3 Jul

Egypt and The Fraternal Brotherhood of Legitimacy [Reader Post]

                                       

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Morsi, the former President of Egypt, may be under house arrest at this time yet he said early Wednesday morning:

“I am the president of Egypt,” he shouted. “There is no substitute for legitimacy, no alternative.”

Thomas Jefferson had this take on legitimacy, “Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%.” Another patriot commented, your laws stop at my nose and pocket. One beauty of the United States is the fact the Founders designed the country as a republic with a rule of law, not the rule of man. Or as Morsi would counter, his legitimacy.

“Legitimacy.” Let’s not be fooled by that generality. We as People have inalienable rights. Not rights granted by kings, czars, or presidents. Nor are our rights granted by democratic vote. Rather these are rights we are born with. Rights we die with, God bless.

Ayn Rand, “I object to the idea that the people have the right to vote on everything. The traditional American system was a system based on the idea that majority will prevail only in public or political affairs. And that it was limited by inalienable individual rights, therefore I do not believe that a majority can vote a man’s life, or property, or freedom away from him.”

The Fraternal Brotherhood and Legitimacy? Let us explore that word some more.

Venezuela – 09/10/2012 – “No one can doubt any longer the legitimacy of origin of President Chavez in Venezuela,” Alvarez stressed in a interview published Tuesday in the Argentinian daily Pagina 12. “I told to opponents we are their best allies regarding transparency of process, because South America is not going to live with any kind of pro-coup tendency [anti-rule of man] neither old or new, nor a fraud-born government.”

Brazil – 06/25/2013 – YahooNews: Brazil’s Supreme Court Justice Joaquim Barbosa, re: recent riots, “And that lack of interest, in part, has led to the crisis of legitimacy we have now.”

Turkey – 06/16/2013 – No one can doubt the democratic legitimacy of Mr Erdogan, the Turkish Prime Minister. He has won three genuine elections with many more votes than any other candidate.

Iraq:
– ABC, CNN, and NBC Touted Saddam 100-Percent “Vote” in 2002
– Wiki: Saddam took steps to control the damage; the referendum was an attempt to shore up his claim to legitimacy

Zimbabwe:
Mugabe’s crisis of legitimacy: For a man who holds two law degrees and is surrounded by lawyers, Mugabe finds it hard to ignore the power of the law. He knows it provides the basis for challenge against his authority and has tended to overlook or stretch it when it matters. The Mugabe regime has an ambivalent approach toward the law.

Cuba:
– Cuba’s military brass, the Communist Party, the Interior Ministry and government agencies are convinced that after the comandante’s death they will desperately need a figure that will give international legitimacy to an unpopular, tottering and totally anachronistic regime

Tangent: Research was also done on regimes, oftentimes called hegemonic authoritarian regimes, where non-competitive elections were held so that the regime could claim the mantle of electoral legitimacy but where the outcome was never in any way in doubt. Because elections themselves are a powerful tool, we now live in a world where there are elections all over the globe, but in many instances they mean next to nothing.

Ayn Rand,

America’s abundance was created not by public sacrifices to “the common good,” but by the productive genius of free men who pursued their own personal interests and the making of their own private fortunes. They did not starve the people to pay for America’s industrialization. They gave the people better jobs, higher wages and cheaper goods with every new machine they invented, with every scientific discovery or technological advance—and thus the whole country was moving forward and profiting, not suffering, every step of the way.

The goal of the “liberals”—as it emerges from the record of the past decades—was to smuggle this country into welfare statism by means of single, concrete, specific measures, enlarging the power of the government a step at a time, never permitting these steps to be summed up into principles, never permitting their direction to be identified or the basic issue to be named. Thus, statism was to come, not by vote or by violence, but by slow rot—by a long process of evasion and epistemological corruption, leading to a fait accompli. (The goal of the “conservative” was only to retard that process.)

Someone told me: The moral cannibalism of all hedonist and altruist doctrines lies in the premise that the happiness of one man necessitates the injury of another. Man’s character is the product of his premises. It stands to reason that where there’s sacrifice, there’s someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there’s service, there’s someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master.

Freedom is the first requirement of “the public interest”…achievements rest on that foundation—and cannot exist without it.

