than our principal ancestors.

To further stir your prodigious imagination, if you haven’t seen this yet, . . . . some amazing research on mitochondrial DNA of remains thousands of years old, tied to present day descendants living in Norther British Columbia.

And from Archaeology:

One particularly fruitful site, the Lucy Islands, yielded human remains and evidence of a house structure that is 5,300 to 6,400 years old. Careful study revealed that one of the ancient individuals found there, a young adult female, lived roughly 5,500 years ago. Her mitogenome matched that of another female found on Dodge Island, near the city of Prince Rupert. Her remains were about 2,500 years old. A living participant in the study also carried the same mitogenomic signature, the researchers found, and so is a direct maternal descendant of those two women or their mothers.
Three other living participants host a different mitogenomic sequence that matches another individual found on Dodge Island who lived about 5,000 years ago.

Finding 6000 year old remains which are connected through DNA to First Nations women currently living in the very same area, gives new meaning to “nomadic hunter gatherer.” They were/are apparently not so nomadic.

@Skookum: I have never heard of Golding or his novel.

Trust me, if your writing is reminding me of Nobel laureat Golding’s old work, I am being complimentary.
You would probably really enjoy some of his works.
He was deeply educated in classical history.
Greek and other parallels are all through his works.
Like they so often are in yours.

SKOOKUM
THAT IS A GOOD POST, very interesting, even that I read of it before, it’s
also the way you put it on a POST, which make it more good to read,
bye

@James Raider: JR, thank you for the input. I was hoping to stir controversy and raise awareness, but you exceeded my expectations, outstanding with great links. I think many of our preconceived ideas of migration and settlement are about to be up ended.

The Prince Rupert story is interesting, but like the story, the search and competition for food is the main driving force in migration instinct. If food is abundant and disease doesn’t ravage the population, why migrate?

With the herds, the animals with the migrating instance survived times of famine: the sedentary animals were destroyed during times of famine. I think the same principle applies to humans, except they have incorporated reason or analysis for direction and relied less on the senses, sometimes they were successful, sometimes they starved. If it is virtual summertime the year round and the living is easy, except for the precipitation at Prince Rupert, why relocate.

@Nan G: I apologize, but I haven’t heard of Golding, until this morning. I will be sure to read his work in the near future.

It’s hard to come up with unique ideas, and often a work will resemble some other work by accident. The ancient Greeks gave us the plots for an infinite number of stories, and thus it is hard to avoid similarities to the old plots.

@Skookum: #7,

If food is abundant and disease doesn’t ravage the population, why migrate?

Exactly. What struck me about the Prince Rupert findings, is that for 6,000 years these people have lived, basically in one place.. It’s all in a very small area of B.C., as you know.

The remains of very large “battlements” which were recently discovered up the Fraser River on its higher banks, also point to long term settling of areas by the native population, and are evidence that they did not migrate.

Thanks for a great post Skookum. I think our Neanderthal ancestors Provided us with some of the courage and tenacity which our founding fathers seemed to have in abundance but which we seem to have a diminishing call for.
Think John Boehner .
William Golding’s Lord of the Flies is a must read as it aptly depicts the culture we currently live in.

@coldeadhands: Thank you for an interesting point of view. This idea of writing off our Neanderthal relatives as dull brutes is being questioned; especially now, that we know they are responsible for a major portion of European DNA.

Their art is magnificent and to view it is one of the few things I have for my bucket list. The minds that created those drawings and paintings were advanced minds, and the flint tools are some of the finest in the world.

I managed to read, “Lord of The Flies” and found it to be a fascinating book. The idea of boys returning to a feral state of savagery, in a short period of time, is sobering; until you realize, we have full-blown savages in our cities at the present time, and who would not call the fanatics, who cut off heads, anything but savages.

Thank you all for reading the essay. It was an experiment, to see if there was an interest in the Neanderthals and their culture for a future novel. Not the “Clan of the Cave Bear” type, but a novel with new ideas that portray Neanderthal with a sensitive personality and an advanced culture.

coldeadhands
it gave me the thought that maybe in those times the human to become
where more protective of their species, because they where fewer,
as oppose to today the ones who are the warriors are taken for granted,
and made expandable by the leaders who on and on send them
to foreign hater COUNTRIES FOR A LONGER TIME,
AND FAIL TO THINK THAT THOSE WARRIORS ARE HUMAN.

An interesting question to consider, now that we have the Neanderthal genome and cloning horses is becoming big business, what ethical and moral responsibilities come to the forefront, now that the technology is available. Are we creating human life or another animal to amuse us?

It is only a maaer of time.

@Skookum:

Thank you all for reading the essay.

You’re welcome. 🙂

It was an interesting piece.

For some reason, I was thinking “Last of the Mohicans”- maybe it’s ’cause of the title of your post.

It’d be fascinating to transport through time and be a figurative fly on the figurative wall, observing history unfold.

What if things had turned out such that several human species had survived and not gone extinct? Would we have had true “race wars” occurring?

I think it’d be cool if I had neanderthal genes in me. Then when I had to fill out a form with one of those annoying checkboxes asking for “race”, I could fill in with “Neanderthal”.

This seems to suggest the possibility that there was interbreeding amongst other species as well:

It is hard to imagine today, but for most of humankind’s evolutionary history, multiple humanlike species shared the earth. As recently as 40,000 years ago, Homo sapiens lived alongside several kindred forms, including the Neandertals and tiny Homo floresiensis. For decades scientists have debated exactly how H. sapiens originated and came to be the last human species standing. Thanks in large part to genetic studies in the 1980s, one theory emerged as the clear front-runner. In this view, anatomically modern humans arose in Africa and spread out across the rest of the Old World, completely replacing the existing archaic groups. Exactly how this novel form became the last human species on the earth is mysterious. Perhaps the invaders killed off the natives they encountered, or outcompeted the strangers on their own turf, or simply reproduced at a higher rate. However it happened, the newcomers seemed to have eliminated their competitors without interbreeding with them.

This recent African Replacement model, as it is known, has essentially served as the modern human origins paradigm for the past 25 years. Yet mounting evidence indicates that it is wrong. Recent advances in DNA-sequencing technology have enabled researchers to dramatically scale up data collection from living people as well as from extinct species. Analyses of these data with increasingly sophisticated computational tools indicate that the story of our family history is not as simple as most experts thought. It turns out that people today carry DNA inherited from Neandertals and other archaic humans, revealing that early H. sapiens mated with these other species and produced fertile offspring who were able to hand this genetic legacy down through thousands of generations. In addition to upsetting the conventional wisdom about our origins, the discoveries are driving new inquiries into how extensive the interbreeding was, which geographical areas it occurred in and whether modern humans show signs of benefiting from any of the genetic contributions from our prehistoric cousins.

Personally, what I think happened about 30,000 years ago, was that a black, impenetrable rectangular, monolithic enigma appeared in the midst of one tribe of ancestors and transmitted some signal into their genome that evolved them into having an intellectual advantage over the other humanoid species.

I’m pretty certain of this, because I saw it in a movie.

@Wordsmith: I think you may be on to something. However, we may be creating another entitled minority.

I was working for a lady in Washington, and we were discussing the advanced prehistoric cultures. She thought that for man to advance so quickly out of barbarism, start building pyramids, and creating calendars, there had to be help from people beyond our world, space aliens to be precise. She asked me if I believed in space aliens and little people from space. I grinned and told her no; she fired me.

The black box with all life’s mysteries is an enigma; only, because really mean people are always hiding the technology from us lesser beings. In fact, it is our reluctance to believe in the supernatural, that is making the little aliens so reluctant to spill the beans. You can learn a lot, from working on horses.

I read this after finishing work with some spoiled horses and it was just the thing to clear the air.

Personally, what I think happened about 30,000 years ago, was that a black, impenetrable rectangular, monolithic enigma appeared in the midst of one tribe of ancestors and transmitted some signal into their genome that evolved them into having an intellectual advantage over the other humanoid species.

I’m pretty certain of this, because I saw it in a movie.

Great material, what a good laugh I had.

@Wordsmith: The use of Cooper’s title was deliberate. The story had a profound effect on me. The thought of being the last of your group with no way to recover is a powerful message. I hoped to capture part of Cooper’s magic.