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15 Responses to Egypt and The Fraternal Brotherhood of Legitimacy [Reader Post]

  1. Nan G says: 1

    David French’s The Utter Chaos of the Obama Administration’s Egypt Policy was linked earlier in the Most Wanted here at FA.
    http://floppingaces.net/most_wanted/the-utter-chaos-of-the-obama-administrations-egypt-policy/

    In it French noted that Obama waived any Human Right’s issues going on in Egypt under Morsi just two months ago.
    BUT now Monday, July 1, 2013 Obama said money would stop if the military took power from Morsi!
    WHY?
    Morsi was a model of ”human rights.”
    Morsi, according to Obama, was listening to the opposition, maintaining a free press, maintaining freedom of assembly, not using violence or intimidation.
    REALLY?
    Is Obama incredibly ignorant or is he a secret Muslim Brotherhood-y?
    The military pointed out that Morsi had NOT been listening to the opposition at all.
    Both the papers and the TV had been taken over by Morsi.
    Opponents of his views in media had been arrested for ”insulting Islam,” and imprisoned.
    When a mob came up against a church (where Coptics were supposed to have the right to freely assemble) Morsi’s uniformed men stood by until the place was burned out.
    Coptics were being systematically looted and raped, murdered and kidnapped by MB Islamists.

    Apparently, just like in the US where Muslims are exempt from ObamaCare while Christians are forced to pay for abortions, Obama sides with his favorite religion and punishes all others.

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  2. Nan G
    I read that , the children of MORSI are living In the UNITED STATES
    it tell us that OBAMA and MORSI are close friends

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  3. yes he is angry, his next move is to check the money given,
    this is something he never expected,
    whatch his next move

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  4. mossomo says: 4

    is he [Obama] a secret Muslim Brotherhood

    Hmmmm. Why would anyone take a trip to Pakistan (I mean seriously, why would you)? Why would the LA Times embargo the Obama Khalidi tape? Why was the global advocate for sharia law, the man who wants the UN to criminalize blasphemy, Sheik Abdullah bin Bayyah, why was he visiting the White House? Why did the NSA and FBI stop monitoring domestic mosques, but then only to profile and monitor US citizens? Did the IRS harass muslim groups? Did NASA reach out to Evangelicals and Christians? Why the hell is Hussam Ayloush, a 2012 DNC delegate, memorable for his terrorist out reach, explaining that terrorists were just exercising their “legitimate right” to defend themselves against Israeli occupation, why is he visiting the White House?

    Is he or isn’t he, does it really matter at this point. And that’s not a question.

    H/T Curt – ty

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  5. mossomo says: 5

    I was burning some insomniacal midnight oil here. Am glad this posted. I have a few more to add to the legitimacy frat.

    o- Argentina – 2005 – The elections give Kirchner legitimacy and the hope is that he will now concentrate on pending reforms,”

    o- Bolivia – August 10th 2008. Morales won a recall referendum with over 67% of the popular vote. This successful electoral process served as a check on his mandate, and was a powerful reaffirmation of the legitimacy of his democratic administration.

    o- Liberia 2011 – analysts say Sirleaf faces a gargantuan task to establish legitimacy in a nation more divided than ever.

    Consent of the governed is a political theory. It is based on the idea that a government’s legitimacy and moral right to use state power is, or ought to be, derived from the people or society over which that power is exercised.

    And my whole point, legitimacy is lost the world over when you lose the consent of the governed because of rule of man, when the will of man usurps the rule of law.

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  6. MOSSOMO
    A SUPER GOOD POST INDEED,
    a sharp reminder to ALL LEADERS OF THE WORLD
    those who abuse the good people with rules and regulations stopping their will to create a good life ,
    refraining their belief in GOD, refraining their busyness self direction, getting in their privacy
    imposing their agenda of nefarious intent to the law abiding citizens,
    and try to disarmed the will to defend their own from the criminals, which they allowed inside the COUNTRY AND TURN LOOSE TO COMMIT CRIMES ON THE PEOPLE,
    yes those leaders better rethink to demolish their pyramid before they fall down from it in shame,
    A VERY SHARP REMINDER FOR THOSE LEADERS WITH INTENT TO CHANGE THIS NATION OF GIANTS INTO A FOREIGN EMPOWERMENT WITH INTENT TO CHANGE AMERICA FOREVER,

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  7. James Raider says: 7

    Well, let’s see, . . .