@Skookum: #14,

In fact, it is our reluctance to believe in the supernatural, that is making the little aliens so reluctant to spill the beans. You can learn a lot, from working on horses.

Brilliantly put and humorous as hell, Skook. Got a chuckle on that one. Nevertheless, therein lies one of the great stumbling blocks of the scientific process.

For example, regardless what methodology science has thrown at it, science is incapable of understanding the nature of consciousness – one of the foremost questions for humans. Science cannot touch it, feel it, measure it, and therefore reduces it to being a consequence of complex biochemical and electrical processes, . . . and other such confusions.

Science steadfastly refuses to touch the supernatural/spiritual (I’m not referring here to religion), limiting the possibilities of understanding other energies and dimensions. Scientific dogma leaves real understanding well beyond the fringe.

James Raider
you and SKOOKUM are so smart, that I struggle to understand you both on this one,
but I love the challenge of trying even if I DON’T SUCCEED, I won’t give up.
bye

@ilovebeeswarzone: #17,
Didn’t mean to be obscure, MsBees. It’s a multitude of topics rolled into a brief exchange, no doubt worthy of long discourse. I’ve also just completed a book, under pseudonym, which touches the subject matter, so I’ve dedicated much time in understanding what we consider to be just beyond the fringe of our ‘material‘ and ‘corporeal‘ reality. Bottom line, we human should remain open to possibilities and energies which we do not “see or understand.” Much exists which most of us humans (science), refuse to acknowledge generally because it cannot ‘rationally’ be explained – (supposedly). I noted the example of consciousness above, but ‘intuition’ is another, and this list is very long.

My opinion: I like Skook’s note about learning from horses, because, while it is a subject he is obviously an expert on, he uses the example to convey the non-obvious interaction which occurs between human and animal. Skook can physically heal a horse, but much of what he achieves is in the realm which science in incapable of defining, describing, dissecting, or quantifying, and therefore science gives it very little credibility. The supernatural, IMHO, isn’t necessarily about mystical, magical aliens with superpowers, but is accepting and understanding such things as our own spiritualities and the energies which we are, but cannot measure. Yah, it can evolve into a long discussion. 🙂

James Raider
yes I do love hearing of the unknown the unable to touch and smell and see,
you caught my interest which was always there, i too believe in the impossible,
I even lived it, I was protected by this energy in the rehalm,
that’s why we all are hook on this BLOG together and we love to communicate and be friend without having a body into it’s exchange, that alone to my mind is extraordinary, and to think that the humans found a way to
make this possible all over the WORLD WITHOUT MOVING OUR PRESENCE,
SO WHAT IS NEXT COMING MUST BE WHAT WE WISH TO BE,
that is meeting with our mind to the other side without dying,
and be able on just a thought to escape this world and go and communicate with the outer whatever.
bye

@James Raider: I don’t like to sound like many in the horse business and the rest of the world, but there are many things that can be accomplished by an opening of the mind and purging yourself of fear and aggression. Often aggression is a device to hide fear, bullies and wife beaters employ this technique, but many women and children are guilty as well.

This latest court case was an extreme example of what can go horribly wrong when two insecure men meet head on, it almost never works out well. I can demonstrate this theory on any given day.

Yesterday, i worked for a woman who led out a large pony that acted like it might hurt her or kill her, I took the equine and did my work with only a couple of half-hearted backing episodes. She then brought out an 18 month old Irish horse that was untrained and ready to kill her. It took about three minutes, but I had the horse tamed down and loving on me while I worked on it.

Many people refuse to believe this and many doctors who should know better insist that I am using some sort of sedative I have hidden on my body, good grief. It is not advanced but I have been doing it since I was teenager, so I continue to get better. I laugh at all skeptics and then make them look, well a little lost. It works on humans, I once stared down a man who held a shotgun on me and said he was going to shoot me, I put him in a trance state and on the ground, before disarming him. I tell you these things because I think you understand them and the post is no longer in the middle of things.

It’s a subject i have thought on many hours/years. Unfortunately, some horses and some people have been abused so severely and for so long a period of time, there is almost no hope for them.

I call the process, Capturing The Mind. It is nearly impossible to quantify, but it is impossible to deny, when you see it in action.

SKOOKUM
I believe you and remember that day of last couple of years,
you where with a couple which was visiting you had invited them, they where part of this group
I’m trying hard to find the name, he has a game of bet business,
so his wife had a problem he related that you touch her and she was okay at once, he was so chock to have witness it,
that mean that you have a gift of healing, ingrained in you, that can be used on horses and other animal and also most difficult on humans,
it stayed in my memory, even after all this time
bye

Or maybe the Neanderthals and early moderns had more sophistication and less predisposition to violence? Maybe they traded with each other and shared knowledge. Maybe Neanderthals saw themselves as needing some of the moderns tools and worked as guides and advisers to modern humans? So many possibilities; why is there so much assumption that modern men and Neanderthals were always at war with each other? This warlike predisposition seem to be a modern projection to the thinking of stone age men.
http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/2873/20130709/neanderthal-speech-language-comparable-modern-humans.htm

Richard Glen Cheek
yes very true, and the forever need to expand the mind toward better and ingenuity
pushed to the maximum
was in order of the day and night even in dreams, where the brightness of an idea surge like a precious stone,
so far out, which led us to the moon and the technology we are living in.
because of them.
bye

@Richard Glen Cheek: Thanks for the link.

You have an interesting and provocative idea; however, the presumably narrow margin for survival during the Great Ice Age, with its depleted supplies of precipitation precludes the keen competition for survival and resources, but by the same token, during times of plenty, men are more apt to be friendlier with others.

This concept is certainly a possibility and should be included in an historical novel.

The idea of a common language between diverse groups is a bit more far fetched. If we look at the stone aged men we are most familiar with, the American Indian, they had a diverse system of languages; yet, sign language was a universal language, and it worked well. Lewis and Clark communicated with all the local tribes through their guide using sign language.

Yes, the reduction of resources, the African Pump and the differences in appearance may have caused friction, and I am sure it did. But these are geological events as we see them all pushed together in our perspective. I am not sure it would have been all that noticeable at the time. Nature moves in cycles, with periodic good and bad periods, so it is a major question if any particular community would have been aware of larger macro changes in the climate.

Besides, peaceful trade is simply more efficient than conquest. What is the point to obtaining more resources? To save lives in your community. How is fighting a bloody tribal war more efficient than patient negotiation and exchange? It is easier to trade with a neighboring tribe than to raid them and/or enslave them and if they produced a unique resource due to long colocation and experience, you have lost that resource in all likelihood.

Yes, a vast war between species is more dramatic, but I think it much less likely. Of course, I am no expert, so ymmv.

Richard Glen Cheek
very good point of view,
from there to now, there seems to be a resurgence on the behavior,
just my opinion,
bye

It is common to apply ethnocentrism to cultures of the past, but it precludes an accurate picture of the past. Early tribal man’s first allegiance was to his nuclear tribe. There is no reason to assume loyalties beyond the basic group. The Ice Age had most of the fresh water in the world locked up in the ice, providing a narrow margin for survival, in the area near the ice floes. It is a simple formula, most life forms on earth require water, especially those that can sustain man. A good portion of the oceans were on land and frozen in the ice masses of North America and Europe, that were over a mile high.

People have a difficult time imagining a world with very little water or precipitation, but during the Ice Ages, this was in fact, life on earth.

Tribal groups living in the midst of abundant food are more likely to coexist and trade, but those groups facing starvation will covet the food sources of others. There were no wars of attrition under a common banner, these were tribal confrontations. The plight of other hominid species or different ethnocentric groups within one specie didn’t concern stone age man, he was concerned with survival on the most primitive level and the protection of the women and children within the tribe. It is fairly certain these tribes were usually about twenty individuals, since hunting and gathering tribes can rarely support larger groups without agriculture or hunting on a large scale like the mounted buffalo hunters of North America.

The Stone Age cultures of North America engaged in trade, but they were often in a state of perpetual war with one or more different tribes and it was usually the allocation of food materials that ignited these tribal conflicts.