    1. An egocentric ideological goof gets elevated to Presidency through supposedly ‘democratic’ election.
    2. Once in power his extremism oozes out while he verbally pretends otherwise.
    3. He concentrates power, handing down decrees which in a effect imbue his presidency with autocratic powers.
    4. He enacts legislation, entrenching laws which transform his country into a socialist state.
    5. The majority of the people get pissed with him and demand his exit.
    6. The army just takes care of business.

    Damn, but that chronology has an uncomfortably familiar ring to it.
    – – –
    The media is calling this a military coup: Where was this progressive media when Morsi singlehandedly changed Egypt’s constitution and implemented a socialist regime under Sharia Law? Was THAT not a coup? And where was this Administration?
    The media is also using headlines such as “Constitution Suspended”: Again, where was it when Morsi trashed Egypt’s constitution and implemented his own? And where was this Administration?

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  8. Nan G
    and the film depicting the killing of COPTICS CHRISTIANS took as an excuse from
    OBAMA AND HILARY TO DIFFUSE THE MOB, COSTING THEM 70000 DOLLARS ,
    THEY DID MORE KILLING AND BURN THEIR PLACE, RIGHT AFTER IT.
    IS THAT DEMOCRATIC?
    HOW ABOUT HOME THEY TOLD THE WARRIORS TO HIDE THEIR CHRISTIANITY,
    is that caring for the MILITARY IN A WARZONE, THEY DENY TO BE,
    BUT THE WOUNDED ARE IN OUR FACE TO SEE, AND THEY ARE BEING DELAYED WHAT
    IS RIGHTFULLY
    BELONGING TO THEM. A BACKLOG OF YEARS BEFORE THEY GET THAT MONEY,
    AND THE DEAD ARE COMING BACK, STILL NOW.

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  9. mossomo
    how about reading that a student here in AMERICA
    force to remove his CROSS around his neck, IS THAT RIGHT IN AMERICA?
    FREE COUNTRY OF THE WORLD, RIGHT FROM THE WHITE HOUSE WISHES,
    WE SHOULD PUT A CROSS IN FRONT OF HIS EYES HE WOULD IGNITE AND DISOLVED IN HIS FIRE.

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  10. THIS AMERICA IS UPSIDE DOWN, THE MUSLIMS OFFEND US,
    AND THE LEADERS FORCE THE YOUNG TO REMOVE THEIR CROSS,
    BECAUSE IT MIGHT OFFEND THEM,
    SEND THEM BACK TO THEIR ORIGINAL COUNTRY,
    THIS PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITH THE CROSS AND THEIR FLAGS ,
    BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE AMERICANS,
    WHO NEED THOSE WHO GET OFFENDED WITH OUR CROSS,
    THEY CAN RETURN TO HELL WHERE THEY BELONG

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  11. OBAMA TRY TO PUT A RADICAL LEADER IN EGYPT WHO HATE THE JEWS, AND
    TRY TO CHANGE HIM TO BE A FRIEND OF ISRAEL,
    INSTEAD HE SHOULD HAVE PICK THE RIGHT EGYPTIAN LEADER AND SUPPORT HIM
    WHO IS ALREADY IN PEACE WITH ISRAEL,
    MORSI HURT THE YOUNG STUDENTS WHO DID NOT FOLLOW HIM,
    IT WAS SHOWN THEY WHERE CROWDED IN A PLACE AND BEAT UP ON THEIR FACE

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  12. WE SAW THE BROTHERHOOD BEAT UP THE YOUNG STUDENTS ON THEIR FACE

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  13. mossomo says: 13

    1. An egocentric ideological goof gets elevated to Presidency through supposedly ‘democratic’ election.
    2. Once in power his extremism oozes out while he verbally pretends otherwise.
    3. He concentrates power, handing down decrees which in a effect imbue his presidency with autocratic powers.
    4. He enacts legislation, entrenching laws which transform his country into a socialist state.

    Morsi, Erdogan, or Obama?

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  14. mossomo says: 14

    Hitler emphasized in the Mein Kampf that if one wants to take power then they need to have an illusion of legitimacy.

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  15. mossomo
    hi,
    it means they are lunatics.
    bye

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