In Europe and Asia, the margin of survival was pared down because of the extremely limited amount of land that could support life because of the lack of precipitation, thus the probability for conflict was increased not diminished by the climate. It is ludicrous to assume these primitive Stone Age men had any concept of climate in its present popular concept, their climatic changes moved with glacial speed. Climate changes occurred over thousands of years and the average life span was less than thirty.

It is a mistake to weave our altruistic visions of spiritual enlightenment into the psyche of primitive man, he was more worried about surviving until tomorrow and insuring the survival of his tribe.

SKOOKUM
I think the NEANDERTHAL WHERE EQUIP WITH DIFFERENT ATTRIBUTES THAN US NOW,
their senses of smell must have been many degrees over us, do you think?
and the sense of perception also must have been superior, for their survival, they would use in hearing when hunting, all in all ,I would call it their animal sense was primordial,
as an example I see a group of deers percieving just a breath of one human would get them to all
to scramble all on one move,
but did they have a knowledge of right or wrong? would we know it?
or is it lost to our generation,
bye

Bees, thanks for the compliment.

Skookum, I agree with what you point out, BUT…lol (can I laugh at myself here?)….itseems most relatively primitive or Stone Age tribes we have met were primarily willing to go to war when their tribe grew too big and they split to displace other tribes.

Really, though, I think we are underestimating Neanderthal man still.

Richard Glen Cheek
yes and also they had to divide so to seek the other tribe’s woman
steal them or however, and the taste of war where surely happening,
when the other refuse to share the girls,
I can imagine by checking the moose in time of rut
fighting to death

going further, deeper, in prehistoric time we have to assume, there was no guilt feeling, no right or wrong thoughts when the need to kill was in the need of the day,
and from there I FEEL TO VENTURE IN THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN NEANDERTHAL
HUMAN TO BE, TOWARD ANIMALS,
WAS THERE AT SOME TIME A SEXSUAL RELATION AND IF IT WAS THE FEMALE HUMAN WITH ANIMAL, WHAT DID CAME OUT OF IT, OR DID AN HYBRID CAME OUT OF IT WITH THE INNER INTUITION OR GUT’S FEELING OF BOTH HUMAN AND THAT ANIMAL,
AND IF THAT HYBRID WAS ALLOWED TO LIVE
AND PROCREATE, WAS THERE A BREED STARTED TO CONTINUE AND MAYBE HAD MORE INSIGHT THAN THE ONLY HAIRLESS HUMAN TO BECOME, OR WAS IT EXTERMINATED BUT HIS GENERATION ALLOWED TO BECOME ONE OF THE BABEL TOWER TRIBE TO BE SCATTERED
AWAY BY THE OTHER, because of being not understood and having a notable human difference,
PHYSICALY AND SPIRITUALLY, MAYBE HIGHER IN SPUR OF KILLING SPREES OR SOME OF THE SAME ORDER, AND BECAUSE OF IT MANAGE TO SURVIVE OVER THE GENERATIONS OF TIME, AND LESS AGRESSIVE because of mix breeding intetwine in their genes,
BUT if given POWER, THEY WOULD BE SEEKING TO EMPOWER HUMAN AND ENSLAVING THEM BECAUSE IT’S PART OF THEIR DOMINANT GENETIC TREE
they would not even know why, nor would have never questioned
why their urge to revenge is so strong within their spirit,

James raider,
I would like that book you have written,
what is the title and where do we get it?
thank you,

one fact we must face if we gage ourselves by the NEANDERTHAL CUSTOMS
AND CLIMATE CHANGE IN NATURE THEN,
WE KNOW THEY MOVE CONSTANTLY, AND STOP WHERE THEY FELT GOOD AND FREE FROM THEIR ATTACKER,
but the fact remain that NATURE WAS AN IMPORTANT decision maker in their tribes,
there was surely storms and hurricanes and tornados to scare them away,
which was another cause of their move to find a better climate to raise family,
I think NATURE WAS CAUSE TO DECIMATE MANY OF THEM, WHICH THEIR ORIGINS WHERE LOST TO THE NEXT GENERATIONS, TILL TODAY, THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN ADVANCE IN INTELLIGENCE BUT PHYSICALLY TOO WEAK TO SURVIVE THOSE DEVASTATING STORMS,
IN THOSE TIMES, ONLY THE PHYSICALLY STRONG PREVAILED TO SURVIVE,
WE SHOULD TRY TO FIND WHICH ERA GAVE US THE SWITCH BETWEEN PHYSICALLY STRENGTH AND INNER INTELLIGENT STRENGTH,
the mighty will to survive

i’ll be dam, I lost my comment while almost finish,
and I won’t restart it,
it was to prove a point on my 31 comment,
okay, there must be a reason why it was scrap,

those NEANDERTHALS surely have seen the biggest animals of the CREATION,
I’m naming the MAMMOTHS AS EXEMPLE, THEY WHERE HUNTING THEM
and they could feed and drink the blood if all was in solid ice,
and by doing so, would , I suspect get the genes of the animals to mix in their blood,
am I right to think of this possibility?

@ilovebeeswarzone: Bees, you are wrong. The DNA code is acquired at conception.

SKOOKUM
yes, I believe you are right,
it just came to me, and I put it here for analyst,
thank you,
but is DNA SAME AS GENES?

Skookum
from JULY 8, till now that I am reading this POST OF YOURES,
it had capture me before and still doing it again now SEPTEMBER 27 2013,
IT AGAIN BRING MORE QUESTION TO MIND,
THANK YOU FOR IT.

if one neendertal female have mix with a monkey creature,
they would not get the genes because those females are grown up ,
but who or WHAT THEY CONCIEVE MIGHT HAVE STARTED A DIFFERENT RACE,
WHITE , OR RED OR BLACK OR YELLOW MIX WITH THE OTHER CONCEPTIONS
BETWEEN NEENDERTAL MALE AND FEMALE, AND THE NEXT GENERATION OF MIX THE TWO DIFFERENT CHILD FROM THE TWO DIFFERENT CONCEPTION,
NOW , ADD TO IT,
GENERATIONS ON TOP OF GENERATION, FROM THOSE MIX OR NOT,
GIVE US EACH TRAITS WICH WE CALL GIFT TO EXCELL IN A SPECIAL TRADE,
BE IT HEALING, OR BUILDING OR SPEAKING WITH ABILITY TO SELL AND OR CONVINCE OTHER, ECETERA,
COULD HAVE PLAIED A ROLE IN THE MINDS OF THE FIRST NEENDERTALS TURNED HUMAN THINKER DEEPER AS THE GENERATION PASS WITH THEIR PREVIOUS KNOWLEDGE AND SEEKING TO ACQUIRE MORE , THEY HAD TO THEN, THINK DEEPER SO TO AUGMENT THEIR BRAIN WAVES ON WHAT CAME OUT , WAS SPECIALISATION OF ONE SKILL ALWAYS IMPROVING TO GET HUMAN TO THE MOON,
THE PROOF OF THAT IS THE HUMAN THIRST TO ADVANCE THE KNOWLEDGE has always been there, can we call it , GOD WISPER?
COULD IT BE WHY THEY LOST THEIR FURRY BODY?
THIS LAST QUESTION IS MY JOKE, ON november 3 on 2013

HELO ANYONE HERE TO GIVE A FOLLOWED OPINION,
ON POSITIVE OR NEGATIVE,
I CAN TAKE BOTH ANSWERS,

Skookum
we Christian believe of the creation of one man and woman, after all the creation of animals,
it give a thought of where did the neanderthal fit in there, where they animals who did acquired knowledge
after generations of them being thinker and action making tools for their need, SAME as of human actions, like being face with the reality OF THAT NEED TO IMPROVE THEMSELVES
that there is right and wrong in human behavior, and from there , after many battles,
OR FOR OTHER CORRUPT INTENT,
WHERE ACCEPTED ,according to the standards of those human,
within the human society and inter breed with them,which as mentioned had babies of different race and color which came out of it after more generations,
i think it could make sense, because today we see many mix of those primary races breeding with other,
right here in the USA, WHERE SOME HAVE ENHANCE CRIMINAL INSTINCT,
AS OPPOSE TO OTHER WITH PEACEFULL INSTINCT WHICH FOR THEM MAKE THEM CREATOR OF THINGS SO TO HELP IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIVING OF THEIR NEIGHBORS,
those two completely different directions of human could give us the clue we are searching WITH GENETIC RESEARCH,
TO differenciate the good and bad human before the bad do their crime, and on the oposit side
before they know that they are the creators and the gifted of all the good in this EARTH,
SO TO KNOW WHO DESERVE THE LEADERSHIP SEAT BEFORE THE VOTES ARE CAST,
OR BE REGRETTED HURTINGLY FOR ALL THE CITIZENS EVEN
BRING A SHAME TO THOSE WHO VOTED BY IGNORANCE,
OR BY PHYSICAL SEXUAL FANTAISIE WISHES,DRIVING THEM.

ON ANOTHER SIDE IT WOULD ADVANCE THE EFFORTS
FOR COMPANIES TO CHOSE THE BEST MINDS AND SKILL AS THEY ARE STILL DEVELPPING IN VERY YOUNG AGE,
FOR THE FUTURE POSITIONS NEEDED,

Bees, we must keep in mind, the Neanderthal was first discovered in Germany, but since then the remains have been found as far away as China. There have also been numerous specimens of earlier human type beings found. No one knows how it all fits together, but when a jawbone is found, it is automatically projected to be a early primitive example of early man. I find this hard to believe by the laws of probability or improbability. A few bone fragments of bone does not necessarily need to change the evolutionary path of man, but a certain pride in the finding of such samples, makes the anthropologist want to be noted for his particular find.

Unfortunately, there are probably millions of bone fragments waiting to be discovered that will lend themselves to evolutionary theory even better. Trying to weave religion into the matrix is a forlorn exercise. It just doesn’t fit.

Describing the Neaderthal as a violent criminal type doesn’t fit her either. Modern man is one of the most blood curdling homicidal psychopathic types to have ever existed. We know the

SKOOK
hi ,
thank you for coming to add up,
I did not say he was an angry dangerous violent human,
hope some words did not mean it,
it is so interesting to go back there far away and it bring so many questions,
and rightfully; because he or she are the first link of a long chain comming to us,it would be fun to have a picture of without the fur the hair and the skin color,just to try to find if a one of family chain
resemble to his traits, dont you think? it would be fun to find a same eyes or forehead or nose or mouth,
just to claim it proudly,
THANK’S AGAIN FOR THIS INTRIGUING POST,
I just cant leave it with so many maybe’S of my imagination,
BYE
i’m glad i notice the typo errors from my runaway computer,
i did fix them, hope you have this one

Skook
HI,
how can we not have a question on the CREATION?
our bible beliefs of some we feel familliar with,
to me it go with the CREATION, from a super being ,which i call GOD,
and he create the animals before human,
so the logic to me come to say that the animals where not only one,
he create the couple ,and the theory of evolution fits right in with it,
they all evolved as the earth did too,
I also had a thought that the EARTH evolution provide the evolution of minds on animals too,
IF WE KEEP IN MIND ALL THE MINERALS RAW ON THE GROUND NOT YET BURRIED DEEP, BY TIME
our body contain so many of them and need it all or a lack could be a life and death verdict,; that is
how important they are and the place they hold in the building of strong bones and physical strength of
us human and animals of all kinds, birds of all kinds, insects of all kinds and trees, so on,
it’s so intrically entwine together it took a SUPER KNOW ALL CREATOR, TO BUILD IT ALL,
we cannot keep him out even if we want it, THIS ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO TAKE HIM OUT,
ONE PASTOR WAS SAYING TODAY HOW EVIDENT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS HOW MANY ATTACKS WHERE DONE TO CHRISTANITY, WHICH IS ONE BIG PILLAR OF THE AMERICA FOUNDER OF
THOSES LAWS SO FULL OF WISDOM AND INTELLIGENCE, SURELY AGAIN as they WHERE ASKING FOR WISDOM, the only one who has the TOTAL WISDOM CAME TO HELP HE WAS THE CREATOR OF ALL THINGS AFTER ALL, so he knew what WISDOM is
AND INSPIRED THE FRAIMERS, IT KEPT AMERICA FOR SO LONG,
WE MUST WORK HARD ON SAVING THEM FROM EVIL,
BYE

Skookum,
hi,
me again, i love OASIS, an animal and nature show on tv,
i”m always in aw to see something new , and today, only, for the first time i saw a gorilla
walking upright straight up no bending like the other, he was walking like a man usual walk,
it was incredible to see for the first time for me,
JUST THOUGHT TO MENTION IT,
BYE

The Grizzly stands up to walk for short distances. They are quite impressive when they are nine or ten feet tall.

Skookum
YES IT MUST BE, I NEVER SAW THAT, BUT YOU DID AND
I THINK IT’S A PRIVILEGE TO JUST SEE IT AT PROXIMITY,
I SEE MANY THINGS ON MY OASIS CHANNEL, AND I’M GLAD FOR
MY 42 INCH TV SCREEN, IT’S SO LIVELY, I SEE BIRDS never thought existed,
and marine animals never thought existed, INSECTS AND ALL, ALIVE AND
DOING THEIR THING, EATING OTHERS, THIS STRAIGHT UP GORILLA WAS WALKING IN THE WATER EXACTLY THE SAME AS A HUMAN, SLOW WALK UNIFIED STEP, I WAS IMPRESS,
THIKING OF THE NEANDERTAL,
BYE

I lost my previous notes, which was at the last line, DON’T KNOW WHAT HAPPEN , AND I HATE THAT TO HAPPEN,
IT WAS ABOUT THE FOOD INTAKE OF THOSE EARLY HUMAN, WHICH WAS NOT EVERY DAY LIKE US,
THEY COULD HAVE BEEN MANY DAYS WITHOUT FOOD, AND ATE ONLY AFTER HUNTING,
LIKE THE ANIMALS DON’T EAT EVERY DAYS, AND ALSO DRINK SPARINGLY, ONLY ACCORDING WHERE THEY LIVED AND THE RAIN FREQUENCY,
i also touch an idea that the soil where the surface was more full of minerals depending where they originated must have play a role in the skin color, all those coloufull minerals have been said that to have
the EARTH it cost the life of many STARS, it”s a new revelation i heard from scientist channel on television, telling the stars each have a different amount of minerals, which go with what i said above, and it make sense,
different amount scathered on this EARTH , made me think of the origine of skin color for human,
WHO BREATH THE MINERAL AND ATE DIFFERENT FOOD ANIMALS AND FRUITS LEAVES AND SO ON,
correct me if i’m wrong,
bye

Bees, I will guarantee you, ancient humans and near-humans camp like a bush ape of today, near a good water source!

There is variation in pigmentation in moose and grizzlies. With moose, they vary from a reddish color to black. I have seen a grizzly colored gray with a black cross on his back, reddish color, and a black one that could have killed me if he didn’t have a sense of humor.

I can’t tell you whether the variation is genotypical or a result of mineral accumulation from feed and water.

If you plan to observe grizzlies, use binoculars from several hundred yards.

SKOOKUM
are you sure the black mark was to warn on his ferocious behavior?
NOT A GENETIC COLOR,
i could not resist this one, A WAY TO KIDD YOU,
HOPE IT BRING YOU A LAUGH,
I REALLY INTEND TO ADMIRE THEM ON MY BIG TELE, AT OASIS CHANNEL WHICH HAVE GOOD ANIMAL SHOW AND ALSO SHOWS FROM THE COSMOS, VERY INTERESTING,
THAT’S WHERE I LEARN THAT IT TAKE A STAR TO DIE FOR FEEDING THE EARTH OF HER MINERALS,
WE FIND HERE,
BYE
I CAME BACK WITH WHAT I READ ABOUT THE DYING STAR GIVE US OXIGENE AND CARBON, THE TWO MOST ESSENTIALS PRODUCT FOR LIFE ON EARTH, IS IN IT EXTRAORDINARY?
OF COURSE YOU KNEW IT, BUT FOR ME FINDING IT WAS A REVELATION,
BYE